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Feb 25, 2022 9:22 AM

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Just read about Snake Island, completely disgusting affair. On the part of the Russian military slaughtering them, and the Ukrainian government for not ordering their surrender.
Feb 25, 2022 9:26 AM

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I'm hearing Ukrainian reports of 22 russian tanks blown up near or in Mariupol. Supposedly according to its mayor. https://twitter.com/Guderian_Xaba/status/1497213669444304903?s=20&t=T-iMrDkfJVWeHqJqAAJxxw

He reported 15 yesterday. So if it's 22 it would be consistent at least. Keep in mind any reports from any side should be taken with some salt.

Odessa air defenses firing. Russian reports of all air defense down is a lie.
https://files.catbox.moe/e8sttf.mp4

Nuclear Regulation Service of Ukraine has data that says there is an increase of radiation in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone

Ukrainian to English Translation (Google Translate):

Data from the Automated Radiation Control System of the Exclusion Zone, which are available online, indicate that the control levels of gamma radiation dose rate (red dots) have been exceeded at a significant part of the observation points. Due to the occupation and hostilities, it is currently impossible to establish the reasons for the change in the radiation background in the exclusion zone.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=320637100107551&id=100064837892613

A bunch of tracked armored vehicles racing south overland have stirred up the contaminated dirt. This triggered the sensors.
LoliAnchormanFeb 25, 2022 9:32 AM
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Russians ‘lost a little bit of their momentum’ against stiff Ukrainian resistance: US official

Though the Russian onslaught in Ukraine continues, their momentum has slowed against stiff Ukrainian resistance, a senior defense official told reporters Friday morning.

“Based on all the things that we’ve talked about, and what we’ve seen over the last 24 hours, we do assess that there is greater resistance by the Ukrainians than the Russians expected,” the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. “I’m not able to quantify that resistance for you. I’m just telling you what we’re seeing.”

While missiles continue to rain down on Kyiv and other cities — about 200 total since the attack began — “the Russians have lost a little bit of their momentum,” the official said. “They are not advancing as far or as fast as we believe they expected they would do that. A good indicator of that is no population centers have been taken, none.”

Ukraine forces have also maintained some air defense capabilities, the official said

https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/ukraine/2022/02/24/nato-agrees-to-beef-up-eastern-flank-over-ukraine-attack/



Fate_Saber88Feb 25, 2022 9:56 AM
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Feb 25, 2022 9:39 AM

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RuneRem said:
Just read about Snake Island, completely disgusting affair. On the part of the Russian military slaughtering them, and the Ukrainian government for not ordering their surrender.
It's basically a modern day version of this.

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Some classic Russian dashcam (in East Europe Car Insurance requires dashcams) except narrowly avoiding being hit by shelling. Took place in Kharkov.

https://files.catbox.moe/3zqlgo.mp4

https://twitter.com/EJ_Burrows/status/1497252061678813187
>Russia has released a document from their health ministry to hire any private sector doctors, sugeons and nurses to travel to near the warzone to help with back-line medical procedures.
>Tweet states that this is highly unusual for a state to hire out it's own private sector healthcare workers to help with military operations and that medical military staff were not expecting this many casulties from the Ukrainian invasion.

Starting to see the results of giving out weapons to panicked untrained civilians. Some locals got shot because they were in a green car (dead bodies).
https://mobile.twitter.com/leonelk855/status/1497203394020265988

DAY OF THE SHAVE incoming indeed.
https://files.catbox.moe/r5ietd.mp4
Chechnyans loading up.

Factory explosion in Kharkiv
https://files.catbox.moe/j4mtmv.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/urv31j.mp4


Fate_Saber88 said:
This firefight is crazy reminds me of Fallujah.
Melitopol has been frontline since the beginning. So yeah it's like Fallujah where the US only won via making it so anyone there is born with an extra horn or ear.
LoliAnchormanFeb 25, 2022 10:18 AM
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Feb 25, 2022 12:11 PM

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This is said to be a gathering of Russian anti-war protesters in Saint Petersburg last night.
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1496905869983768581?s=20&t=0giwHXbuecNSE8ncFhIfUA
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Feb 25, 2022 12:24 PM
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Ukraine death toll hits 137 with 316 wounded as Russian assault intensifies
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-news-russia-war-deaths-b2022806.html

wut? i thought Ukraine will have more deaths than Russian soldiers by now but Ukrainian Soldiers are more capable huh or maybe Ukraine has better military gears and weapons than Russia
Feb 25, 2022 12:36 PM

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Ukraine death toll hits 137 with 316 wounded as Russian assault intensifies
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-news-russia-war-deaths-b2022806.html

wut? i thought Ukraine will have more deaths than Russian soldiers by now but Ukrainian Soldiers are more capable huh or maybe Ukraine has better military gears and weapons than Russia
Russia is focused only on taking out critical stuff. Like radar, airbases, factories, and etc.

Example is Russians took out a railway oil depot and another airport this time its Kulbakino

https://files.catbox.moe/tz5xlp.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/35r1mb.mp4
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Feb 25, 2022 12:39 PM
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i see well Putin is willing to sacrifice his soldiers like it does not make sense to me if the death toll of Russian Soldiers will be the same either way but i dont know maybe Putin calculated the death toll better
Feb 25, 2022 1:03 PM

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i see well Putin is willing to sacrifice his soldiers like it does not make sense to me if the death toll of Russian Soldiers will be the same either way but i dont know maybe Putin calculated the death toll better
Putin doesn't want to use high-altitude bombers and risk turning the country into a smoldering ruin so he has to use precision strike aircraft which fly low and are easy to hit. Aircraft guns are just big machine guns so you can hit an aircraft with a rifle (old rifles used to have anti-air sights), missiles are for beyond sight range which isn't the case in Ukraine where in every clip you see aircraft is like 10 feet above trees.

The first thing they did was try to capture the airport outside the Capital. They got repulsed because they were just airdropping people at the Capital. Taking big risks can be bad.

Ukraine is a flat terrain, like perfect for ancient chariot battles. During the Iraq Wars all the US had to do to take out tanks was just aim with their tanks. You can see for miles on flat terrain. Tanks are supposed to be guarding the infantry which is behind them and for breaking infantry lines like ancient war elephants. They were made for breaking trenches.

Ukraine has the killing advantage but it doesn't mean they will win. Each airbase or supply depot that gets blown up is bad for them and not for Russia which has mobile supply lines. Ukraine is a HUGE nation so you need rest-stops if you live off the land like Ukraine.
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French hypocrisy:



https://twitter.com/RemyBuisine/status/1497272568419688450

Meusnier said:
I knew that it was going to happen.

American Mathematical Society Cancels Participation in 2022 ICM Conference in Russia

The AMS leadership is alarmed by the current situation in Ukraine and its implications for the 2022 International Congress of Mathematicians (ICM), scheduled to take place in St. Petersburg, Russia. International exchange is essential to the growth and health of research mathematics. The ICM provides a unique opportunity to support and celebrate these connections, but not under current conditions. The AMS has no plans to send representatives to a meeting in St. Petersburg. We urge the International Mathematical Union not to hold the ICM in Russia in July 2022.

The AMS-NSF-Simons-ICM travel grant program has been suspended. Those who have already been approved for travel grants will receive further instructions from the AMS.

The American Mathematical Society (AMS) is a professional association of 30,000 individuals and 570 institutions worldwide dedicated to advancing mathematics research and scholarship and connecting the global math community through publications, meetings, advocacy, career development and more.

https://insidehpc.com/2022/02/american-mathematical-society-cancels-participation-in-2022-icm-conference-in-russia/

https://www.ams.org/news?news_id=6987

Last time it happened was in 1982 in Warsaw. It was delayed to 1983, but this time, it will be cancelled if Americans do not come.

Another notable even is Grothendieck who refused to go to Moscow in 1966 to receive his Fields medal in order to protest against the Soviet military intervention in Eastern Europe. This time, a certain Ukrainian mathematician might do the same if she was awarded the medal...

I have yet to see a statement from the European Mathematical Society. Nothing on the Twitter accounts of both the AMS and the EMS.

They should have chosen Paris for the ICM 2022... I blame France for not giving enough money to win the competition back then (in 2018).

The UK made a similar statement yesterday, and finally (the siesta was quite long) the European Mathematical Society made a statement too.

Statement of the Executive Board of the European Mathematical Society on ICM 2022 in Russia

Volker Mehrmann, President of the European Mathematical Society

The Executive Board of the European Mathematical Society is deeply concerned about the Russian invasion in Ukraine and expresses its strong solidarity with the people of Ukraine and our fellow mathematicians in Ukraine. While International Mathematical Congresses (ICM) have been and always will be a way to unite the world community of mathematicians, under the current circumstances, we call on the International Mathematical Union not to proceed with the ICM in Russia in July 2022.

https://euromathsoc.org/news/statement-of-the-executive-board-of-the-european-mathematical-society-on-icm-2022-in-russia-54

https://www.lms.ac.uk/node/1848

Just cancel the ICM already and move it to Paris in Summer 2023.
Feb 25, 2022 1:39 PM

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Video of Russia moving some ICBMs around in Moscow area.

https://twitter.com/IdeologyWars/status/1497306680006221833

https://twitter.com/IdeologyWars/status/1497319492820475905

https://www.armyrecognition.com/analysis_focus_army_defence_military_industry_army/russia_tests_strategic_deterrence_at_ground_air_and_naval_exercises.html

It looks like a YARS according to @theragex on Twitter.
The Defense Ministry showed a successful launch of Yars intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). The mobile launcher was camouflaged against space and air intelligence. The missile blasted off from Plesetsk spaceport and targeted an object in the Kura range in Kamchatka.

Yars RS-24 is a mobile and stationary launcher with a solid-fuel multiple-warhead. It was designed in the years 2000 by the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technologies under the leadership of Chief Designer Yuri Solomonov. Yars was developed from Topol-M. The first test launch took place on May 29, 2007 from Plesetsk spaceport at Kura range. The deployment began in December 2009, as Yars went on combat training duty in the Strategic Missile Forces. Yars and Topol-M replaced RS-18 and RS-20 ICBM. The rearmament with Yars is ongoing.

Strategic forces Commander Colonel-General Sergey Karakaev said Yars can maneuver in the trajectory to escape space-based interception. It can be launched from sites, which are fit for Topol only after engineering buildup.


More: https://www.armyrecognition.com/february_2019_global_defense_security_army_news_industry/russia_test-fires_rs-24_yars_intercontinental_ballistic_missile.html
LoliAnchormanFeb 25, 2022 1:46 PM
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LoliAnchorman said:
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i see well Putin is willing to sacrifice his soldiers like it does not make sense to me if the death toll of Russian Soldiers will be the same either way but i dont know maybe Putin calculated the death toll better
Putin doesn't want to use high-altitude bombers and risk turning the country into a smoldering ruin so he has to use precision strike aircraft which fly low and are easy to hit. Aircraft guns are just big machine guns so you can hit an aircraft with a rifle (old rifles used to have anti-air sights), missiles are for beyond sight range which isn't the case in Ukraine where in every clip you see aircraft is like 10 feet above trees.

The first thing they did was try to capture the airport outside the Capital. They got repulsed because they were just airdropping people at the Capital. Taking big risks can be bad.

Ukraine is a flat terrain, like perfect for ancient chariot battles. During the Iraq Wars all the US had to do to take out tanks was just aim with their tanks. You can see for miles on flat terrain. Tanks are supposed to be guarding the infantry which is behind them and for breaking infantry lines like ancient war elephants. They were made for breaking trenches.

Ukraine has the killing advantage but it doesn't mean they will win. Each airbase or supply depot that gets blown up is bad for them and not for Russia which has mobile supply lines. Ukraine is a HUGE nation so you need rest-stops if you live off the land like Ukraine.
Remember turning eastern EU cities into smoldering ruins sometimes gives the advantage to defenders, it might complicate movement with all the debris piled up and make tanks even more vulnerable to St. Javelins.
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Feb 25, 2022 2:24 PM

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Foreign Policy reports that President Joe Biden has formally ended discussions with Russia on arms control.

Neighbor and NATO-member Poland is equipping Ukrainian forces with man-portable air-defense systems.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2022/02/24/live-updates-from-russias-massive-ukraine-invasion/


Nuclear missiles in Belarus so nuclear missiles in Italy, Turkey, Poland, and Romania too?

Poland publicly sending weapons, is Russia going to consider Poland belligerent? How are they gonna react to this? Attack a NATO member? Also, this means a declared proxy war, Russia better rush on this if this takes too long some 1980s PTSD might kick in.

Russia suffers heavy losses near Koblevo - Center for Strategic Communications

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have killed 25 Russian paratroopers near Koblevo.

The Center for Strategic Communications and Information Security reported this on Telegram, citing posts from the head of the Public Council at Odesa Regional State Administration, Serhiy Bratchuk, and MP Oleksiy Honcharenko.

"Fighters of the 28th Mechanized Brigade have killed 25 Russian paratroopers in the battle near Koblevo," the statement reads.


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Zelensky warns citizens that Russia will ‘storm’ Kyiv overnight
Roman Olearchyk in Kyiv


Addressing his Russian war ravaged nation on television just before midnight on Friday, Ukraine’s president urged his citizens to brace for the most difficult night of the conflict that could decide the nation’s freedom and independence.

“Tonight the enemy will use all the forces at their disposal to break our resistance -- vile, cruel and inhuman. Tonight they will storm. We must all understand what awaits us,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

He spoke as Russian troops moved to surround and breach Kyiv, the country’s capital city, while also pushing deeper into the country from the north, east and south.

“We have to persevere tonight. The fate of Ukraine is being decided right now. The night will be hard, very hard, but there will be a morning,” Zelensky added.

He said “many cities of our state are under attack . . . the capital cannot be lost.”~

https://www.ft.com/content/93554a7e-f974-49fc-85ba-c111d253b002

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The ghost is a legend, highly unlikely to be true but if it's true there is no way that jet could lift such massive balls.
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This is funny image, but pretty accurate.
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Ukraine claims downing of Russian Ilyushin-76 military paratrooper plane
Roman Olearchyk in Kyiv


Valery Zaluzhny, chief commander of Ukraine’s armed forces, said the country’s air defence forces had around midnight on Friday shot down a Russian Ilyushin-76 paratrooper plane south of Kyiv near the town of Vasylkiv.

“Our air defence forces shot down an IL-76 with enemy paratroopers in the region of Vasylkiv,” Zaluzhny said in a Facebook post.


Ukrainian and Russian military claims cannot be independently verified.

Zaluzhny in his comments referred to the 2014 downing over the city of Luhansk of a Ukrainian plane of the same class that killed nearly 50 Ukrainian paratroopers. The incident occurred at the beginning of a proxy separatist war that Russia fomented in Ukraine’s far east after occupying the Crimean peninsula.

“This is payback for Luhansk 2014. Death to the enemies,” Zaluzhny added.

https://www.ft.com/content/93554a7e-f974-49fc-85ba-c111d253b002

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RuneRem said:
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NATO is however preparing for all the refugees.


I'm not sure about that, pro-migrant countries have already closed their borders to Ukrainian refugess because they are not diverse enough, such as Sweden.
Anyway there's no reason to be a refugee, the war will be over shortly, and they will be Russian Citizens instead of Ukrainian Citizens.


All that depends on how the talks between Putin and Zelensky will go
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-russia-are-discussing-place-time-talks-zelenskiys-spokesman-2022-02-25/
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Kazakhstan is not supporting this.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1497386190152024064

Kazakhstan has a Russian Minority near its border with Russia so that's why. A bunch of Russian Nationalists tried to cause something there in the past.

Russia is now an Anime Villain


"If you block cooperation with us, who will save the International Space Station (ISS) from an uncontrolled deorbit and fall into the United States or...Europe?" Rogozin said in one of his tweets. "There is also the possibility of a 500-ton structure falling on India and China. Do you want to threaten them with such a prospect? The ISS does not fly over Russia, therefore all the risks are yours. Are you ready for them?"


https://news.yahoo.com/russian-space-chief-threatens-international-231359708.html
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Feb 25, 2022 6:09 PM
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Kyiv is gonna fall within 12-24 hours from now they say

will Zelensky die in vain?
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There are now reports that Putin is using the Chechens to fight the war for him. This might be the biggest cuckoldery in modern history.
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deg said:
Kyiv is gonna fall within 12-24 hours from now they say

will Zelensky die in vain?
There's been fighting in Shulyavka neighborhood
https://twitter.com/astianmi/status/1497387898915725313

Location: https://mapcarta.com/N1439495319

Despite this Ukraine repelled a Russian attack on a army base in Kiev
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-president-stays-put-russian-invaders-advance-2022-02-25/
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LoliAnchorman said:
deg said:
Kyiv is gonna fall within 12-24 hours from now they say

will Zelensky die in vain?
There's been fighting in Shulyavka neighborhood
https://twitter.com/astianmi/status/1497387898915725313

Location: https://mapcarta.com/N1439495319

Despite this Ukraine repelled a Russian attack on a army base in Kiev
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-president-stays-put-russian-invaders-advance-2022-02-25/


>Ukraine and Russia will consult in coming hours on a time and place for talks, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's spokesman Sergii Nykyforov said on social media, offering the first glimmer of hope for diplomacy since the invasion began.

oh that is good news hopefully it happens
Feb 25, 2022 7:10 PM

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Kyiv/Kiev livestream now has distant gunfire in background.
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Kyiv's geographical position is terrible to defend any attack coming from Belarus, anyway, 2 IL-76 shot down which means 400 body bags back to Russia and counting, I suspect if no terms or any talks take place Kyiv might fall in 12 hours. If Ukrainians don't want to live under Russia's dictatorship they should start planning an insurgency right now, they won't have a silver of freedom after Putin takes over.
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If Ukrainians don't want to live under Russia's dictatorship they should start planning an insurgency right now, they won't have a silver of freedom after Putin takes over.
REMINDER

Anyone who wants to needs to put at least an Armband on so it's legal under Geneva Conventions.

Also Maidan Square has LOUD Gunfire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q7FuPINDjA
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Putin is calling for the Ukranian military to coup its government so he can kill them easier. What, with an estimated 3,000 Russian casualties in the fighting around Kharkiv alone.

The US sent 180,000 soldiers to invade Iraq and expected high casualties. That it didn't materialize was unforeseen, actually...

Probably not gonna work so he has agreed to talks after a few days.
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Russian defense ministry spokesman:

Russian armed forces suffered no losses
https://iz.ru/1296862/2022-02-25/v-minoborony-zaiavili-ob-otsutstvii-poter-v-vooruzhennykh-silakh-rossii

Obviously they took away Russian citizenship from all those crispy critters. Can't have Russian deaths if they aren't Russian.

ALSO the soldiers at Snake Island/Zmiinyi Island surrendered and weren't killed in an act of valiant defiance


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Dawn has arrived and the Ukrainians in Kiev still have some air defenses left.

https://files.catbox.moe/99rkck.mp4

I'm impressed. The crazy Khokhols are still holding on.

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Also literal Russian commies are voicing opposition to the invasion.

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1497425851713003526?cxt=HHwWjIC5jZy49scpAAAA

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The same press release regarding Zelensky not evaccing Kyiv has some U.S. officials backing up the two IL-76 shootdowns. Not exactly confirmation but it's more than what has been said about other claims of Ukraine kicking Russia's teeth in.
https://twitter.com/JimLaPorta/status/1497428052988641281

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Russians have begun shelling Uman in Central Ukraine, supposedly with rocket artillery.
https://files.catbox.moe/8dx42g.mp4

Shelling has also restarted in Kharkiv. North-Eastern Ukraine
https://files.catbox.moe/0as2ys.mp4

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The USA is giving Ukraine some money. Better late then never I guess?
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1497435553503092736?

I think they would rather have something different than paper money...like Javelins.

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According to Ukrainian Internet a Ukrainian Youtuber by the name of Anton Kudrin died with his wife and one kid is dead. Two other kids escaped.

This is him.
https://youtu.be/tzJndFDIxXM?t=3405
Думаю тут багато мисливців знали :confused: Антона Кудріна. Його відео викладалися на телеканалі Трофей і ютуб каналі Ібіса. Ось така інфа:

"Только что растреляли Кудрина Антона машину с детьми на оболонки. Антон, Света и один ребенок мертвы. Двое детей убежало. Оксана Охана написала ;("

Машина його 100%.
Суки! :smile_7
I think a lot of hunters here knew Anton Kudrin. His videos were posted on the TV channel Trophy and YouTube channel Ibis. Here is the following infa :

"Only a part of the shot of Kudrin Anton's car with children on the shells. Anton, Sveta and one rib are dead. Two children ran away. Oksana Ohana wrote ;("

The car is 100%.
Bitches!

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Reddit did it, boys!

The Russian government just got demonetized on Facebook!
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/13872213
NEW YORK, February 26th. / TASS /. The leadership of the social network Facebook has banned Russian state-owned media from showing advertising and monetization around the world. This was stated on Friday by the head of his security policy office, Nathaniel Gleicher.

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Oh please let him get trapped in Kiev
https://www.wionews.com/entertainment/hollywood/news-sean-penn-visits-ukraine-to-make-documentary-on-russian-invasion-456249
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The ghost of kiev clip is from a game called DCS.

Germany blocked the shipment of aid from Estonia to Ukraine, so they sent all aid around Germany. I think the Russians will turn the gas off in the winter (if Russia does not like Germanys actions.) and Germany will freeze. That's why the Germans are staying quiet and taking the Russians side.
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I don't find it very surprising that it is Germany and Italy who are tolerating this the most. Despite all the warnings from their allies, they still thought it is a good idea to make their entire economies 100% dependent on fascist dictatorships like China and Russia. Lesson learned, I suppose.

Why is China's trade war not working on Lithuania? Because Lithuania was smart enough not to rely on China in the first place. Now Beijing is screeching but can't do anything to stop them from supporting Taiwan. We need more allies like this. It is the illusion of economic stability that keeps the people from overthrowing those regimes. Once it is gone, they will collapse like the USSR did.
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Poland publicly sending weapons, is Russia going to consider Poland belligerent? How are they gonna react to this? Attack a NATO member?


Nope - Sending weaponry is part of proxy wars and was throughout the Cold War without direct conflict on many occasions. Russia, the U.S., and other countries regularly send weapons that will be used against other countries into warzones without direct engagement. It's similar to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, and other states giving weapons to Islamist insurgents in Syria that fight Syria and Russia or the Soviet Union and China arming North Korea and North Vietnam in the Korean War and Vietnam War, respectively (and so many dozens of other proxy wars in Latin America, East Asia, South Asia, West Asia/the Middle East, and Africa in the Cold War and the 31 years since).

If Polish weapons are sent into Ukraine, Russia will blow them up. If Polish volunteers try to cross into Ukraine, Russia will fire on them. But they won't bomb or target Polish territory and it won't come to direct exchanges between the Polish and Russian militaries.

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Kyiv's geographical position is terrible to defend any attack coming from Belarus, anyway, 2 IL-76 shot down which means 400 body bags back to Russia and counting


I've seen this claim, but no actual evidence of it. I'm not saying it's impossible or somehow unthinkable or anything - anything can happen in war and obviously there can and will be casualties on both sides (and already are), but it's very unusual and uncommon for aircraft to be downed over a large populated area in today's day and age and not have picture and video evidence, sometimes from multiple sources. People film everything and every 9 year-old and 100 year-old great grandpa in even some rural village in Somalia seems to have a smartphone these days. I've been following the conflicts in the Middle East for 10+ years and there even the smallest things are filmed in even more chaotic situations and even more battered and wartorn, impoverished areas (usually with jihadists chanting and cheering when any drone or plane is downed).
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https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2022/02/26/Russia-to-seize-foreigners-funds-in-retaliation-RIA
https://news.yahoo.com/russia-seize-foreigners-funds-retaliation-091940068.html

Russia has said it will respond to the seizure of Russian money by seizing the funds of foreigners in Russia.

Moscow won't rule out nationalizing the assets of companies registered in the US, EU and other "unfriendly jurisdictions"

https://ria.ru/20220226/sanktsii-1775239725.html

Reuters is reporting this as well. They referenced it originally being reported by Ria Novosti -- I found the article (Russian) here. It's not quite as aggressive as the Sky and Reuters articles -- the original Russian seems to be more "We're not gonna say what we're gonna do, but it's gonna be 'tough' you guys... and we're not saying foreign asset seizure is off the table."

Google translate:
"It is legitimate and reasonable. For violation of the rights of Russian citizens, a tough answer should be given. All legal reasons for this is," the politician said.

"Правомерно и обоснованно. На нарушение прав российских граждан должен быть дан жесткий ответ. Все юридические основания для этого есть", - сказал политик.

Last part is: 'All judicial basis for this is sound' - basically.

HERE COMES THE SIEGE GUNS
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1497513126924853259

The Netherlands is giving Ukraine 200 stinger missiles.
https://twitter.com/RTLnieuws/status/1497479801938055171


so actually it sounds like it's some armored vehicle abandoned and inspected by Ukrainian soldier who knows or drives similar thing.

in short, Russian piece of shit, worse than our own, dudes, look and weep, fuck, fucken greatest army in world ....
the ammo load is not complete, here everything is shit, the MRE we'll have to grab, no stand, radio is old shit, in short pizdets

https://files.catbox.moe/upkgdn.mp4

car driver stops by the BTR (I believe that's an MT-LB): "hey dudes, did you brake down?"
"nah, ran out of fuel"
"may be tow you back to Russia?"
"ha ha"
"Do you know where are you going?"
"no, I don't"
"you are going toward Kiev"

He is also passing a tank that's getting fueled up by some commandeered truck/car
https://files.catbox.moe/pns5mo.mp4

Eyewitnesses from Belarus report: “Something has just taken off from the airfield of the city of Luninets (Brest region, Belarus); there was a terrible rumble and flew.

https://files.catbox.moe/9zb0bz.mp4

So basically Kyiv is facing down Russian formations called Battalion Tactical Groups 14 of them supposedly for about 11,000 if the rumor I heard is right and some mil site has a doc describing them and how to counter them
https://www.benning.army.mil/armor/eARMOR/content/issues/2017/Spring/2Fiore17.pdf
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There are now reports that Putin is using the Chechens to fight the war for him. This might be the biggest cuckoldery in modern history.
Actually they aren't going to Ukraine after all that Mobilization and loading up.
https://www.kavkazr.com/a/podkontroljnye-ramzanu-kadyrovu-boytsy-rosgvardii-iz-chechni-ne-otpravlyayutsya-v-ukrainu/31723170.html
It should be noted that the head of Chechnya Kadyrov told reporters that no decisions were made on the transfer. He specified that Chechen security officials are ready to go "to any special operation in any territory to secure Russia.".

Kadyrov wants to once again show loyalty to the Kremlin, because he has shownly gathered so many employees of the Federal Guard at the mosque, said in a comment for the Caucasus.Realities Chechen political scientist Magomed Adamov, living in Europe.

"This is another circus from Kadyrov, no more. Due to the loud story with the Yangulbaev, he almost fell into disgrace. Therefore, he is trying by any means to prove to the Kremlin that he is his own. Ukraine has nothing to do with it, "adamov added.


Chinese state banks sanction Russia after all. Looks like loyalty is not a virtue Russians will find in their new Chinese allies.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-banks-restrict-lending-russia-200140392.html

Also paratropeers being detained across the kyiv region by local police force and civilian terrtorial defense patrols upon touchdown due to logistical issues was not on my bingo card.
https://twitter.com/komitet2012/status/1497524769134198786


Map of the fighting in the capital
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LoliAnchorman said:


Chinese state banks sanction Russia after all. Looks like loyalty is not a virtue Russians will find in their new Chinese allies.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chinese-banks-restrict-lending-russia-200140392.html


Expecting too much loyalty from the chinese is a mistake always.
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https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1497544371624943617

No fucking way...he's not gonna fucking do it...absolutely not...

...he's gonna fucking do it, isn't he?

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Prepare to see more "saboteurs" in Kiev. The Mayor's office made the following statement:

Attention! For the more effective defense of the capital and the safety of its inhabitants from today, February 26, 2022, the curfew will be valid from 17:00 to 08:00. Such a curfew time is introduced until the morning of February 28. All civilians who are on the street during the curfew will be considered members of the enemy's sabotage and reconnaissance groups. Please be sympathetic to the situation and not to go out on the streets.

https://t.me/KyivCityOfficial

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#Anonymous leaks around 200GB of emails from Belarusian weapons maker Tetraedr. This company provided logistical support to Vladimir Putin in his invasion of #Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/LatestAnonPress/status/1497515581268021251?s=20&t=Xtl0NiygyIaLG\_sQJsWD7w
LoliAnchormanFeb 26, 2022 5:42 AM
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No way, Loli.

Russia would have nothing to gain from entering Polish territory even slightly. It would very likely set in motion a world war and nuclear war. Russia and NATO/its constituent member states, have had many close calls, airspace incursions testing aerial defenses, at times even a killed soldier or two, not to mention all the covert subterfuge, but a deliberate large scale invasion initiated by one side or the other of the other's territory is something that's only imaginable if a suicidal leadership (suicidal on like the ISIL or al-Qaeda level of religious cultists) seizes power.

Russian intelligence may be (likely is) heavily monitoring Poland though from Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, and even inside Poland itself because Poland is probably going to serve as the primary weapons conduit for NATO into western Ukraine so they'll want to gain as much of an idea as possible on that type of traffic to thwart it.
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https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/kremlin-says-kyiv-rejected-its-offer-for-talks-ukraine-update

Ukraine’s leadership has rejected negotiations – Kremlin

Good. Russia might start deploying even more troops.
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https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1497566974028697600

https://twitter.com/AymanM/status/1497570078933626887

It seems that the Turks finally grew some balls and remembered all the times Russia humiliated them in their "the sick man of Europe" phase and decided to block the entrance to the black sea to the Russians.

This is huge if true because this would absolutely enrage Putin since the sole reason Russia wanted Assad still in power was to keep their port in Syria free of charge (if someone said they could have it without Assad then they wouldn't have cared).

IIRC Montreux Convention does not allow Turkey to do this unless it is itself at war.

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Locals blocking tanks

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497564780227444736?s=21

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Tangentially related but while everyone was distracted by Russia and Ukraine the US just lowkey rolled out a national vaccine passport.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2022/02/24/national-vaccine-quietly-rolled-out/?sh=3a3aa9de6be6

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IT'S HAPPENING
Foreign Minister Kuleba reports that the process to disconnect #Russia from #SWIFT has begun.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1497575113771962379

I won't be happy about $10/gallon gas though.

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Catbox.Moe isn't working but from the looks of videos it seems like Melitopol (city above Crimea which has been frontlines since Day 1) was secured by the Russians but fighting continues elsewhere. Most videos of it are Tanks followed by Infantry patrolling the Streets.

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https://twitter.com/lewy_official/status/1497500343726452744
Poland also pulls out from soccer with Russia.
LoliAnchormanFeb 26, 2022 7:11 AM
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Medvedev is threatening that Russia may restore the death penalty in retaliation.

*facepalm*

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If turkey REALLY blocks passage, this is a massive blow to russia. That passage is extremely important to them, strategically, and economically. When added to the economical pressure applied by the world right now, it's definitely going to be felt.
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https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1497567175032414208?cxt=HHwWgIC98ajatsgpAAAA

Yeah I was right, the Russians took Melitopol which had Fallujah level fighting.

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Belarus’ opposition just declared they are setting up an alternative government because the current regime committed treason in allow Russia to invade Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/tsihanouskaya/status/1497583706038484996?s=21

BTW there are two Communist Parties in Belarus. One supports Russia, the other is friendly with USA. Similar to Ukraine which had a "Communist Party IN Ukraine" and "Communist Party of Ukraine" in their local languages.

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Regardless of how this conflict ends the Russian military will certainly be changing a lot of things, from training to doctrine I'd say. Here's one example: some Ruskie flipped a BMD-4M while crossing a bridge.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1497605552733630465
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Fate_Saber88 said:
Poland publicly sending weapons, is Russia going to consider Poland belligerent? How are they gonna react to this? Attack a NATO member?


Nope - Sending weaponry is part of proxy wars and was throughout the Cold War without direct conflict on many occasions. Russia, the U.S., and other countries regularly send weapons that will be used against other countries into warzones without direct engagement. It's similar to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, and other states giving weapons to Islamist insurgents in Syria that fight Syria and Russia or the Soviet Union and China arming North Korea and North Vietnam in the Korean War and Vietnam War, respectively (and so many dozens of other proxy wars in Latin America, East Asia, South Asia, West Asia/the Middle East, and Africa in the Cold War and the 31 years since).

If Polish weapons are sent into Ukraine, Russia will blow them up. If Polish volunteers try to cross into Ukraine, Russia will fire on them. But they won't bomb or target Polish territory and it won't come to direct exchanges between the Polish and Russian militaries.

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Kyiv's geographical position is terrible to defend any attack coming from Belarus, anyway, 2 IL-76 shot down which means 400 body bags back to Russia and counting


I've seen this claim, but no actual evidence of it. I'm not saying it's impossible or somehow unthinkable or anything - anything can happen in war and obviously there can and will be casualties on both sides (and already are), but it's very unusual and uncommon for aircraft to be downed over a large populated area in today's day and age and not have picture and video evidence, sometimes from multiple sources. People film everything and every 9 year-old and 100 year-old great grandpa in even some rural village in Somalia seems to have a smartphone these days. I've been following the conflicts in the Middle East for 10+ years and there even the smallest things are filmed in even more chaotic situations and even more battered and wartorn, impoverished areas (usually with jihadists chanting and cheering when any drone or plane is downed).
I'm aware of proxy wars, I just wondered if Putin would overreact, and the two downed aircraft have been confirmed, Russia is losing massively when we consider the equipment available, This is the biggest fiasco in Russian military's recent history maybe surpassing Chechnya. The OPSEC section of Russia is worthless, their military is highly unorganized, they can't supply some of their troops anymore to the point we get to watch soldiers shoplifting small markets to meme-worthy material if losing one of the ground invasion commanders on the first day wasn't enough. Most of their troops in Kyiv are desperate attempts in order to capitulate it quicker, their supply chains are shambolic.
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Destroyed Russian engineering materiel used for river crossing operations. (Everything is age restricted)*



Russian POW



Very safe and secured Russian supply lines (ironically speaking)



More Russian POWs this time a tank crew, so young :(



Funny exchange between a Russian GAZ Tigr and Ukrainian Strela.

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Ukrainian Border Guard makes an official statement saying that the defenders of Snake Island could still be alive. These are the guys that were made into martyrs on the first day of the war for their "sacrifice".



This comes after Russia has video footage of the Snake Island people surrendering.

So the whole Snake Island thing is like Pat Tillman who was made a hero in the Iraq War by the USA but then it turns out he was shot by Americans and opposed the war.

Wag The Dog sort of thing.

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A Russian soldier and Ukrainian national guardsmen keeping a joint eye on the Chernobyl nuclear reactor after the forces agreed to stop clashes inside the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone. Not sure how accurate this is though as this is apparently the only source of the photo and people say this is from a Russian news station.
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and the two downed aircraft have been confirmed


Confirmed by whom? Was any pictorial or video evidence provided? There is a truly massive amount of propaganda and information war going on right now and it permeates all news sources from media outlets across mediums - on television, radio, and the internet (and I assume newspaper/printed press as well, but I haven't looked at any in the past few days). I've been following these type of conflicts for a long time since history, geopolitics, international affairs, etc. have been some of my main interests outside of film and television/anime/opera/etc. And I haven't seen this level of propaganda raging in quite a few years; probably the last time was in 2016 over the Battle of Aleppo in Syria.

And I'd say they're doing fine considering there's already fighting in the streets of the capital on like day two of the invasion. There will be a lot of developments in the coming days and weeks, but right now there is such a lopsided media campaign to portray this war a certain way not only concerning its backdrop and origins but down to the tactical level of the battlefield picture.
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If you look at the map then it seems pretty obvious that Crimea and Donbass are gonna be united.

A huge portion of the Ukraine army is about to be encircled near Mariupol today as a breakthrough meets forces from Crimea

This action will be the end of Ukraine resistance east of the Dniepr

Estimates are anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 will be trapped


Ukrainian army is super Paranoid around Mariupol and is checking each car in the area to see if they support Russia.
https://twitter.com/Waheed0819/status/1497619878626279431


Russian TOS-1 and BTRs in the streets of Tokmak, Ukraine (You wouldn't send a multiple rocket launcher into a city you haven't captured yet, I would assume so anyway.)
https://twitter.com/UA_BotTwitte/status/1497620041617059840
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WatchTillTandava said:
Fate_Saber88 said:
and the two downed aircraft have been confirmed


Confirmed by whom? Was any pictorial or video evidence provided? There is a truly massive amount of propaganda and information war going on right now and it permeates all news sources from media outlets across mediums - on television, radio, and the internet (and I assume newspaper/printed press as well, but I haven't looked at any in the past few days). I've been following these type of conflicts for a long time since history, geopolitics, international affairs, etc. have been some of my main interests outside of film and television/anime/opera/etc. And I haven't seen this level of propaganda raging in quite a few years; probably the last time was in 2016 over the Battle of Aleppo in Syria.

And I'd say they're doing fine considering there's already fighting in the streets of the capital on like day two of the invasion. There will be a lot of developments in the coming days and weeks, but right now there is such a lopsided media campaign to portray this war a certain way not only concerning its backdrop and origins but down to the tactical level of the battlefield picture.
They are doing fine like the VDV being unable to secure its landing sites but whatever only time will tell, and as far as it goes the street fighting in Kiyv was predicted due to its geographical location near Belarus but it seems that most tanks and supply lines can't reach the frontlines as they get ambushed by Ukrainians and there is plenty of video evidence of it, as well and confirmation. The Russian military is already being put to shame it doesn't matter that they achieve certain victory due to numbers and very little distance to cover. They are a vastly superior force but their tactics proved to be very poor, NATO would put Russian conventional forces to shame. Anyway, this war is never happening due to MAD.
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Zelensky stole all speech skill points from Putin. But speech isnt going to save him.
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Tass reported the numbers of equipment they lost and servicemen who were killed or taken hostage during the invasion in Ukraine. But then quickly deleted it. According to that information, more than 3,500 soldiers were killed or captured.
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