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Oct 9, 2013 1:07 AM

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symbv said:
But the person you responded to (Amiluhur) already said he is no KyoAni fan and usually does not like KyoAni show. So what were you trying to prove? To preempt those "KyoAni fanboys" who seem to reside more in your imagination (or some forums you visited in the past) but whom we have seen little sign of showing up in this thread or this board so far? Besides, I also commented who KyoAni found some good way to achieve commercial success, does this mean by that I am automatically a "bandwagon fan"? This is why your tone and words give people impression that you are not just a skeptic but downright a hater, which only stopped people (and not just the real KyoAni fanboys) from listening to you when you start to talk about KyoAni.


I don't really think of it that way and find that a kind of defensive reaction but okay if that's the way you want to look at it so be it. I don't see what skepticism has to do with any of this either, I just happen to have a preference here.
Oct 9, 2013 1:21 AM

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I hope the people complaining about the sales are actually buying BDs instead of relying heavily on fansubs...
Oct 9, 2013 1:36 AM

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^^^ This is not just a spectator sport! You can affect the sales figures in a small way and support your favorite series by importing it. Then you are allowed to complain. If you didn't buy it then please don't complain about other people not buying your show for you!
Oct 9, 2013 1:42 AM
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phoenixalia said:
symbv said:
I don't put too much hope on Yomamushi Pedal because unlike KuroBas its character design is definitely not drawn to the moe side of the female audience. From what I read in forums, people found it interesting but I did not feel a kind of passion that got people to buy its BD/DVD.


That I agree with. Other than three of them, the others boys are not handsome or hot. Look at the GoM, all so hot. Still though, it had a great first episode I felt so I hope it picks up.

One more thing, symbv, Samurai Flamenco had a pre-airing event right? Any idea how people felt about it?


Yowamushi Pedal is actually already had fujoshi fanbase before the anime and even Kuroko S1 aired, it is also seems to be very popular in Otome Road. I guess the sales probably won't be really low.

Diamond no Ace is airing at Sunday morning. I guess it doesn't relying too much on BD/DVD sales but on TV ratings instead, then again it is competing with Dokidoki! Precure which is airing at the same time on other TV channels.
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Oct 9, 2013 2:39 AM

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hpulley said:
^^^ This is not just a spectator sport! You can affect the sales figures in a small way and support your favorite series by importing it. Then you are allowed to complain. If you didn't buy it then please don't complain about other people not buying your show for you!


On that topic, does anyone know what region code Non Non Biyori BR is? Because nowhere that doesn't just slap "region A" onto everything regardless of actual region restrictions seems to say anything.
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Oct 9, 2013 3:10 AM

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Oricon Daily All-Genre Top 30 DVD/Top 20 BD Rankings for Oct 8.

DVD
**7 **8 **9 *10 *11 *12 *13  週
*** **3 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free! 2
*14 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | DBZ Kami to Kami Regular Edition
*25 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro

BD
**7 **8 **9 *10 *11 *12 *13  週
*** **1 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free! 2
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Genshiken Nidaime 2
**2 *17 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | SymphogearG 1
**4 *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live! 7
*12 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Eva 3.33
*18 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | JoJo 9
*19 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 4
EjcOct 9, 2013 3:23 AM
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Oct 9, 2013 3:13 AM

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kuuderes_shadow said:
hpulley said:
^^^ This is not just a spectator sport! You can affect the sales figures in a small way and support your favorite series by importing it. Then you are allowed to complain. If you didn't buy it then please don't complain about other people not buying your show for you!


On that topic, does anyone know what region code Non Non Biyori BR is? Because nowhere that doesn't just slap "region A" onto everything regardless of actual region restrictions seems to say anything.
のんのんびより Non Non Biyori Blurays are region free!
Oct 9, 2013 3:21 AM

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hpulley said:
kuuderes_shadow said:
hpulley said:
^^^ This is not just a spectator sport! You can affect the sales figures in a small way and support your favorite series by importing it. Then you are allowed to complain. If you didn't buy it then please don't complain about other people not buying your show for you!


On that topic, does anyone know what region code Non Non Biyori BR is? Because nowhere that doesn't just slap "region A" onto everything regardless of actual region restrictions seems to say anything.
のんのんびより Non Non Biyori Blurays are region free!


Excellent. But do you have a source for that?
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Oct 9, 2013 3:27 AM
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kuuderes_shadow said:

Excellent. But do you have a source for that?


I usually buy manga and recently anime(Free!) from CD Japan.
Here is the page for Non Non Biyori Volume 1 Bluray.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=ZMXZ-9011

As you can see, it says region free.

melina_putri said:

Yowamushi Pedal is actually already had fujoshi fanbase before the anime and even Kuroko S1 aired, it is also seems to be very popular in Otome Road. I guess the sales probably won't be really low.


Well, that's good to hear. I don't expect Kurobasu levels but I hope for maybe 7-10k for it. If I remember correctly, the first season of KuroBasu also wasn't ranking very well until the 5th or 6th episode. Hope it's the same case with Yowamushi Pedal.
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hpulley said:
kuuderes_shadow said:
hpulley said:
^^^ This is not just a spectator sport! You can affect the sales figures in a small way and support your favorite series by importing it. Then you are allowed to complain. If you didn't buy it then please don't complain about other people not buying your show for you!


On that topic, does anyone know what region code Non Non Biyori BR is? Because nowhere that doesn't just slap "region A" onto everything regardless of actual region restrictions seems to say anything.
のんのんびより Non Non Biyori Blurays are region free!


.....

*Dashes to pre-order Non Non Biyori*
Oct 9, 2013 3:30 AM

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kuuderes_shadow said:
hpulley said:
kuuderes_shadow said:
...does anyone know what region code Non Non Biyori BR is? Because nowhere that doesn't just slap "region A" onto everything regardless of actual region restrictions seems to say anything.
のんのんびより Non Non Biyori Blurays are region free!


Excellent. But do you have a source for that?
CDJapan links:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=ZMXZ-9011

Format Blu-ray (Region free)


Ninja'd by phoenixalia... but I too have been enjoying using cdjapan lately.

And Non Non Byori really looks good! Hard to believe Silver Link made it. I have imported some of their shows and like their work but this seems like their best scenic work.
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I see dragon ball is still making money
Oct 9, 2013 6:56 AM

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Ejc said:
Oricon Daily All-Genre Top 30 DVD/Top 20 BD Rankings for Oct 8.

DVD
**7 **8 **9 *10 *11 *12 *13  週
*** **3 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free! 2
*14 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | DBZ Kami to Kami Regular Edition
*25 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Tonari no Totoro

BD
**7 **8 **9 *10 *11 *12 *13  週
*** **1 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Free! 2
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Genshiken Nidaime 2
**2 *17 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | SymphogearG 1
**4 *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live! 7
*12 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3
*17 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Eva 3.33
*18 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | JoJo 9
*19 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | UtaPri 2000% 4


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phoenixalia said:
kuuderes_shadow said:

If I remember correctly, the first season of KuroBasu also wasn't ranking very well until the 5th or 6th episode.


Where do you go to get the TV Ranking ?
Oct 9, 2013 7:39 AM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
I don't really think of it that way and find that a kind of defensive reaction but okay if that's the way you want to look at it so be it. I don't see what skepticism has to do with any of this either, I just happen to have a preference here.
I remember once in the past you said you are not a hater but a skeptic of KyoAni. This is why I raised the subject of skepticism, and I want to point out that the one you set ("anything BUT KyoAni on top of BD chart !!") just makes you sound like a hater, not a skeptic.






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I think the primary reason is: don't kill your protagonist (driver of action) and strongest character off in the 3rd episode unless you have a stronger and better character ready by no later than the 5th.
That is in the original light novel so it can't be helped, can it? As I explained in the KamiNai sub-board, the first volume of the light novel was supposed to be one-off in a LN competition, but it got extended and the author decided not to raise this Humbert guy from the dead but instead focused on the journey of growth for Aii without Humbert. I think the main problem of the series is much much deeper than that. Almost all the arcs were rushed and things unexplained. As fans of the LN pointed out, even the first arc (with Humbert in it) had a bunch of things being rushed or omitted which could lead to people getting confused or a wrong understanding of what happened. And that is already supposed to be a better executed arc. Some arcs, like the prison school, actually got people to yawn and said "what the heck? that's it?" at the endings. Personally to me, it is one of the worst executed (and adapted) series in the summer cour, and while the sales figure is poorer than I expected, I never saw sales of over 1k coming as I followed the show over the season.

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Plus I think we all need to always keep in mind that drama's just do not sell well to the animation demographic, as such our expectation of success for such series needs to reset to a lower number. Few shows sell more than 5,000 discs and of these shows, the vast majority are light hearted shows full of action, comedy or romance.
Drama can still sell but it needs to be executed well. KamiNai failed in this aspect and it failed even to get the LN fans to support it. So its fate was sealed.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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bob12344321 said:
phoenixalia said:
kuuderes_shadow said:

If I remember correctly, the first season of KuroBasu also wasn't ranking very well until the 5th or 6th episode.


Where do you go to get the TV Ranking ?


TV ranking? Ah, I was talking about preorder rankings. I got them on Amazon Japan Stalker.
This is the link for current anime:
http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index_news.cgi

The first blue list is the Amazon Top 100. The second list is predictions for Fall anime.
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Oct 9, 2013 7:57 AM
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This remark leaves me wonder what are the general first impressions towards Gundam Build Fighters, Log Horizon, Yowamushi Pedal and Aikatsu! 2 in Japan, then. I bet that Gaist Crusher is largely ignored in 2ch even by kids' anime standards.
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Oct 9, 2013 8:06 AM

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murazrai said:

This remark leaves me wonder what are the general first impressions towards Gundam Build Fighters, Log Horizon, Yowamushi Pedal and Aikatsu! 2 in Japan, then. I bet that Gaist Crusher is largely ignored in 2ch even by kids' anime standards.
Those anime you mentioned all share same characteristic: They are all not the usual midnight anime that otaku pay the closest attention, yet somehow they still get their attention because of various reasons: Gundam (though the anime is not really targeted otaku as primary audience), NHK anime, Shounen manga adaptation in a midnight timeslot, and well Aikatsu (which like PreCure never really aims at otaku as target audience). They all get talked about in their own thread in 2ch and from what I read those who watch it find all of them quite good. Gundam Build Fighter even got quite a bit of "better than expected" comments. And the funny thing that came out of the Gundam BF thread is how many comments are about how hot and sexy the mother is LOL

And you are right, Gaist Crusher is pretty much "air" (ignored) in 2ch.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 9, 2013 8:33 AM
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Takuan_Soho said:
Takei_Hisa said:
YESSs Kiniro Mosaic <3

What is Kami Inai selling so little :(


I think the primary reason is: don't kill your protagonist (driver of action) and strongest character off in the 3rd episode unless you have a stronger and better character ready by no later than the 5th. That was the kiss of death for this show. This show never replaced Humbert, Ai was poised at the end of the 3rd episode to take over this role, but the writer never developed her: She never really became the main driver of the action, instead was primarily the witness to events, this could have been fine, but none of the arcs after the 1st had a character as strong or as vivid as Humbert. Everyone else suffered by comparison and everyone disappointed by Humbert's death were vindicated that this show could not recover.

Personally I found this disappointing, I loved that they had the courage to kill Humbert off, I loved the whole concept behind the city of the dead, but from the ending of that Arc through the rest of the series, the show lost its focused, the plots became weaker and by the end I think it had lost 90% of its initial audience. They took a huge plot gamble (one that writer's books tell you to never do) and unfortunately it failed.

Plus I think we all need to always keep in mind that drama's just do not sell well to the animation demographic, as such our expectation of success for such series needs to reset to a lower number. Few shows sell more than 5,000 discs and of these shows, the vast majority are light hearted shows full of action, comedy or romance.

Adair said:
I'm sad that Free! didn't sell more, but it's pretty a obvious from this that male otaku still dominate most of the market. At least it made it in the cut off...and hopefully they'll get better as more people know that it came out.


I call troll, troll troll troll. Back to under your bridge.

Either that or you misread the rankings and thought this week was the first week. In that case rest assured: Free v1 sold 30K discs, an incredible number of discs.


Whoa whoa whoa, I think some of this should probably be put in a spoiler.

Also, I kind of think that suggesting that dramas don't sell well is a bit of an overgeneralization. For example, look at kimi no iru machi. I havent finished watching it yet (so no spoilers please!) But i consider it a drama and it has pretty solid sales (over 5k) Yes, realize it has a bonus manga extra, but so does blood lad...I think this shows, perhaps contrary to kaminai's lack of support (as symbv suggested), kimimachi has the support of at least some of its manga fans.

At the same time, I can kind of understand where you are coming from. Perhaps it is the nature of the content but I kind of find it difficult to believe we will see many primarily dramatic anime that have sales comparable to even half of SnK or SAO. I suppose it's understandable that a younger audience might not find dramatic anime as stimulating as comedy or action, though perhaps it is a bit disappointing.

And it's not even just the younger audience, many people have short attention spans or don't have an interest in complex stories and would rather go watch some shoot em up or silly comedy TV show or movie. Much of the world is about instant (or at least very quick) gratification. I think dramas often require a bit more development and thinking, so I wouldn't be too surprised if we saw further deterioration in that part of the market. Perhaps the best hope is that dramatic elements continue to be incorporated into other kinds of shows, though that does seem like a frustrating prospect.

Sorry I guess this turned into a bit of a rant.
Oct 9, 2013 10:10 AM

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symbv said:
As said in another thread, the key thing is SymphogearG v1 sold 9829 BD + 1153 DVD = 10,982 !!!
As comparsion vol.1 of season 1 sold 4454 in the first week.

Also not many singles this week which is indicative of the break in between anime cours. Album on the other hand is dominated by IdolM@ster and Free, but there are also two from Strike Witches....


Wow im so happy for Symphogear G, it beat the others by a huge landslide. Whats even more amazing is that the sales has only been 1 week! yet its beating the other sales. Glad so many people out there love it aside from me.

This is my first time seeing the sales of Vol1 of Season 1 of symphogear but wow even that figure is very high compared to the sales right now.

though im sadden by the fact that Kamisama no Nichiyoubi sold so few cause i think that show is beautiful both in the story and the animation.
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symbv said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:
I don't really think of it that way and find that a kind of defensive reaction but okay if that's the way you want to look at it so be it. I don't see what skepticism has to do with any of this either, I just happen to have a preference here.
I remember once in the past you said you are not a hater but a skeptic of KyoAni. This is why I raised the subject of skepticism, and I want to point out that the one you set ("anything BUT KyoAni on top of BD chart !!") just makes you sound like a hater, not a skeptic.


And I ask you again why does it matter so much that I not want to see this studio not always succeed ahead of all others. It's again this sort of thing that makes me annoyed by the Kyoani fandom. That complete and utter inability to accept that some people just don't want them to always be on top or considered the absolute pinnacle with every season and that sales results can be an enabler. I've never seen this sort of thing with any other fandom. Just so defensive and protective of the studios image as sacrosanct. So what now I have to wish for them to succeed ahead of all others otherwise I'm a hater? When did saying I don't care if a show is successful I'd just like to see anything else other than it top the charts make someone a hater or is this only because Kyoani is the subject here? This is honestly kind of ridiculous and again the sort of thing that makes the Kyoani fandom so annoying and laughable to me. Sorry but now you're really going to have a time convincing me you aren't showing some form of favoritism towards the studio here.

Anyway pleasantly surprised to see Gundam BF getting some preorders where AGE never did. It seemed like people were against AGE right away (I remember a producer saying they'd never seen a Gundam series fail to make any sort of gain like they'd seen with AGE before and knew something must have been up) judging by the mass flood of negative review scores and low chart positions while this is at least being given a chance to make something of itself so that's a nice sign at least.
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Excluding this one (because we don't have monogatari's sales yet) when was the last time a KyoAni series even got top sales of the season?

edit: K-on!! barely scraped it over Angel Beats! in Spring 2010. That's 3 years and counting without a KyoAni series being the top seller.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
And I ask you again why does it matter so much that I not want to see this studio not always succeed ahead of all others. It's again this sort of thing that makes me annoyed by the Kyoani fandom. That complete and utter inability to accept that some people just don't want them to always be on top or considered the absolute pinnacle with every season and that sales results can be an enabler.
Well, my challenge to you is that you claimed to be just a skeptic but in fact you take every chance to present an image of unconditional hatred against KyoAni and its fans (you call them fanboys but more and more you just seem to treat anybody who takes just some liking of KyoAni's works as "fanboy") even though the original post was not even written by a KyoAni fan much less fanboy. If you agree with the description that I have given, that you just hate KyoAni, its works and anybody who likes its shows and your claim that you are just a skeptic is nothing of the kind, then I have nothing to say, and would just accept that you will act absolutely unreasonable whenever KyoAni is brought up to trigger your hate.

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I've never seen this sort of thing with any other fandom. Just so defensive and protective of the studios image as sacrosanct.
I don't know who are you arguing against, but so far all I can see are people who like KyoAni more than you do (which is easy to be) and you classify all of them as part of KyoAni fanm which your avowed but imaginary enemy. To be honest, if you had said the same thing against Shaft for example (I want any other show but this Shaft thing on top of BD chart) I would have said basically the same thing. So better forget about your KyoAni persecution complex thought. This has to do with KyoAni only because you happened to have some particular problem (mostly imaginary) against KyoAni "fandom".

Kaioshin_Sama said:
So what now I have to wish for them to succeed ahead of all others otherwise I'm a hater? hen did saying I don't care if a show is successful I'd just like to see anything else other than it top the charts make someone a hater or is this only because Kyoani is the subject here?
You are a hater when you said "I wish any show would come out on top but not KyoAni". Just go and ask anyone, even those who don't know anime, what it means if someone said "I wish anybody wins this but xxx" and whether that means he hates xxx. It is this simple.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
This is honestly kind of ridiculous and again the sort of thing that makes the Kyoani fandom so annoying and laughable to me. Sorry but now you're really going to have a time convincing me you aren't showing some form of favoritism towards the studio here.
KyoAni fandom? Me? Now you are being absolutely ridiculous and laughable. I have admired works of many studios and I don't spare much thought about which studio makes a certain work if I am calling it weak or flawed. KyoAni has its success and clearly it is because it did things that got people to buy its products. How much of such thinking means favoritism?? And when they did something that is less than inspiring, I called it just like I did for works from other studios - Tamako Market is one example. On the other hand, you just jump at every chance to rant against KyoAni and KyoAni's fans even when the fanboys are nowhere to be seen. I hope you can at least think calmly and clearly because otherwise you are grouping a whole lot of anime watchers as KyoAni fandom. And instead of favoritism by those people, why not spare some thought about your all-too-zealous anti-favoritism?? Why not ask yourself why you have to jump to some anti-KyoAni anti-KyoAni-fan rant just because someone wants to say something positive about KyoAni, even if that someone clearly said he is not a fan of KyoAni?? Who is being ridiculous??
symbvOct 9, 2013 11:15 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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I have been maintaining the following list on my own and it covers the singles only. Don't feel like spending time translating now, so I hope you don't mind me posting it here in Japanese:

戦姫絶唱シンフォギア
51,017 79,505 15 Synchrogazer 水樹奈々
13,140 28,044 15 キャラクターソング1(逆光のフリューゲル) ツヴァイウィング 風鳴翼(CV:水樹奈々) 天羽奏(CV:高山みなみ)
11,308 19,986 10 キャラクターソング3(絶刀・天羽々斬) 風鳴翼(CV:水樹奈々)
10,068 13,698 *5 キャラクターソング4(魔弓・イチイバル) 雪音クリス(CV:高垣彩陽)
*7,423 13,441 *7 キャラクターソング2(撃槍・ガングニール) 立花響(CV:悠木碧)
*6,345 *9,041 *5 Meteor Light 高垣彩陽
戦姫絶唱シンフォギアG
61,648 80,762 10 Vitalization 水樹奈々
16,078 33,108 12 キャラクターソング1(不死鳥のフランメ) マリア×風鳴翼(CV:日笠陽子×水樹奈々)
15,221 22,619 *7 キャラクターソング4(月煌ノ剣) 風鳴翼(CV:水樹奈々)
10,836 18,392 *9 キャラクターソング3(烈槍・ガングニール) マリア・カデンツァヴナ・イヴ(CV:日笠陽子)
*8,857 17,692 11 キャラクターソング2(正義を信じて、握り締めて) 立花響(CV:悠木碧)
11,787 17,301 *5 キャラクターソング6(Bye-Bye Lullaby) 雪音クリス (CV.高垣彩陽)
11,193 17,054 *6 キャラクターソング5(鏖鋸・シュルシャガナ) 月読調 (CV.南條愛乃)
10,861 15,579 *4 キャラクターソング7(獄鎌・イガリマ) 暁切歌 (CV.茅野愛衣)
*9,154 15,445 *8 Next Destination 高垣彩陽
12,044 15,171 *3 キャラクターソング8(歪鏡・シェンショウジン) 小日向未来(CV:井口裕香)


Thanks. Pretty impressive numbers. Looks like the door for a third season is wide open. They should hold live events like shows like Macross Frontier did, but I guess Macross is far more popular.
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^^^ Symphogear G volume 1 _did_ come with an event ticket lottery application for "Symphogear Live"! I can get read the details if you like, normally I just ignore them sadly as I can't go...
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Symphogear #1...I just am part of that minority I guess.
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Fuuuuuck. Uchouten Kazoku is below the manabi line.
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Yeah, it's a shame about Uchoten Kazoku. I have no idea if the series gets more outside the BD/DVD sales (I hope so), but can't imagine anyone wouldn't be tempted to buy it.

*6, 1,683 **1,683 Cossette no Shouzou
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So, they made a movie out of the three OVA and released it in BD only? Are there changes to the story, does anyone know?

Curious how far the things went with Usavich, but it's good to see a short series selling well.
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It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.
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Yvese said:
It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.


I kind of agree but perhaps kind of disagree too. I don't think you have to have been a buyer to comment on sales, but if you're going to complain/whine about people not buying something you haven't bought it does come off a bit hypocritical.
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Yvese said:
It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.


It's really fucking hard to buy stuff when you can't watch it because of the damn region lock.
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Yvese said:
It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.


It's really fucking hard to buy stuff when you can't watch it because of the damn region lock.

Or when you are a college student with no little money to spend and are always hungry. Plus, I really really would love to buy the DVDs but I can't understand Japanese unfortunately, why would I buy something when I can't enjoy it to the fullest? When I graduate and hopefully start earning money (and learn Japanese), I will definitely be buying my favorite anime, it's just that some people can't afford do so atm.
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Yvese said:
It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.


Last time I checked, I haven't been watching anything for free.

Being glad about shows selling well is exactly that illogical if you don't buy anything, according to your logic.

The reason Uchoten is not selling can't be explained with me complaining, either. The only reason I believe it should be discussed, could be its appeal to the Japanese audience itself. Whether I buy it or not, is a different issue - I am not obliged to buy it marketed this way.
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Yvese said:
It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.
It pains me to see people complaining about people not buying anime on Western forum even though the prices are completely ridiculous for any country beside Japan.
It pains me to see people who think that you can complain about something only if you bought it.
I could feed myself for a month at the cost of two BDs.

It's only natural to feel disappointment when something you like isn't doing well, there's nothing wrong with that.
What you should be complaining about is that people here don't understand how the market works and Japanese' reasons behind not buying the BDs.
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Yvese said:
It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.


I kind of agree but perhaps kind of disagree too. I don't think you have to have been a buyer to comment on sales, but if you're going to complain/whine about people not buying something you haven't bought it does come off a bit hypocritical.
Oh definitely. You can comment all you want. It's just the complaining that gets annoying. Every time someone complains about their shows not selling I just roll my eyes knowing they are probably just another leecher ( like me )

tingy said:
Or when you are a college student with no little money to spend and are always hungry. Plus, I really really would love to buy the DVDs but I can't understand Japanese unfortunately, why would I buy something when I can't enjoy it to the fullest? When I graduate and hopefully start earning money (and learn Japanese), I will definitely be buying my favorite anime, it's just that some people can't afford do so atm.
You buy it to support the creators and/or to collect it because you liked it enough to spend money on it. You don't have to re-watch it. Heck, some don't even open it and just put it on a shelf with the rest of their collection.

That and you don't have to buy the discs to support a show. You can buy the novel/manga/cds and other merchandise. Those are far cheaper and you can probably get most of them for the price of 1 BD volume.

Really though, if you can't afford it that's completely fine. My earlier post was just about people complaining that their show didn't sell, then they put the blame on the Japanese buyers for buying the wrong show and how their tastes suck. Well, last I checked anime is aimed at, *gasp*, Japanese viewers so clearly shows will be made with their tastes in mind.
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You buy it to support the creators and/or to collect it because you liked it enough to spend money on it. You don't have to re-watch it. Heck, some don't even open it and just put it on a shelf with the rest of their collection.

That and you don't have to buy the discs to support a show. You can buy the novel/manga/cds and other merchandise. Those are far cheaper and you can probably get most of them for the price of 1 BD volume.

Really though, if you can't afford it that's completely fine. My earlier post was just about people complaining that their show didn't sell, then they put the blame on the Japanese buyers for buying the wrong show and how their tastes suck. Well, last I checked anime is aimed at, *gasp*, Japanese viewers so clearly shows will be made with their tastes in mind.

That's true, it reminds me when kpop fans buy multiple physical copies of the CDs just to support their favorite groups. I understand that you can support a show by other means, but I guess for me I would only want to spend money on things that matter to me which would be manga and discs but not other merchandise. But I see what you're complaining about, I wouldn't blame it on Japanese viewers for having "bad taste" if they don't contribute to the sales of my favorite shows. In fact, I'm only sad that they may not enjoy the anime series (which I really liked) enough to buy the series.
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Liph said:
Yvese said:
It pains me to see people complaining about their shows not selling when they likely just watched the fansub and haven't bought a single thing from said show.

You are watching the shows for free - you have no right to complain whether it sells or not since you are part of the reason why it's not selling. Don't expect others to pony up the dough for your shows.


It's really fucking hard to buy stuff when you can't watch it because of the damn region lock.
Many Blurays are now region free. This includes Uchouten Kazoku,The Eccentric Family, which also comes with English subs so there is NO excuse not to import it.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=BCXA-780
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Yvese said:

Really though, if you can't afford it that's completely fine. My earlier post was just about people complaining that their show didn't sell, then they put the blame on the Japanese buyers for buying the wrong show and how their tastes suck. Well, last I checked anime is aimed at, *gasp*, Japanese viewers so clearly shows will be made with their tastes in mind.

I agree. It's okay to be disappointed or happy because a show you like is selling/not selling, but complaining on what the Japanese should buy or not buy is just....
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http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/anime/anime_english_subtitles.html

cdjapan even has a list of all anime with English subs. All Blurays from Japan will also play in North America, region free discs will play anywhere obviously. No money is the only valid excuse but don't tell the Japanese what to make unless you are willing to buy it.

Just reminded that Coppelion will have English subs. And is also region free. No excuses.
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tingy said:
Yvese said:

You buy it to support the creators and/or to collect it because you liked it enough to spend money on it. You don't have to re-watch it. Heck, some don't even open it and just put it on a shelf with the rest of their collection.

That and you don't have to buy the discs to support a show. You can buy the novel/manga/cds and other merchandise. Those are far cheaper and you can probably get most of them for the price of 1 BD volume.

Really though, if you can't afford it that's completely fine. My earlier post was just about people complaining that their show didn't sell, then they put the blame on the Japanese buyers for buying the wrong show and how their tastes suck. Well, last I checked anime is aimed at, *gasp*, Japanese viewers so clearly shows will be made with their tastes in mind.

That's true, it reminds me when kpop fans buy multiple physical copies of the CDs just to support their favorite groups. I understand that you can support a show by other means, but I guess for me I would only want to spend money on things that matter to me which would be manga and discs but not other merchandise. But I see what you're complaining about, I wouldn't blame it on Japanese viewers for having "bad taste" if they don't contribute to the sales of my favorite shows. In fact, I'm only sad that they may not enjoy the anime series (which I really liked) enough to buy the series.



Liking a anime and buying it are completely different things.

You can easily like any type of anime , but it is hard for male otakus to buy anime without cute girls or for female otakus to buy anime without cute/cool guys

That's why people often say you have to buy them if you want to complain.
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*** **1 **2 *** *** *** *** | -- | Free! 2
**4 *18 **8 *** *** *** *** | -- | Love Live! 7
**2 *17 *10 *** *** *** *** | -- | SymphogearG 1
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Genshiken Nidaime 2
*12 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shingeki 3
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umashikaneko said:
tingy said:
Yvese said:

You buy it to support the creators and/or to collect it because you liked it enough to spend money on it. You don't have to re-watch it. Heck, some don't even open it and just put it on a shelf with the rest of their collection.

That and you don't have to buy the discs to support a show. You can buy the novel/manga/cds and other merchandise. Those are far cheaper and you can probably get most of them for the price of 1 BD volume.

Really though, if you can't afford it that's completely fine. My earlier post was just about people complaining that their show didn't sell, then they put the blame on the Japanese buyers for buying the wrong show and how their tastes suck. Well, last I checked anime is aimed at, *gasp*, Japanese viewers so clearly shows will be made with their tastes in mind.

That's true, it reminds me when kpop fans buy multiple physical copies of the CDs just to support their favorite groups. I understand that you can support a show by other means, but I guess for me I would only want to spend money on things that matter to me which would be manga and discs but not other merchandise. But I see what you're complaining about, I wouldn't blame it on Japanese viewers for having "bad taste" if they don't contribute to the sales of my favorite shows. In fact, I'm only sad that they may not enjoy the anime series (which I really liked) enough to buy the series.



Liking a anime and buying it are completely different things.

You can easily like any type of anime , but it is hard for male otakus to buy anime without cute girls or for female otakus to buy anime without cute/cool guys

That's why people often say you have to buy them if you want to complain.


Okay, the Japanese non-otaku audience doesn't have "bad taste", it doesn't have money ^_^

Thanks for the Coppelion info :]
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*6, 1,683 **1,683 Cossette no Shouzou

So, they made a movie out of the three OVA and released it in BD only? Are there changes to the story, does anyone know?
It is just the OVAs all got put in one BD. This is because, if I remember correctly, this anime only got DVD release back then.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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^^^ Symphogear G volume 1 _did_ come with an event ticket lottery application for "Symphogear Live"! I can get read the details if you like, normally I just ignore them sadly as I can't go...

Oh, I didn't know about that. Would be great if they'd record this for a DVD release.
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^^^ Symphogear G volume 1 _did_ come with an event ticket lottery application for "Symphogear Live"! I can get read the details if you like, normally I just ignore them sadly as I can't go...

Oh, I didn't know about that. Would be great if they'd record this for a DVD release.


Coverage of 'Symphogear Live' is not currently listed for any of the 6 discs:
http://symphogear-g.com/product/

But if the concert is good they could release it as a separate item at a later date. It should have Nana Mizuki after all.

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On another topic, IS2 volume 1's official site page finally lists episode 1!!!
http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/is2/disc/
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People are surprised that a show about talking raccoons that wasnt aimed at 8 year olds didn't sell?
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Free!'s killing everything o-o. Never thought fujoshis could unite and do something like this.
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