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Jun 25, 2010 10:38 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Graduation, the last episode of Angel Beats, I wonder how this is going to-



Fuck you Hinata! If you aren't going to take this seriously, I'm not!

Though for the most part, it's touching in a way. All this time they've been fighting to stay alive, but now, they finally came to gripes on how pointless it was and decided to move on.
Shame most of the side-characters disappeared off-screen with no backstory, so what could have been a great finale just turns 'good' because of all the wasted potiential.

And then, there was two..




Well, this came off as bittersweet, I guess this finale wasn't too bad after all, I mean, Jun Maeda-



Without any real explaination, they are all alive?
I just.......... huh?

This ends without any real conflict or resolution! And better yet! Explaination! So they were in a coma the entire time? What was the point of the school? Why did Naoi and Kanade have powers in the afterlife?
I WAS ASTROBASE BEFORE YOU EVEN!
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Jun 25, 2010 10:40 AM
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wow how did you watch the ep and get the screencaps so quickly?
Was it off nicodouga?
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icekatana8825 said:
wow how did you watch the ep and get the screencaps so quickly?
Was it off nicodouga?


CBC airs it before TBS.
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ShibuyaRiver said:
icekatana8825 said:
wow how did you watch the ep and get the screencaps so quickly?
Was it off nicodouga?


CBC airs it before TBS.


Oh wow you must be in Japan you lucky-
I'm in Hong Kong ;_;

inb4 Tenshi fanart
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Jun 25, 2010 10:54 AM

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That was nice, I wish there was a bit more explanation though, and maybe everybody in the real world..like what happened to everyone? I like how it leaves the ending open to interpretation...I assume this means no season 2 though.
 
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Jun 25, 2010 10:55 AM

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perhaps the real Kanade disappeared or Kanade was at that time with Yuzuru was another o.o
 
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Jun 25, 2010 10:59 AM

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Can't decide if I'm happy with the ending or not :/

What happened to Yuri? Did she just disappear?


 
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Jun 25, 2010 11:00 AM
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For me I thought that was just after they bad been reborn, many years later. I mean the character design was a tad bit diffrent, though I would have made them look even more diffrent with just a few defining characteristics to remain.

Overall this finale was a bit of an anticlmax, but not in a bad way. Is till thought it was very enjoyable.
 
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Jun 25, 2010 11:02 AM

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KEY! LISTEN TO ME! NEVER AGAIN MAKE ANOTHER 13 EPISODE SERIES....JUST DONT!!

Wasted potential all over this series, and while the final episode had some touching moments it was handled to poorly I cant even decide if I liked the episode or just hated it.

Yuri's disappearance was unclimatic and retarded....they are really gonna let the main character go just like that? bullshit

Kanada/Otonashi moment was the highlight of the episode, but wtf happened to Otonashi? What is the true state of the world? Were they really dead or in a coma? Why was there another Kanade/Otonashi in the real world? WHY SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!

He better answer these things on the extra bluray episode...I swear to god...

While I have really enjoyed this series and really wanted to rate it higher, I cannot give this anything over 8/10 because of so much left unresolved. But im damn sure all the fanboys will think of this as an incredibly sad and masterpiece episode...bleh
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game8910 said:
While I have really enjoyed this series and really wanted to rate it higher, I cannot give this anything over 8/10 because of so much left unresolved. But im damn sure all the fanboys will think of this as an incredibly sad and masterpiece episode...bleh


You're generous, I rate Angel Beats at a 6/10.
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Jun 25, 2010 11:17 AM

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ShibuyaRiver said:

You're generous, I rate Angel Beats at a 6/10.


heh I cant deny that I myself am a big Keyfag...but this just wasnt the best hes done
 
Jun 25, 2010 11:26 AM
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Also to clear some stuff up:

It was explicitely stated that Kanade got Otonashi's heart transplant and that her regrets from her previous life were never being able to thank the one that allowed her to life on. So yes, he did die, no coma ending. So the bit at the end must have been their next life.
 
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game8910 said:
KEY! LISTEN TO ME! NEVER AGAIN MAKE ANOTHER 13 EPISODE SERIES....JUST DONT!!

Wasted potential all over this series, and while the final episode had some touching moments it was handled to poorly I cant even decide if I liked the episode or just hated it.

Yuri's disappearance was unclimatic and retarded....they are really gonna let the main character go just like that? bullshit

Kanada/Otonashi moment was the highlight of the episode, but wtf happened to Otonashi? What is the true state of the world? Were they really dead or in a coma? Why was there another Kanade/Otonashi in the real world? WHY SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!

He better answer these things on the extra bluray episode...I swear to god...

While I have really enjoyed this series and really wanted to rate it higher, I cannot give this anything over 8/10 because of so much left unresolved. But im damn sure all the fanboys will think of this as an incredibly sad and masterpiece episode...bleh


Yeah, after reading through your post, I must agree that while I love KEY I cannot excuse the wasted potential for what could have been an AMAZING 24 episode anime. I bump my score from a 9/10 to and 8/10
 
Jun 25, 2010 11:29 AM
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Rhedak said:
For me I thought that was just after they bad been reborn, many years later. I mean the character design was a tad bit diffrent, though I would have made them look even more diffrent with just a few defining characteristics to remain.

Overall this finale was a bit of an anticlmax, but not in a bad way. Is till thought it was very enjoyable.


Ok...
Now let's move forward to some angel beat doujins
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Jun 25, 2010 11:54 AM

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Eh, not bad for my first time watching a Key animation. Also, 200th anime completed~! ^_^
At the end of it all though, my final verdict is: More explanation needed.
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Rhedak said:
Also to clear some stuff up:

It was explicitely stated that Kanade got Otonashi's heart transplant and that her regrets from her previous life were never being able to thank the one that allowed her to life on. So yes, he did die, no coma ending. So the bit at the end must have been their next life.


So, they were worried about being reincarnate into a water flea, when it turns out that they are reborn looking the same in their past lives?

I don't buy it.
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So what's the Kanji for Hinata Hideki?
 
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Rhedak said:
Also to clear some stuff up:

It was explicitely stated that Kanade got Otonashi's heart transplant and that her regrets from her previous life were never being able to thank the one that allowed her to life on. So yes, he did die, no coma ending. So the bit at the end must have been their next life.


She got a heart transplant and died anyway? HAHA


 
Jun 25, 2010 12:22 PM
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P.S. According to the official twitter on official site, Ichiban no Takaramono in this ep. was by karuta and that this ver. will release on July 28, 2010 (different from Yui ver.)

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So what's the Kanji for Hinata Hideki?


I'm guessing 日向秀樹. ED didn't show his full name and that diploma thingy was blurry for everyone.

Edit: TOOO Disappointed about TOOO little appearances (comparing to other members) for Yusa, the initial reason that I began to watch Angel Beats!

Well, at least it's not completely the end for now because we still have Angel Beats! Special to wait for.
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AmityDaydreams said:
Rhedak said:
Also to clear some stuff up:

It was explicitely stated that Kanade got Otonashi's heart transplant and that her regrets from her previous life were never being able to thank the one that allowed her to life on. So yes, he did die, no coma ending. So the bit at the end must have been their next life.


She got a heart transplant and died anyway? HAHA


this is what I thougth too...they also never explained how Yuri or Kanade died
 
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AmityDaydreams said:
Rhedak said:
Also to clear some stuff up:

It was explicitely stated that Kanade got Otonashi's heart transplant and that her regrets from her previous life were never being able to thank the one that allowed her to life on. So yes, he did die, no coma ending. So the bit at the end must have been their next life.


She got a heart transplant and died anyway? HAHA


this is what I thougtht too...they also never explained how Yuri or Kanade died
 
Jun 25, 2010 12:57 PM

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Shit was real
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Jun 25, 2010 1:01 PM

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shit was... left with way to many loose ends?
 
Jun 25, 2010 1:02 PM

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Such a touching ending. I loved it :(
Kanade-chaaan ;_;
 
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this is what I thougtht too...they also never explained how Yuri or Kanade died


By rights they didnt even show most die. Let alone explain it.
 
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So Otonashi died before Kanade? Then how come he went to the 'Purgatory' after her, and not before?
 
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So Otonashi died before Kanade? Then how come he went to the 'Purgatory' after her, and not before?


It could be that they don't show up immediately. Or that Angel Beats world time is not linked to real world time.
 
Jun 25, 2010 1:52 PM

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I don't mind some of the loose ends but....I wanted a more cast-encompassing epilogue ;.;.

The matching pendants at the end were bawww worthy ^.^

I was not at all expecting Kanade's explanation for why she went through hell that long. Loved it~
 
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I don't mind some of the loose ends but....I wanted a more cast-encompassing epilogue ;.;.


I agree, we don't know anything about when the others disappeared :(

(http://www.gogoanime.com/angel-beats-13-angel-beats-episode-13-2 raws out - I chuckled at the Mapu Tofu song)


 
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Uhm...this was a nice ep, not the best but I liked it. I loved Yuzuru x Kanade moment, and Yuri is awesome ~
Sad that this anime was only 13 eps, if it had been longer it wuold have been so much better... But for me is still the best work, after clannad, made by Key.
The ost was also great, I will miss this anime. 10/10
 
Jun 25, 2010 2:50 PM

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There is a lot of plot twist that can't not rated this 10/10, but it's end very sad but they meet again in Afterlife.
We didn't see Otonashi disappeared after Kanata but what I believed he did also disappeared after her.
If your love a person that much your memories in your heart will still remember the afterlife.
There is hardly people that remember they previous life.
I wil give this 7/10 :)

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KEY! LISTEN TO ME! NEVER AGAIN MAKE ANOTHER 13 EPISODE SERIES....JUST DONT!!

Wasted potential all over this series, and while the final episode had some touching moments it was handled to poorly I cant even decide if I liked the episode or just hated it.

Yuri's disappearance was unclimatic and retarded....they are really gonna let the main character go just like that? bullshit

Kanada/Otonashi moment was the highlight of the episode, but wtf happened to Otonashi? What is the true state of the world? Were they really dead or in a coma? Why was there another Kanade/Otonashi in the real world? WHY SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!

He better answer these things on the extra bluray episode...I swear to god...

While I have really enjoyed this series and really wanted to rate it higher, I cannot give this anything over 8/10 because of so much left unresolved. But im damn sure all the fanboys will think of this as an incredibly sad and masterpiece episode...bleh


I TOTALLY agree with you. I rate it 7/10 though.
 
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Sad that this anime was only 13 eps, if it had been longer it wuold have been so much better...


No, it needed a better writer, so the story could feel organic rather than a nice cluster fuck.
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Ep 13 is out damn! *Search on google*
 
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Yama-chi said:
Sad that this anime was only 13 eps, if it had been longer it wuold have been so much better...


I agree with you Yama-chi. It would have been a lot better with some more eps(thouhg it's also super-great as it is). If they had made some more, we would not only have gotten to watch some more of the anime, but the writers would have had more time to make it better, deeper, with some more meaning and maybe even funnier(;D).

To the guys who say this anime isn't good: I don't see why you people complain so much about this series, I get, like, amazed by how great it is! And even when you're saying that it's bad, you're still there on the net to watch it, each and every week, only seconds after it get's released, for you to even bother to do that, you must really quite like it. If it's that bad, why do you even watch it at all?(I'm not saying that you shouldn't say what you mean, but from my point of view, it seems pretty stupid...)

Well, then, I guess there'll be no 2. season :'( Can't believe it has ended this quickly, feel like I started watching it yesterday
 
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Episode 13 Screencaps and Impressions:
http://randomc.net/2010/06/25/angel-beats-13-end/
 
Jun 25, 2010 4:37 PM
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So... WTF happened with Takamatsu? When he got turned into an NPC, did he also turn into a shadow and eternally die?
 
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Shit was real


And how real have it got?
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Jun 25, 2010 5:07 PM
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I thought Key wasn’t going to be able to pull off an ending in the last ep, I was wrong. Lesson learned; never doubt Key.
 
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Some quick explainations.
Otonashi is a bug -> He does not have top follow the rules, in fact a bug should always disrupt the rules, thats why they are called bugs. Time diff may simply be due to this.

Takamatsu got cured (mentioned in dialogue), likely by Kanade or Takeyama using the Angel Player software.

The ending showed they were reincarnated as they did not know each other. Further explaination as follows
i) So why did they not become a water flea?
Reincarnation depends on good or bad deeds done in prior lives. Also to note, any short lifespan animal/lifeform they became would not impact very much. Eg. Yuzuru became a water flea and died in a month. He gets reincarnated again, etc

ii) Why would he meet Kanade?
Going with reincarnation motto, this is translated as fate, which links one to another. This link may change the relationship in the next life (eg, a person's mother may become the daughter or even son of a person in the next life) but because of the link, there is still the chance of meeting each other. Clamp manga reference this relatively commonly

iii) Why the heck do they look the same?
That's for the viewers. If they showed Arakawa's Nino and bleach's Ichigo in that short segment, you would have gone "huh????"
 
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Tenshi's more love than usual (She'll always be Tenshi for me~), and Yuri's more tsundere than usual.
And that song is absolutely horrible. (lol Mapo tofu~)
The second one.. Is worse.
Countdown to dispersion:
Naoi gone: Check ✔
Yuri gone: Check ✔
Hinata gone: Check ✔
Tenshi gone: Check ✔ D': <3
Otonashi gone: Check ✔
Wut end: Check ✔ O.o

Also. Despite the disappointment that I've been reading about like.. Everywhere. I was pretty satisfied with this anime, from start to end.
Did, like, very much actually.
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I know that many people hate this series, but I can't do anything but give it a 10. This was one of the best shows in the last years imo.

(Btw I know that there were some plot holes, but I could still enjoy the series fully, that's why I give it a 10. It left me with a feeling in my stomach, that can only be caused by great stories)
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WTF just happened?
Can someone please clarify things.
I am very confused.

I can't give a 10 many things are unanswered/explained.

:l

1.Did Otonashi stay in the afterlife? or move on?
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A rollercoaster in terms of quality. Easily the worst Key anime, but this final episode had some touching moments, the animation was consistently great and I actually liked the comedy for the most part. So it gets a strong 6/10.
 
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It was a good ending <33
Loved the song in the end~
 
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I know that many people hate this series, but I can't do anything but give it a 10. This was one of the best shows in the last years imo.

(Btw I know that there were some plot holes, but I could still enjoy the series fully, that's why I give it a 10. It left me with a feeling in my stomach, that can only be caused by great stories)


I feel the same.

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Jun 25, 2010 5:57 PM

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Agh, I am such a sucker for these endings.
I understand that this was a failure compared to Clannad and Kanon when you consider how rushed, inconsistent, and random some of the stuff way, but meh.
There is just that delightful Key element to all of this, and I can't help but love the series anyways.

Not to mention how bad most of the other shows this season were...
I guess I'll just keep on going with Heaven's Door. That should be good since there shouldn't be a rush on a manga.
 
Jun 25, 2010 6:03 PM

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Key better give us an OVA, or I'll eat all their cookies
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Mah. So much left unexplained. So Kanade got there by magic I s'pose? Or really strong feelings mixed with magic.

This whole series had plot twists out of left field, there's no way to come up with the ending by watching the first few eps.
 
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