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Dec 14, 2017 6:26 AM

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Alarice said:


7 is good right ? is it low ? sorry im new in this forum idk. i just read the description 7 stand for good and 8 is very good. i think it's not masterpiece or great either but definitely very good and worth watching
People has different usage of the rating system. 7 is a must watch in my case, then people there are people who thinks 7 is an okay show. This is one problem with me (and friends) and other MAL users



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Dec 14, 2017 8:41 AM

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Deal with it.

Most people here on mal as well as on other anime sites are retarded. They will go like a sheep after Digibro or whoever is bashing whatever. (Just in case some fanboys didn't understand. Digibro is just one example from many, don't take that to your heart)

Honestly, the more people watched it the more flaws will be found. Some of them may be plain stupid, but hey, what is brain for?

Use your own brain and don't give a f*&@ about what others say. It's better that way.
Dec 14, 2017 9:12 AM

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Irisumi said:
I didn't watch the other two, but I truly do dislike Sword Art Online.

Key word is dislike. I started to dislike it before it was cool to hate it.

I was disappointed by how it turned out. There were too many time-skips. It had potential.

The second thing I don't like about it is the incest. Idc if they're cousins. They grew up as siblings. Even if they grew up as cousins I would still not like it. Cousins being in love is incest, and it is gross.


I still like SAO for some reason although I really agree with the time skips and Suguha's romantic feelings towards Kazuto. But at the same time I kind of understand why it turned out that way for her: she is in a tender age, found out that her brother in reality is her cousin and she was afraid she was going to lose him because of SAO.

I think she was more like confusing the way she cared about Kazuto because there was a huge constant threat she would at some point lose him forever (which is only naturals because they had no frickin' idea what was happening in the game). They were close as siblings before SAO (or that's how I've understood the thing while watching SAO's seasons and extras so can't base it on anything that is actually written like LN). And before this I never thought I'd analyzed their relationship in any way lol.
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Dec 14, 2017 10:31 AM

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Simply because it's from another culture. if it was an American show no one would hate it.
Dec 14, 2017 10:51 AM

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maybe they hated the fanbase, cause its too cancerous

Dec 14, 2017 1:41 PM

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SAO is a piece of crap. Good premise, terrible execution, just your usual. Don't protect that trainwreck.
Dec 14, 2017 1:42 PM

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Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe your "haters of popular anime" don't really hate mainstream anime, but simply they don't find those anime any good?!? most people don't just hate on something just because, there's always a reason no matter what.
Dec 14, 2017 1:44 PM
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The other side of the fandom of the certain series makes the series look bad.
Dec 14, 2017 1:56 PM

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@Alarice but you rated clannad so low and dropped it tho, kinda ironic for me since it's also a very popular anime for its genre..
Dec 14, 2017 2:13 PM
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NickRyuzaki said:
You dropped fullmetal there is nothing to say


You've watched 600 anime and rated them an average of 3.71. You watch stuff you hate and have only dropped 10 ever. I think if you can watch 300+ anime and give them below a four, he can drop one show.



Anyways, most popular anime is pretty good in my opinion and they are popular because they are good. Very few super popular ones I have hated but I do realize for the ones I have hated I am not their target viewer. (I dropped SAO mid-season 1 and One Punch almost immediately)
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Stein's Gate is the worst anime of all time.
Dec 14, 2017 2:34 PM

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Yo I think you just answered the question with your question. I personally think everyone has a little bit of elitism in them. I'm sure at least one reason they are disliked is because otakus see some of these anime, and say they are for the "plebs"
Dec 14, 2017 2:55 PM

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Alarice said:


what i think rn is :
1. Popular anime always hated
2. The one who hate it is elitist ( 50% ) , or just really hate it ( 50% )
3. It's just that some people like watching intellectually stimulating anime but they want to show it off so they hate on shows to show people how mainstream anime isn't up to their mark
4. they have low self esteem.|

am i wrong ? do you guys have another explanation ?


1. All of these anime rank high on popularity and rating. So, I don't know why you complain.
2. Elitist in anime... what is that exactly? Just someone who watches a lot of anime right? Shouldn't they be considered just "someone who has seen a lot more anime and may be more likely to be annoyed by tropes than someone with less anime?" I mean. Just seems logical to me as someone who either felt meh or genuinely disliked all those anime and does get called an elitist a lot even though I feel like I am not because I like Keijo and Yuri on Ice. but... I just have different taste man. No need to name call. So what if my favorite anime is Evangelion. Quit falling for the memes.
3. No idea what this is supposed to mean. I mean to be fair, it does take a high intellect to understand Keijo. ;)
4. All anime fans have low self esteem. They do watch cartoons passed the age of 10. Prob don't have many friends. And if they do, they prob run around dressed as a cartoon character and think 2D is hotter than 3D. Speaking from experience.
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Dec 14, 2017 4:29 PM

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Watching football as main source of entertainment, listening to Despacito on repeat, wasting your money on tickets for random superhero movies..

Just staring at any sort of highly popular tendencies in other fields of entertainment tells you enough, and anime is not an exception.

what i think rn is :
1. Popular anime always hated
2. The one who hate it is elitist ( 50% ) , or just really hate it ( 50% )
3. It's just that some people like watching intellectually stimulating anime but they want to show it off so they hate on shows to show people how mainstream anime isn't up to their mark
4. they have low self esteem.|
1. It's not always hated, if it is popular it means it has lots of fans, so you're only opting to focus your attention on the negative reception.
2. Even the dude who qualifies as an elitist by your definition truly hates it, so I don't see the point in these percentages. Nobody is binge-watching something as a fan and then pretending it's crap, makes no sense.
3. Again, a matter of preferences as you point out.
4. The more someone is able to form their own opinion, the less it would seem as they lack self-esteem or anything of the sort.

Also defending "popular anime" in this fashion demonstrates you're definitely new to the medium. It's normal that the first few titles you watch belong to the highly popular group, and it's also common that you like them more than most people you find around in discussion forums. But well, it all depends on what are your interests. If blindly defending the few titles you've seen, or opening your mind to new possibilities.
Dec 14, 2017 6:20 PM
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Alarice said:

1. Sword art online (8/10 4 me ) ; sure sure , this is the most hated anime in the community i think. sure there are many " boy " watch it and overrated it. but that not a reason to hate this anime. just watch it as a normal anime. be honest this anime is pretty good if compared with other anime out there. i give u 3 example

2. Attack on titan ( 7/10 4 me ) ; yo dude, another mainstream anime that received huge hate. idk why so. its pretty good , the character, the plot.


You rated SAO higher than AoT,...I already can't take what you say seriously...

Imo everything is either overrated or underrated,...but that's just because none of the ratings match up with my ratings. Also I don't know anyone who dislikes a series just because its popular, but I think it's accurate to say that most popular series are overrated.

Think about it,...noobs think every anime they watch is the best anime, until they get a little more experience and notice overused cliches ect...so I'd say that popular series like AoT are more likely to have a lot of newer anime fans that dish out 10's to everything.

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Maybe it just happen that they don't think it's good ...



nah

pretty sure its because they are stupid elitist haters who hate everything popular
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Dec 14, 2017 6:52 PM

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The problem is not being popular, is that popular animes are usually poorly written.

These animes you mentioned, all are a good example of this.
Sword art Online - Badly written characters, forced romance and various plot holes
Tokyo Ghoul - Excessive violence, plot holes, poorly written characters, history without direction

I'm not elitist, but I don't like watching any crap


lot of your favorite is popular, thus lot of your favorite is poorly writen?


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I generally don't favor popular anime, because they follow certain formulas I've grown out of. They tend to:

A) Be shounen action (My Hero Academia)
B) Try too hard to be dark (Tokyo Ghoul) resulting in a dull anime with dull characters that are never happy (Vinland Saga and Berserk are more f*cked up than popular anime ever will be, yet they manage to not be edgy)
C) Be romances/romcoms I don't care for or am not interested in (Ouran Highschool Host Club)


ahhh uhh... but vindland saga and berserk is popular, sure not TG lvl, but they are still popular...

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Watching football as main source of entertainment, listening to Despacito on repeat, wasting your money on tickets for random superhero movies..

Just staring at any sort of highly popular tendencies in other fields of entertainment tells you enough, and anime is not an exception.

what i think rn is :
1. Popular anime always hated
2. The one who hate it is elitist ( 50% ) , or just really hate it ( 50% )
3. It's just that some people like watching intellectually stimulating anime but they want to show it off so they hate on shows to show people how mainstream anime isn't up to their mark
4. they have low self esteem.|
1. It's not always hated, if it is popular it means it has lots of fans, so you're only opting to focus your attention on the negative reception.
2. Even the dude who qualifies as an elitist by your definition truly hates it, so I don't see the point in these percentages. Nobody is binge-watching something as a fan and then pretending it's crap, makes no sense.
3. Again, a matter of preferences as you point out.
4. The more someone is able to form their own opinion, the less it would seem as they lack self-esteem or anything of the sort.

Also defending "popular anime" in this fashion demonstrates you're definitely new to the medium. It's normal that the first few titles you watch belong to the highly popular group, and it's also common that you like them more than most people you find around in discussion forums. But well, it all depends on what are your interests. If blindly defending the few titles you've seen, or opening your mind to new possibilities.


i don't see any different between people who starting watch anime because ghibli movies, or SAO, or toonami, or even rondom obsecure hentai VHS...
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Kuma said:
Zardyllas said:
The problem is not being popular, is that popular animes are usually poorly written.

These animes you mentioned, all are a good example of this.
Sword art Online - Badly written characters, forced romance and various plot holes
Tokyo Ghoul - Excessive violence, plot holes, poorly written characters, history without direction

I'm not elitist, but I don't like watching any crap


lot of your favorite is popular, thus lot of your favorite is poorly writen?


TheHopefulOtaku said:
I generally don't favor popular anime, because they follow certain formulas I've grown out of. They tend to:

A) Be shounen action (My Hero Academia)
B) Try too hard to be dark (Tokyo Ghoul) resulting in a dull anime with dull characters that are never happy (Vinland Saga and Berserk are more f*cked up than popular anime ever will be, yet they manage to not be edgy)
C) Be romances/romcoms I don't care for or am not interested in (Ouran Highschool Host Club)


ahhh uhh... but vindland saga and berserk is popular, sure not TG lvl, but they are still popular...


I said, "tend" to.
Vinland Saga and Berserk are extremely critically acclaimed, and Berserk is really well known, but I wouldn't quite call them, "popular", especially Vinland.
I don't think as many people love Berserk and Vinland as much as, say, Steins; Gate, one of the lesser-popular-but-still-popular anime series.
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TheHopefulOtaku said:
Kuma said:


lot of your favorite is popular, thus lot of your favorite is poorly writen?




ahhh uhh... but vindland saga and berserk is popular, sure not TG lvl, but they are still popular...


I said, "tend" to.
Vinland Saga and Berserk are extremely critically acclaimed, and Berserk is really well known, but I wouldn't quite call them, "popular", especially Vinland.
I don't think as many people love Berserk and Vinland as much as, say, Steins; Gate, one of the lesser-popular-but-still-popular anime series.


Take a gander at manga popularity sometime....I donno... maybe you wont feel so alone. Berserk is #1 rated and #8 popular. Sorry, that is not underated at all. Before I got back to reading manga, Vinland is one of the most sited manga by like every critic ever, and on this site, it is in the thirties in rating. So, it is pretty well loved in a manga space where manga are rated pretty high already. It's popularity sit's at #65. When you consider that there are 2k adventure manga and 6k action manga. I mean top 100 of all manga? wow.

When you consider that I am impressed my Neon Genesis Evangelion's manga rankings:

Popularity: #103 and Ranked: #104

Yeah, your manga are more popular than Neon Genesis Evangelion. You have no ability to complain. The Evangelion manga has also gotten significant praise as well.

As long as I have been on this website, Berserk has been in the top 5 manga spots. Oyasumi Punpun has spent a significant time also int the top 5 as well as Fullmetal Alchemist.
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Maybe they are trying to show how unique their opinions are or that their opinions are not affected by other people.
Dec 14, 2017 8:48 PM

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TheHopefulOtaku said:
Kuma said:


lot of your favorite is popular, thus lot of your favorite is poorly writen?




ahhh uhh... but vindland saga and berserk is popular, sure not TG lvl, but they are still popular...


I said, "tend" to.
Vinland Saga and Berserk are extremely critically acclaimed, and Berserk is really well known, but I wouldn't quite call them, "popular", especially Vinland.
I don't think as many people love Berserk and Vinland as much as, say, Steins; Gate, one of the lesser-popular-but-still-popular anime series.


but vindland saga and berserk sell much more than your example like ouran... vindland saga was around 200K on it's peak while berserk was even ever breaking 500K...
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Alarice said:
Honestly i dont know why people hate some mainstream anime. all in my head is they try to be cool for not watching mainstream anime aka Edgy. theres nothing wrong in watching mainstream anime. here what anime i think people try to avoid just for make they look " high anime taste "

Yeah, you answered your question, it's all in your head. You're conjecturing what fake people must think based on numerical ratings, here.

Ask people who don't like it why they don't like, you're not guaranteed constructive answers, but it'd be a start.

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I said, "tend" to.
Vinland Saga and Berserk are extremely critically acclaimed, and Berserk is really well known, but I wouldn't quite call them, "popular",

Berserk was on a New York's Time best seller at one point.

Besides, the point here isn't even being popular in general, it's being popular *relative* to other series. Being popular *in the anime/manga community*, not worldwide ala Naruto.
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TheHopefulOtaku said:
Kuma said:


lot of your favorite is popular, thus lot of your favorite is poorly writen?




ahhh uhh... but vindland saga and berserk is popular, sure not TG lvl, but they are still popular...


I said, "tend" to.
Vinland Saga and Berserk are extremely critically acclaimed, and Berserk is really well known, but I wouldn't quite call them, "popular", especially Vinland.
I don't think as many people love Berserk and Vinland as much as, say, Steins; Gate, one of the lesser-popular-but-still-popular anime series.


using yt as my example

made in feb 2016, one of the most popular anime in recent times

still lesser view than berserk which came ltr,

it is super popular in the anime/manga community,
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1. SAO has especially horrible writing. The beginning was dark being trapped dying in game means dying in real life. Then Kirito became OP there wasn't even any sense of danger anymore.

2. What happened to Klein's development he was just introduced for nothing LMAO.

3. So the final boss bad guy lost in the middle of the fight because he apparently "Forgot his ambitions" HAHAHA

And many more.... Especially the second half with Suguha the incest loving sister and Asuna somehow playing as a sex slave elf character while she is having coma at the hospital...
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Some shows obviously deserve the criticism they get. Generally speaking; people don't think they deserve the acclaim the show has. Or they're mad that their favorite show doesn't get as much recognition, so they have to break down others to feel better.

That being said, it's the internet. Most people are sheep and follow popular opinion. Usually, popular things are hated on because it's perceived as cool to do so. Or it's a dick-measuring contest taking part in salt-filled arguments. Usually one of those.
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anyone is capable of hating anything. Inevitably, there will be people who hate popular anime. Some people will hate those shows BECAUSE they're popular, whereas others may have legitimate criticisms of a popular show.

For example, I think FLCL is overrated, overhyped, all-show no-substance nonsense. People unwittingly get an inflated, exaggerated sense of its "depth", and that fandom's groupthink belief in its supposed goodness only serves to fuel my distaste even more.
There is absolutely no reason why I should accept "turn your brain off" as a valid excuse to defend a poor show.

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Because it makes them feel good that they're being contrarian when in fact they come out as dumb as rock for criticizing something because it's popular.
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Because it makes them feel good that they're being contrarian when in fact they come out as dumb as rock for criticizing something because it's popular.
If this was really true I would hate more things to feel extra-good. But sadly this isn't the case
There is absolutely no reason why I should accept "turn your brain off" as a valid excuse to defend a poor show.

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Well I dislike them because I find most action anime to be quite boring.
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Dec 15, 2017 12:23 AM

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NickRyuzaki said:
You dropped fullmetal there is nothing to say


You've watched 600 anime and rated them an average of 3.71. You watch stuff you hate and have only dropped 10 ever. I think if you can watch 300+ anime and give them below a four, he can drop one show.



Anyways, most popular anime is pretty good in my opinion and they are popular because they are good. Very few super popular ones I have hated but I do realize for the ones I have hated I am not their target viewer. (I dropped SAO mid-season 1 and One Punch almost immediately)

One simple does not drop fullmetal , nah most of the popular shows suck , fma is one of those rare anime that both Elitists and Tards can agree is good
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NickRyuzaki said:
-----noname----- said:


You've watched 600 anime and rated them an average of 3.71. You watch stuff you hate and have only dropped 10 ever. I think if you can watch 300+ anime and give them below a four, he can drop one show.



Anyways, most popular anime is pretty good in my opinion and they are popular because they are good. Very few super popular ones I have hated but I do realize for the ones I have hated I am not their target viewer. (I dropped SAO mid-season 1 and One Punch almost immediately)

One simple does not drop fullmetal , nah most of the popular shows suck , fma is one of those rare anime that both Elitists and Tards can agree is good


then most of your favorite shows suck too? since most of your favorite is popular?
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Kuma said:
NickRyuzaki said:

One simple does not drop fullmetal , nah most of the popular shows suck , fma is one of those rare anime that both Elitists and Tards can agree is good


then most of your favorite shows suck too? since most of your favorite is popular?


lol they are not even popular , except shigatsu i really like classical music and slice of life genre in general..
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NickRyuzaki said:
Kuma said:


then most of your favorite shows suck too? since most of your favorite is popular?


lol they are not even popular , except shigatsu i really like classical music and slice of life genre in general..


are you ignorance or what? serious question...
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Kuma said:
NickRyuzaki said:


lol they are not even popular , except shigatsu i really like classical music and slice of life genre in general..


are you ignorance or what? serious question...


They are not even popularLol have you ever heard of Aoi bungaku ? what about knk , also your fav list is abig troll
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Kuma said:


are you ignorance or what? serious question...


They are not even popularLol have you ever heard of Aoi bungaku ? what about knk , also your fav list is abig troll


bitch, aoi bungaku was literaly adapted from classic literature which all of them sit in japanese best seller story.. it's also spawned separated movie after it...

kara no kyokai is part of fate/ franchise....

you need to be closed your damn eyes saying both of them is not popular...

also, how is my favorite a troll?
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NickRyuzaki said:
Kuma said:


are you ignorance or what? serious question...


They are not even popularLol have you ever heard of Aoi bungaku ? what about knk , also your fav list is abig troll


Shows on your list that you like that are popular. HERE WE GO LIST TIME!!!

Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
Death Note
Fate Zero
Byousoku 5 Centimeter
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo
Spice and Wolf
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Psycho-Pass
Shingeki no Kyojin
Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu
Zankyou no Terror
Monster
Fullmetal Alchemist 2003
Steins;Gate
Hyouka
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!
Noragami
Charlotte
Shokugeki no Souma: Ni no Sara

These are all 7/10's and higher on your list and considering an 8 is your highest score (cough I guess it is 9) from what I can tell these should all be considered what you like the most. So um do tell me again how most popular stuff is bad?
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Kuma said:
NickRyuzaki said:


They are not even popularLol have you ever heard of Aoi bungaku ? what about knk , also your fav list is abig troll


bitch, aoi bungaku was literaly adapted from classic literature which all of them sit in japanese best seller story.. it's also spawned separated movie after it...

kara no kyokai is part of fate/ franchise....

you need to be closed your damn eyes saying both of them is not popular...

also, how is my favorite a troll?


So what ? they are not popular as anime so u need to stfu , well i wonder u should have really enjoyed shitcom right ?
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Calal-Chan said:
NickRyuzaki said:


They are not even popularLol have you ever heard of Aoi bungaku ? what about knk , also your fav list is abig troll


Shows on your list that you like that are popular. HERE WE GO LIST TIME!!!

Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
Death Note
Fate Zero
Byousoku 5 Centimeter
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo
Spice and Wolf
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Psycho-Pass
Shingeki no Kyojin
Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu
Zankyou no Terror
Monster
Fullmetal Alchemist 2003
Steins;Gate
Hyouka
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!
Noragami
Charlotte
Shokugeki no Souma: Ni no Sara

These are all 7/10's and higher on your list and considering an 8 is your highest score from what I can tell these should all be considered what you like the most. So um do tell me again how most popular stuff is bad?

MOST OF THE POPULAR SHOWS sucks not all of it , hating all of the popular shows means hating anime itself soyea
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Kuma said:
Zardyllas said:
The problem is not being popular, is that popular animes are usually poorly written.

These animes you mentioned, all are a good example of this.
Sword art Online - Badly written characters, forced romance and various plot holes
Tokyo Ghoul - Excessive violence, plot holes, poorly written characters, history without direction

I'm not elitist, but I don't like watching any crap


lot of your favorite is popular, thus lot of your favorite is poorly writen?


TheHopefulOtaku said:
I generally don't favor popular anime, because they follow certain formulas I've grown out of. They tend to:

A) Be shounen action (My Hero Academia)
B) Try too hard to be dark (Tokyo Ghoul) resulting in a dull anime with dull characters that are never happy (Vinland Saga and Berserk are more f*cked up than popular anime ever will be, yet they manage to not be edgy)
C) Be romances/romcoms I don't care for or am not interested in (Ouran Highschool Host Club)


ahhh uhh... but vindland saga and berserk is popular, sure not TG lvl, but they are still popular...

Lordwen said:
Watching football as main source of entertainment, listening to Despacito on repeat, wasting your money on tickets for random superhero movies..

Just staring at any sort of highly popular tendencies in other fields of entertainment tells you enough, and anime is not an exception.

1. It's not always hated, if it is popular it means it has lots of fans, so you're only opting to focus your attention on the negative reception.
2. Even the dude who qualifies as an elitist by your definition truly hates it, so I don't see the point in these percentages. Nobody is binge-watching something as a fan and then pretending it's crap, makes no sense.
3. Again, a matter of preferences as you point out.
4. The more someone is able to form their own opinion, the less it would seem as they lack self-esteem or anything of the sort.

Also defending "popular anime" in this fashion demonstrates you're definitely new to the medium. It's normal that the first few titles you watch belong to the highly popular group, and it's also common that you like them more than most people you find around in discussion forums. But well, it all depends on what are your interests. If blindly defending the few titles you've seen, or opening your mind to new possibilities.


i don't see any different between people who starting watch anime because ghibli movies, or SAO, or toonami, or even rondom obsecure hentai VHS...


No, but most are.

Let's look at the ranking of the most popular:
2 - Shingeki
3 - SAO
6 - Code Geass
8 - Tokyo Ghoul
9 - Naruto
16 - Bleach
17 - Fairy Tail
25 - Another
26 - Akame ga Kill

Being popular does not automatically make the anime bad, but like I said, most of them are lazy and poorly written and so it's easier for any casual otaku to understand and like.
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bitch, aoi bungaku was literaly adapted from classic literature which all of them sit in japanese best seller story.. it's also spawned separated movie after it...

kara no kyokai is part of fate/ franchise....

you need to be closed your damn eyes saying both of them is not popular...

also, how is my favorite a troll?


So what ? they are not popular as anime so u need to stfu , well i wonder u should have really enjoyed shitcom right ?


what? they wouldn't get anime adaptation if they arent' popular enough to begin with... overall series popularity is not only by anime, it is a franchise to begin with... and it is still popular franchise watched by more people than lets said my favorite... and for the record, aoi bungaku has high ratings for late night shows, as well kara no kyokai got fucking 7 movie, all of them is ranked in box office japan...

and yes, shitcom is heavily misunderstood... it is great...

Zardyllas said:
Kuma said:


lot of your favorite is popular, thus lot of your favorite is poorly writen?


No, but most are.

Let's look at the ranking of the most popular:
2 - Shingeki
3 - SAO
6 - Code Geass
8 - Tokyo Ghoul
9 - Naruto
16 - Bleach
17 - Fairy Tail
25 - Another
26 - Akame ga Kill

Being popular does not automatically make the anime bad, but like I said, most of them are lazy and poorly written and so it's easier for any casual otaku to understand and like.


most of your favorites is popular, so as well most of you favorite is mostly poorly writen... it simply math... also shingeki, TG, naruto, bleach, FT, AgK, most of them is for common mass (look at what magazine publish them and their time slot)... it was your favorite that for otaku...
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Kuma said:
NickRyuzaki said:


So what ? they are not popular as anime so u need to stfu , well i wonder u should have really enjoyed shitcom right ?


what? they wouldn't get anime adaptation if they arent' popular enough to begin with... overall series popularity is not only by anime, it is a franchise to begin with... and it is still popular franchise watched by more people than lets said my favorite... and for the record, aoi bungaku has high ratings for late night shows, as well kara no kyokai got fucking 7 movie, all of them is ranked in box office japan...

and yes, shitcom is heavily misunderstood... it is great...

Zardyllas said:


No, but most are.

Let's look at the ranking of the most popular:
2 - Shingeki
3 - SAO
6 - Code Geass
8 - Tokyo Ghoul
9 - Naruto
16 - Bleach
17 - Fairy Tail
25 - Another
26 - Akame ga Kill

Being popular does not automatically make the anime bad, but like I said, most of them are lazy and poorly written and so it's easier for any casual otaku to understand and like.


most of your favorites is popular, so as well most of you favorite is mostly poorly writen... it simply math... also shingeki, TG, naruto, bleach, FT, AgK, most of them is for common mass (look at what magazine publish them and their time slot)... it was your favorite that for otaku...

Why won't u fucking watch it then ? lol
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NickRyuzaki said:
Calal-Chan said:


Shows on your list that you like that are popular. HERE WE GO LIST TIME!!!

Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
Death Note
Fate Zero
Byousoku 5 Centimeter
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo
Spice and Wolf
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Psycho-Pass
Shingeki no Kyojin
Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu
Zankyou no Terror
Monster
Fullmetal Alchemist 2003
Steins;Gate
Hyouka
Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!
Noragami
Charlotte
Shokugeki no Souma: Ni no Sara

These are all 7/10's and higher on your list and considering an 8 is your highest score from what I can tell these should all be considered what you like the most. So um do tell me again how most popular stuff is bad?

MOST OF THE POPULAR SHOWS sucks not all of it , hating all of the popular shows means hating anime itself soyea


I mean I was only really messing with you a tiny bit anyway. Granted I do think you don't hate popular anime in general but more just hate a lot of anime in general. I say this due to your mean score just being really low lol.
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Calal-Chan said:
NickRyuzaki said:

MOST OF THE POPULAR SHOWS sucks not all of it , hating all of the popular shows means hating anime itself soyea


I mean I was only really messing with you a tiny bit anyway. Granted I do think you don't hate popular anime in general but more just hate a lot of anime in general. I say this due to your mean score just being really low lol.


It is low because i am a masochist , instead of dropping shows i was trying to finish them all :/
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NickRyuzaki said:
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what? they wouldn't get anime adaptation if they arent' popular enough to begin with... overall series popularity is not only by anime, it is a franchise to begin with... and it is still popular franchise watched by more people than lets said my favorite... and for the record, aoi bungaku has high ratings for late night shows, as well kara no kyokai got fucking 7 movie, all of them is ranked in box office japan...

and yes, shitcom is heavily misunderstood... it is great...



most of your favorites is popular, so as well most of you favorite is mostly poorly writen... it simply math... also shingeki, TG, naruto, bleach, FT, AgK, most of them is for common mass (look at what magazine publish them and their time slot)... it was your favorite that for otaku...

Why won't u fucking watch it then ? lol


because it is not my prefference? (tho i does read some of aoi bungaku novel because literature classses)... why?
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desseroni said:
Well I dislike them because I find most action anime to be quite boring.


well in this case its not action anime tho. like shigatsu many of shit complaining this anime so yeah
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Alarice said:
NickRyuzaki said:
You dropped fullmetal there is nothing to say
the reason is i forget what episode im at and i havent try to find it



dude you just dropped one piece , fairy tail and sakurasou with 1/10 score. well
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NickRyuzaki said:
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You've watched 600 anime and rated them an average of 3.71. You watch stuff you hate and have only dropped 10 ever. I think if you can watch 300+ anime and give them below a four, he can drop one show.



Anyways, most popular anime is pretty good in my opinion and they are popular because they are good. Very few super popular ones I have hated but I do realize for the ones I have hated I am not their target viewer. (I dropped SAO mid-season 1 and One Punch almost immediately)

One simple does not drop fullmetal , nah most of the popular shows suck , fma is one of those rare anime that both Elitists and Tards can agree is good


FMA is one of my favorite anime/manga franchises of all time but seriously....people can dislike popular shows or manga and drop them if they find its not for them. Its an opinion and honestly reading negative things about series that you like can point out some flaws you might have missed though in most cases many of the elements people point out I can admit exist but don't bother me as they might others.

As for the OP while sure some people might hold controversial opinions simply to look smarter or to be unique a grand majority do feel that it wasn't for them and ultimately there is nothing wrong with that. If everyone shared the same opinion on anime I would find that pretty boring....
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Kuma said:
NickRyuzaki said:


So what ? they are not popular as anime so u need to stfu , well i wonder u should have really enjoyed shitcom right ?


what? they wouldn't get anime adaptation if they arent' popular enough to begin with... overall series popularity is not only by anime, it is a franchise to begin with... and it is still popular franchise watched by more people than lets said my favorite... and for the record, aoi bungaku has high ratings for late night shows, as well kara no kyokai got fucking 7 movie, all of them is ranked in box office japan...

and yes, shitcom is heavily misunderstood... it is great...

Zardyllas said:


No, but most are.

Let's look at the ranking of the most popular:
2 - Shingeki
3 - SAO
6 - Code Geass
8 - Tokyo Ghoul
9 - Naruto
16 - Bleach
17 - Fairy Tail
25 - Another
26 - Akame ga Kill

Being popular does not automatically make the anime bad, but like I said, most of them are lazy and poorly written and so it's easier for any casual otaku to understand and like.


most of your favorites is popular, so as well most of you favorite is mostly poorly writen... it simply math... also shingeki, TG, naruto, bleach, FT, AgK, most of them is for common mass (look at what magazine publish them and their time slot)... it was your favorite that for otaku...


Simple math to what evaluate if its good the more people that like it that means its trash? Its preferences writing can be subjective mass popularity of art usually ends up being regarded as a classic from the period as most enjoyed it and therefore remembered it and also it isn't indicative of quality. Acting like your superior because you watch other cartoons over others is pretty ridiculous. Anime and manga as an art form held in the eyes of pretentious critics will all be regarded as vastly inferior no matter the series.
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North514 said:
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One simple does not drop fullmetal , nah most of the popular shows suck , fma is one of those rare anime that both Elitists and Tards can agree is good


FMA is one of my favorite anime/manga franchises of all time but seriously....people can dislike popular shows or manga and drop them if they find its not for them. Its an opinion and honestly reading negative things about series that you like can point out some flaws you might have missed though in most cases many of the elements people point out I can admit exist but don't bother me as they might others.

As for the OP while sure some people might hold controversial opinions simply to look smarter or to be unique a grand majority do feel that it wasn't for them and ultimately there is nothing wrong with that. If everyone shared the same opinion on anime I would fine that pretty boring....


Well for the FMA i already said i dropped it because i forget what episode im at. i put random episode on my anime list ( i think im on dog-human scene. ) . i just put score based whatever i remember in my mind. so for now 6/10 but maybe if i decide to continue and reach the end it can change.

and sure it will be boring if theres no different opinion bcz if our opinion all the same MAL forum will not extist cuz nothing to discuss

but i guess discussion post is for people that honestly score the anime and really watch it not the one who try to be look smarter. like on my thread. i can accept that some people really dont like anime but 50% of it is just acting AFAIK
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North514 said:
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what? they wouldn't get anime adaptation if they arent' popular enough to begin with... overall series popularity is not only by anime, it is a franchise to begin with... and it is still popular franchise watched by more people than lets said my favorite... and for the record, aoi bungaku has high ratings for late night shows, as well kara no kyokai got fucking 7 movie, all of them is ranked in box office japan...

and yes, shitcom is heavily misunderstood... it is great...



most of your favorites is popular, so as well most of you favorite is mostly poorly writen... it simply math... also shingeki, TG, naruto, bleach, FT, AgK, most of them is for common mass (look at what magazine publish them and their time slot)... it was your favorite that for otaku...


Simple math to what evaluate if its good the more people that like it that means its trash? Its preferences writing can be subjective mass popularity of art usually ends up being regarded as a classic from the period as most enjoyed it and therefore remembered it and also it isn't indicative of quality. Acting like your superior because you watch other cartoons over others is pretty ridiculous. Anime and manga as an art form held in the eyes of pretentious critics will all be regarded as vastly inferior no matter the series.


if you follow the conversation, they are the one that saying that, not me.... i simply pointing out their irony and ignorancies....
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Kuma said:
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Simple math to what evaluate if its good the more people that like it that means its trash? Its preferences writing can be subjective mass popularity of art usually ends up being regarded as a classic from the period as most enjoyed it and therefore remembered it and also it isn't indicative of quality. Acting like your superior because you watch other cartoons over others is pretty ridiculous. Anime and manga as an art form held in the eyes of pretentious critics will all be regarded as vastly inferior no matter the series.


if you follow the conversation, they are the one that saying that, not me.... i simply pointing out their irony....

Okay yeah I didn't really read most of it still its pretty simple answer to a lot of these topics people like what they like.
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