| i DO NOT ask this as someone who can't acept that people don't like what I like. I am FINE with people not liking Angel Beats. I am just really curious of the exact reasons why people hate/dislike the show. Please be as specificas possible! Also, do you feel YuiHinata was forced or adorable/ I see a little of both ._. Hearing opposing view points is really fun! OP, Why are you so obsessed with trhis short 2010 show? Hm, it givesme lots of creative inspiration, me tihnks. |
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| Because it was rushed |
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| Most people here love Angel Beats... I hate it. The anime tried too hard to make you cry. It was just bad. The plot was weak. Oh, so we're all immortal? Plz... The most interesting part was the protagonist's backstory, which is a shame for the anime. The final scene is ridiculous. The characters are one dimensional. The music is painful to hear. The jokes are overused. They are also not funny. The art is fine, but only the art. |
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| It was rushed. It could have been much better. People hate on a lot of things and don't need a reason. |
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| RUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Lack of Character development for side characters can be a reason too |
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| I think it's mostly because of the pacing and constant infodumps/insufficient explanation of important plot details. I personally felt that the series had MUCH more potential as well (since the premise is admittedly quite unique), but it tried to do too many things at once with too little airing time to work with. |
| There's little to no context for the moments that they're trying to sell as emotional most of the time. It's like playing extremely sad music and then showing a loli crying and screaming "NOW CRY WITH HER." Why? With that said though, I gave it a 7 for a reason and I think it had everything else going for it save for the rushed drama which turned into melodrama. |
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| Needed more than just 12 episodes... In other words it was too rushed |
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| Rushed and terrible adaptation. |
| It has a weak plot. |
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Sung-Hwan said: Nobody "hates" Angel Beats FYI. I beg to differ. |
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| Didn't care for episodic structure and how seemingly unfocused it was, didn't find the plot, characters, or setting particularly interesting, and felt the drama/ sad parts were forced. Although the beer bottle scene is absolute gold. |
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| interesting premise, poor execution. happens a lot these days. |
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Fundog said: It has too many characters, but the hate is unwarranted, but hey that's MAL. Watch Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon then complain about there being "too many characters" x] |
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| I don't dislike it, but I dislike the way it ended. And by that I mean it needed more episodes to explore the other characters. |
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| i forget....... Angel Beats was one of my entry anime. I don't hate it. I thought it was okay |
| I don't hate it but the ending was really rushed and didn't deliver the emotional impact it was clearly trying to provide at all. I mean it was intended to be a longer show initially and you could really see that it should have been. |
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| The dude brings it like MAL is the only case. Great anime though. |
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Fundog said: Objurgo said: Fundog said: It has too many characters, but the hate is unwarranted, but hey that's MAL. Watch Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon then complain about there being "too many characters" x] I'd rather it have less characters with the same amount of episodes, then more episodes and the same amount of characters. The length was sufficient for the story. Except the story was supposed to be about these characters getting over their pasts; it's more of a character driven show so the length depends on the characters not the plot. With that in mind, the length was no where near sufficient considering half the cast was nothing more than decorations by the end. |
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Botato said: he speaks the truth . .. we canonly rely at fanfiction to cover the gaps at this point T-TFundog said: Objurgo said: Fundog said: It has too many characters, but the hate is unwarranted, but hey that's MAL. Watch Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon then complain about there being "too many characters" x] I'd rather it have less characters with the same amount of episodes, then more episodes and the same amount of characters. The length was sufficient for the story. Except the story was supposed to be about these characters getting over their pasts; it's more of a character driven show so the length depends on the characters not the plot. With that in mind, the length was no where near sufficient considering half the cast was nothing more than decorations by the end. |
| "Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
| Everyone basically named all the flaws with Angel Beats! thus far. Rushed, too many characters for development, unexplained plot, etc. I've watched it a couple of days ago and it wasn't bad by any means. People were just comparing it to After Story so naturally I had high expectations. The lesson I learned is high expectations is fine...just not when you compare something to After Story xD. |
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StardustNyako said: he speaks the truth . .. we canonly rely at fanfiction to cover the gaps at this point T-T I heard the VN will cover everything the anime was supposed to. Hopefully if it does well we can see a remake. |
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Botato said: oh . . .Ahahaha, you mean the VN that was recently (In April) announced that it's release date was indefinite . . .StardustNyako said: he speaks the truth . .. we canonly rely at fanfiction to cover the gaps at this point T-T I heard the VN will cover everything the anime was supposed to. Hopefully if it does well we can see a remake. I dunno man, sorry to possibly burst your bubble but, IDK. |
| "Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
| It's r--Damn, everyone already took the good replies. As much as I liked the art, music, and the fact it was one of my first shows, it's still very flawed and overrated, especially on this site. Most characters are bland, one-dimensional, and/or generic versions of famous archetypes (e.g. Yui being the eccentric hyperactive girl, similar to Fuko from Clannad, funny considering both were written by Jun Maeda). Obligatory complaint about rushed ending here and hope that the VN will fix everything. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| Had it been 25 or 26 episodes, it could have been one of the best drama anime out there. |
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Fundog said: Yeah but they could have had less characters and more time to develop them, then have so many characters and develop them all in more episodes. Yes of course, but my response was directed at you saying that the length was enough for the story. Since this show is character driven, there's no 'enough length.' They could have just kept adding new characters entering the after life and have 500 episodes and it would still work. Fundog said: You can set an amount of characters in the series. More characters doesn't mean it's better. In 12 episodes, they could've developed each character more. No one said more == better. Yes but obviously Jun Maeda didn't expect to be told "hey we'll end it pretty soon so wrap it up." Fundog said: Some of the characters were pretty pointless and didn't really fit in with the group anyway, like T.K. who was only for comedic purposes. This just goes back to the original point that there wasn't enough time. None of the characters would be pointless if this was 26 episodes or something. StardustNyako said: Botato said: oh . . .Ahahaha, you mean the VN that was recently (In April) announced that it's release date was indefinite . . .StardustNyako said: he speaks the truth . .. we canonly rely at fanfiction to cover the gaps at this point T-T I heard the VN will cover everything the anime was supposed to. Hopefully if it does well we can see a remake. I dunno man, sorry to possibly burst your bubble but, IDK. Meh. It'll get released sooner or later. For now I can forget this series ever existed :p |
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Rastafa21 said: Had it been 25 or 26 episodes, it could have been one of the best drama anime out there. This |
| The cast was too large for such a short series. MC was pretty two dimensional, save for his backstory. And, of course, it was rushed to hell, which is why most people want a remake. sonnandeskcar said: adaptation of what? It was an anime original smhRushed and terrible adaptation. |
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| People on MAL hates on everything, so don't be too surprised. |
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| School Setting and boring characters |
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ryuixyui said: I don't know if this is real or not ._. Woud be awesome to see if it was.It was bad because the story was a mess. Jun Maeda planned a darker plot for Angel Beats! but drop it because Key wanted the anime to be watchable by anyone. Judging the said plot, Angel beats would have been a 24 episode anime. The plot involves Otonashi discovering that he was killing his friends by freeing them of their regrets (turning them to shadows) and basically tries to save them. I wonder if the visual novel will follow this plot. |
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| Rejoice there is a visual novel with part/beat/volume 1 coming this may. All characters will be fully developed and realized in this visual novel(s). Also when the visual novel series is done there is a very high chance of an anime adaprtation since its key and angel beats is very popular. |
davinci12 said: Rejoice there is a visual novel with part/beat/volume 1 coming this may. All characters will be fully developed and realized in this visual novel(s). Also when the visual novel series is done there is a very high chance of an anime adaprtation since its key and angel beats is very popular. I don't think we'll see another Angel Beats anime before 2020. The VN is ridiculously ambitious (6 volumes / 19 routes) and judging from all the trouble Key went through before deciding to release volume 1, I'm expecting a lot of delays. Also, all I've seen from the VN are pantyshots and hints at "pick your own waifu" routes (Iwasawa), so I'm not getting my hopes up. ryuixyui said: It was bad because the story was a mess. Jun Maeda planned a darker plot for Angel Beats! but drop it because Key wanted the anime to be watchable by anyone. Judging the said plot, Angel beats would have been a 24 episode anime. The plot involves Otonashi discovering that he was killing his friends by freeing them of their regrets (turning them to shadows) and basically tries to save them. I wonder if the visual novel will follow this plot. While it is true that AB was originally planned to be 24-eps-long, the rest of this post is nothing more than (interesting) fanfiction. Especially considering that the bolded part goes directly against the themes of the show (damaged people managing to get over their regrets and going back to the cycle of life), and even if Jun Maeda wanted to write a darker story, I doubt that he would have completely changed the themes and message he had planned, instead of just fixing the story. |
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| I liked it, but there could have easily been 10-15 more episodes. Really could have had more episodes like Yui's where they go out and help main characters. Get to know their backstory and really help them. Did we ever find out Hinata's backstory? If not, then thats stupid cause he was such a big character (in his own way) as was Noda. It was just very rushed and thats not what you want when you start a series |
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Content said: Because people are free to like and hate things according to their tastes and preferences. The bigger question to ask would be, why exactly don't enough people hate Angel Beats? Don't worry, there are plenty of people here who hate on Angel Beats. It's in the elitist club's list of shit/overrated anime and there are plenty of negative reviews who get a lot of upvotes. UpBoat said: I liked it, but there could have easily been 10-15 more episodes. Really could have had more episodes like Yui's where they go out and help main characters. Get to know their backstory and really help them. Did we ever find out Hinata's backstory? If not, then thats stupid cause he was such a big character (in his own way) as was Noda. It was just very rushed and thats not what you want when you start a series Yes we did, in episode 4. Also, I don't think that your wish to know more about random side characters who got 3 seconds of screentime each translates to a flaw of the show. I also don't think that repeating the formula of helping more of those characters over and over would have added much to the show's themes. |
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| Minor characters have been obliterated in one ep without backstories. Needed more episodes. |
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-Oreki-Houtarou- said: Minor characters have been obliterated in one ep without backstories. Needed more episodes. Again, this is your own wishful thinking and it has no impact on the show's quality. |
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kokusho36 said: Technically it did though. The show WAS supposed to have more episodes and explore the other characters; that's the expectation it built up. Suddenly cutting it short like that and making the mess that was the last arc lessened the enjoyment of many.-Oreki-Houtarou- said: Minor characters have been obliterated in one ep without backstories. Needed more episodes. Again, this is your own wishful thinking and it has no impact on the show's quality. |
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