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Jun 27, 2014 12:36 AM
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Oh my goodness, Gray. I hope he knows what he's doing cause all hell is about to break loose.

The "I am your Father" moment gave me a Star Wars vibe. But welp, look who is back...
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Gotta give major credit to the people on here who guessed it was Deliora using Gray's father's body as a vessel. Seriously, nicely done. :D

Chapter was enjoyable, enjoyed the length and getting to see multiple different fronts. I thought it kinda humorous that Wendy still had long hair in the color spread. :D
Jun 27, 2014 12:47 AM
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People actually guessed that? Because I so did not see that coming in the slightest... though I do like the development
Jun 27, 2014 12:50 AM
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Wow that was actually unexpected, but I don't really know how to feel about Deliora using Silver's body.
Jun 27, 2014 12:51 AM
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@Iris I'm not completely sure if it was here or another board I visit but I definitely remember reading the theory somewhere. As I was reading the chapter I was like "Oh you gotta be kidding me..." because they got it entirely right. I too woulda never guessed. :D
Jun 27, 2014 12:51 AM
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Great chapter. Did not expect Deliora to be alive and use Gray's dad as a vessel.
Gray just went berserk at the end.
I have have feeling he may use ice-shell just like Ur to stop him.
Lol at Minerva ripping the mushroom demon off Happy's head.
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Jun 27, 2014 12:53 AM
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SUMMER BOYS FOR THE WIN"!!!!

NICE TURNS OF EVENT!!!!!!!!


THE ARTS!!!!! THE ARTS!!!! SO GORGEOUS!!!!!!!


p.s: silver's body is hot!!!!!!!
Jun 27, 2014 12:59 AM
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Well played Mashima... Well played

5/5
Jun 27, 2014 1:06 AM
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Oho the return of Deliora.

I still think thats a hilarious name lol deliora deliora deliora giggles everyteim
Jun 27, 2014 1:14 AM

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Silver is actually Deliora using Gray's father's corpse as a vessel, also meaning Ur's sacrifice was vain... The best chapter in this arc so far, easily. Mashima please don't screw up the fight...

So why didn't Natsu notice that Cana and Gildarts smell similar if he could tell that Gray and Silver do?

5/5 Man its been a long time since Fairy tail deserved a 5/5 rating.
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WOW Fairy Tail is just being outstanding lately...great art and story Mashima-sensei.
Gray going berserk in next chapter and may be Juvia will go to help him
Jun 27, 2014 1:15 AM

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That was great! I didn't expect that Deliora was behind that. Gray is on rampage and so Juvia, but I hope everything will turn out fine for them.
Jun 27, 2014 1:19 AM

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Self-sacrifice never works out well in Mashima's works(Rave had some of the most horrifying and cruel examples of that). He by nature is quite a fatalistic writer and even though Fairy Tail is far more "happier" and lighter than his previous works, it still shows.

In this case just as Wendy failed to stop the face, we find out that Ur's sacrifice was pointless AND Gray has to face his biggest fear residing in the corpse of his father. This will be hilarious mindfuck.
Jun 27, 2014 1:29 AM

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Wow Mashima! For once, that wasn't predictable!
I can't wait for more character development. Gray needs it.
Jun 27, 2014 1:35 AM

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Fairy tail is awesome!!
Natsu's team goes to battle the 3 tartaros !!
On to the Faces!!
Well.. ITS Deliora's return!! damn.. Ice too much!!
Shit.. its like Ur's sacrifice was useless ... Damn it ..
GRAY IS ... MAD .. He lost it .. anger and hatred .. too deep .
Great Chapter!!!
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I wonder if Hiro is setting up things for Juvia sacrificing herself for Gray. Yeah I know it is Fairy Tail and Hiro never have somebody died in Fairy Tail but this time can be different. From what I can tell, Lucy still have Aquarius powers which is water. If Aquarius powers stay with Lucy for the rest of the manga then there is no need for two water mages in Fairy Tail. Hiro might actually (probably not) have Juvia die in the upcoming chapters.
Jun 27, 2014 1:48 AM

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I was expecting Silver to be related to either Gray or Ul (he had an uncle vibe or something like that), but ... fine.

WisdomofSolomon said:
So why didn't Natsu notice that Cana and Gildarts smell similar if he could tell that Gray and Silver do?


Because Gildarts smells like an ossan whereas Cana smells like a young sexy woman covered with a lot of sake. Hard to relate them.
Jun 27, 2014 1:56 AM
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I had a feeling that Deliora was related to Tartarus....but I thought it was mook or something.That wouldn't explain why he was so absurdly strong,unlike Lullaby.

Shoot,I completely forgot about hell's core.

This chapter explain why SIlver's magic resembles Iced shell.Deliora mimicked Ur.But then why could Gray manipulate his ice like he did against Doriarte...Well,he is an Ice maker.I suppose this is reason enough.

I see...he was looking for a corpse.I imagine he is like Franmalth,he lacked a human form.

Shit,Gray is absolutely no match for him.If only Lyon was there.Lol,I can imagine him showing up next chapter,alongside that healer girl.

Then whose grave was that?I doubt the bastard dug a grave for himself.If he is possessing Gray's father,than perhaps some semblance of his will still inhabits that body.No...Need to wait.
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At first, I was pretty pissed when Silver confirmed that he was Gray's father. I really thought it was stupid for the arc to be named "Father and Son" to confirm that before it actually was revealed in the manga.

However, that Deliora twist was simply brilliantly executed. Major props Mashima for not going the true father/son route.

Geez though, this is really picking up now. How's Gray gonna deal with this? D:
Jun 27, 2014 2:17 AM

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I would have prefered

Zero : Not so fast Gray !
Gray : Zero !
Zero : Before you die there is one thing you should know about us, Gray.
Gray : What?
Zero : I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate !
Gray : ... What that makes us?
Zero : Absolutely nothing !
Jun 27, 2014 2:19 AM

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That was an excellent twist, amazing chapter this arc is getting better and better. Hiro be redeeming himself from the grand magic games arc with this.
Jun 27, 2014 2:20 AM

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Oh boy, Deliora huh.
Gray is gonna go nuts.
Nicely done Mashima.
Jun 27, 2014 2:20 AM
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It seems Mashima watched the doctor who episode "the satan pit". for those who don't know it's the episode where the 10th doctor fight the devil, the consciousmess of the beast took over a human body and let his body who is restrained behind but the body can move because even if its conciousness isn't in its body it is always linked to it, it's the same thing in this chapter, Deliora let its body behind which had only its basic brain functions and his consciouness was linked to it, when its body was destroyed it cut the link.
Jun 27, 2014 2:31 AM

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At first I was kind of disappointed when Silver was telling Gray he was his father since it was expected, but wow, that was really a great twist with Deliora! I am worried for Gray and Lyon though, and I wonder how Juvia will react. Also, I'd say that Minerva has officially turned good. Although she probably already had when Erza spared her and Sabertooth showed up. I have really loved this whole Tartarus Arc so far!
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Nicely done indeed. It started to get kinda obvious when the chap started but i never expected it before this chap. Good twist.

And lol so much at Happy's mushroom pull hahaha
Jun 27, 2014 2:56 AM

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Super disappointing chapter that was only salvaged by the brief nalu moment. Way to render Ul's sacrifice entirely pointless too. Dammit Mashima you had a glorious opportunity

Beatrice-KF said:
I was expecting Silver to be related to either Gray or Ul (he had an uncle vibe or something like that), but ... fine.

WisdomofSolomon said:
So why didn't Natsu notice that Cana and Gildarts smell similar if he could tell that Gray and Silver do?


Because Gildarts smells like an ossan whereas Cana smells like a young sexy woman covered with a lot of sake. Hard to relate them.


You know that's bullshit. cana wasn't drinking when she was a kid and Gildarts last showed up at the guild. There's no excuse. Mashima fucked up and squandered a golden opportunity.
Jun 27, 2014 3:10 AM

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Well my gess that Silver wasn't really Gray father was right, but to be Deliora! amazing!

Awesome chapter, the twin dragons as i said are having their hand gull with King of Hades and Natsu is enjoying the battle as always before being serious ahah

In some way Gray will be able to defeat Deliora alone i think, it's revenge for him after all, and it's time to Fairy Tail to have the upper hand so Natsu, Gajeel and Juvia should win that match fast!

Btw it's time to see why Makarov was so worried and some more Wendy!

Jun 27, 2014 3:21 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
Super disappointing chapter that was only salvaged by the brief nalu moment. Way to render Ul's sacrifice entirely pointless too. Dammit Mashima you had a glorious opportunity

Beatrice-KF said:
I was expecting Silver to be related to either Gray or Ul (he had an uncle vibe or something like that), but ... fine.



Because Gildarts smells like an ossan whereas Cana smells like a young sexy woman covered with a lot of sake. Hard to relate them.


You know that's bullshit. cana wasn't drinking when she was a kid and Gildarts last showed up at the guild. There's no excuse. Mashima fucked up and squandered a golden opportunity.


http://i.imgur.com/S4KEDQ7.jpg
Jun 27, 2014 3:23 AM

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myanime2 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Super disappointing chapter that was only salvaged by the brief nalu moment. Way to render Ul's sacrifice entirely pointless too. Dammit Mashima you had a glorious opportunity



You know that's bullshit. cana wasn't drinking when she was a kid and Gildarts last showed up at the guild. There's no excuse. Mashima fucked up and squandered a golden opportunity.


http://i.imgur.com/S4KEDQ7.jpg


Sorry but no. I'm one of FT's biggest defenders but the bullshit of this so called twist is iredeemable
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Totally was not expecting it to be Deliora omg
Jun 27, 2014 3:29 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
myanime2 said:


http://i.imgur.com/S4KEDQ7.jpg


Sorry but no. I'm one of FT's biggest defenders but the bullshit of this so called twist is iredeemable



it will explain later on!!!!so just wait! o wait , it was a bit explained that deliora revived with the help of hells core using silver's "HOT" body.


p.s: if you mean silver help natsu and lisanna in the cell, he calls lisanna a princess,and the controversial grave visiting, maybe silver has a split personality,maybe the true silver's conscious is still there, just like the mother of roya in the anime KIBA!, 2 personality in 1 body!!!!!!!!!!
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myanime2 said:
Darklight0303 said:


Sorry but no. I'm one of FT's biggest defenders but the bullshit of this so called twist is iredeemable



it will explain later on!!!!so just wait! o wait , it was a bit explained that deliora revived with the help of hells core using silver's "HOT" body.


Does not explain how Natsu conveniently can suddenly act as a paternity test NOW but not when Cana first joined. That is a plothole he can't cover up. The whole twist is bullshit and that's the end of story
Jun 27, 2014 3:35 AM
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Darklight0303 said:
myanime2 said:



it will explain later on!!!!so just wait! o wait , it was a bit explained that deliora revived with the help of hells core using silver's "HOT" body.


Does not explain how Natsu conveniently can suddenly act as a paternity test NOW but not when Cana first joined. That is a plothole he can't cover up. The whole twist is bullshit and that's the end of story


okay, if your pissed, just drop the manga. period!
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myanime2 said:
Darklight0303 said:


Does not explain how Natsu conveniently can suddenly act as a paternity test NOW but not when Cana first joined. That is a plothole he can't cover up. The whole twist is bullshit and that's the end of story


okay, if your pissed, just drop the manga. period!


I'm not gonna do that. I'll still call bullshit.
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Darklight0303 said:
myanime2 said:


okay, if your pissed, just drop the manga. period!


I'm not gonna do that. I'll still call bullshit.


mmmmmmmmmm..... okay then

p.s: if you mean silver help natsu
and lisanna in the cell, he calls
lisanna a princess,and the
controversial grave visiting, maybe
silver has a split
personality,maybe the true silver's
conscious is still there, just like
the mother of roya in the anime
KIBA!, 2 personality in 1
body!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 27, 2014 3:39 AM
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myanime2 said:
Darklight0303 said:


I'm not gonna do that. I'll still call bullshit.


mmmmmmmmmm..... okay then

p.s: if you mean silver help natsu
and lisanna in the cell, he calls
lisanna a princess,and the
controversial grave visiting, maybe
silver has a split
personality,maybe the true silver's
conscious is still there, just like
the mother of roya in the anime
KIBA!, 2 personality in 1
body!!!!!!!!!!


about the cana thing, maybe natsu can't smell their same scent because we all know gildarts always travel, besides, cana grow up with her mother side and gildarts didnt even know he has a child , unlike silver where gray grew up with her family!....
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No wonder Silver is so powerful. He is actually Deliora.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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myanime2 said:


about the cana thing, maybe natsu can't smell their same scent because we all know gildarts always travel, besides, cana grow up with her mother side and gildarts didnt even know he has a child , unlike silver where gray grew up with her family!....


Except Gray spent a good few years with Ultear so his scent would have changed too. It doesn't work. Mashima opened up for himself one mother of a plothole and that's the end of story. He ain't perfect. I never claimed he was even when defending so this right here is one HUGE mistake.
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Holy shit...I am your father....and At the Same time...Deliora!!!! Yep that is official, Gray Lost it.

This will be official final fight between Deliora and Gray...and the moment where Gray surpasses the Ur!!!
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Jarjaxle said:
Holy shit...I am your father....and At the Same time...Deliora!!!! Yep that is official, Gray Lost it.

This will be official final fight between Deliora and Gray...and the moment where Gray surpasses the Ur!!!


I should hope not. He's not on Ul's level
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Darklight0303 said:
myanime2 said:


about the cana thing, maybe natsu can't smell their same scent because we all know gildarts always travel, besides, cana grow up with her mother side and gildarts didnt even know he has a child , unlike silver where gray grew up with her family!....


Except Gray spent a good few years with Ultear so his scent would have changed too. It doesn't work. Mashima opened up for himself one mother of a plothole and that's the end of story. He ain't perfect. I never claimed he was even when defending so this right here is one HUGE mistake.


you mean ul? not ultear right? mmmmmmmmmmm......... maybe silver pregnate ul.hahahahaha, anx silver chose his 1st family of course!!!!!!!!!! i don't know why but maybe dragon slayers , especially natsu has a one hax of a dragon smell!hahahahaja



blame natsu's nose!
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I can't tell if this chapter is good or not.

I don't like the idea of making Ul sacrifice pointless.

Plus why would Silver know Natsu? makes no sense. And about the smell thing I have to agree a bit, it's curious. And why does he use ice magic?
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Darklight0303 said:
Jarjaxle said:
Holy shit...I am your father....and At the Same time...Deliora!!!! Yep that is official, Gray Lost it.

This will be official final fight between Deliora and Gray...and the moment where Gray surpasses the Ur!!!


I should hope not. He's not on Ul's level



i actually enjoy gray's fight more than natsu! so i'll be happy if gray wins with struggle using iced shell
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short_review said:
I can't tell if this chapter is good or not.

I don't like the idea of making Ul sacrifice pointless.

Plus why would Silver know Natsu? makes no sense. And about the smell thing I have to agree a bit, it's curious. And why does he use ice magic?


Not to mention if Silver is Deliora why the hell would he care about Lisanna being naked. Mashima has messed up with this twist big time. there's no two ways about it

myanime2 said:
Darklight0303 said:


I should hope not. He's not on Ul's level



i actually enjoy gray's fight more than natsu! so i'll be happy if gray wins with struggle using iced shell


I will too. Cause then Gray will be dead
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wait..if every member is a demon from inside
then, that mean minerva is also a demon from inside ? so she will sacrifice herself in the end ?
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Darklight0303 said:
short_review said:
I can't tell if this chapter is good or not.

I don't like the idea of making Ul sacrifice pointless.

Plus why would Silver know Natsu? makes no sense. And about the smell thing I have to agree a bit, it's curious. And why does he use ice magic?


Not to mention if Silver is Deliora why the hell would he care about Lisanna being naked. Mashima has messed up with this twist big time. there's no two ways about it

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i actually enjoy gray's fight more than natsu! so i'll be happy if gray wins with struggle using iced shell


I will too. Cause then Gray will be dead



dude, maybe deliora likes to own a lady calling them princess, deliora knows natsu because of zeref, zeref made deliora, thus zeref and the demon knows natsu, silveror deliora has a split personality( the kind and true silver)............ duh
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It's obvious! Silver is Gray's father. Though I was surprise that Deliora was the demon inhabiting Silver's body. So it all connects.

Next chapter, Gray vs Silver! It's gonna be awesome!
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myanime2 said:
Darklight0303 said:


Not to mention if Silver is Deliora why the hell would he care about Lisanna being naked. Mashima has messed up with this twist big time. there's no two ways about it



I will too. Cause then Gray will be dead



dude, maybe deliora likes to own a lady calling them princess, deliora knows natsu because of zeref, zeref made deliora, thus zeref and the demon knows natsu, silveror deliora has a split personality( the kind and true silver)............ duh


oh, and when deliora takes over silver's body, he study on how to counter any ice magic ,,, or when the true silver's consciousness back, he study how to learn ice devil slayer to defeat all the demons and how to defeat deliora on himself!
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short_review said:
I can't tell if this chapter is good or not.

I don't like the idea of making Ul sacrifice pointless.

Plus why would Silver know Natsu? makes no sense. And about the smell thing I have to agree a bit, it's curious. And why does he use ice magic?
Natsu briefly fought Deliora at Galuna Island
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miskos3 said:
short_review said:
I can't tell if this chapter is good or not.

I don't like the idea of making Ul sacrifice pointless.

Plus why would Silver know Natsu? makes no sense. And about the smell thing I have to agree a bit, it's curious. And why does he use ice magic?
Natsu briefly fought Deliora at Galuna Island


Nope according to this chapter he possessed the body during the attack meaning he wasn't inside the shell by the point he was at Galuna
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