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May 3, 9:56 AM
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Osani shows that she has that bright mind and being able to come up with ideas on how to deal with the arsonist. This feels like a long Summer.

Nakamaru and Kobato's relationship from this episode is also interesting. She's usually gentle and composed but kinda showed more anxiety this episode.
May 3, 10:04 AM
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Finally we’re reaching the climax of the arsonist arc and we’ll have it all answered next week. Great set up episode and my boy Kobato is FINALLY free of that cheating bitch.

Here I was last week feeling bad for Nakamura until my homie on Twitter told me to rewatch episode 3, somehow I missed the bit where she was cheating on him with multiple people. What a genuinely nasty bitch and the audacity to try and shift any sort of emotional blame on Kobato.. and the fact she’s made a habit of cheating on guys like this just to see their reactions holy shit can we use her as kindling for one of the fires?

The direction during that “breakup” scene was sooo good tho. The lighting, the distance between Nakamura and Kobato showing how they never truly connected and Kobato’s facial expression, or lack there of .. great scene and Kobato’s smirk during that entire scene is up there with speed’s “I’m not laughing” clip lmao. That’s the only thing she deserves anyway.

Since the theme of the episode was breakups I assumed Osanai’s third thing she was gonna tell Urino was that she wanted to break things off… but that’ll probably happen next episode. Hate to see it tbh because I do like them together, but you can tell Osanai not really into it the way he is :/
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May 3, 11:40 AM
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Classic female victim card , you are one to blame. Ik kobato was kinda cold but she cheated on him and he still forgives her and goes along on dates. But yea its Kobato fault hahah. And whats Osanai goal anyway? To keep Kobato entertained cuz he loves misteries or smt
May 3, 11:43 AM
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Hell Yeah! Kobato and Nakamura finally broke up!
Funny how Kobato only reacts when Osanai name is mentioned and given a nickname, Nakamura self-centered ass deserved it, she belonged in the streets!

Now Kobato can focus on the real stuff, catching Osanai red handed
or will he.
May 3, 11:43 AM
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Okay, Nakamaru sounded like a pretty "ordinary" girl in that break-up conversation. I was sure she had some secret side to her, but I guess not?

Kobato on the other hand was even less "ordinary" than usual during that scene. I thought Nakamaru would be more scared in that situation, especially when he started to walk towards her.

Two things:

Right after the Newspaper Club discovered another fire in July, Kobato is seen exchanging a text with someone (Doujima?) that the Newspaper Club failed and the mission was a success. Did I miss something? What exactly did Kobato do? I remember him a few episodes ago talking about feeding bad information, so is this related to that?

The receipt for the book that Osanai (purposefully?) left behind said June 12th, close to midnight, at the Kitaura location of the bookstore. That's the correct location and the exact time, but the day before the expected date of Friday, June 13th. Why was she there?
May 3, 11:51 AM
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Classic female victim card , you are one to blame. Ik kobato was kinda cold but she cheated on him and he still forgives her and goes along on dates. But yea its Kobato fault hahah. And whats Osanai goal anyway? To keep Kobato entertained cuz he loves misteries or smt
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you are one to blame. Ik kobato was kinda cold but she cheated on him and he still forgives her and goes along on dates.

The point was that Kobato did not forgive her. There was nothing to forgive, because he just did not care.

She clearly says that in that scene. Do you think she's wrong? Even after seeing how completely unfazed and smiley Kobato was in that scene?

She even admits that she's a terrible person, but that Kobato was messed up, too. Both of which are true. Why date a girl if you're not particularly into her? For a whole year?
May 3, 11:55 AM
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Sekiro94 said:
you are one to blame. Ik kobato was kinda cold but she cheated on him and he still forgives her and goes along on dates.

The point was that Kobato did not forgive her. There was nothing to forgive, because he just did not care.

She clearly says that in that scene. Do you think she's wrong? Even after seeing how completely unfazed and smiley Kobato was in that scene?

She even admits that she's a terrible person, but that Kobato was messed up, too. Both of which are true. Why date a girl if you're not particularly into her? For a whole year?
@perseii I Agree on your statement!
May 3, 12:10 PM
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It's time to guess before the revealing episode. Here's mine: Urino think Osanai did these (he heard the train on a phone call with her in previous episode), but the twist is that she didn't, at least not directly. She may controlling another person to do it for her but I'm not sure.
May 3, 12:20 PM
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ok I'mma keep it a buck I think the reason why Kobato is smiling in the break up scene is because he knows she is the one starting the fire (Osanai is using her), he knows everything is going to plan or he's trying to do something by smilling at her.
May 3, 12:24 PM

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It's time to guess before the revealing episode. Here's mine: Urino think Osanai did these (he heard the train on a phone call with her in previous episode), but the twist is that she didn't, at least not directly. She may controlling another person to do it for her but I'm not sure.
@phantomfandom also, the receipt of the book Osanai "forgot" in the club room shows that the store where it was bought is in the same area where the arson happened in July
May 3, 12:27 PM

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I don't think Osanai is doing the dirty work but all the evidences lead to this conclusion. although the most likely scenario is that she's making someone do the arsons for her
May 3, 12:36 PM

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Urino's friend is so obviously suspicious as Osanai. That was a weird breakup lol
Tokiko is a b*tch but she was right about everything that she said about Kobato.
Osanai gave herself away to Urino finally which I guess is part of her plan.
Can't wait to see how things are gonna unfold in the next episode.
May 3, 12:37 PM
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I like this scenario, where his now Ex is the actual arsonist, but Osani is aware, or even controlling her. Honestly thought there would be one, even in the typhoon, but that would be silly, wouldn't it?
May 3, 12:37 PM

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Osani shows that she has that bright mind and being able to come up with ideas on how to deal with the arsonist. This feels like a long Summer.

Nakamaru and Kobato's relationship from this episode is also interesting. She's usually gentle and composed but kinda showed more anxiety this episode.
@Stark700 b*tch deserved. Kobato is not your average kind of guy lol
May 3, 1:04 PM
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They want to mislead us into thinking is Osanai, but I think is Urino's friend
May 3, 1:06 PM
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I like this scenario, where his now Ex is the actual arsonist, but Osani is aware, or even controlling her. Honestly thought there would be one, even in the typhoon, but that would be silly, wouldn't it?
@Sheol01 I can see that being the case as Osanai likes to take revenge on people that mess with her somehow, like finding out Nakamura was playing with Kobato or something. I think tho the real mastermind is Urino's friend and Osanai just took advantage of it to burn the van. We'll hopefully see it next ep.
May 3, 1:08 PM
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pretty sure Kobato and Osamai are psychopaths
May 3, 1:22 PM

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I'm a little confused on why there are some people so sure that Nakamaru is the one causing the fires??? Did I miss something?? I see no connection nor evidence of Osanai and Nakamaru being in direct contact with each other so I'm lost on why some people think Osanai is "controling" Nakamaru to do the arson.

Changing topics, I looooved the break up scene. We can clearly see how not ordinary Kobato is, even a little creepy and scary with the smirk and the way he slowly walked towards Nakamaru.

The pacing in this episode was amazing, 20 minutes went by in a second!
May 3, 1:30 PM
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Dazai_Bakugo said:
They want to mislead us into thinking is Osanai, but I think is Urino's friend

there's also Nakamura, this 3 are sus.
May 3, 1:34 PM
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They want to mislead us into thinking is Osanai, but I think is Urino's friend

there's also Nakamura, this 3 are sus.
@LucianF I think Osanai, more than being involved with the culprit, is looking for ways to involve Kobato. But I agree that Nakamura is also sus.
May 3, 2:17 PM

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I'm a little confused on why there are some people so sure that Nakamaru is the one causing the fires??? Did I miss something?? I see no connection nor evidence of Osanai and Nakamaru being in direct contact with each other so I'm lost on why some people think Osanai is "controling" Nakamaru to do the arson.

Changing topics, I looooved the break up scene. We can clearly see how not ordinary Kobato is, even a little creepy and scary with the smirk and the way he slowly walked towards Nakamaru.

The pacing in this episode was amazing, 20 minutes went by in a second!
tsukoyo said:
I'm a little confused on why there are some people so sure that Nakamaru is the one causing the fires??? Did I miss something??

Not just you. I also can't think of any evidence or even a hint of Nakamaru and Osanai being in contact. Especially in context of the arson case.

All I know is that they're aware of each other's existence as someone Kobato was/is in a "relationship" with. But that doesn't really mean anything.

The show can still make Nakamaru the culprit without creating any inconsistencies, but it would be coming out of nowhere and deeply unsatisfying for me...
May 3, 2:34 PM

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It's time to guess before the revealing episode. Here's mine: Urino think Osanai did these (he heard the train on a phone call with her in previous episode), but the twist is that she didn't, at least not directly. She may controlling another person to do it for her but I'm not sure.
phantomfandom said:
Urino think Osanai did these (he heard the train on a phone call with her in previous episode), but the twist is that she didn't, at least not directly. She may controlling another person to do it for her but I'm not sure.

You're so right. Urino is not stupid, he definitely would've picked up on those hints.

There's the fact that Osanai told Urino several times that he might be taking this investigation too far. There's that hallway conversation with the attempted kiss, he may have sensed something off there. And Urino may have taken the bookstore receipts as Osanai teasing him to come catch her.

I think Urino will eventually confront or accuse Osanai about the arson, but end up not being able to prove it. It's even possible that Osanai will uno-reverse that and get Urino in trouble; she's definitely not happy with this guy and will have no qualms about ruining him.
May 3, 2:56 PM

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interesting ep


i'm sure that we already saw was is the culprit on the sceen

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May 3, 3:31 PM
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Ok everything is ready. Plans are set to be carried out. The arsonist will be caught next ep probably?


Also yeah Nakamura and Kobato broke up. Was interesting seeing them talk but Kobato gave really no fucks about her yeah. Anyways though now that's over Kobato can focus on the arson case.
May 3, 4:52 PM

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Kobato is just nonchalant like that
May 3, 5:31 PM
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I have a question, why does jogoro hate being called jou and why was namakaru smiling when she called him jou. I know that was two so shut up ! 😂. is it because she got a reaction from jogoro aside from her mentioning osanai ? hmmmmmmmmm
May 3, 6:25 PM
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@Sheol01 I can see that being the case as Osanai likes to take revenge on people that mess with her somehow, like finding out Nakamura was playing with Kobato or something. I think tho the real mastermind is Urino's friend and Osanai just took advantage of it to burn the van. We'll hopefully see it next ep.
@realkevin95 This is my other leading hypothesis. Actually, the way that guy was hanging around him, it was giving me weird vibes.
May 3, 6:32 PM

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Tokiko really had the balls to say that Kobato sucks when she was the one cheating, huh. Not surprised
The case is coming to a close, I'm hyped

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May 3, 6:40 PM

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I have a question, why does jogoro hate being called jou and why was namakaru smiling when she called him jou. I know that was two so shut up ! 😂. is it because she got a reaction from jogoro aside from her mentioning osanai ? hmmmmmmmmm
@AniFred1 It's not that weird that you don't want to get called by some lovey-dovey couple nickname. I think it's usually just embarrassment.

But what's interesting is how Kobato refused that nickname right from when they first started dating. And he refused her again in their final conversation.

It could be interpreted as Kobato not really allowing anyone in, even after a year of dating. Nakamaru specifically says Kobato "never changed."

Like you say, Nakamaru probably wanted to see him a little embarrassed, just once. A "crack on his (smiling) facade." She also probably wanted him to make a concession, let her do this one small thing that he doesn't like. She didn't get that in the end.
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Dazai_Bakugo said:
They want to mislead us into thinking is Osanai, but I think is Urino's friend

I'm very confident that it's his friend.
May 3, 9:40 PM

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I don't know about monster Nakamaru but if you're a bitch.... I've met a lot of people with that same “I'm in a relationship but I need to have physical relationships with others” attitude, both men and women. To me, that's linked to emotional and moral imbalance.
The saddest thing is that they know what they are doing is wrong, but they justify it by pointing out the other person's flaws to downplay their own. In this case, she is the one saying, “I'm a bad person, but so are you.” What matters is that Kobato is finally free. Goodbye, bitch. We all wish for Kobato's serenity and peace of mind at that moment.

All this also helps to understand Kobato better: his personality, his emotional detachment. He spent a year with that girl and did not develop a single real feeling. He broke up with her with the same fake smile. And just like Nakamaru said, he really seems to feel superior to others. Osanai and him are meant for each other.

It seems like it's all coming to an end, and if I'm not mistaken, Urino must think that the arsonist is Osanai. Especially with that bottle he deliberately left behind. I can't wait to see how he smashes it.
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perseii said:
Sekiro94 said:
you are one to blame. Ik kobato was kinda cold but she cheated on him and he still forgives her and goes along on dates.

The point was that Kobato did not forgive her. There was nothing to forgive, because he just did not care.

She clearly says that in that scene. Do you think she's wrong? Even after seeing how completely unfazed and smiley Kobato was in that scene?

She even admits that she's a terrible person, but that Kobato was messed up, too. Both of which are true. Why date a girl if you're not particularly into her? For a whole year?

to be ordinary...
that's the whole point of the show.
May 3, 10:52 PM
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osonai and kobato are just meant for each other
May 4, 12:21 AM

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I think Osanai is just the obvious red herring. She's the mastermind no doubt, but Urino's friend always gave me weird vibes. I think there's a high chance of him being the actual arsonist.
May 4, 12:57 AM

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They finally break up..
I'm looking forward to see the real arsonist.
May 4, 2:24 AM
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weird ppl, can they just act normal for one time?
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May 4, 3:23 AM
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The arson escalates as Uranino's rules spark it, Hiyori supports him while Osanai gives advice as bonds shift. Kobato's relationship ends as his girlfriend finds out he doesn't care about her. So the stakes are high as everyone tries to catch the arsonist.
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Okay, Nakamaru sounded like a pretty "ordinary" girl in that break-up conversation. I was sure she had some secret side to her, but I guess not?

Kobato on the other hand was even less "ordinary" than usual during that scene. I thought Nakamaru would be more scared in that situation, especially when he started to walk towards her.

Two things:

Right after the Newspaper Club discovered another fire in July, Kobato is seen exchanging a text with someone (Doujima?) that the Newspaper Club failed and the mission was a success. Did I miss something? What exactly did Kobato do? I remember him a few episodes ago talking about feeding bad information, so is this related to that?

The receipt for the book that Osanai (purposefully?) left behind said June 12th, close to midnight, at the Kitaura location of the bookstore. That's the correct location and the exact time, but the day before the expected date of Friday, June 13th. Why was she there?
perseii said:
Right after the Newspaper Club discovered another fire in July, Kobato is seen exchanging a text with someone (Doujima?) that the Newspaper Club failed and the mission was a success.

Yes, it's Doujima, you can briefly see their previous chat on the phone screen.
May 4, 4:35 AM

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Okay, now that was literally the most brutal cliffhanger this anime could've possibly pulled—like, come on. The cliffhangers in the first few episodes were just meh, since everyone was still in the middle of investigating. But this time? It was done. Like, everyone was so eager in catching Yuki, come on!

Cliffhanger aside, at the end of the day, I totally called it a few episodes ago—it was starting to look way too obvious. Everyone’s working on their own thing or investigating something, and Yuki’s just there talking about cakes and sh!t, which is clearly just a cover for what she keeps asking Takahiko about afterwards. But because of either his stupidity or the fact that he’s love-blinded by Yuki. She had to drop something as a clue for him to realize, omg.

Yuki aside, I finally understood what Jougorou and Kengo had Kimiya do within the newspaper club—they planted him within the newspaper club as their inside spy to feed them information. That was confirmed when Jougorou said, “Kimiya said there are gonna be 14 people on patrol”. So yeah, I mean, it was kind of obvious he was their spy, but this is the first time Jougorou actually revealed something Kimiya said out loud, so yeah.

Kimiya aside, there are still two things I don’t understand. First, the “trap” Jougorou mentioned to Kengo—could it be related to Kengo randomly calling him at 9:15 AM? Jougorou was just chilling at home, while Kengo was in some random dark, deserted place with no lights whatsoever. I don’t know. Either way, the next episode is probably going to be the conclusion of this arc, so I’m definitely interested in seeing how it wraps up.
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and now my man Kobato is free and now i hope that Osanai can be with her man Kobato again.

Hiya is soooo fricking sus man it makes me sick, Nakamura i don't know abt her but she sus too, Itsukaichi also made me suspicious about him recently.

man...next episode would be lit asl, CANT WAIT!!
May 4, 8:29 AM

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Typical of women, to be wrong, to be caught cheating and still try to outsource the blame and play the victim, art really does imitate real life... I thought Kobato was a cuck, but this was a good way for him to go out, he showed himself to be superior and unwavering towards her, showing that she's just a pussy that everyone uses whenever they want, she has no emotional value for him.

Great cliffhanger, but I don't think it will end in the next episode.

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Glad to see I’m not the only one wondering why people are sus of Nakamura. Makes no sense.
May 4, 9:32 AM
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Yeesh, yeah Kobato is pretty weird what is up with that smirk? And wow, what's with the hate for Nakamaru? She admitted she was a horrible person, something Kobato would have known even before they started dating if he cared even a little bit to find out anything about her. Brings me back to the tomato scene, he went through that elaborate deduction to figure out if she liked tomatoes or not instead of just asking "Do you not like tomatoes?", yeah good luck on being ordinary because you still suck at it.
Well everyone seems to think it's Osanai behind the fires, but did anyone else catch the name of the shop she wanted to go to? She said when they reopened they changed their name to Tinker Tailor. I don't think it is a coincidence that there is an early 1970's movie called Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, and it's about a Soviet double agent. So is Osanai the "double agent" or is it someone else? Or is she just already on to Kobato's double agent in the club and trying to warn Urino? Perhaps there is a different "double agent"? His friend always seems to have an excuse to not be around to help him catch the arsonist but always give him hints how to do it himself...
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The breakup scene was great! I had not been invested in their relationship at all (so, with Kobato, that makes at least two of us), but with the failed deduction last week, this is the other good thing to come out of it.

Things are heating up on the arsonist front, I'm looking forward to next week so we can catch the guy in the act! I'll admit I'm completely lost on who it might be, because I feel like Osanai is just too obvious an answer. I think she's been doing some maneuvering behind the scenes and maybe leaving clues for Urino to help him solve the case, but I doubt she's the culprit, it just wouldn't be very satisfying. Right now, I'm leaning toward the handsome best friend who goes to cram school; I think it's his outlet to let off steam.
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Apparently Osanai is getting revenge on Urino for trying to steal a kiss from her, by tricking Urino into concluding that Osanai is the culprit
May 4, 11:16 AM

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Ahh I've really loved this arc but I'm very excited to see how it'll all play out next episode. Also as an aside it's funny reading so many incel fuelled comments towards Nakamaru that at the same time completely ignore the sociopathic behaviour coming out of Jougorou.
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It's funny how Kobato being indifferent towards Nakamura drove her crazy as she wanted a reaction, I'm glad he stood his ground and basically said he didn't care without saying it. With that out of the way I think that Osanai set up Urino to convince him that she's the arsonist but it will most likely be someone else, and if it's a female I'm not sure who it would be, maybe Yoshiguchi as a swerve. I don't have much of a case against her but she could claim she wanted one of the guy's attention and got a thrill setting up the fires and got encouragement by someone like Osanai, we'll see.
May 5, 9:19 AM

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Tokiko is a ceritified bitch and she finally broke after she didn't get the reaction she waited for didn't come. However she has one thing right, this smile is not a normal person smile:

I really wonder what is Osanai's gameplan is, especially after planting the idea that she's the arsonist to Urino.
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wow so Kobato just didn't care one bit, yeah that's pretty cold
but she didn't deserve any better
it is pretty obvious he's still hung up on Osanai (probably not even in a romantic way), so far she was the only one who could match his genious

it's funny watching Osanai trying to be as suspicious as possible in front of Urnio, she's leading him by his nose, question is: to where?
the most suspicious person is Urino's friend, he has some very detailed information about the acts of arsons, for someone who's always in cram school and never available at the times of the arsons
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I believe Osanai really cared for Urino, like a pet, that’s why she’s trying to support his ambitions in the newspaper club. But, I think she also believe Urino is too innocent in catching the Serial Arsonist who could be really dangerous. She really did try to dissuade from pursuing the Arsonist and wanted an "ordinary person", but Urino don’t want to listen.

So she put into herself to catch the Serial Arsonist. Much like Hannibal Lecter, it takes a psychopath to catch psycopath. As we see in first season Osanai is ruthless when she wanted to catch her pray.

Of course this would leave Urino to think that Osanai is the suspect, after all those suspicious clues of going late at night. Naturally, Kobato is much smarter and probably knew who the real Arsonist is, in-spite of that.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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