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Oct 23, 2018 5:45 AM
#101
It's hard for me to be offended by anything nowadays, let alone anime. |
"No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
Oct 23, 2018 10:31 AM
#102
Ryu1908 said: This is why hype, of all kinds, is untrustworthy.Goblin Slayer is far more harmless than I thought it was going to be after the first episode, to be honest. |
Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
Oct 24, 2018 4:47 AM
#103
I like when an anime doesn't pull any punches. If you get offended by a fictional show then that's on you. Don't ruin the experience for others. Anime reviews are filled with pseudo intellectuals that think there opinions means something. |
Oct 24, 2018 5:04 AM
#104
The only things that offend me are certain people. Some anime may be weird and not suit my taste but it never "offends" me. |
Oct 24, 2018 8:40 AM
#105
If you didn't feel offended by it, you wouldn't know that you don't agree with it, its like learning a lesson from something, you learn about something you don't like and then you think on your next move on what to do about it and how to proceed with it, its something like that more or less. |
Oct 24, 2018 9:04 AM
#106
Not really but i am offended that you spell "offended'' and ''forget'' like that. |
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Oct 24, 2018 9:12 AM
#107
how does one even get offended by fiction? I mean there is bunch of shit I hate in real life. Few of them I hate in fiction as well, but it rather just makes me angry, depressed, sad or frustrated. Depending on scene/character/anime or what so ever. But that is simply emotion range whilst consuming any sort of information that comes to brain. Have actually "felt offended?", No. That sounds just stupid... I mean it's like imagine being a large guy and someone in the anime says "hey fatty" and then suddenly feel offended in real life? That is just stupid. (a bit lame example, but point remains.) |
Oct 24, 2018 11:09 AM
#108
ToTheSky said: I found the scene pretty horrific and graphic,was a total turn off. If the first episode sets the tone,then I don't see much substance other then female rape fodder and let's be AoT D&D style. You have to build up and earn that carnage, not dump it on the viewer in the first episode just to show how "dark" the show is. Cheapest thrills at the expanse of horrific acts, that's just lazy and tasteless. I've seen Berserk TV and the OVAs, their use of rape wasn't used just to drive the tone of the series,it has profound affects on the characters, same goes for GoT. Was a pretty dumb idea to release the first episode with such distaste for mature writing, so I can understand the backlash. Not a great way to grab new viewers. Despite my dislike of something, I'll never tell anyone what they should watch, nor do I listen to those telling me. Though I do find the lack of decency when discussing such topics disconcering, seeing rape treated as shade fodder "grow up" or just plain crude "I have the weirdest boner"... instead of disturbing nature of the act and the reality of trauma towards its victim. It's like being an empty shell is somehow a form of pride now, which I don't understand. I'm sure some people will disagree and think I'm being too sensitive but it's not like I can't flip it and say you're just sociopathic. I won't stop you though. =) You are definitely being too sensitive. It's ok for episode 1 of Attack on Titan to show people being ripped apart and eaten alive but Goblin Slayer's five second rape scene is TOTALLY NOT OK? Why? |
Oct 24, 2018 12:19 PM
#109
epidemia78 said: ToTheSky said: I found the scene pretty horrific and graphic,was a total turn off. If the first episode sets the tone,then I don't see much substance other then female rape fodder and let's be AoT D&D style. You have to build up and earn that carnage, not dump it on the viewer in the first episode just to show how "dark" the show is. Cheapest thrills at the expanse of horrific acts, that's just lazy and tasteless. I've seen Berserk TV and the OVAs, their use of rape wasn't used just to drive the tone of the series,it has profound affects on the characters, same goes for GoT. Was a pretty dumb idea to release the first episode with such distaste for mature writing, so I can understand the backlash. Not a great way to grab new viewers. Despite my dislike of something, I'll never tell anyone what they should watch, nor do I listen to those telling me. Though I do find the lack of decency when discussing such topics disconcering, seeing rape treated as shade fodder "grow up" or just plain crude "I have the weirdest boner"... instead of disturbing nature of the act and the reality of trauma towards its victim. It's like being an empty shell is somehow a form of pride now, which I don't understand. I'm sure some people will disagree and think I'm being too sensitive but it's not like I can't flip it and say you're just sociopathic. I won't stop you though. =) You are definitely being too sensitive. It's ok for episode 1 of Attack on Titan to show people being ripped apart and eaten alive but Goblin Slayer's five second rape scene is TOTALLY NOT OK? Why? It's called hypocrisy. Question answered. |
The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
Oct 24, 2018 12:22 PM
#110
GlennMagusHarvey said: CherryLover said: Yeah, it just sorta makes him sound silly.AstZero said: GlennMagusHarvey said: TenjouinGX said: Probably the same reason people who like dark edgy psychological drama thrillers go to watch slice-of-life and moë and complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their sensibilities.Like people who are really into slice of life and moe go and watch stuff out of their preferences like Berserk or Goblin Slayer just so they could complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their morally right compass? i.e. pick one or more: * boredom * the need for procrastination * the feeling of the need to watch everything, particularly stuff other people are talking about AstZero said: Trolling this board is an unpaid hobby for her, just like it is for everyone else. :)Woah! It's really a wonder feminist-chan hasn't reacted to this thread already. Took a while but feminist-chan finally joined the discussion. Calling me "feminist-chan" does not make you funny, mind you. But meanwhile, I wonder what silly nickname I'd get. I'm glad you got the memo from my one-liner lol. Otherwise i'd have to explain that i'm not even trying to be serious. Oh wait... Anyways if I was I wouldn't be mentioning a shitty troll in my posts. |
The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
Oct 24, 2018 1:17 PM
#111
AstZero said: Oh, sorry for not replying to your prior reply to me.GlennMagusHarvey said: CherryLover said: AstZero said: GlennMagusHarvey said: TenjouinGX said: Probably the same reason people who like dark edgy psychological drama thrillers go to watch slice-of-life and moë and complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their sensibilities.Like people who are really into slice of life and moe go and watch stuff out of their preferences like Berserk or Goblin Slayer just so they could complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their morally right compass? i.e. pick one or more: * boredom * the need for procrastination * the feeling of the need to watch everything, particularly stuff other people are talking about AstZero said: Trolling this board is an unpaid hobby for her, just like it is for everyone else. :)Woah! It's really a wonder feminist-chan hasn't reacted to this thread already. Took a while but feminist-chan finally joined the discussion. Calling me "feminist-chan" does not make you funny, mind you. But meanwhile, I wonder what silly nickname I'd get. I'm glad you got the memo from my one-liner lol. Otherwise i'd have to explain that i'm not even trying to be serious. Oh wait... Anyways if I was I wouldn't be mentioning a shitty troll in my posts. I guess "serious-kun" could work though I think I'm probably more just "deadpan" about taking everything at face value (even if I darn well know something is shitposting) than actually "serious". |
Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
Oct 24, 2018 1:27 PM
#112
Getting offended by a show is fine. But even if you don't like it someone else might so screaming that it shouldn't exist just makes you an SJW waste of space if for "moral" reasons and an irritating elitist if not. Is what I thought before.. Now I realize that it's ok to be offended and wish something out of existence if it insults the source material or viewer. Or both. Looking at you Tokyo ghoul re. |
Oct 24, 2018 2:19 PM
#113
GlennMagusHarvey said: AstZero said: Oh, sorry for not replying to your prior reply to me.GlennMagusHarvey said: CherryLover said: Yeah, it just sorta makes him sound silly.AstZero said: GlennMagusHarvey said: TenjouinGX said: Probably the same reason people who like dark edgy psychological drama thrillers go to watch slice-of-life and moë and complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their sensibilities.Like people who are really into slice of life and moe go and watch stuff out of their preferences like Berserk or Goblin Slayer just so they could complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their morally right compass? i.e. pick one or more: * boredom * the need for procrastination * the feeling of the need to watch everything, particularly stuff other people are talking about AstZero said: Trolling this board is an unpaid hobby for her, just like it is for everyone else. :)Woah! It's really a wonder feminist-chan hasn't reacted to this thread already. Took a while but feminist-chan finally joined the discussion. Calling me "feminist-chan" does not make you funny, mind you. But meanwhile, I wonder what silly nickname I'd get. I'm glad you got the memo from my one-liner lol. Otherwise i'd have to explain that i'm not even trying to be serious. Oh wait... Anyways if I was I wouldn't be mentioning a shitty troll in my posts. I guess "serious-kun" could work though I think I'm probably more just "deadpan" about taking everything at face value (even if I darn well know something is shitposting) than actually "serious". Bad habit, I mean especially on MAL. |
The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
Oct 24, 2018 3:17 PM
#114
AstZero said: Ehh, I'm not afraid to tell a ridiculous idea that it's ridiculous. Sometimes people like to test the limits of shitposting, so yeah.GlennMagusHarvey said: AstZero said: GlennMagusHarvey said: CherryLover said: Yeah, it just sorta makes him sound silly.AstZero said: GlennMagusHarvey said: TenjouinGX said: Probably the same reason people who like dark edgy psychological drama thrillers go to watch slice-of-life and moë and complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their sensibilities.Like people who are really into slice of life and moe go and watch stuff out of their preferences like Berserk or Goblin Slayer just so they could complain and belittle the show cause it doesn't fit in their morally right compass? i.e. pick one or more: * boredom * the need for procrastination * the feeling of the need to watch everything, particularly stuff other people are talking about AstZero said: Trolling this board is an unpaid hobby for her, just like it is for everyone else. :)Woah! It's really a wonder feminist-chan hasn't reacted to this thread already. Took a while but feminist-chan finally joined the discussion. Calling me "feminist-chan" does not make you funny, mind you. But meanwhile, I wonder what silly nickname I'd get. I'm glad you got the memo from my one-liner lol. Otherwise i'd have to explain that i'm not even trying to be serious. Oh wait... Anyways if I was I wouldn't be mentioning a shitty troll in my posts. I guess "serious-kun" could work though I think I'm probably more just "deadpan" about taking everything at face value (even if I darn well know something is shitposting) than actually "serious". Bad habit, I mean especially on MAL. |
Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
Oct 25, 2018 3:35 AM
#115
Nope, because I would just forget an anime that I didn't enjoy anyway |
Oct 25, 2018 6:30 AM
#116
Sadly yes I do. It depend on how unsatisfied the anime is or the trope anime use since it usually hard for me to hate a anime but easy for me to get offended. |
Oct 25, 2018 8:44 AM
#117
epidemia78 said: himToTheSky said: I found the scene pretty horrific and graphic,was a total turn off. If the first episode sets the tone,then I don't see much substance other then female rape fodder and let's be AoT D&D style. You have to build up and earn that carnage, not dump it on the viewer in the first episode just to show how "dark" the show is. Cheapest thrills at the expanse of horrific acts, that's just lazy and tasteless. I've seen Berserk TV and the OVAs, their use of rape wasn't used just to drive the tone of the series,it has profound affects on the characters, same goes for GoT. Was a pretty dumb idea to release the first episode with such distaste for mature writing, so I can understand the backlash. Not a great way to grab new viewers. Despite my dislike of something, I'll never tell anyone what they should watch, nor do I listen to those telling me. Though I do find the lack of decency when discussing such topics disconcering, seeing rape treated as shade fodder "grow up" or just plain crude "I have the weirdest boner"... instead of disturbing nature of the act and the reality of trauma towards its victim. It's like being an empty shell is somehow a form of pride now, which I don't understand. I'm sure some people will disagree and think I'm being too sensitive but it's not like I can't flip it and say you're just sociopathic. I won't stop you though. =) You are definitely being too sensitive. It's ok for episode 1 of Attack on Titan to show people being ripped apart and eaten alive but Goblin Slayer's five second rape scene is TOTALLY NOT OK? Why? Because the more then 5 second rape scene, turned rape into a tool of cheap thrill and showed no respect for it's true horror. Rape is such an unnatural disturbing element not be glorified by a perverse community who doesn't even deny they masturbate to rape hentai. So yeah, that's part of why Its not ok..TO ME. I feel like trash watching it..sorry. About violence.. it's a natural thing. There's varying degrees of it and yes, it can be too graphic at times, so it's up to the viewers. I don't know why you want rape to be as common place tho. There's other tools to show a harsh reality without praying on sexual proclivities. None of this matters anyway, cause in a week or two no one will care. Unless people find something else distastful. Wish I prolly won't hear about cause it's off my radar now. |
Oct 25, 2018 8:52 AM
#118
Oct 25, 2018 9:06 AM
#119
Admittedly, I haven't watched Goblin Slayer, but I still need to know. Is there something specific about rape that makes it unsuitable to be represented in art? I get that it makes some people uncomfortable. I'm sure mutilation and other delicate material might make it hard to watch, for some. But that's on them. I even heard that Crunchyroll threw a big warning sign right at the start of the episode, to be 100% sure that impressionable people wouldn't get caught by surprise. So what, exactly, is the problem here? As for your specific topic... no. Nothing is immune from criticism, and if people want to step out of their comfort zones, but end up not liking it, they are free to voice their opinions. That said, when that opinion can't go beyond "it has rape", it's pretty much the equivalent of a steaming pile of mountain goat diarrhea. |
Oct 25, 2018 9:36 AM
#120
ToTheSky said: Because the more then 5 second rape scene, turned rape into a tool of cheap thrill and showed no respect for it's true horror. Rape is such an unnatural disturbing element not be glorified by a perverse community who doesn't even deny they masturbate to rape hentai. So yeah, that's part of why Its not ok..TO ME. I feel like trash watching it..sorry. About violence.. it's a natural thing. There's varying degrees of it and yes, it can be too graphic at times, so it's up to the viewers. I don't know why you want rape to be as common place tho. There's other tools to show a harsh reality without praying on sexual proclivities. None of this matters anyway, cause in a week or two no one will care. Unless people find something else distastful. Wish I prolly won't hear about cause it's off my radar now. Ok let me get this straight. "Violence is natural" but "Rape is unnatural". Really? What? You know that second statement is untrue..dont you? When I mentioned the violence in Attack on Titan's first episode it's not simply "punching the bad guys" violence, it's "innocent people being eaten alive" violence. It's ok for AoT to depict what the Titans do and give the viewer a reason to hate them but it's not ok for Goblin Slayer to show what it's monsters do and why we should hate them? Rape in GS wasn't used for a cheap thrill. It was used to set the stakes and appeal to the natural protective impulses of it's target audience: men. And we will keep watching week after week to see the hero protect precious little Priestess Girl and Elf Archer and all of the cute anime girls in the Goblin Slayer world from those disgusting monsters. |
Oct 25, 2018 9:55 AM
#121
Rape in Goblin Slayer isn't art, it's exploitation, just like it's gore. |
Oct 25, 2018 2:08 PM
#122
Manolas said: It's getting annoying how people decide to rant about how Goblin Slayer is rape porn. Ffs, it isn't kiddy shows. You find it in Berserk too, why I wonder, maybe cause both shows are dark and rated 17+ possibly? Common sense is needed. I'd say that people are lacking in any sense at all. Page 94 of the Asian Horror Encyclopedia talks about goblins in Japanese folklore as being known for "theft, raping women, and eating human livers." Wouldn't a show about goblins contain some of these elements? |
Oct 26, 2018 1:59 PM
#123
frodak17 said: Manolas said: It's getting annoying how people decide to rant about how Goblin Slayer is rape porn. Ffs, it isn't kiddy shows. You find it in Berserk too, why I wonder, maybe cause both shows are dark and rated 17+ possibly? Common sense is needed. I'd say that people are lacking in any sense at all. Page 94 of the Asian Horror Encyclopedia talks about goblins in Japanese folklore as being known for "theft, raping women, and eating human livers." Wouldn't a show about goblins contain some of these elements? Goblins are part of European folklore, and Goblin Slayer is a story inspired by western fantasy tropes so most likely they're suppose to be similar to those. It either was creature that's name was translated as goblin or it was similar enough to European goblin mythology, like vampires exist in many cultures but have different names. Also kappas are known for raping women and eating humans but you rarely see that in anime. |
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