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Jun 8, 2008 12:44 PM

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the_prime_one said:
samurai wins hands down.
naruto was a ninja, and was he cool? no.

lol agreed
Jun 8, 2008 1:07 PM

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Samurai, definitely.
Jun 8, 2008 3:08 PM

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As expected, a samurai v ninja thread draws people like flies to brown substances, and the poll is so close! I'm worried of voting, I could tip the scales.

Ninja do have freedom, not bound by too many rules.

Samurai however have honour, which can go a long way.

Samurai also have the lovely katana, whereas ninja have smaller weaponry. However we cant decide this debate via weaponary because both groups have cool weapons.

We need to figure out what the question means. What is the question? If we can make the question more specific, the criteria becomes clearer and then I can pick a side.

As it is now, I just cant pick. :(
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Jun 27, 2008 6:15 PM

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Not all ninjas are like Naruto.
Jun 27, 2008 6:45 PM

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Samurais. the spirit of there battle just gets too me, with its tradition as well.
Jun 27, 2008 6:48 PM

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i love both of them, but i'll have to go with ninjas. they seem more well-rounded.

Jun 27, 2008 8:23 PM
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Ninjas are overrated Samurais definitely
Jun 27, 2008 8:41 PM
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Ninjas, most definitely. I don't know, but it has to do with something about being all stealthy and stuff. :)

Jun 27, 2008 10:57 PM

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after just recently finishing samurai champloo i will have to say Samurai FTW!!!

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Jun 27, 2008 11:29 PM

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Going for samurai here... I'm sure everyone already knows the difference between historical and "fantasized" ninjas (historically they were better masters of disguise than of battle), but that aside, bushido is just plain awesome. AND they have Musashi. Plus, if you need your fictional fighters to be more badass, go for ronins.
This post influenced by: Stranger - Mukoh Hadan

Now, if it was pirates vs. samurai, I'd be having a hard time.
Jun 27, 2008 11:34 PM

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Samurai hands down.

I like how they fight for honor and the fights are just so much fun to watch. While ninjas are too stealthy and the fights (or assassination) can be over like that.
Jun 28, 2008 12:03 AM

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Pirates!!

Wait, no Pirates Vs. Ninjas? Aww.. Then definetely Samurai.

Here we have a common Samurai Vs. Ninja scene.
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Jun 28, 2008 1:51 AM

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I'm not too fond of ninjas. Not because I don't like them, but because it's a dark profession in real history.

I used to play a role-play game called Taikou Risshiden, where you can play as a wanderer, blacksmith, ninja, shogun (or you can even work your way up from an officer up to shogun), merchant etc in the late 16th century. Being a ninja means you're stuck with it forever. Sure you do espionage, sabotage, assassinations, and perhaps guerilla warfare when called for by a daimyo or a shogun, which can be interesting and cool especially in the game's point of view. But quitting your clan means betrayal and you will be under pursuit from it for the rest of your life.
Jun 28, 2008 2:08 AM

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Ninja. No rules = better killer, if that's what you're asking. If you're asking which do we like better, I like both since both trades require a great deal of skill, although I don't think bushido is particularly impressive since basically it boils down to "do as your master says," or rather "kill whomever your master says, including yourself."
Jun 28, 2008 4:05 AM

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Ninja get a bad rap. There's hardly any good ninja films, but a billion samurai films. (hopefully Wachowskis can rejuvenate the ninja revival with Ninja Assassin which they are producing...)
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Jun 28, 2008 9:08 AM

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Samurais all the way (so says someone that has sat throw Kagemusha 7 times)

Ninjas are just lowly assaisns
Cihan said:
As expected, a samurai v ninja thread draws people like flies to brown substances, and the poll is so close! I'm worried of voting, I could tip the scales.

Ninja do have freedom, not bound by too many rules.

Samurai however have honour, which can go a long way.

Samurai also have the lovely katana, whereas ninja have smaller weaponry. However we cant decide this debate via weaponary because both groups have cool weapons.

Samurais are allowed to use other weapons as a former Iaidō studyer I was allowed to use the sword (First lession was just about sitin and risein properly and then on to how to handle the blade ie drawin the sword and putin it back into its sheath)
(I even got told off once for hndin the sheathed Kitana to the sensei with the blade bit facein him)(tis considerd to be a sig that your gonna try to kill him)

But Samurais used to carry two swords the stadred Kitana and a wakazchi (forgive me spellin)
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Jun 28, 2008 9:10 AM

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Ninjas, because they are flexible to fight almost any fighting environment and people
Jun 28, 2008 9:13 AM

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Darkprinny said:
Samurais are allowed to use other weapons as a former Iaidō studyer I was allowed to use the sword (First lession was just about sitin and risein properly and then on to how to handle the blade ie drawin the sword and putin it back into its sheath)
(I even got told off once for hndin the sheathed Kitana to the sensei with the blade bit facein him)(tis considerd to be a sig that your gonna try to kill him)

But Samurais used to carry two swords the stadred Kitana and a wakazchi (forgive me spellin)


No, I know that, but ninja weapons generally are more compact, which was the point I was making. A random samurai on the street would have a katana and wakizashi to protect himself with but a ninja would probably have a larger array of mischievous tools. The smallest samurai weapon would be a tanto I think they're called, like a dagger.

But I suppose you could counter that even though samurai weaponary is limited, it means the fighter himself is more adept than the ninja who relies on his weaponary?

But it just comes back to what I said earlier:

Cihan earlier said:
However we cant decide this debate via weaponary because both groups have cool weapons.
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Jun 28, 2008 9:22 AM
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Samurai for the historical significance.
Jun 28, 2008 10:08 AM

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Samurais <3

Jun 28, 2008 10:28 AM

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Cihan said:
[No, I know that, but ninja weapons generally are more compact, which was the point I was making. A random samurai on the street would have a katana and wakizashi to protect himself with but a ninja would probably have a larger array of mischievous tools. The smallest samurai weapon would be a tanto I think they're called, like a dagger.

But I suppose you could counter that even though samurai weaponary is limited, it means the fighter himself is more adept than the ninja who relies on his weaponary?

But it just comes back to what I said earlier:

Cihan earlier said:
However we cant decide this debate via weaponary because both groups have cool weapons.


Samurais tend to have Aikido as a armless fightin stlye (seen at its best in the Baby cart films)


Oh crap its happenin again

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Darkprinny said:
MUST STAY OUTA SAMURAI TOPICS


Ok, now lets discuss the pros and cons of Aikido versus Ninjutsu!
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Jun 28, 2008 12:17 PM

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Aikido vs Ninjitsu ?

Aikido - Is mostly a counter style that useis that attackers momentum against them (Used by Steven Segal)
Ninjitsu (not the anime version) - is basicly a assassination way of fightin best seen in ..............................................................TENCHU

Bugger
Now my Tenchu fanboyism is gonna start
Lets hope theres not gonna be a "Pirates vs Ninjas" thread or im gonna have to go with the former due to its clostes anime/toon likeness (One piece, Pirates of dark water, Popeye)
Damn three generations off animation there
Annnnnnnnnyway

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Jun 28, 2008 12:24 PM

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I'm actually thinking of doing Aikido while I'm over in Japan. Should be fun!

Anyway, back on topic. Seems like Samurai's leading by 10 votes. I still havent voted either.

Still need the question to be more specific. "Who kicks ass more?" isnt cutting it.

"Who kicks ass more while dressed all in black?" Well, duh.
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Jun 28, 2008 2:16 PM

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Samurai, ninjas are chinese ...
Jun 29, 2008 1:00 AM

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Cihan said:
I'm actually thinking of doing Aikido while I'm over in Japan. Should be fun!

Anyway, back on topic. Seems like Samurai's leading by 10 votes. I still havent voted either.

Still need the question to be more specific. "Who kicks ass more?" isnt cutting it.

"Who kicks ass more while dressed all in black?" Well, duh.

Samurais dress in black to
*Points to the baby cart films*

Aikido is ok but its mostly about foot work and not about foot to face WORK !
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Jun 29, 2008 1:08 AM

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Pewdie said:
Samurai, ninjas are chinese ...

They are Japanese.
Jun 29, 2008 1:50 AM

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The Ninja that uses a Samurai Sword =3
Jun 29, 2008 8:07 AM

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definetly samurais! they have much more style ^^
Jun 29, 2008 8:55 AM

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After conducting EXTENSIVE RESEARCH on this very salient topic, I have come to the conclusions that ninjas are the obvious choice. In addition to the reasons on the page above, I offer the following evidence/words of warning:
  • When Kawasaki wanted to give a name to their fastest motorcycle, what did they give it? That's right -- Ninja. When Suzuki wanted to name their fastest motorcycle, what did they name it? The Hayabusa. Guess what they named the Samurai.
  • The current poll results are inaccurate by the mere fact that a ninja could post in this thread, and you wouldn't even see it. My long-term detection training has enabled me to detect three ninja posts in this thread so far. And they are not happy. My conservative estimate, based on this, is that there are approximately 10,000 votes for "ninja" in this poll/thread you all are just unable to see.
  • This is not very well-known, but the Japanimation series "Naruto" was created by ninjas in order to cover their real activities. There is an entire generation of kids today growing up thinking ninjas are melodramatic loudmouths who wear bright paramilitary gear and sandals and need to go through some elaborate series of hand signs in order to summon their magic. There has been only one annie may series to portray the ninja accurately and that was "Honey and Clover". "But I didn't see any ninjas in Honey and Clover!" typical fan spouts. Exactly my friend, exactly. Trust me, they were there. Ninjas are nothing if not ironic.
  • If samurais lose this poll, they will politely write a letter to Xinil (since samurais are all literate like that) requesting an opportunity to regain their lost honor and crap. If ninjas lose this poll, they'll like teleport straight into the server room and start trashing racks and slicing lines into a gajillion pieces. Goodbye MAL. Oh, BTW, they also now have the IPs of everybody who voted "samurai". Better start filling out a change-of-address form. Not that it will help.

Executive summary: Ninjas, because they might flip out on you.
Jun 29, 2008 10:44 AM

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Nice try Iri, a worthy effort, but as the duty of devil's advocate, I think I just thought of a samurai counter-attack that you may not like...

If there were no samurai, ninja wouldnt exist in the first place.

:O

TO BE CONTINUED:
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Jun 29, 2008 10:46 AM

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Ninja, Speed > Power.
Jun 29, 2008 11:00 AM

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Samurais also get to ware kick ass armor when goin to big battles

Also there helmits duoble up as a nice thing to roast marshmellows on
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Jun 29, 2008 11:32 AM

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Samurais are all about honor, and facing your opponent fairly. That's real courage.

Ninjas use stealth attacks, and raid their opponents when they least expect it. so in comparison, ninjas are just too cowardly for me to like them better than samurais



Jun 29, 2008 12:18 PM

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Ninjas...they would kill samurais before they knew what hit them
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Jun 29, 2008 12:23 PM

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Ever since I saw The Last Samurai, its samurai for me. x3


Jun 29, 2008 1:17 PM

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Ninjas - They're shneaky.
Jun 29, 2008 2:47 PM

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GhettoDragon said:
Ninjas...they would kill samurais before they knew what hit them


Thats the main reason! Even if their methods would cause them to be extinct, samurais still fight fairly; head to head. The poll wasnt about the survivor, but about who kicks more ass. And i would say a samurai kicks a superior amount of ass



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Kazekage said:
Thats the main reason! Even if their methods would cause them to be extinct, samurais still fight fairly; head to head. The poll wasnt about the survivor, but about who kicks more ass. And i would say a samurai kicks a superior amount of ass


Agreed! But let's not forget that samurai are capable of backstabbing/being disloyal/cowards. They have human qualities about them. I find that more appealing than that sort of "omnipotent" air of a ninja. :3
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Kazekage said:
GhettoDragon said:
Ninjas...they would kill samurais before they knew what hit them


Thats the main reason! Even if their methods would cause them to be extinct, samurais still fight fairly; head to head. The poll wasnt about the survivor, but about who kicks more ass. And i would say a samurai kicks a superior amount of ass


Don't get it misconstrued, I didn't vote on who would live or die. As far as kicking ass, sure samurais are honorable and that's a great trait, but in order for a ninja's plan to succeed in acts such as assassination for example, it takes a great deal of preparation, training, and dedication. Also,how kick ass is it for a shogun to decide every battle that a samurai has to fight while ninjas can pick their own battle for the right price.
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Jun 29, 2008 3:33 PM

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I'll go with ninjas - I like their fighting style better.
Jun 29, 2008 7:29 PM
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Hmmmm... well I suppose it was inevitable that this conversation would be a more casual one... but really. Samurai have done more for Japan (and the world) than Ninja have. Even if you're thinking about it from the perspective of an anime fan, Samurai have done more for the arts of Japan than Ninja have.
Jun 29, 2008 7:42 PM
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*looks at username* ninja, fer sure~~~~
Jun 29, 2008 8:17 PM

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i honestly like ninjas better. they had to be fast and secretive. They may not have had as much strength as a samurai but they were usually faster and much better at hit and run tactics.
Yes, samurai contributed a lot to Japanese history, but no one can really know just how much the ninja contributed since it was in their very nature to be secretive.

In a fair fight a samurai would probably win. However they were soldiers of war, and war isn't fair, thus the reason ninja were created in the first place.

Jun 29, 2008 8:20 PM

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well everyone says samurais are way stronger than ninjas.
but overall i like both.


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Jun 30, 2008 10:30 AM

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all i know is SAM owns NIN in FFXI so year SAM for me. Let the Narutards have NIN!
Jul 3, 2008 9:12 AM

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Samurais , cause I prefer fight with swords than with those weird weapons ninja uses :D . Sword rules :)
Jul 3, 2008 11:04 AM

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NINJAS, they were very crafty......Dattebayo!
Aug 9, 2008 8:44 PM

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This Thread reminds me of Nabari no Ou o.O

I prefer Ninjas
Aug 19, 2008 8:06 AM

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Samurai, ninjas come to mind unintentionally like 'cheaters' or sth
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