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Jan 1, 3:54 AM
#1
| I just bought a 65 inch oled tv. And I'm kinda insecure right now because I wanted a 77 inch, but then realized it was kinda dumb to buy a tv that large just for anime. |
Jan 1, 3:58 AM
#2
| An old Philips TV from 2015-2016, I don't know how many inches but it's large. |
Jan 1, 4:15 AM
#4
| Is there any advantage to a TV vs a monitor and vice versa? I watch on many different screens but nothing particularly special unfortunately. |
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Jan 1, 4:19 AM
#5
| Simply a humble 900p monitor (19-20 inch) and a phone, it's comfortable enough for watching anime |
(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
Jan 1, 4:22 AM
#6
| I use my laptop to watch anime or tv shows i could do it with my phone too but small screen sucks. |
Jan 1, 4:34 AM
#7
| Philips 40 inch Class Hdtv (1080p) LED-LCD TV (40pfl5708) Being used as a second monitor off a laptop. I sit like 5 feet away so it doesn't seem that small |
Jan 1, 4:51 AM
#8
| I use a 15.4 inch laptop monitor to watch anime, if that answers your question. |
| I have approximately 1 terabyte of anime on my computer. |
Jan 1, 4:51 AM
#9
| On a tv because the streaming services have apps that work on smarTVs. Its 47 or 48 inch or whatever is the typical size I can't be bothered to measure it. 65 is huge I couldn't imagine 77 maybe for people who are legally blind. So heavy it'll just fall off your wall |
Jan 1, 5:00 AM
#10
Jan 1, 5:00 AM
#11
| Dell 24" monitor (sorry too lazy to search for exact model). I have LG 49" TV in my room but watching anime on it feels wrong so I don't use it that much for anime watching. |
Jan 1, 5:36 AM
#12
| Just my phone, 1612 x 720 pixels. |
Jan 1, 6:20 AM
#13
| I watch on either my tcl 43 inch tv or 27 inch monitor. |
Jan 1, 6:42 AM
#14
| Fire TV 55" since 2022. Dropped my laptop around that time. |
Jan 1, 6:51 AM
#15
| i try to watch on my Roku whenever i can, if not i'll use my PS4 to use "unofficial" sites. So i can watch on the big tv. |
| My waifu is the most wonderful waifu. Mai Valentine. We're freaking out that we're running out of time, but to do what? Should i stop and think of that? Is there something i could do to slow it down? Live in a day for once, instead of watch it sprinting by |
Jan 1, 7:24 AM
#16
| Just our normal TV using a Roku stick. I think it's 33", but I'm not sure. I think we bought it in about 2015. |
Jan 1, 7:26 AM
#17
| 1080 10+ year old monitor club. Don't want to know what I'm missing out on because eventually I'll get jaded with the upgrades and it'll feel the same. |
Jan 1, 6:26 PM
#18
| I originally had a old 4:3 monitor that I would hook my dvdplayer/laptop to before I had a tv. Then I found an old 20" magnavox crt tv in the woods that still worked miraculously, so I decided to watch some anime on it because I thought it would be funny. I had to replace the speaker in it and it also had the worst convergence that I've ever seen, even after I spent a long time adjusting it, but I ended up using it as my tv for over a year before something on the board shorted out and killed it. I ended up finding an old 20" lcd tv on sale at a thrift store for like $1.79 so I bought that and that's what I use now. I actually like the smaller screen because even if I watch lower quality stuff on it it still doesn't look as blurry as it does on a bigger tv. It's a good tv, i just need to find a way to adjust the overscan because occasionally the subtitles get cut off but it isn't usually a problem. I know I could easily buy a better tv but I like this more~ |
Jan 1, 6:48 PM
#19
| I got a 32" main monitor; it's an IPS display 1440p. I don't have a TV. I, originally, wanted a 4k monitor (my PC specs can handle it) but decided not too since, more than games, I consume anime and other media most of which isn't in 4k. There isn't too much loss of quality when watching FHD content on a 1440p 32" display. I am keen on getting an OLED 4k display in the future but am unsure how that will impact my media experience.... Even if I get a new display, max I will go to is 40". And if I get a TV, max will be 55". I can't imagine being able to afford rent in a place than can house a 65 or 77" TV. I mean you need ample distance to be able to have the entire display within you viewpoint. |
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Jan 1, 6:52 PM
#20
| I got a 60 something inch TV it's the only way to go i don't care to watch anything without a big screen and surround sound. |
Jan 1, 7:11 PM
#21
| I accustome to watch with my phone ( Probably I'm wouldn't prefer big screen for watching anime.) |
Jan 1, 7:25 PM
#22
| A LG - 42" Class C5 Series OLED evo AI 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2025) hooked up to an LG S40T 2.1 ch.Soundbar with Wireless Subwoofer for Audio via HDMI eARC streamed from my Xbox Series X |
Jan 1, 8:46 PM
#23
Jan 1, 8:57 PM
#24
| Just a 27 inch LG monitor. I don't own a TV because I don't watch TV. |
Jan 1, 10:06 PM
#25
| monitor, tv, and sometimes phoneㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ |
Jan 1, 11:20 PM
#26
| I use my phone at times, but mainly I hook up my macbook and dual display with my acer monitor (23 inches iirc). |
"Hard work is worthless for those that don’t believe in themselves" - Naruto Uzumaki I rate by enjoyment |
Jan 1, 11:33 PM
#27
| What screen/tv/monitor do you use to watch anime with? hianime.to: my phone Crunchyroll: my tv screen |
Jan 1, 11:35 PM
#28
| Usually my tablet. Though i also use my CRT TV to watch anime quite often, especially ones where I have the VHS tapes |
Jan 2, 4:06 AM
#29
| At least for digital anime. If you aren't watching on an OLED TV this big, at least. You are doing it wrong. I am watching anime now. I used to use tablets and phones sometimes. Not anymore. You aren't watching anime correctly unless you are using OLED and big screen tvs. Sorry poors. |
Jan 2, 4:24 AM
#30
| I just use my computer screen, which is a 17" 1440p monitor |
Jan 2, 5:29 AM
#31
| a 26" samsung I found in a dumpster people are such slobs throwing away good monitors |
Jan 2, 5:34 AM
#32
| I use a laptop screen for watching anime. It is the best screen for anime viewing. |
| I have approximately 1 terabyte of anime on my computer. |
Jan 2, 5:39 AM
#33
| Large TV, ultrawide monitor (windowed), phone, tablet, CRT. All depends on what I'm doing or where I am when I watch |
Jan 2, 5:58 AM
#34
| Washing machine screen, its nice to watch on a small display actually (lol laptop 1920x1080) |
Jan 4, 7:02 AM
#35
ComeInReiAsuka said: I just bought a 65 inch OLED TV. And I'm kinda insecure right now because I wanted a 77 inch, but then realized it was kinda dumb to buy a TV that large just for anime. Considering what you’ve made public about your viewing habits in the past, the shit doesn’t matter if the TV is 65, 77, or 1000 inches. The bottleneck is the source. LMFAO Using a 65 inch OLED to watch torrent-quality media just makes artifacts like motion stutter stand out more. Screen size only matters if you’re actually watching official Blu-rays, DVDs, or high-quality streaming. And even then, you need capable hardware to handle the shit too. lol You could have saved yourself money with a 35 or 40 inch monitor (if all you use it for is watching internet ripped Anime). Then have fewer noticeable artifacts, and extra chump change for another hard drive to store your digitally ripped quality garbage on. lol All the TVs that are wall mounted around my house are Bravia OLED 4K Smart TVs between 43 to 65 inches. But those TVs would be pointless if I was only using them to watch ripped shit off the internet. lol |
ColourWheelJan 4, 7:52 AM
Jan 4, 7:05 AM
#36
| I think it is too inconvenient to watch anime on a television. It is best to watch it on a laptop because the screen is just big enough, but the device is easily portable. Smartphones have too small of a screen to watch anime in an enjoyable manner tbh.... |
| I have approximately 1 terabyte of anime on my computer. |
Jan 4, 11:48 AM
#37
| @DeadParinda I wonder if that is actually possible? I kind of want to try it XD |
Jan 4, 11:57 AM
#38
xthewarwithinx said: I wonder if that is actually possible? I kind of want to try it XD I did something similar to a washing machine screen. Back in the mid 2010s, I "jail broke" a cheap onscreen dash monitor in a friends Toyota Yaris and used it to play youtube videos on it instead of the GPS. The screen was about 4 inches. The video looked like shit but I would bet playing any shitty quality internet ripped Anime would look nice on it anyways. lol |
Jan 4, 12:02 PM
#39
| I hook up my laptop to a 4K projector and the stereo. Pretty sweet, the screen must be around 100" the way I have it set up now. Though I miss the days of just watching it on my crappy laptop screen - good memories haha. |
Jan 4, 12:26 PM
#40
| a 20" 1600x1200 monitor. i mostly watch 4:3 anime. |
_lxnJan 4, 12:29 PM
Jan 4, 12:37 PM
#41
On an old analog oscilloscope, obviously. ![]() |
Jan 4, 12:38 PM
#42
Jan 4, 1:26 PM
#43
Reply to ColourWheel
ComeInReiAsuka said:
I just bought a 65 inch OLED TV. And I'm kinda insecure right now because I wanted a 77 inch, but then realized it was kinda dumb to buy a TV that large just for anime.
I just bought a 65 inch OLED TV. And I'm kinda insecure right now because I wanted a 77 inch, but then realized it was kinda dumb to buy a TV that large just for anime.
Considering what you’ve made public about your viewing habits in the past, the shit doesn’t matter if the TV is 65, 77, or 1000 inches. The bottleneck is the source. LMFAO
Using a 65 inch OLED to watch torrent-quality media just makes artifacts like motion stutter stand out more. Screen size only matters if you’re actually watching official Blu-rays, DVDs, or high-quality streaming. And even then, you need capable hardware to handle the shit too. lol
You could have saved yourself money with a 35 or 40 inch monitor (if all you use it for is watching internet ripped Anime). Then have fewer noticeable artifacts, and extra chump change for another hard drive to store your digitally ripped quality garbage on. lol
All the TVs that are wall mounted around my house are Bravia OLED 4K Smart TVs between 43 to 65 inches. But those TVs would be pointless if I was only using them to watch ripped shit off the internet. lol
| @ColourWheel I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching. If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion. Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime. With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action. I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive. |
szernJan 4, 1:33 PM
Jan 4, 1:39 PM
#44
| Sony 55" OLED with XR processor using the built in apps or VLC for locally stored files (most Anime is only 1080P so upscale is needed), or a 32" 1440 165Hhz monitor on my PC in the office upstairs. |
Jan 4, 2:43 PM
#45
Reply to ColourWheel
ComeInReiAsuka said:
I just bought a 65 inch OLED TV. And I'm kinda insecure right now because I wanted a 77 inch, but then realized it was kinda dumb to buy a TV that large just for anime.
I just bought a 65 inch OLED TV. And I'm kinda insecure right now because I wanted a 77 inch, but then realized it was kinda dumb to buy a TV that large just for anime.
Considering what you’ve made public about your viewing habits in the past, the shit doesn’t matter if the TV is 65, 77, or 1000 inches. The bottleneck is the source. LMFAO
Using a 65 inch OLED to watch torrent-quality media just makes artifacts like motion stutter stand out more. Screen size only matters if you’re actually watching official Blu-rays, DVDs, or high-quality streaming. And even then, you need capable hardware to handle the shit too. lol
You could have saved yourself money with a 35 or 40 inch monitor (if all you use it for is watching internet ripped Anime). Then have fewer noticeable artifacts, and extra chump change for another hard drive to store your digitally ripped quality garbage on. lol
All the TVs that are wall mounted around my house are Bravia OLED 4K Smart TVs between 43 to 65 inches. But those TVs would be pointless if I was only using them to watch ripped shit off the internet. lol
| @ColourWheel "high quality streaming" trolling streaming is the absolute worst way to watch anime. Literally everyone I've talked to tells me BD Remux is the exact same quality as actual physical blu rays themselves. You have an agenda when it comes to posting lmao. And I agree. the anime looks great. |
Jan 4, 2:44 PM
#46
Reply to szern
@ColourWheel
I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching.
If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion.
Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime.
With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action.
I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive.
I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching.
If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion.
Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime.
With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action.
I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive.
| @szern He's full of it. Every pirate community will straight up tell you BD Remux is on par with physical BDs themselves lol. |
Jan 4, 2:47 PM
#47
szern said: @ColourWheel I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching. If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion. Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime. With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action. I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive. I would have to disagree with your take here, considering I own shit to actually compare what shitty slop gets torrented. lol You’re mixing up immersion with image fidelity, and those aren’t the same fucking thing. Yes, viewing distance and room size matter for comfort and immersion. I don't think anybody would dispute that shit. But that’s a separate axis from whether a larger screen improves the viewing experience when the source itself is compromised. A bigger display does not make poor encoding “less bad”. The shit simply scales the fucking flaws with it. lol In fact, your own example accidentally supports my point: szern said: I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. Exactly. Smaller displays can mask fucking compression artifacts, banding, cadence issues, stutter, etc... especially with animation pans. Larger OLEDs do the opposite because they’re brutally fucking honest. That’s not subjective, that’s how shit like pixel density, motion handling, and panel response fucking work to begin with. lol As for anime “handling compression better”, that shit is only partially true, and only under very specific conditions. Anime is not inherently more compression-friendly, it’s simpler in motion and texture when officially mastered well. But once shit is introduce like low-bitrate encodes (shit that isn't inherently around 6gb or more in size for a 22min episode and even that is bad fidelity) you get bad IVTC/cadence errors, aggressive filtering, poor deinterlacing, and even shitter streaming re-encodes of re-encodes. Information just gets removed in the process of anything that is re-encoded down to smaller file sizes. Anime has actually always looked worse than live-action in motion. Flat colors exaggerate banding, pans exaggerate stutter, and line art exposes macroblocking instantly. Anyone who’s done serious A/B testing between Blu-ray and torrents on a large OLED has seen this shit. I have done fucking tests against this shit multiple times with official physical copies, dating back to the 2000s, since I noticed shit started being 1st torrented. lol “I can’t tell the difference between Blu-ray and good torrents” usually just means, the torrent was sourced from the Blu-ray, or the viewing setup wasn’t sensitive enough to reveal the differences and not that the differences aren’t fucking there. lol Your IMAX comparison also kind of gives the fucking game away too. People choose IMAX despite visible pixels because immersion outweighs fidelity for that experience, but that doesn’t mean the image is objectively better. It means people are prioritizing scale over precision. That’s a valid preference, but it’s not an argument against source bottlenecks. And any OLED TV is not an IMAX theater experience, no matter how much someone wants to pretend it is. lol
Once shit like the source hits that ceiling, screen size just determines how clearly it can be fucking seen at it's limits. That shit is a pretty fucking glaring distinction that you have completely glossed over covering it with a pile of dogshit. lol ComeInReiAsuka said: Literally everyone I've talked to tells me BD Remux is the exact same quality as actual physical blu rays themselves. That shit is not a good argument, that is just you outsourcing your opinions to others. The shit will only look great to you because you likely don't own enough Official physical copies of shit to notice any difference, if all you have been doing is pirating shit your entire life. lol |
ColourWheelJan 4, 3:15 PM
Jan 4, 3:11 PM
#48
| Phone. Every now and then (if I'm alone) whatever TV I have at my disposal. As a kid I was embarrassed to be an anime fan so the habit of watching it under the radar sort of stuck around into adulthood |
Jan 4, 3:15 PM
#49
Reply to ColourWheel
szern said:
@ColourWheel
I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching.
If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion.
Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime.
With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action.
I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive.
@ColourWheel
I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching.
If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion.
Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime.
With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action.
I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive.
I would have to disagree with your take here, considering I own shit to actually compare what shitty slop gets torrented. lol
You’re mixing up immersion with image fidelity, and those aren’t the same fucking thing.
Yes, viewing distance and room size matter for comfort and immersion. I don't think anybody would dispute that shit. But that’s a separate axis from whether a larger screen improves the viewing experience when the source itself is compromised. A bigger display does not make poor encoding “less bad”. The shit simply scales the fucking flaws with it. lol
In fact, your own example accidentally supports my point:
szern said:
I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues.
I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues.
Exactly. Smaller displays can mask fucking compression artifacts, banding, cadence issues, stutter, etc... especially with animation pans. Larger OLEDs do the opposite because they’re brutally fucking honest. That’s not subjective, that’s how shit like pixel density, motion handling, and panel response fucking work to begin with. lol
As for anime “handling compression better”, that shit is only partially true, and only under very specific conditions. Anime is not inherently more compression-friendly, it’s simpler in motion and texture when officially mastered well. But once shit is introduce like low-bitrate encodes (shit that isn't inherently around 6gb or more in size for a 22min episode and even that is bad fidelity) you get bad IVTC/cadence errors, aggressive filtering, poor deinterlacing, and even shitter streaming re-encodes of re-encodes. Information just gets removed in the process of anything that is re-encoded down to smaller file sizes.
Anime has actually always looked worse than live-action in motion. Flat colors exaggerate banding, pans exaggerate stutter, and line art exposes macroblocking instantly. Anyone who’s done serious A/B testing between Blu-ray and torrents on a large OLED has seen this shit. I have done fucking tests against this shit multiple times with official physical copies, dating back to the 2000s, since I noticed shit started being 1st torrented. lol
“I can’t tell the difference between Blu-ray and good torrents” usually just means, the torrent was sourced from the Blu-ray, or the viewing setup wasn’t sensitive enough to reveal the differences and not that the differences aren’t fucking there. lol
Your IMAX comparison also kind of gives the fucking game away too. People choose IMAX despite visible pixels because immersion outweighs fidelity for that experience, but that doesn’t mean the image is objectively better. It means people are prioritizing scale over precision. That’s a valid preference, but it’s not an argument against source bottlenecks. And any OLED TV is not an IMAX theater experience, no matter how much someone wants to pretend it is. lol
- Bigger screens "can" increase immersion
- Smaller screens "can" hide flaws
- Source quality sets the ceiling
Once shit like the source hits that ceiling, screen size just determines how clearly it can be fucking seen at it's limits.
That shit is a pretty fucking glaring distinction that you have completely glossed over covering it with a pile of dogshit. lol
ComeInReiAsuka said:
Literally everyone I've talked to tells me BD Remux is the exact same quality as actual physical blu rays themselves.
Literally everyone I've talked to tells me BD Remux is the exact same quality as actual physical blu rays themselves.
That shit is not a good argument, that is just you outsourcing your opinions to others. The shit will only look great to you because you likely don't own enough Official physical copies of shit to notice any difference, if all you have been doing is pirating shit your entire life. lol
ColourWheel said: That shit is not a good argument, that is just you outsourcing your opinions to others. The shit will only look great to you because you likely don't own enough Official physical copies of shit to notice any difference, if all you have been doing is pirating shit your entire life. lol So I should take your opinions seriously? The only examples of stuttering you can give me is in 2 decade + old examples lol. You can't do that for modern shit(because it doesn't actually exist). And you just argued in favor of streaming. NOBODY should take what you said seriously. |
Jan 4, 3:23 PM
#50
Reply to ColourWheel
szern said:
@ColourWheel
I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching.
If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion.
Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime.
With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action.
I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive.
@ColourWheel
I'd have to disagree here. Screen size matters regardless of content quality - it's often about the viewing distance and the space you're in. I certainly find some screens too small for certain setups, no matter what I'm watching.
If the source is poor quality, it's still a bad viewing experience on any screen - I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues. I live with someone who watches content from poor sources on a 55" 4K TV that feels a tad tiny in the space, and the quality problems are clearly visible. I'd still prefer a bigger screen there, even for mediocre 1080p Netflix. It would give much better immersion.
Interestingly, I've found source quality matters less with anime than live-action content. My theory is that animation doesn't suffer the same compression artifacts, or perhaps anime torrents are just better quality than other type of content overall. I can't tell much difference between Blu-ray and good torrents for anime - I've watched NGE, Perfect Blue, and Lain from both sources without issues. The only problem I've noticed is occasional poor audio compression with some torrents I've downloaded, but perhaps the anime just had poor audio itself originally. Also for analogue films, there are multiple restorations, and you never know quite which one you will get if you choose torrents blindly. I assume anime has been all digital from a certain point, so the source choice may matter much less for anime.
With live-action though, most streaming services I used had visible compression (Apple TV is probably best), and torrents are often badly compressed or from questionable sources. It makes me think either my brain is less bothered by anime quality issues, or animation simply handles compression better than live-action.
I can also see all the pixels when I am at IMAX screenings because you are so close to the screen - but I'd still choose IMAX for any action heavy, immersive film. Much more immersive.
I would have to disagree with your take here, considering I own shit to actually compare what shitty slop gets torrented. lol
You’re mixing up immersion with image fidelity, and those aren’t the same fucking thing.
Yes, viewing distance and room size matter for comfort and immersion. I don't think anybody would dispute that shit. But that’s a separate axis from whether a larger screen improves the viewing experience when the source itself is compromised. A bigger display does not make poor encoding “less bad”. The shit simply scales the fucking flaws with it. lol
In fact, your own example accidentally supports my point:
szern said:
I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues.
I don't think a bigger or smaller display makes much difference unless it's so low quality and too small of a size that it masks the issues.
Exactly. Smaller displays can mask fucking compression artifacts, banding, cadence issues, stutter, etc... especially with animation pans. Larger OLEDs do the opposite because they’re brutally fucking honest. That’s not subjective, that’s how shit like pixel density, motion handling, and panel response fucking work to begin with. lol
As for anime “handling compression better”, that shit is only partially true, and only under very specific conditions. Anime is not inherently more compression-friendly, it’s simpler in motion and texture when officially mastered well. But once shit is introduce like low-bitrate encodes (shit that isn't inherently around 6gb or more in size for a 22min episode and even that is bad fidelity) you get bad IVTC/cadence errors, aggressive filtering, poor deinterlacing, and even shitter streaming re-encodes of re-encodes. Information just gets removed in the process of anything that is re-encoded down to smaller file sizes.
Anime has actually always looked worse than live-action in motion. Flat colors exaggerate banding, pans exaggerate stutter, and line art exposes macroblocking instantly. Anyone who’s done serious A/B testing between Blu-ray and torrents on a large OLED has seen this shit. I have done fucking tests against this shit multiple times with official physical copies, dating back to the 2000s, since I noticed shit started being 1st torrented. lol
“I can’t tell the difference between Blu-ray and good torrents” usually just means, the torrent was sourced from the Blu-ray, or the viewing setup wasn’t sensitive enough to reveal the differences and not that the differences aren’t fucking there. lol
Your IMAX comparison also kind of gives the fucking game away too. People choose IMAX despite visible pixels because immersion outweighs fidelity for that experience, but that doesn’t mean the image is objectively better. It means people are prioritizing scale over precision. That’s a valid preference, but it’s not an argument against source bottlenecks. And any OLED TV is not an IMAX theater experience, no matter how much someone wants to pretend it is. lol
- Bigger screens "can" increase immersion
- Smaller screens "can" hide flaws
- Source quality sets the ceiling
Once shit like the source hits that ceiling, screen size just determines how clearly it can be fucking seen at it's limits.
That shit is a pretty fucking glaring distinction that you have completely glossed over covering it with a pile of dogshit. lol
ComeInReiAsuka said:
Literally everyone I've talked to tells me BD Remux is the exact same quality as actual physical blu rays themselves.
Literally everyone I've talked to tells me BD Remux is the exact same quality as actual physical blu rays themselves.
That shit is not a good argument, that is just you outsourcing your opinions to others. The shit will only look great to you because you likely don't own enough Official physical copies of shit to notice any difference, if all you have been doing is pirating shit your entire life. lol
| @ColourWheel Points taken about stutter and line art. I've not done serious A/B testing - I just know when audio or video compression bothers me personally, and I know everyone has a different threshold for seeing stuff like this and when it actually bothers them. Just saying I never personally experienced an anime torrent that actually bothered me on my projector screen (but I guess I usually for higher size torrents). I did experience a lot of bad live-action streaming and torrents though, so I just buy a ton of physical media for that (especially old stuff with new restorations). I know the uncompressed source would always win in A/B testing. I still don't think that I'd choose a smaller TV screen for my space even if I was watching poor content quality. I don't consider that a bottleneck personally, and I'm not sure most people do. I did not mean to start a debate with you about it, so I'm really sorry if my post encouraged you to take part in one. Thanks for encouraging me to learn how compressions shows on anime, I might not be able to unsee it once I know what to look for, haha |
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