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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Shizu power! Awai starts off by getting into a streak of double-riichis, but one by one the other players show that, given the right circumstances, they can hold her off. And gradually, the incessant riichis go from being Awai's strength to being her weakness, as she plays into their hands more often than not. But eventually, the riichis stop coming, and, instead of everyone trying to fight off Awai, everyone is now trying to fight off Shizu. Even Shindouji has difficulty claiming their yakuman win. But Shizu's strength only grows over time, and she pulls out a comfortable lead. Awai thinks that she can take the top spot back, but Shizu is only getting more powerful, and her kan ura dora fail to materialise, leaving Achiga first and Shiraitodai second advancing to the finals. Achiga goes on a trip to the special room where the tournament finals will be held. Meanwhile, Shiraitodai vows to grow stronger, Toki yearns for Ryuuka's thighs, and Shindouji... eat tacos. Talking of tacos, we then get some preview shots of the other semi-finals, giving us our first colour shots of certain characters. And thus ends the final episode of Achiga-hen. I wonder how they'll deal with the side B quarterfinals in the anime next year - they've spoiled the results enough in Achiga-hen. Maybe they'll just brush through them to focus on the semi-finals, which they are seriously hyping up (justifiably, from the way the manga is currently going). |
kuuderes_shadowMay 25, 2013 5:16 AM
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| Love it!!! The continuation of this anime is definitely something to look forward to for 2014 ^.^ |
| I thought Ryuuka would be able to use Toki's ability 1 more time . She really used her own ability like only 2 times LOL. Dam this was a really close match, i was kinda confused as to who was going to win for a moment but oh well as expected achiga and shiraitodai got in. |
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| That was some top-notch animation :) It was so intense there...I still find it funny that Awai was crying after she failed to get 1st place. lol. Unfortunately, there won't be anymore Saki now until next year ;A; I guess I'll just have to make do with the manga for now... T_T |
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rederoin said: They won't deal with semi-finals next year, we are still in the first hanchan of the semi's of side B. Ritz will be at the vice-captain match at best in 12 months. If it's a 2-cour, and the anime gets a couple of months ahead of the manga again, then we'd be looking at about 18 months though. greenmush said: I thought Ryuuka would be able to use Toki's ability 1 more time . She really used her own ability like only 2 times LOL. She used it twice this episode. She used it a few times in the last one as well. |
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 DAT HAIR. Yup, it's a big one. Also, Toki is voiced by the same VA as Tsukiko from Henneko right? Oop, I just checked and looks like it. Well, grats to Shizuno obviously. Anyways, nice episodes. |
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Stark700 said: Yup, it's a big one. Also, Toki is voiced by the same VA as Tsukiko from Henneko right? Oop, I just checked and looks like it. Well, grats to Shizuno obviously. Anyways, nice episodes. And Ryuuka by the same VA as Azuki Azusa, in case you are interested? Lols |
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kuuderes_shadow said: rederoin said: They won't deal with semi-finals next year, we are still in the first hanchan of the semi's of side B. Ritz will be at the vice-captain match at best in 12 months. If it's a 2-cour, and the anime gets a couple of months ahead of the manga again, then we'd be looking at about 18 months though. . But it will be way to far ahead, they won't do that. Maybe if we ritz reached the captains round before the anime the 2nd cour started(June 2014), but she won't. Splitting the quarters and semi's is way more likely. We'll get the semi's around winter 2015(if we are lucky). Takuan_Soho said: kuuderes_shadow said: I wonder how they'll deal with the side B quarterfinals in the anime next year - they've spoiled the results enough in Achiga-hen. Maybe they'll just brush through them to focus on the semi-finals, which they are seriously hyping up (justifiably, from the way the manga is currently going). They will breeze through it. You can't say that it was "spoiled" because it was already in the Manga, but the way they will deal with it will be to move quickly through the quarters and the semis, so they can focus more on the finals. People will watch because they will want to see the characters and moves animated. Ah, Kagoshima all girls! They don't have a reason to do, they won't have enough material if they rush the quarters. |
| Pff a year is nothing it would pass really fast. Great episode !!! It was worth all the wait. |
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kuuderes_shadow said: Normally I'd chew on some unsweetened chocolate myself, but whatever works....and Shindouji... eat tacos. |
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| That was amazing.. It's going to be a long wait. :( |
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| She's so strong that Awai had to actually be happy to at least get second (Of course she was still pissed as hell). I can't wait when all 4 team get together. |
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| Never thought that Shizu could be so OP.. Kinda feel sorry for Awai, Ryuuka, and Himeko. I guess you just can't let everyone win. :/ Gonna miss those Ryuuka x Toki combos! They made Mahjong so cute. xD The finals is gonna be awesome! All the match-ups will be so nerve-wreaking. >< |
| The ending somehow seemed to suggest we might see the final of B-side get animated as well personally it's something i look forward to. It's a shame we will have to do with out anime for a while but we still have the monthly updates of the manga to look forward to. As usually seeing the reactions in the manga was great. |
| What kind of hair spray did Awai use for her tentacle hair? |
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Siva said: What kind of hair spray did Awai use for her tentacle hair? An upgraded version of Koromo's. |
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| GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD GIVE ME MORE SAKI PLEASE :| Well i thought the whole Shizu power was pure bullcrap tbh and getting 1st place that way was anything but cool BUT i don't really care. After making Ryouka look that lame with that "toki power" i didn't care about ANY team atm. All i want to see is everyone getting crashed by KIYOSUMI and that sweet Rinshan Kaihou from Saki :3 |
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Arlia said: So an upgraded version can make your hair has animation like that? I need to stock up some of those, brb.Siva said: What kind of hair spray did Awai use for her tentacle hair? An upgraded version of Koromo's. |
"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie." |
| SATOHA!! Can't wait for Zenkoku-hen, and "lol" at Awai and all her fail-ness. Not even mountains can stop the yuri-love, Himeko ;-;. |
Cloudy-Sky said: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD GIVE ME MORE SAKI PLEASE :| Well i thought the whole Shizu power was pure bullcrap tbh and getting 1st place that way was anything but cool BUT i don't really care. After making Ryouka look that lame with that "toki power" i didn't care about ANY team atm. All i want to see is everyone getting crashed by KIYOSUMI and that sweet Rinshan Kaihou from Saki :3 I wouldn't go as far as saying it is bullcrap. I mean, it was hinted since the half point of the series that Shizu had some very strong card up her sleeves. I think that Ryuka's power was much more random as she was hinted to be a complete logical player, unlike Shizu. But yes, Shizu as a character is pretty bland (So are all Achiga team member) and I can't wait for the anime to actually go back to Kiyosumi. The final match promise to be the most awesome thing in the manga and I can't wait for it. I still maintain my guess that Achiga will win the team tournament, followed by Shiraitodai then the third team (My guess is Rinkai) and in dead last Kiyosumi. Saki vs Teru should happen in the last round of the individual, not in the team tournament where they will not be able to play directly against each other. |
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Takuan_Soho said: kuuderes_shadow said: I wonder how they'll deal with the side B quarterfinals in the anime next year - they've spoiled the results enough in Achiga-hen. Maybe they'll just brush through them to focus on the semi-finals, which they are seriously hyping up (justifiably, from the way the manga is currently going). They will breeze through it. You can't say that it was "spoiled" because it was already in the Manga, but the way they will deal with it will be to move quickly through the quarters and the semis, so they can focus more on the finals. People will watch because they will want to see the characters and moves animated. Ah, Kagoshima all girls! non manga reader here |
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| Amazing end! Waiting for next Saki in 2014 ^^ |
| Might be a long but i can wait for some more Saki in the future!. |
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Takuan_Soho said: People will watch because they will want to see the characters and moves animated. Ah, Kagoshima all girls! ohh yea u hit the spot! :D |
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| I don't understand why people complaining about Shizu's ability. She wins only by skill. Her ability just blocks others abilities making them even. And it works not 100% and the chances are even lower in some cases. |
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Nachtwandler_21 said: I don't understand why people complaining about Shizu's ability. She wins only by skill. Her ability just blocks others abilities making them even. And it works not 100% and the chances are even lower in some cases. I think it is a bit more than just ability blocking, for two reasons: 1 (manga spoiler): 2. It's referred to as her territory. That and the fog makes it seem like it becomes significantly harder for anyone other than Shizuno to win in those end parts of the game when her ability activates fully, whether they are using an ability or not, as well as making Shizu more likely to win. It's just that pretty much every hand in that entire final round was won using one or another special ability, and Shizu's ability could thus only ever activate by blocking off the ability of another (i.e. Awai). That's my view of it at any rate. |
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| Very nice ending and worth the wait but I still want more of Toki |
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| Loved the episode all the way to the end. :3 Can't wait for the second season of the parent story! GO SAKI AND NODOKA!  |
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| The team that could barely limp into the tournament by the skin of their teeth ended up in first place...I hate plot armor. A second place may have been okay, but this was just too much. Anyway, I really enjoyed Achiga-hen as a whole, there were some lovely couples and really intense battles. I appreciate that we got a different perspective, other than the franchise's main band, it was quite refreshing and will make for more a powerful ending. If Ritz gets it done in our lifetimes of course. 7/10. Seeing how strong the Himeko-Mairu combo is, I wonder what would happen if Teru-Saki could team up... And now we wait. |
Mogami-kun said: The team that could barely limp into the tournament by the skin of their teeth ended up in first place...I hate plot armor. A second place may have been okay, but this was just too much. Anyway, I really enjoyed Achiga-hen as a whole, there were some lovely couples and really intense battles. I appreciate that we got a different perspective, other than the franchise's main band, it was quite refreshing and will make for more a powerful ending. If Ritz gets it done in our lifetimes of course. 7/10. Seeing how strong the Himeko-Mairu combo is, I wonder what would happen if Teru-Saki could team up... And now we wait. The only reason they had a hard time to enter the tournament was because of Shizu, everyone else totally dominated their round. Shizu is stronger when she plays against monster because those monster are often incompetent player than only managed to get high rank because of their power. Shizu strip those persons from their power and while she is herself a pretty competent logical player, most of the other aren't. Basically, put Shizu on a table against 3 logical player pro and watch her getting her ass raped. Put her against 3 monster pro and she could even hold her own ground. |
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Mogami-kun said: Seeing how strong the Himeko-Mairu combo is, I wonder what would happen if Teru-Saki could team up... Himeko-Mairu is only such a strong combo because of how... affectionate... they are for each other. I don't see Teru having any such feelings towards Saki at present. Even Saki's memory flashbacks don't show them having an atypically strong sibling bond. Saki and Teru on the same team would be insanely strong, but only because they are both so powerful individually. |
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| Not sure why but I found the Ryuuka's eye abilities just plain ridiculous, which is extremely weird considering they got some pretty lol abilities in this series. |
| phaw.... this just reminded me of how much i disliked reading the achiga side of the manga; plot armor galore. think I'm gonna go wander around some mountains so I too can gain a magical "I win" button for mahjong. |
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SilveRR said: mg021 said: phaw.... this just reminded me of how much i disliked reading the achiga side of the manga; plot armor galore. think I'm gonna go wander around some mountains so I too can gain a magical "I win" button for mahjong. I wouldn't exactly call that plot armor, I mean how do other players get their powers? years of competitive play, practice, and experience. picking up a power because you like to wander in the mountains, prefer to be warm rather than cold, or work in a bowling alley are just.... weak in my opinion (repeat, opinion, mind you) Ako is the only one who, since elementary school, worked at and advanced her play to a competitive level, all to get into Bansei, which has(had?) the strongest team in their prefecture. She's the only one on the Achiga squad I could feasibly see having a power to boost her game. the rest managed over the course of a few months to develop powers, learn strategy to counter all opposing schools, and gain enough skill to take them to the finals of a national competition... once again, it's all just very flimsy in my opinion edit: if anything, I think the others are better suited to relying on "beginners luck" like Kaori from the main story. : p |
NinjaDustMay 28, 2013 5:49 PM
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mg021 said: SilveRR said: mg021 said: phaw.... this just reminded me of how much i disliked reading the achiga side of the manga; plot armor galore. think I'm gonna go wander around some mountains so I too can gain a magical "I win" button for mahjong. I wouldn't exactly call that plot armor, I mean how do other players get their powers? years of competitive play, practice, and experience. picking up a power because you like to wander in the mountains, prefer to be warm rather than cold, or work in a bowling alley are just.... weak in my opinion (repeat, opinion, mind you) Ako is the only one who, since elementary school, worked at and advanced her play to a competitive level, all to get into Bansei, which has(had?) the strongest team in their prefecture. She's the only one on the Achiga squad I could feasibly see having a power to boost her game. the rest managed over the course of a few months to develop powers, learn strategy to counter all opposing schools, and gain enough skill to take them to the finals of a national competition... once again, it's all just very flimsy in my opinion edit: if anything, I think the others are better suited to relying on "beginners luck" like Kaori from the main story. : p Yes, because Saki who only did an handful of game when she was young and completely stopped until she started back in the first season being on a power level similar to Teru isn't a plotarmor. Saki isn't the only case of that, actually lot of character have random power only for the sake of having a power and I believe that blaming Achiga for that but not the main series is being an hypocrite. Achiga got bland and boring character, yes. Plotarmor? Not more than the average. |
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Scheherazade1007 said: /snip Yes, because Saki who only did an handful of game when she was young and completely stopped until she started back in the first season being on a power level similar to Teru isn't a plotarmor. Saki isn't the only case of that, actually lot of character have random power only for the sake of having a power and I believe that blaming Achiga for that but not the main series is being an hypocrite. Achiga got bland and boring character, yes. Plotarmor? Not more than the average. lol, a handful? 1) she played enough games with her family to learn how to score +/- 0 against teru most of the time, if not every time. Have you ever tried to score +/- 0 in mahjong? it's not, by any means, something you can manage to do consistently, let alone after a "handful of games." i think i've managed to do it in a couple of rounds, not games, and not consecutively 2) she played enough games to learn how to hate mahjong in general, also something that won't happen in a handful of games. 3) we know next to nothing about her relatives, but we can infer that they are strong enough players to create not one, but two, monster class players through, presumably, years of "friendly" family games 4) I don't recall ever being told when she stopped playing, correct me if it was mentioned. edit: take note in my post, where I said that it was my opinion.... everyone's entitled to have one |
NinjaDustMay 28, 2013 6:27 PM
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mg021 said: Scheherazade1007 said: /snip Yes, because Saki who only did an handful of game when she was young and completely stopped until she started back in the first season being on a power level similar to Teru isn't a plotarmor. Saki isn't the only case of that, actually lot of character have random power only for the sake of having a power and I believe that blaming Achiga for that but not the main series is being an hypocrite. Achiga got bland and boring character, yes. Plotarmor? Not more than the average. lol, a handful? 1) she played enough games with her family to learn how to score +/- 0 against teru most of the time, if not every time. Have you ever tried to score +/- 0 in mahjong? it's not, by any means, something you can manage to do consistently, let alone after a "handful of games." i think i've managed to do it in a couple of rounds, not games, and not consecutively 2) she played enough games to learn how to hate mahjong in general, also something that won't happen in a handful of games. 3) we know next to nothing about her relatives, but we can infer that they are strong enough players to create not one, but two, monster class players through, presumably, years of "friendly" family games 4) I don't recall ever being told when she stopped playing, correct me if it was mentioned. edit: take note in my post, where I said that it was my opinion.... everyone's entitled to have one The girls in Achiga also played a lot when they were young and most of them played more than Saki did (Giving how young she was when Teru and her Mother left which is the moment she stopped playing). You got something the other way around. It's not that Saki played enough game to be able to do +/-0, it's because she has talent. She always was the strongest, she was always the one that won in her family. She did not get better and better through practice, she always was a monster at mahjong, it is an inner talent to her, basically plot armor. 2)No, the reason she hate mahjong is because her family was getting mad at her when she won or when she made herself lose. She couldn't have fun playing against people she couldn't win against without them getting angry. That is also the reason why she developed her +/- 0 style, that way she would stay a passive player for the whole game and wouldn't hinder anyone fun but her own. 3)Their relatives are nothing special otherwise the Miyanaga name would be recognized. Also Teru wasn't a monster back then because she was able to play normally against their parents and she would have been grounded as much as Saki if she had the strength to easily defeat your average adult parents. It is highly likely that Saki is a genius type of character while Teru if the overachieving, hardworking archetype. 4)Saki stopped playing Mahjong when she was very young (around 7 years old, when Teru and her mother left home) and giving her age she played 2 years at most. The next time she touched a mahjong tile was in the first season episode 1 when she was made to play a game in Kiyosumi's mahjong club. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinion but you have to assume what you are saying. If I take a picture of a dog and say it's a bear, I might be entitled to my opinion of a dog being a bear but it doesn't change the fact that the dog isn't a bear. When you use concepts to define something, while it might be your opinion, you have to be ready to defend your position, especially since we are on a forum and the sole purpose of it is to discuss things. |
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mg021 said: I don't remember exactly when, but I think she stopped playing after Teru and her mom left. As for how long ago that was...I don't think it was ever mentioned. But, there was a scene where Saki went into the storage room (i think) at her house and looked at the mahjong table. Her dad mentioned it had been a while since see touched/looked at it.Scheherazade1007 said: /snip Yes, because Saki who only did an handful of game when she was young and completely stopped until she started back in the first season being on a power level similar to Teru isn't a plotarmor. Saki isn't the only case of that, actually lot of character have random power only for the sake of having a power and I believe that blaming Achiga for that but not the main series is being an hypocrite. Achiga got bland and boring character, yes. Plotarmor? Not more than the average. 4) I don't recall ever being told when she stopped playing, correct me if it was mentioned. edit: take note in my post, where I said that it was my opinion.... everyone's entitled to have one |
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| I doubt a child sat down at a mahjong table, and instinctively knew how to play. I doubt a talent for the game was simply born into her. I believe her skill, like everyone's in the parent series, was cultivated over a long period of time. Mako spent all her time in her grandfather's mahjong parlor, Hisa has been playing competitively since middle school, Nodoka had played online for years and competed at a national level, etc. Saki learned the game, became good at the game, became able to win consistently, and then proceeded to learn how to score +/- 0 to avoid raising her relatives' ire. This isn't something that can occur in a handful of games. The girls in Achiga were elementary students who played in a genuinely friendly, after-school-club atmosphere lacking true competition, true pressure, and true trial. there they learned basic rules, and basic strategy, and little else. they then, excepting Ako, stopped playing until reaching high school age. In Saki's case, if you go by the anime, then like Takei_Hisa said above her(Saki's) dad mentioned it had been "a while," a notably vague definition of time, which could be interpreted as a few months, a few weeks, or any other interval of time, but we know with no certainty. In the manga her father only said "the family doesn't play anymore." If you're stating she was "7 years old" as fact, it would be helpful to know where this was mentioned, preferably in the original source material. the relatives could be amazingly talented, or amazingly mediocre, but unless they played professionally it doesn't matter how good they were, they would forever be unrecognized in the mahjong world. also, stating that a picture of a dog is actually a picture of a bear is not an opinion, it is a falsehood, perhaps a fallacy at best. Either way, I stated my opinion, and then provided the reasons I believe it to be true. Try to tone down your combativeness. |
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The girls in Achiga were elementary students who played in a genuinely friendly, after-school-club atmosphere lacking true competition, true pressure, and true trial. there they learned basic rules, and basic strategy, and little else. they then, excepting Ako, stopped playing until reaching high school age. Only Ako, Kuro and Shizu were in that club. Arata was playing against adults with decades of mahjong experience before she stopped. And Yuu? Well, it's never actually been said, but she and Kuro have probably been playing together the whole time. If you're stating she was "7 years old" as fact, it would be helpful to know where this was mentioned, preferably in the original source material. Who would she have played against? She obviously wouldn't have played for fun, or sought out games at any point, and the family has split up so couldn't have played together in that time. I can't think of any place where the exact time they split up was specified, though. But it was definitely years ago. |
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mg021 said: I doubt a child sat down at a mahjong table, and instinctively knew how to play. I doubt a talent for the game was simply born into her. I believe her skill, like everyone's in the parent series, was cultivated over a long period of time. Mako spent all her time in her grandfather's mahjong parlor, Hisa has been playing competitively since middle school, Nodoka had played online for years and competed at a national level, etc. Saki learned the game, became good at the game, became able to win consistently, and then proceeded to learn how to score +/- 0 to avoid raising her relatives' ire. This isn't something that can occur in a handful of games. You are trying to hard to explain power into a way it would fit in our real world. Because they worked hard, they gained abilities. It doesn't always work this way in the Saki verse. In Saki you can improve your power overnight by having a camping trip, doing a few game and having the obvious pointed at you. mg021 said: The girls in Achiga were elementary students who played in a genuinely friendly, after-school-club atmosphere lacking true competition, true pressure, and true trial. there they learned basic rules, and basic strategy, and little else. they then, excepting Ako, stopped playing until reaching high school age. And Saki only played in a family atmosphere, also Kiyosumi's club wasn't a competitive one but one of those 'genuinely friendly after school-club' before Saki joined. mg021 said: In Saki's case, if you go by the anime, then like Takei_Hisa said above her(Saki's) dad mentioned it had been "a while," a notably vague definition of time, which could be interpreted as a few months, a few weeks, or any other interval of time, but we know with no certainty. In the manga her father only said "the family doesn't play anymore." If you're stating she was "7 years old" as fact, it would be helpful to know where this was mentioned, preferably in the original source material. It wasn't mentioned, it was implied. They stopped playing the moment their family broke up and that was when Saki was still very young. By the art of the flashback it would be hard for Saki to have been much older than 7 years old and I'm even pushing that number upward for the sake of your argument. mg021 said: the relatives could be amazingly talented, or amazingly mediocre, but unless they played professionally it doesn't matter how good they were, they would forever be unrecognized in the mahjong world. I agree with that, but would they have the strength of a professional player they wouldn't be unable to beat Saki when she was young. The first time Saki played against a pro, she got her ass handed to her and couldn't do anything. Saki and Teru are monster of the high school league but put them in the pro league and they would pale in comparison, that's just how strong pro are. |
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