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yhunata said: MoonStar9 said: Bland as fuck ending. I literally felt nothing. Ichigo x Orihime and Rukia x Renji.... bah! Feels like Naruto all over again. The RenRuki kid looks really retarded. Like it shouldn't have existed. Bleach gets a 4/10 from me. To be honest, I'm more surprised at the fact that spirits can have kids. Makes you wonder what the point of the living world is if in the Soul Society you don't get hungry if you don't have reiatsu, you live for millennia and age slowly, and can procreate. |
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MoonStar9 said: Makes you wonder what the point of the living world is if in the Soul Society you don't get hungry if you don't have reiatsu, you live for millennia and age slowly, and can procreate. Souls reincarnate. You don't create new souls. SS inhabitants are not literal souls. They are bodies made out of reishi inhabited by a soul. Any newborn be it in real world or SS is reincarnation of someone passed away. pumpkinmuay said: I can't tell if you're defending this shit storm or not Fai? Bleach has been a slow train to hell since after Ichigo saved Rukia. It probably should have ended after Aizen and instead it just lingered on and on and on. I am 100% happy that I can finally put this on completed. AS I already said There's nothing wrong with this final chapter. Its a solid sensible ending. What is wrong is few dozens of chapters that should have beenbefore this chapter. let's not bring up the "it got bad after SS!!111" meme. It was the same. just mainstream people had to transition from anime to manga and suddenly they recognized that it is far easier to consume bleach 20 chapters at once or in animated condensed form than it is to wait for each chapter a week where nothing seemingly happens. |
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| And so it ends with that typical "everyone gets kids" and everyone ships are answered. I see potential in Ichi and Orih kid tho Kazui that power like DAMN! Kubo do everyone some justice and released a special book to answer everyones question -prays in head- |
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StefanHere said: Are you trying to insult Togashi or Miaura?hopefully this will set a good example for mangaka for kubo to be so delusional that he thought he could drag-out bleach forever even while losing more then half his audience already, and go onto produce this dogshit ending for a 15 year old manga |
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| Well Bleach finally is over. It was an okay ending and not much fan of the shipping but cute kids they have.But why does Ichika which is Rukia daughter has some of Ichigo name in it lol... |
pumpkinmuay said: I can't tell if you're defending this shit storm or not Fai? Bleach has been a slow train to hell since after Ichigo saved Rukia. It probably should have ended after Aizen and instead it just lingered on and on and on. I am 100% happy that I can finally put this on completed. AS I already said There's nothing wrong with this final chapter. Its a solid sensible ending. What is wrong is few dozens of chapters that should have beenbefore this chapter. let's not bring up the "it got bad after SS!!111" meme. It was the same. just mainstream people had to transition from anime to manga and suddenly they recognized that it is far easier to consume bleach 20 chapters at once or in animated condensed form than it is to wait for each chapter a week where nothing seemingly happens.[/quote] But it was better back then? I've both read Bleach in small and large quantities (I let chapters pile up for a while) and It's just been worse in general. Has nothing to do with how I've read it lol. |
| So exactly why do you guys think Kubo was "forced" to end the manga? I'm asking because I found this entire final arc to be an incredibly boring failure, just like Hueco Mundo or Fullbringer arcs. From the beginning to the end the villains always had the advantage in fights; good guys winning at the very last moment in just a few panels; cheap deaths that were often negated; an enemy that wiped itself out twice, rarely letting the good guys get a win; several plot threads left without denouement; Ichigo never became as strong again as he was when he defeated Aizen while his new abilities were always blocked without showing their potential; and a final battle that was so one sided against them they only won thanks to a "Hail Mary" attack. The moment when Kazui absorbed the final villain by sticking his hand into a hole is emblematic of this entire series, in my opinion. You got a guy who is strong only by the virtue of being born special, who defeats his enemies with no effort. That is also true for most villains, just look at Aizen or Ywach, who won most of their battles by pulling a new secret trick from their hats. The problem most people don't want to acknowledge is that Kubo wrote a much more ambitious arc than his own writing abilities would allow. And it's not just a problem limited to this arc either. Aizen's defeat was also one of those moments that readers expected to be great, but it all got solved when Urahara revealed his macguffin technique who imprisoned Aizen, making the confrontation between the latter and Ichigo pointless. Battle mangas live and die by how satisfying those battles are, and this is Kubo's biggest flaw, that for 15 years of publication, very few battles that he penned were actually satisfying. Add to this some very poor world building, characters who make grandstanding speeches just for the sake of it, and you have a manga that will never live up to expectations. That is the only reason why Bleach is a bad manga. Not because of "haters", not because of evil Shueisha "forcing" Kubo to end the manga. The failures of Bleach lie only on Kubo and Kubo alone. |
| good grief, it's finally done. I don't even know what to say. just... fucking shit, man. at least chair-sama made one final appearance. that's the only thing that saved this god-awful chapter. |
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| Can't believe there are people who are actually defending this ending or the last arc in general. Don't know if it's blind fanboyism or Stockholm Syndrome at this point. Anyway, as always, worst girl wins. I feel like it's a law in Japan or something that it must happen every time. Not like I care much. It's just hilarious seeing all these people who's followed this series for years be surprised that the master of all trolls pulled a shitty ending. What did you honestly expect? |
Lu_Aza said: Kubo, master of making me love him even after all this time due exactly to the amount of pain from shippers that will flow from this one single chapter. Troll of the year, all year, every year, forwards and backwards through time and even into other universes. The best troll is the author of SnK though |
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| Following Bleach for more than a decade ended up with an incomplete ending. |
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Fai said: MoonStar9 said: Makes you wonder what the point of the living world is if in the Soul Society you don't get hungry if you don't have reiatsu, you live for millennia and age slowly, and can procreate. Souls reincarnate. You don't create new souls. SS inhabitants are not literal souls. They are bodies made out of reishi inhabited by a soul. Any newborn be it in real world or SS is reincarnation of someone passed away. Yes, yes, yes. Memories of Nobody. So instead of flesh and bone made out of carbon and calcium we instead have flesh and bone made out of reishi... Which also causes them to age slower, except in Ichika's case..... |
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Arashi89 said: So exactly why do you guys think Kubo was "forced" to end the manga? I'm asking because I found this entire final arc to be an incredibly boring failure, just like Hueco Mundo or Fullbringer arcs. Probably got canned by WSJ. Read somewhere that it's sales had been declining and that it consistently ranked among the bottom of the magazine. They kept giving him chances, but got fed up and told him to wrap it up, since he clearly wasn't gonna be changing any time soon. hidrag said: So I'm the only one bothered by the fact that two shinigamis can make babies Ninja'd you on that already mate. It's kinda hilarious that in the long history (1000+ years) of Soul Society, Rukia and Renji are the first ones who ever looked at each other and went "Let's fuck and make babies". |
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SmoothJazzDavis said: StefanHere said: Are you trying to insult Togashi or Miaura?hopefully this will set a good example for mangaka for kubo to be so delusional that he thought he could drag-out bleach forever even while losing more then half his audience already, and go onto produce this dogshit ending for a 15 year old manga neither as even with the hiatuses HxH still sells amazingly and im pretty sure of the entire magazine Togashi has the most control over his story Berserk im not sure, i think it will get the Kubo treatment in the future aswell, i could be wrong though i havent seen berserks sales |
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| Disappointed anime indeed especially the Yhwach's fight. Being called the most powerful being, with Soul King power + 1000(?) years of Quincy power by absorbing from all Quincy. Lose to someone who only train for few days for new power. The fuck is that. |
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| This chapter is more pointless than the "final" fight with Yhwach. Really sad for unresolved plots and all the forgotten characters. I know, final arc wasn't so good from the beginning but this rushed end is even more WTF. Glad Aizen is alive but really SS imprisoned him again lol?! Is pretty clear he can free himself whenever he want. Ichika and Kazui are very cute :) |
StefanHere said: SmoothJazzDavis said: Are you trying to insult Togashi or Miaura? neither as even with the hiatuses HxH still sells amazingly and im pretty sure of the entire magazine Togashi has the most control over his story Berserk im not sure, i think it will get the Kubo treatment in the future aswell, i could be wrong though i havent seen berserks sales Still Berserk has a godlike plot. |
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yhunata said: Arashi89 said: So exactly why do you guys think Kubo was "forced" to end the manga? I'm asking because I found this entire final arc to be an incredibly boring failure, just like Hueco Mundo or Fullbringer arcs. Probably got canned by WSJ. Read somewhere that it's sales had been declining and that it consistently ranked among the bottom of the magazine. They kept giving him chances, but got fed up and told him to wrap it up, since he clearly wasn't gonna be changing any time soon. hidrag said: So I'm the only one bothered by the fact that two shinigamis can make babies Ninja'd you on that already mate. It's kinda hilarious that in the long history (1000+ years) of Soul Society, Rukia and Renji are the first ones who ever looked at each other and went "Let's fuck and make babies". Why is it surprising? we have seen noble houses having successors for the family. It's not that weird that souls can reproduce. |
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| Karin's big tits is the only good thing that came out of this ending... and maybe the fact that Aizen still love his chair. |
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BigBoss said: yhunata said: Probably got canned by WSJ. Read somewhere that it's sales had been declining and that it consistently ranked among the bottom of the magazine. They kept giving him chances, but got fed up and told him to wrap it up, since he clearly wasn't gonna be changing any time soon. Ninja'd you on that already mate. It's kinda hilarious that in the long history (1000+ years) of Soul Society, Rukia and Renji are the first ones who ever looked at each other and went "Let's fuck and make babies". Why is it surprising? we have seen noble houses having successors for the family. It's not that weird that souls can reproduce. Wasn't it implied that they adopt spirits, not reproduce? |
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| Ichigo married Orihime.. No more Ulquihime D: This ending left so many unanswered question.. What happened to Kira? Lille? Valkyrie? Grimmjow & co? Halibel? Ryuken and Isshin in the last battle?? -and some other characters, i can't name them all- Well, i hope that they'll make another chapter to explain all unexplained things.. My final rate for this manga is 7/10.. (5/10 if Ulquiorra didn't appears in this manga lol) |
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MoonStar9 said: Fai said: Souls reincarnate. You don't create new souls. SS inhabitants are not literal souls. They are bodies made out of reishi inhabited by a soul. Any newborn be it in real world or SS is reincarnation of someone passed away. Yes, yes, yes. Memories of Nobody. So instead of flesh and bone made out of carbon and calcium we instead have flesh and bone made out of reishi... Which also causes them to age slower, except in Ichika's case..... Yes their bodies mimic live bodies. The only difference is that the only true way tokill someone with a reishi body is to behead them. Other injuries are treatable(Hence why Yuha took his time completely evaporating Yamamoto) Again that's specific for Byakuya's wife. They adopt children whenthey can't have their own. That's a common practice intended for continuation of noble families. |
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yhunata said: BigBoss said: Why is it surprising? we have seen noble houses having successors for the family. It's not that weird that souls can reproduce. Wasn't it implied that they adopt spirits, not reproduce? I think Shihoin clan is a good example of a possibility that they can reproduce as Yoruichi and Yushiro definitelly look related. |
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| Off-topic: Why does the MAL page say that it's ending on Monday and not now? Want to put this on "completed" asap... |
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Yukkicchi said: Off-topic: Why does the MAL page say that it's ending on Monday and not now? Want to put this on "completed" asap... Chapter hasn't come out in Japan yet. |
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| Good lord,it ended.And what a trainwreck it was. I found it hilarious how the very last chapter cover has everyone in the human cast shown....And the back of Ishida's head.Really suits his role in the series overall,haha. Like the last 10 chapters,it was completely rushed and it really,really showed. Ichigo and Hime hooking and getting a kid when Ichigo would barely even notice her was pretty terrible and sudden,if somewhat predictable IMO (like NaruHina,but this one eventually got itself a movie somewhat explaining it). Shounen manga and their epilogues with kids. Renji and Rukia together was cool though. Having Ywach maybe return,only for Junior to show up and take his residual power out like nothing? Another anticlimax,although teasing Yhwach's return in the first place in the second-to-last chapter was a pretty terrible choice to begin with. And finally,a glimpse of how the fight ended and...Meh.Nothing was really explained at all,and Aizen,of all people, gives the aesop about courage and needing to accept the reality of death. Not even gonna bring up the cast that either casually bushed off death,or just plain disappeared (like Grimmjow,Yoruichi and ESPECIALLY Nel and Harribel). Nidhoeggr said: «I have been reading Bleach weekly ever since catching up with it over a decade ago and it really never recovered after the first Soul Society arc. IMO, a lot of the problems with Bleach started at the SS arc. I though the very first arc was by far the best of them all. Anyway,up until Warwelt happened,Bleach've left me pretty numb.This rushed ending.....Was pretty flaccid as well. GG,Bleach. |
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Kreion said: Bleach managed to build up two characters together for 15 years, build up the idea that it's not safe for Ichigo to stay in the human world (we know this because that's also the reasons Captains need limiters) and build up Orihime growing stronger as a person so she wouldn't have to rely on Ichigo and then, in ONE chapter, toss that all down the drain. Somebody is completely misreading whole manga through shipper goggles. Uh oh. Bleach built up both Ichigo and Orihime to open up and move past their past tragedies and build a new happy family with each other. THAT has been constant progress and that as been pretty much the only romance that was constantly moving(pretty much only romance with an actual, even if one-sided, confession too). What would be other options? Tatsuki? While there was some build up she is obviously lesbian and childhood friend never wins. Rukia? While she was Ichigo's best friend, she never showed any romantic interest and their relationship never moved past platonic the way Ichigo/Orihime did. Orihime started out as someone lingering onto her brother's death and who lived alone and without a family. She lived alone talking to a freaking portrait and having no idea what she wants of life or even whether her existence is worth anything. Ichigo started out as someone driven by his guilt to hide behind the punk facade and avoid opening up to anyone around him. He hid his guilt behind his angry face and he grew obsessed with idea of protecting others at the expense of his own wellbeing to the unhealthy lengths(as explored in Fullbring arc). Through the story we have seen both moving forward because of each other and learning to move past their past tragedies. Hell, we literally spelled that out with the Orihime saying that she will heal Ichigo no matter how broken he geats to Riruka, which is double-meaning in that it both means physically and it both means moving past what haunts them. And by the time of Masaki flashback and the obvious similarities between Isshin/Masaki and Ichigo/Orihime there was pretty much no doubt left that IF romance ever happens for Ichigo it will be this one. It came to the point that even other characters like Rangiku, Ulquiorra, Grimjow, Nnoitora or even Rukia noticed their building romance. If anything it was set in stone ever since the battle against Ulquiorra. All that was left was for Ichigo to accept himself and heal emotionally, escaping being haunted by despair surrounding his life. Which he did in the last arc. I mean you would have been blind to not notice that they will pretty much become a pair in the last arc, especially in the last tagteam fight. The end result makes sense - Orihime finally has a family and is not alone in the world and Ichigo has learned to smile and too has moved past his past tragedies. |
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| Well, I had been following Bleach for like 5 and a half year and seeing it end in this rushed, incomplete way is kind of sad despise for it to been mediocre the past 5 years lol Though I would never had guessed that parings for the characters would happen right at the end lol In that case, Then even Gintama might hopefully do the same thing once it ends at well, but in that series they actualy have build-up for most of the characters xd |
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| Welp, this series was a pointless and boring piece of crap... |
| It's weird when you realize that you've been following this for more than 10 years. Time passes so quickly. I'm a bit bummed by the ending. So many unresolved plot points and loose ends were left hanging. What was the Soul King in the end? Most importantly, why is it called Bleach? We'll never know... That aside, it was a nice ride everyone. I hope Kubo partners with a good writer and makes a gem as he's a really talented artist with lots of untapped potential. Have fun everyone and keep being great! |
| Well that chapter...existed. Wasn't good, not bad, just existed. Although, anyone else find Chad becoming a boxer weird? Like, considering his backstory/personality and such it seems odd to me that he'd take up a career in punching people. |
| I'm disappointed in myself for having continued to read this garbage after the Aizen arc. What a waste of time, the ending is even worse than Naruto's. And no Rukia+Ichigo ending? That's some major bullshit right there. Years ago I would've been disappointed, but I've already reached a point where I don't expect anything from this trash manga. I'm glad it's finally over, what a waste of time. Definitely can't recommend this to anyone... if anyone actually plans to read this in the future, do yourself a favor and stop after the Aizen arc. |
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| Exactl Viz said: exactly lol. I don't know why people feel the need to try and compare this to naruto when the endings are nothing alike besides both having children.uzee said: Kinda annoyed that Ichigo chose the same haircut as Naruto in the future, but working in a clinic wouldn't allow him that wild metal hair that looks epic on him What.. ? He actually looked like a younger Isshin, rather than hokage Naruto. |
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CondemneDio said: But you read all of it. Nice logic buddy.Welp, this series was a pointless and boring piece of crap... |
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| Well that ending was pretty alright, Seeing Ichigo and Orihime getting together, Rukia and Renji as well and finally their children. But I feel there should be more in the end. Overall the manga was good but got boring in the end. |
| Dead people can reproduce. I'm done. |
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