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| Context on that "holy" trasformation please? who and how gave mami new powers? |
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Sondfer said: Kougeru said: I must've been distracted by the amazing animation during the part where Sayaka was holding off the giant ball of energy and her arm got destroyed, and then regenerated. Felt like all the budget went into that but the rest wasn't bad by any means There is something weird going on. There is either two versions of the episode, or some streaming sites/TV channels received screwed up version. https://mobile.twitter.com/Kaeru_mado/status/1243937376809803776 Um.. Wow wtf? The version I watched was definitely the left! Double checked now. That's really bizarre. Thanks for sharing! |
KougeruMar 28, 2020 11:32 PM
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| This show resembles an idol show more than a magical girl show with its showcase of various different characters for you to oshi. It rides the coattails of the original Madoka series, but it cannot stand on its own merits alone and for that reason it's not a great show. The first few episodes were a mess, but I do think the story picked up in the later episodes and it became a real show, but by that point they had introduced too many characters for me to give a fuck about any of them. There is also absolutely no conclusion whatsoever, but also no promise of a sequel. The animation was typical Shaft, mixed with the same stylistic witches the original had, which I hate. Such an off putting art style. Iroha's magical girl form was the only character design I really enjoyed. |
| Oh man, this ending... This anime was going pretty well, right up until the ending... I'm guessing this means there'll be a season 2, but damn... I did not like that ending at all... As a stand alone anime, it's aight, but when compared to the legendary Madoka Magica... It's just not even a fair comparison. Still, I'll look forward to the second season, if it does get made. I'll admit I did grow attached to the main girls, and I hope we get a proper conclusion to this story, rather than... whatever the fuck this was... |
neonmistMar 28, 2020 11:47 PM
Sondfer said: Kougeru said: I must've been distracted by the amazing animation during the part where Sayaka was holding off the giant ball of energy and her arm got destroyed, and then regenerated. Felt like all the budget went into that but the rest wasn't bad by any means There is something weird going on. There is either two versions of the episode, or some streaming sites/TV channels received screwed up version. https://mobile.twitter.com/Kaeru_mado/status/1243937376809803776 Yoooooooooooooooooo, wtf! |
qrmp00 said: This show resembles an idol show more than a magical girl show with its showcase of various different characters for you to oshi. It rides the coattails of the original Madoka series, but it cannot stand on its own merits alone and for that reason it's not a great show. That's how the source material is, a lot of characters. The problem with the non game players is that they always compare it to the original series, and hence think it cannot stand on its own. But the fact is it's based on the game, which is loved by its fans, has 100s of characters who are loved more than the original by some. Infact the protagonist of the original don't even show up in the first season. The only reason I see it not living up to the expectations of the viewers here is because of direct comparison to the original, and thus getting confused and irritated by many characters. There are many characters which make cameos throughout the series, and the fans of game share their happiness when their favorite character makes an appearance. And I believe it's not the suspense of the original series that makes it great. I spoiled myself about powers of Homura in the first few episodes of Madoka Magica, still it's my favorite because of the things I find when I rewatch the show. There's a lot of things you'll simply miss, misunderstand if you watch it only once. Same is with Magia Record. You'll notice a lot more when you rewatch it after playing the game, and that changes the perspective about the show completely. |
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Polycell said: Genoard said: Other than the tail becoming a melee weapon, I didn't notice any change. Campanella is meant to resemble a ticket punch(an oblique reference to the Sanzu River), so her arms end up having two points to them(which I suppose can look like extra legs if you're not looking closely).The decision to change Yachiyo's doppel to have her grow an extra set of arms is questionable, seriously, why? No, i'm talking about two extra arms, even though in that form she uses them as legs:  tottobennington said: Context on that "holy" trasformation please? who and how gave mami new powers? She was , whatever that means and however dumb that sounds. If i remember correctly, the exact process and how it works wasn't explained even in the game. |
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Sondfer said: Kougeru said: I must've been distracted by the amazing animation during the part where Sayaka was holding off the giant ball of energy and her arm got destroyed, and then regenerated. Felt like all the budget went into that but the rest wasn't bad by any means There is something weird going on. There is either two versions of the episode, or some streaming sites/TV channels received screwed up version. https://mobile.twitter.com/Kaeru_mado/status/1243937376809803776 The right version is from abemaTV which is a Japanese streaming website. Why they have a different cut is a mystery to me thou. It's not like it's censored or anything. It's just different |
Shaft has a habit of doing things at last moment so probably abemaTV got their episode before web streaming sites, and then Shaft sent a patched version to the streaming sites. |
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| It was a solid finale, especially since it is setting up for what might be a war for the next season. The action was amazing in spite of some of the derps in frames and the music was great; that ending theme really set it off for me. Sadly this and maybe one or two other episodes from the series were the only good ones, this being the best episode of the entire run. I feel like this show forgot that characters are important. I mean it introduced a lot of side characters that seemed like they would become important especially given how we got focus on a lot of them, but ultimately that mess was just thrown to the wind for some reason. It felt like a half-hearted production, but then again...we're getting an adaptation of a mobile game so of course a lot of context is probably gonna be missing. Overall, I feel like this was a nice distraction type series for Mahou Shoujo. It obviously cannot hold a candle to its predecessor, but for the potential it had to attack the angle of the verse using a strongly character driven narrative as opposed to themes, this came up short. The only real consolation is seeing some of the original cast make appearances or be referenced in the series. I might give season 2 a chance, but I feel like this is gonna be forgettable for me. 5/10 |
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Stannum said: Reading other's opinions and reviews... Wow, it seems like I'm only one here genuinely enjoy this series. As much as I love the OG. You're not alone, and seeing the hate I'm glad they're delaying the sequel to the original. Imagine the hate it would get for not meeting everyone's expectations. Except for the animation of last couple of episodes, I personally love the show and how it handles the story as an adaptation of the game. The major problem here is people dislike the idea of so many magical girls, which is the selling point of the game. 10/10 would watch again when Bluray comes. |
salarxMar 29, 2020 3:49 AM
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| As I thought, the ending was a definite cliffhanger for the upcoming second season that was announced not too long ago. I'm glad. =) So, what do I think of Magia Record? I still prefer the original series by some margin, but I feel Magia Record gets more hate than it deserves. Some of it are justified, while other criticisms of it are just spiteful. For me, the slow story pacing early on was one of the weaker parts of this spin-off. It had my interest all the way, but it didn't get going much until the Wings of the Magius got introduced. As for the animation, Shaft was properly inconsistent. Some episodes, early ones as well as the one where Felicia teamed up with Kyoko, had some nice animation, while other episodes had sloppy animated fights. For the most part, though, Shaft still did a great job with the visual quality and they saved their best efforts for this 13th episode with the fight against Mami and her unlimited musket works. Sayaka also joined in the fray and she was bloody epic. The way she was able to hold off Mami's Tiro Finale bullet for 17 long seconds before finally deflecting it was superbly animated. In the end, Mami was defeated, but she took Iroha down with her, leaning Sayaka to carry Yachiyo out of the crumbling building. The other girls DID escape, but they're all part of the Magius cult, whether they like it or not. Great new Ed song to end off this episode as well. =) I'll give this spin-off a 7.5/10 overall. Inconsistent animation and pacing aside, I do like most of the new cast, so I do look forward to seeing how the story continues from here in the second season. =D |
| I just finished watching the last episode. Not going to watch the 2nd season that got announced - since this first season was too weak already. But anime do advertise games often are weak because they are limited to the (at best) mediocre game-plot. The anime also had the problem with high expectations because of the great first series. Also there were some (even in this weak season) anime that were a lot better and mose mediocre/average stuff also was more fun to watch. I only watched 4 other anime: Pet (7/10 ... okayish but weird plot), Darwin's Game (7/10 ... got a bit boring near the end), Kabukichou Sherlock (8/10 overall great entertainment) and Runway (9/10 - superb stuff) ... they were all a lot stronger. Less mistakes for the 7-ish stuff so It could manage a 7. Wouldn't say I'm a hater here. Also 6.xx is a decent score on MAL for this plot. (There is far better stuff that struggles getting a 7.xx. since MAL community got more strict in the last years.) My final score is 6/10. If this were the end I'd give 5/10 only. There is hope for it to get better later to a 7 ... maybe 8 in the 2nd season. But the risk is too high. (Might waste time.) Big problem was that I did not care for the chars. (Besides the major chars I don't remember even some of the names.) Too much episodic boring stories ... because it adapts the game and the games need to have such stuff to make the game time longer (to get more people buying/paying for a longer time). Didn't really motivate to see the reveals in the last 2-3 episodes when the original series felt much faster/better paced here. --- I noticed the weakness with game adaptions for a few other games as well. Not for every game though. Granblue Fantasy had the same problem with the chars and plot. Afaik it was strictly adapting the game plot from what I have heard. Stuff like Shingeki no Bahamut and Uma Musume in contrast were really great stuff. From what I have heard though the plot was more original. While tagged as "game adaption" they used the setting and the anime directors/script writers had more freedom instead of having to adapt the "endless game plot" that stays mediocre but open ended/endless to get more people to pay and play for longer. Works fine in a game where you have the gameplay as well to keep you motivated. But not as anime. |
salarx said: Stannum said: Reading other's opinions and reviews... Wow, it seems like I'm only one here genuinely enjoy this series. As much as I love the OG. You're not alone, and seeing the hate I'm glad they're delaying the sequel to the original. Imagine the hate it would get for not meeting everyone's expectations. Except for the animation of last couple of episodes, I personally love the show and how it handles the story as an adaptation of the game. The major problem here is people dislike the idea of so many magical girls, which is the selling point of the game. 10/10 would watch again when Bluray comes. "The major problem here is people dislike the idea of so many magical girls" thats definitely not the main issue here. the main issue is that madoka is an already finished story and digging it up again is doomed to fail besides that magia record itself has innumerable issues in story and structure |
| aaaa they pulled Sayaka out of their ass and made the big climactic moment about her and Mami ;~dd I've seen people saying not to compare this to Madoka but c'mon, this show clearly doesn't want you to forget about the original. It's really just riding its fame. I guess my issue with this show is that in 13 episodes it doesn't feel as if anything was accomplished in terms of character and plot. shauntay0248 said: Well, I guess it's no surprise that not many people liked this series since the entire season was just an introduction to the world. The world didn't need 13 episodes to introduce itself, it ain't that complex. They really just wasted a ton of time with nothing and then dumped a bunch of exposition featuring emotional moments with characters we've never seen (as opposed to the original, where the same exposition is organic and engaging) and then rushed through the final episode. |
milkclub said: The world didn't need 13 episodes to introduce itself, it ain't that complex. They really just wasted a ton of time with nothing and then dumped a bunch of exposition featuring emotional moments with characters we've never seen (as opposed to the original, where the same exposition is organic and engaging) and then rushed through the final episode. Not the world but the character introduction. CuteAssTiger said: salarx said: You're not alone, and seeing the hate I'm glad they're delaying the sequel to the original. Imagine the hate it would get for not meeting everyone's expectations. Except for the animation of last couple of episodes, I personally love the show and how it handles the story as an adaptation of the game. The major problem here is people dislike the idea of so many magical girls, which is the selling point of the game. 10/10 would watch again when Bluray comes. "The major problem here is people dislike the idea of so many magical girls" thats definitely not the main issue here. the main issue is that madoka is an already finished story and digging it up again is doomed to fail besides that magia record itself has innumerable issues in story and structure Well you'll find a lot getting confused by so many characters. And it's not a sequel to the original anime so I don't know where the digging up comes from, it's not a story about Madoka or Homura either. It's an adaptation of mobile game of the same name. Also the main story isn't finished. |
salarxMar 29, 2020 6:51 AM
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Stannum said: Reading other's opinions and reviews... Wow, it seems like I'm only one here genuinely enjoy this series. As much as I love the OG. Eroha said: Stannum said: Reading other's opinions and reviews... Wow, it seems like I'm only one here genuinely enjoy this series. As much as I love the OG. It's mainly just Myanimelist that has a hate boner for this, on places like reddit most enjoyed it Personally I loved it, I love the idea of a fascist magical girl cult salarx said: Stannum said: Reading other's opinions and reviews... Wow, it seems like I'm only one here genuinely enjoy this series. As much as I love the OG. You're not alone, and seeing the hate I'm glad they're delaying the sequel to the original. Imagine the hate it would get for not meeting everyone's expectations. Except for the animation of last couple of episodes, I personally love the show and how it handles the story as an adaptation of the game. The major problem here is people dislike the idea of so many magical girls, which is the selling point of the game. 10/10 would watch again when Bluray comes. You guys are definitely not alone. I think this anime is far from a masterpiece like the original series was, but it was nevertheless better to watch Magia Record than most of the things I've been seeing lately. It was really fun and exciting while it lasted. Let's hope that those who didn't like it don't come back to see the second season and bombard it with unfair ratings. |
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Ryoketsu said: You guys are definitely not alone. I think this anime is far from a masterpiece like the original series was, but it was nevertheless better to watch Magia Record than most of the things I've been seeing lately. It was really fun and exciting while it lasted. Let's hope that those who didn't like it don't come back to see the second season and bombard it with unfair ratings. The game and anime are already successful in Japan, so no matter how this show is rated, we would have got sequel anyway. I'm sure the second arc of the game would also get an anime adaptation, and doesn't matter if the original gets a sequel or not, as long as I keep getting dose of Magia Record. |
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Eroha said: Ryoketsu said: You guys are definitely not alone. I think this anime is far from a masterpiece like the original series was, but it was nevertheless better to watch Magia Record than most of the things I've been seeing lately. It was really fun and exciting while it lasted. Let's hope that those who didn't like it don't come back to see the second season and bombard it with unfair ratings. Yeah, it isn't as good as Madoka Magica (no magical girl anime will be able to do that any time soon) but it deserves much higher than a 6.84 Stuff like this is why people don't like MyAnimeList scores Welcome to MAL, where people think hating the side story would help them to see sequel to original. Magia Record is the closest we'll ever get to newer Madoka Magica adaptation. The sequel would forever remain in the production. |
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| whoa, that was an intense battle. Watched it on my phone, with intent of going to sleep afterwards. But made me turn on the pc again to make a post here. Sayaka blocking that shot was badass. Iroha and Yachiyo holding hands while fighting, and it looks like they won? But instead of getting the hell out of there, they instead peek into the hole where Mami fell into?!! Which cause Iroha to also fall into the hole and be grabbed by crazy Mami... Tsuruno and Felicia are now brainwashed. Rena is not convinced, but she found out that it's forbidden to leave while loli-Hitler Touka is speaking! >< can't wait for season 2. I'm satisfied. Would definitely be buying some items from this show. :) |
houlouk said: And second season will not be better because IT will have better ratings so ask To people who don t like to not watch is irrevelant I'll agree the ratings are fair, the only unfair thing is other anime, much weaker than MR, have higher score due to their lower fanbase who give them higher ratings. Sadly the side story comes after 9 years so only a handful of original viewers are watching Magia Record. So comparatively it looks bad. Magia Record is that child of Shaft whose older sibling did so well that people expect same level of performance from the second child. I believe the scores would differ by huge margin if game was available internationally; that way a lot more people would have played the game and would have different perspective. |
salarxMar 29, 2020 7:44 AM
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salarx said: milkclub said: The world didn't need 13 episodes to introduce itself, it ain't that complex. They really just wasted a ton of time with nothing and then dumped a bunch of exposition featuring emotional moments with characters we've never seen (as opposed to the original, where the same exposition is organic and engaging) and then rushed through the final episode. Not the world but the character introduction. While we did get to know a ton of characters, most of them soon came and went and didn't actually contribute anything to the plot, like Sana, who had two episodes right by the end but her only contribution to the two final episodes was answering a question wrong. Don't get me started on Kaede and Momoko. It really just felt as if the writers were forcing it to get all the gacha waifus on board no matter how much it harmed the anime in general. You could argue "maybe they'll do more on the second cour" but considering how they pulled Sayaka for no reason instead of leaving the climax of the season up to the protagonists (which was sorely needed for Yachiyo to make that flashback of hers actually have any sort of emotional weight), I'm really inclined to believe this show only cares for fanservice for the people who play the game + really big fans of the original. Plus, with how many characters there are, I find it really hard to believe the second cour will be able to give most of them their time to shine. |
| Yay Miki made an appearance ( no Homura or Kaname, maybe on the ext season though) Can't believe that Tsuruno, Felicia and Futaba are brainwash though and I don't Iroha is dead though, can't wait to see the 2nd season Also Walpurgis Night huh !! Things are about to get real |
salarx said: I believe the scores would differ by huge margin if game was available internationally; that way a lot more people would have played the game and would have different perspective. Too late to say but the English server is out early at June last year, players around the globe are complaining about the rushed event(collect materials and limited gacha). Here we realize majority of the population are still unaware of the game, could not register or just not gonna try, in the first place the anime is to advertise it.. We getting season 2 could be: The rating in Japan is positive enough for a sequel. They have enough fund from the game, and EN is soon reaching arc 1 finale. |
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| Haters everywhere ... and i don't even play the game. For those that seem lost (plot wise), yeah it's confusing but there were clues everywhere to get the bigger picture. |
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| easily the best episode of the series, brings me back to the feeling of the original Madoka, animation was stilted but the atmosphere pulled the episode through. |
| The scene were sayaka's arm got destroyed was... OMG |
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milkclub said: While we did get to know a ton of characters, most of them soon came and went and didn't actually contribute anything to the plot, like Sana, who had two episodes right by the end but her only contribution to the two final episodes was answering a question wrong. Don't get me started on Kaede and Momoko. It really just felt as if the writers were forcing it to get all the gacha waifus on board no matter how much it harmed the anime in general. You could argue "maybe they'll do more on the second cour" but considering how they pulled Sayaka for no reason instead of leaving the climax of the season up to the protagonists (which was sorely needed for Yachiyo to make that flashback of hers actually have any sort of emotional weight), I'm really inclined to believe this show only cares for fanservice for the people who play the game + really big fans of the original. Plus, with how many characters there are, I find it really hard to believe the second cour will be able to give most of them their time to shine. They could have included Madoka and Homura like it's in the game, but it's only Sayaka so maybe she'll play some part. Being the protagonist doesn't mean they have to be heroes who save everyone, it's simply the story focuses on them, most of the times they turn out to be heroes. And why not have characters that are already there in story and displease the fans to please the casual viewers? The story takes time to introduce the main characters, though they don't play much part, yet. Magia Record is a bigger story so not everyone will play part now. Some think Iroha does nothing and shouldn't be the protagonist but it's eventually revealed how Iroha changed lives of girl in Kamihama, so much that it's as it is. Team Momoko are not the main characters, hence we don't get much time in the story, but why? Because they are in the story and play side roles. And yes there are going to be more characters in the second season. The level of comparison is too much here, you're probably comparing a story specfically written for 12 episodes to a much longer story, it's obvious the original had to use all the main characters in exactly those 12 episodes. |
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houlouk said: DVD sales are not bad (for what that me ans nowadays) lien And i think season 2 was decided at the beginning Seeing everything is affected by COVID-19 and it's been 9 years, I guess the numbers are promising. |
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| hmm so this goes gonna go different than the game since iroha got captured instead of regrouping with yachiyo. i played the game and i think the anime is fine considering it is a game adaptation . just personal opinion so dont mind me |
salarx said: milkclub said: While we did get to know a ton of characters, most of them soon came and went and didn't actually contribute anything to the plot, like Sana, who had two episodes right by the end but her only contribution to the two final episodes was answering a question wrong. Don't get me started on Kaede and Momoko. It really just felt as if the writers were forcing it to get all the gacha waifus on board no matter how much it harmed the anime in general. You could argue "maybe they'll do more on the second cour" but considering how they pulled Sayaka for no reason instead of leaving the climax of the season up to the protagonists (which was sorely needed for Yachiyo to make that flashback of hers actually have any sort of emotional weight), I'm really inclined to believe this show only cares for fanservice for the people who play the game + really big fans of the original. Plus, with how many characters there are, I find it really hard to believe the second cour will be able to give most of them their time to shine. They could have included Madoka and Homura like it's in the game, but it's only Sayaka so maybe she'll play some part. Being the protagonist doesn't mean they have to be heroes who save everyone, it's simply the story focuses on them, most of the times they turn out to be heroes. And why not have characters that are already there in story and displease the fans to please the casual viewers?. Consider the entire context of that final episode. Iroha and all the other girls have received an absolutely shocking revelation that should hit them all like a truck emotionally, and her and Yachiyo have reached a mutual understanding where the distant Yachiyo finally decided to open up completely by talking about her past. Don't you think that focusing the entire episode on that would be MUCH more worthwhile than pulling Sayaka out of nowhere for a big fight scene? Couldn't just Yachiyo and Iroha's doppel have a fight against Mami and leave it at that? Yachiyo and Iroha don't have to save everyone, but that was their emotional climax. It only makes sense from a narrative standpoint to focus on them. Even if Sayaka is gonna be important later on, why introduce her right then and there and undermine Yachiyo and Iroha's moment? It makes no sense. And I don't know if it's because I've been drinking, but I don't get what you meant by that last line. What would displease the fans? Magia Record is a bigger story so not everyone will play part now. Some think Iroha does nothing and shouldn't be the protagonist but it's eventually revealed how Iroha changed lives of girl in Kamihama, so much that it's as it is. Team Momoko are not the main characters, hence we don't get much time in the story, but why? Because they are in the story and play side roles. And yes there are going to be more characters in the second season. Look, I'd give you credit here if this had thirty, fourty episodes, but chances are it's gonna have 24/25. Chances are, that's not enough, especially if it's gonna keep throwing the plot to the side to tell the stories of more gacha girls that are not even gonna serve any purpose. Either way, the cast is gonna be bloated. How do the writers even pick who gets the tragic backstory episode anyway? Popularity polls? The level of comparison is too much here, you're probably comparing a story specfically written for 12 episodes to a much longer story, it's obvious the original had to use all the main characters in exactly those 12 episodes. I'm comparing it to how Madoka handled the scene of the big revelation regarding where witches come from. Madoka had a single episode that told you everything you need to know through an engaging flashback that not only served as exposition but also gave depth to its main character. Magia Record had a slideshow presentation in the mEMorY mmuseUM. |
milkclubMar 29, 2020 10:23 AM
milkclub said: And I don't know if it's because I've been drinking, but I don't get what you meant by that last line. What would displease the fans? Regarding the ton of characters that made appearance in the show but didn't contribute much, like Momoko and the girls. Even assuming they won't be playing any part, why remove them to please the casual viewers who dislike many characters, and displease the fans who want to see their favorite characters? milkclub said: I'm comparing it to how Madoka handled the scene of the big revelation regarding where witches come from. Madoka had a single episode that told you everything you need to know through an engaging flashback that not only served as exposition but also gave depth to its main character. Magia Record had a slideshow presentation in the mEMorY mmuseUM. I get it flashbacks are superior to everything else, probably that's what you're going to say. Well the memory museum explains well relationship with other girls dead, alive, and why she decided to work alone because it was her wish that makes others die in order to survive. It also servers that purpose that everyone; Iroha, Felcia, Sana, Tsuruno, everyone in the memory museum can see them. I don't think flashbacks work like that. Maybe you have some creative idea, like Yachiyo tells her backstory to everyone over a cup of tea. I think it was great to see Sayaka fighting Mami-san, the girl for whom she became a magius. Yahiyo and Iroha had their moment, so did Mami before she turned into Uwasa host. It could be done the way you described, but that's how you imagined it, doesn't make it any better. Also you're right it'd have 24/25 episodes, but that's arc 1 which is already finished and arc 2 is going on in Japan, so we'll definitely see more Magia Record even after 2nd season. So as I said, it's a bigger project, you'll get an idea when you look how much money Aniplex and Shaft is making from the game, so there is no shortage of source material for now. It's split to give more time to improve the quality since almost everyone show is getting delayed. |
salarxMar 29, 2020 10:51 AM
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salarx said: the digging up comes from being a spin of of a much better story. milkclub said: The world didn't need 13 episodes to introduce itself, it ain't that complex. They really just wasted a ton of time with nothing and then dumped a bunch of exposition featuring emotional moments with characters we've never seen (as opposed to the original, where the same exposition is organic and engaging) and then rushed through the final episode. Not the world but the character introduction. CuteAssTiger said: "The major problem here is people dislike the idea of so many magical girls" thats definitely not the main issue here. the main issue is that madoka is an already finished story and digging it up again is doomed to fail besides that magia record itself has innumerable issues in story and structure Well you'll find a lot getting confused by so many characters. And it's not a sequel to the original anime so I don't know where the digging up comes from, it's not a story about Madoka or Homura either. It's an adaptation of mobile game of the same name. Also the main story isn't finished. people will compare it. in principal an unreleated story should stand on its own some others do that pretty well . i think kazumi magica was a really nice madoka spin off but the only reason magia record is a madoka spin off is to sell madoka feelings and gatcha girls instead of telling a good madoka story |
CuteAssTigerMar 29, 2020 12:59 PM
houlouk said: CuteAssTiger said: 1. dont have innumerable amounts of side quests that dont go anywhere. 2. write your antagonistic force in a way that their goals interfere with your main characters goals in a way that presents both sides a valid and justified . this conflict is litterly just " we have a solution against withes " VS " i actually just want to find my sister" there is no reason for those 2 groups to fight each other . they just do. and iroha actually says something like that every now and then but whatever. it also would not hurt to not make such a big fuss and secret about something. just tell them about your plan rathen then fighting them all the time. but logic would get in the way of the plot 3. make a conflict that actually makes sense 4. dont have villians show up out of nowhere ( the green russian one ) that have no backstory to tell, no forshadowing, no goals of their own , just to start up beef with the main cast . just to disapear after that. even if she has all of that in season 2 it makes a really bad inclusion for s1 5. dont have trowaway characters, spend your time on those that actually matter the original madoka focuses on 5 main girls and some side characters and we get a really great story out of all of them while contributing to the actual plot. this anime has a lot of girls with their side quests that dont do anything for the plot . This is just poor writing (im assuming it is this way to get those micro transactions going ingame . gotta sell you more girls with some kind of backstory . but that doesnt make it good ) it really isnt hard to write a better story then this one . we have over 2400 years of story telling on our hands . there is so much material to learn from . and no , "write a better story yourself" is not a good argument. I am agree with your points 1 and 5 (and with your point 4 but it did not bother me) But I don't understand your points 2 and 3 For me the conflicts are not " we have a solution against withes " VS " i actually just want to find my sister" but " we have a solution against withes but to do this we have to harm people with rumors " VS "We need to stop them from harm people with those rumors but should we really do this" I think it would have been better removing momoko, rena and kaede (and so episode 2 and 3) and concentrate on the 5 main characters. Even if the number of characters is not an issue by itself (shows like Assassination classroom or my hero academia have a lot of characters and critics are not that bad) I hope that second season will be better (I think so but we'll see) but even if it is great, it will be difficult to catch people because now it is not "madoka spinoff" but "sequel of magia record" I am agree with the overall score of the show I am quite surprised how bad the score of this episode is. the problem with the conflict is that the doppel system is litteraly better in every way , ( at least regarding to the information we have ) the maguis have rumors/uwasa are the uwasa worse then the withes ? no does it make sense to try and stop a group that found something that is at least better then what we currently have with witches ? not really |
salarx said: milkclub said: And I don't know if it's because I've been drinking, but I don't get what you meant by that last line. What would displease the fans? Regarding the ton of characters that made appearance in the show but didn't contribute much, like Momoko and the girls. Even assuming they won't be playing any part, why remove them to please the casual viewers who dislike many characters, and displease the fans who want to see their favorite characters? IT is not an issue if they make quick apparitions but for kaede and momoko, they use screen time that could have been used for other thons milkclub said: I'm comparing it to how Madoka handled the scene of the big revelation regarding where witches come from. Madoka had a single episode that told you everything you need to know through an engaging flashback that not only served as exposition but also gave depth to its main character. Magia Record had a slideshow presentation in the mEMorY mmuseUM. I get it flashbacks are superior to everything else, probably that's what you're going to say. Well the memory museum explains well relationship with other girls dead, alive, and why she decided to work alone because it was her wish that makes others die in order to survive. It also servers that purpose that everyone; Iroha, Felcia, Sana, Tsuruno, everyone in the memory museum can see them. I don't think flashbacks work like that. Maybe you have some creative idea, like Yachiyo tells her backstory to everyone over a cup of tea. I think it was great to see Sayaka fighting Mami-san, the girl for whom she became a magius. Yahiyo and Iroha had their moment, so did Mami before she turned into Uwasa host. It could be done the way you described, but that's how you imagined it, doesn't make it any better. I'll go with bullet points. 1- Yes, flashbacks for exposition are almost always better, but flashbacks that have emotional weight, so the one shown doesn't compare to Madoka's because the one in Madoka allows us to care for Homura. The one in this show feels cheap. So should it be over Yachiyo drinking a cup of tea? No idea! I'm not a writer and I don't wanna be, (and to be as clichéd as Felicia) I don't need to be a chef to know the food tastes like shit, and I don't need to come up with a better idea to criticize a show. And neither do you, which is great, because I don't think you come up with something better every time you make a criticism either. Or maybe you do? Send me your writing portfolio. 2- No, the Memory Museum serves no special purpose. People can tell each other stories, they don't need some absolutely dumb plot device to get them to see another girl's memories to get information. And you see, I'm calling it dumb because I can already smell the plotholes it's gonna create later on. It's just too much of a strong tool. But maybe the writing on the second cour is gonna be great and no plothole is gonna happen. Dunno. I wouldn't actually oppose a better-written show. 3- I'm happy you like Sayaka. Doesn't excuse the fact that the show threw Yachiyo and Iroha's emotional climax under the bus so we could get cheap fanservice. Also you're right it'd have 24/25 episodes, but that's arc 1 which is already finished and arc 2 is going on in Japan, so we'll definitely see more Magia Record even after 2nd season. So as I said, it's a bigger project, you'll get an idea when you look how much money Aniplex and Shaft is making from the game, so there is no shortage of source material for now. It's split to give more time to improve the quality since almost everyone show is getting delayed. Sure hope that's true. Guess this is just gonna be another series that's known for having a bad start, like Gintama? You'll see how that goes. I won't because this thing bored me and I'm not seeing the next season. |
| The best part its Japan dont give a f*ck about MAL, abd or other western sites, they will keep milking the cow and for me isnt a problem, Kids, Magia Record has the same of love from his fans than the OG series, so you can hate with all your soul but at the end of the day we will get the 2nd Season, gonna watch our beloved Megukas kicking some butts and cry the last episode like when played the last Mission in the Game, im glad Aniplex ,Shaft and all the animators and staff who made anime a dream come true for Magia Record players and for all those who didnt play but enjoyned without expecting Madoka Reloaded or Rebellion sequel (i mean who the f*ck didnt read its a spin off lmao, go cry in your bed for 5 more years waiting for urobutcher to not come and finish OG series)... |
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