| Now people before getting mad, just hear me out first. Is it because of the manga sales? Or is it because of world wide popularity? Dbz, Bleach, and Naruto, are really popular outside of Japan. But why is one piece apart of the big 3? I'm pretty sure one piece is mostly known in Japan, it's not really popular anywhere else, as Dbz, naruto or bleach. So Why is one piece in the big 3? is it because it's the #1 manga in Japan then? People, keep telling me, that the big three was made from the west. but I'm pretty sure one piece is not popular in the west at all. Tell me what u think. Also I'm not talking about now, I'm talking about when they were in their prime. People keep talking about now, I'm talking about when they were really popular. |
keragammingFeb 20, 2014 3:23 PM
| Because it's a popular long running shounen just like Bleach and Naruto. |
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| #1 in Japan = #1 worldwide in terms of sales atleast. Big three really has become an archaic term in reference to Manga. Kuroko no Basket and Magi sell nearly 4,000,000 more volumes per year than Naruto each, why aren't they a part of the "Big 3"? Hell, Attack on Titan tripled Naruto's sales this year, big three anyone? |
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| Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece were the most popular long running battle shounen at the time the term was made. That's about it. |
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| First of all, the "big 3" in terms of anime watched in Japan doesn't include any of those. Also, Bleach isn't even a part of the main 3 shounen, although some westerners like to think so. While Bleach was popular in Japan relative to the average series, it was never NEARLY as popular as westerners think it is. And currently it's not really popular at all over there. For the most part, Bleach is dead. Naruto isn't even what it used to be. Although it's still going and popular, I'm not sure what it ranks now. One Piece however, is everywhere. You go to a convenience store, there's a One Piece section, you go to a normal (non manga) cafe, all volumes of One Piece and maybe DBZ are on a shelf for reading. You talk to a normal family, they probably have read/watched One Piece. Just like Dragon Ball and Z, it's something universally accepted and appreciated, where most other series are not. Toriko is getting pretty popular in Japan from what I understand. And surprisingly, Space Brothers (it's structured like a shounen, even though it's a slice of life) climbed to the #8 most watched anime. Also, DBZ used to be the biggest thing ever (when I was over there in October, I watched it on late night TV, it was pretty sweet), and it still technically counts as a mega shounen since it's still making a lot of money, but it stopped airing ages ago. So I wouldn't count anything that isn't still going. |
ovoon7Feb 20, 2014 3:07 PM
| One Piece isn't popular anywhere else o.o? I think it's fairly popular in America.. |
| "The Big Three" doesn't exist in Japan, and is not an official term to begin with. One Piece is on top in terms of sales, and stuff like Naruto and Bleach, while not bad in terms of sales, are fall below it. In fact, HxH sells more than Bleach, so.... |
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ovoon7 said: First of all, the "big 3" in terms of anime watched in Japan doesn't include any of those. Also, Bleach isn't even a part of the main 3 shounen, although some westerners like to think so. While Bleach was popular in Japan relative to the average series, it was never NEARLY as popular as westerners think it is. And currently it's not really popular at all over there. For the most part, Bleach is dead. Naruto isn't even what it used to be. Although it's still going and popular, I'm not sure what it ranks now. One Piece however, is everywhere. You go to a convenience store, there's a One Piece section, you go to a normal (non manga) cafe, all volumes of One Piece and maybe DBZ are on a shelf for reading. You talk to a normal family, they probably have read/watched One Piece. Just like Dragon Ball and Z, it's something universally accepted and appreciated, where most other series are not. Toriko is getting pretty popular in Japan from what I understand. And surprisingly, Space Brothers (it's structured like a shounen, even though it's a slice of life) climbed to the #8 most watched anime. Also, DBZ used to be the biggest thing ever (when I was over there in October, I watched it on late night TV, it was pretty sweet), and it still technically counts as a mega shounen since it's still making a lot of money, but it stopped airing ages ago. So I wouldn't count anything that isn't still going. You completely miss the point. Sigh.... |
MrAM said: "The Big Three" doesn't exist in Japan, and is not an official term to begin with. One Piece is on top in terms of sales, and stuff like Naruto and Bleach, while not bad in terms of sales, are fall below it. In fact, HxH sells more than Bleach, so.... Hunter x Hunter as a manga sells really well, even though the art is garbage, it's already considered a well known classic. My host family parents owned a few manga collections: One Piece, Hunter x Hunter, and Nana. The anime for HxH though, I couldn't tell. I didn't really see any influence of it when I was there, aside from the new film (I nabbed a poster for it, hung it in my cubicle) |
IntroverTurtle said: Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece were the most popular long running battle shounen at the time the term was made. That's about it. I think I'll take this one. Good answer. |
keragamming said: ovoon7 said: First of all, the "big 3" in terms of anime watched in Japan doesn't include any of those. Also, Bleach isn't even a part of the main 3 shounen, although some westerners like to think so. While Bleach was popular in Japan relative to the average series, it was never NEARLY as popular as westerners think it is. And currently it's not really popular at all over there. For the most part, Bleach is dead. Naruto isn't even what it used to be. Although it's still going and popular, I'm not sure what it ranks now. One Piece however, is everywhere. You go to a convenience store, there's a One Piece section, you go to a normal (non manga) cafe, all volumes of One Piece and maybe DBZ are on a shelf for reading. You talk to a normal family, they probably have read/watched One Piece. Just like Dragon Ball and Z, it's something universally accepted and appreciated, where most other series are not. Toriko is getting pretty popular in Japan from what I understand. And surprisingly, Space Brothers (it's structured like a shounen, even though it's a slice of life) climbed to the #8 most watched anime. Also, DBZ used to be the biggest thing ever (when I was over there in October, I watched it on late night TV, it was pretty sweet), and it still technically counts as a mega shounen since it's still making a lot of money, but it stopped airing ages ago. So I wouldn't count anything that isn't still going. You completely miss the point. Sigh.... Ok? Explain yourself then? |
MrAM said: "The Big Three" doesn't exist in Japan, and is not an official term to begin with. One Piece is on top in terms of sales, and stuff like Naruto and Bleach, while not bad in terms of sales, are fall below it. In fact, HxH sells more than Bleach, so.... I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about when they were in their prime. |
| The Big three only exists in the west. One Piece is by far the most popular manga in Japan, and because of that, it's by far the most popular manga out there. Also, the most recent figure in France: http://www.9emeart.fr/post/news/general/voici-les-25-bd-les-plus-vendues-en-2013-1176 Two One Piece volume in front of the best Naruto volume. Lol, where you at Kishimoto? |
ovoon7 said: keragamming said: ovoon7 said: First of all, the "big 3" in terms of anime watched in Japan doesn't include any of those. Also, Bleach isn't even a part of the main 3 shounen, although some westerners like to think so. While Bleach was popular in Japan relative to the average series, it was never NEARLY as popular as westerners think it is. And currently it's not really popular at all over there. For the most part, Bleach is dead. Naruto isn't even what it used to be. Although it's still going and popular, I'm not sure what it ranks now. One Piece however, is everywhere. You go to a convenience store, there's a One Piece section, you go to a normal (non manga) cafe, all volumes of One Piece and maybe DBZ are on a shelf for reading. You talk to a normal family, they probably have read/watched One Piece. Just like Dragon Ball and Z, it's something universally accepted and appreciated, where most other series are not. Toriko is getting pretty popular in Japan from what I understand. And surprisingly, Space Brothers (it's structured like a shounen, even though it's a slice of life) climbed to the #8 most watched anime. Also, DBZ used to be the biggest thing ever (when I was over there in October, I watched it on late night TV, it was pretty sweet), and it still technically counts as a mega shounen since it's still making a lot of money, but it stopped airing ages ago. So I wouldn't count anything that isn't still going. You completely miss the point. Sigh.... Ok? Explain yourself then? I'm talking about when they were really popular. Also I'm pretty sure one piece is not that popular as naruto or bleach outside of Japan. |
| the big 3 isnt an official title it is an unofficial title made in north america because naruto, bleach and one piece are the most popular shows in north america |
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SetsukoHara said: The Big three only exists in the west. One Piece is by far the most popular manga in Japan, and because of that, it's by far the most popular manga out there. Also, the most recent figure in France: http://www.9emeart.fr/post/news/general/voici-les-25-bd-les-plus-vendues-en-2013-1176 Two One Piece volume in front of the best Naruto volume. Lol, where you at Kishimoto? "The Big three only exists in the west" Then how is one piece a part of the big three then?? It's really not that popular in the west. |
mattbenz99 said: the big 3 isnt an official title it is an unofficial title made in north america because naruto, bleach and one piece are the most popular shows in north america Well, one piece isn't popular in the west.... So how? |
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Raven_Baby-Gurl said: But it is popular in the west. Not being as popular as Bleach or Naruto in the west =/= not popular.mattbenz99 said: the big 3 isnt an official title it is an unofficial title made in north america because naruto, bleach and one piece are the most popular shows in north america Well, one piece isn't popular in the west.... So how? |
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| You can't really, accurately measure the One Piece popularity by sales in the West, ironically, because pirates. Then again the Big 3 concept is a fan construction and it should just be treated like that. |
keragamming said: SetsukoHara said: The Big three only exists in the west. One Piece is by far the most popular manga in Japan, and because of that, it's by far the most popular manga out there. Also, the most recent figure in France: http://www.9emeart.fr/post/news/general/voici-les-25-bd-les-plus-vendues-en-2013-1176 Two One Piece volume in front of the best Naruto volume. Lol, where you at Kishimoto? "The Big three only exists in the west" Then how is one piece a part of the big three then?? It's really not that popular in the west. It is. I showed you it is the most popular in France, and it's quite popular in the US. The rest doesn't matter sorry. |
| Very ignoarnt when you say it's only popular in Japan |
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umashikaneko said: one piece is big where manga is popular than anime. Japan,France,China… western people tend to less like one piece because it seems fake to them,while Japanese tend to less like naruto because it seems fake to Japanese Stupid comment. Even in these bad times naruto is still selling well in Japan. |
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trunghuynh90 said: Very ignoarnt when you say it's only popular in Japan It's a fact go looks up one piece sales outside of Japan then. In the west it's really not popular. Look at the comments not one person disagree, because it's true. |
Raven_Baby-Gurl said: umashikaneko said: one piece is big where manga is popular than anime. Japan,France,China… western people tend to less like one piece because it seems fake to them,while Japanese tend to less like naruto because it seems fake to Japanese Stupid comment. Even in these bad times naruto is still selling well in Japan. Not as much as One Piece though, which is the whole point of this thread if you haven't noticed it. |
keragamming said: trunghuynh90 said: Very ignoarnt when you say it's only popular in Japan It's a fact go looks up one piece sales outside of Japan then. In the west it's really not popular. Look at the comments not one person disagree, because it's true. I disagree, but you conveniently chose to ignore my posts. |
SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: trunghuynh90 said: Very ignoarnt when you say it's only popular in Japan It's a fact go looks up one piece sales outside of Japan then. In the west it's really not popular. Look at the comments not one person disagree, because it's true. I disagree, but you conveniently chose to ignore my posts. Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. |
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keragamming said: Why does it have to be English? France is pretty western.SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: trunghuynh90 said: Very ignoarnt when you say it's only popular in Japan It's a fact go looks up one piece sales outside of Japan then. In the west it's really not popular. Look at the comments not one person disagree, because it's true. I disagree, but you conveniently chose to ignore my posts. Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. |
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Emnay said: keragamming said: Why does it have to be English? France is pretty western.SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: trunghuynh90 said: Very ignoarnt when you say it's only popular in Japan It's a fact go looks up one piece sales outside of Japan then. In the west it's really not popular. Look at the comments not one person disagree, because it's true. I disagree, but you conveniently chose to ignore my posts. Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. Yea, but English is a pretty common language. |
keragamming said: Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. France is one of the biggest western market if you don't know. I don't know that much about the other market, but I see from time to time this NY times thread in the news forum and One Piece is often thre; |
| Because there were 3 successful long running battle shonens when people in the west thought of the name... |
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SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. France is one of the biggest western market if you don't know. I don't know that much about the other market, but I see from time to time this NY times thread in the news forum and One Piece is often thre; Nope. I've never seen one piece on NY times. |
cruzateu said: Because there were 3 successful long running battle shonens when people in the west thought of the name... But it's not as popular in the west as dbz bleach and naruto, or full metal alchemist or attack on titan, or sword art online, ect u get my drift? It's really not that popular out side of Japan compare to these few examples. From seeing these comments, I've come to the conclusion that one piece made it into the big three because it's #1 in Japan. |
keragammingFeb 20, 2014 3:47 PM
keragamming said: SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. France is one of the biggest western market if you don't know. I don't know that much about the other market, but I see from time to time this NY times thread in the news forum and One Piece is often thre; Nope. I've never seen one piece on NY times. I'm talking about the NY best sellers thread. If you haven't seen One piece, you're not paying attention. http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2013-12-22/manga/list.html http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2013-12-29/manga/list.html http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2014-01-05/manga/list.html You're ridiculous! |
keragamming said: SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. France is one of the biggest western market if you don't know. I don't know that much about the other market, but I see from time to time this NY times thread in the news forum and One Piece is often thre; Nope. I've never seen one piece on NY times. http://nihongogo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/One-Piece-Ad-in-New-York-Times-Celebrates-300-Million-Books-Sold-3-1024x768.jpg |
| Because ignoring the sales,it puts every shounen in existance to shame without even trying to hard...the story is just that good |
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SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: SetsukoHara said: keragamming said: Give me some English speaking language that one piece has good sales in. France wont cut it. France is one of the biggest western market if you don't know. I don't know that much about the other market, but I see from time to time this NY times thread in the news forum and One Piece is often thre; Nope. I've never seen one piece on NY times. I'm talking about the NY best sellers thread. If you haven't seen One piece, you're not paying attention. http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2013-12-22/manga/list.html http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2013-12-29/manga/list.html http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2014-01-05/manga/list.html You're ridiculous! Attack on Titan is really high on those. Let's replace bleach with that. renders said: Because ignoring the sales,it puts every shounen in existance to shame without even trying to hard...the story is just that good Yes |
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| ANyone talking shit about One Piece is on my list... You don't wanna know what kind of list |
| -> No asspulls -> The best long-running battle shounen ever created -> #1 manga sales in Japan (do you even realize what that means?) -> Every anime fan knows One Piece and watched some of it Also this. Now, if you ask me why Bleach is part of the Big 3, that I can't answer. |
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bloodgods said: ANyone talking shit about One Piece is on my list... You don't wanna know what kind of list Did u even read my post? |
| Hope this thread doesn't derail into One Piece vs Non-One Piece fans.. A lot of my real life friends in the USofA who are into anime don't like one piece or just haven't tried it honestly. Common reasons I receive for them not liking or trying it: "I don't like the way the characters/art style look," "it's too damn long" or "Luffy is retarded, unwatchable." I can at least garner that there are a good number of one piece manga fans in the US from numerous forums online I guess. I think its okay. I enjoy some arcs, other arcs I don't enjoy much at all. I'm caught up with the manga. |
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| I'd vaguely heard of One Piece before getting into anime (U.S.), but not Bleach or Naruto. I'm surprised that in anime sales Bleach is the only one in the top 100. (#84) |
| Now that this thread already got answers, I've always wanted to say fanboying thing like this: "Oh, yes! One Piece shouldn't be part of big 3! It should be part of holy great 1 alone. Naruto, Bleach, Kuroko no Basuke, maybe SnK, FT, and Magi can form kind-of-big-6 or something." |
keragamming said: Yes I did, I was speaking in general to everyone on the threadbloodgods said: ANyone talking shit about One Piece is on my list... You don't wanna know what kind of list Did u even read my post? |
JD2411 said: Yes because travelling to one island, beating up random bad guys and leaving again is a surefire way to find One Piece. If I was blind I couldn't read or watch it and if I lived in another world I wouldn't be talking to you right now Dude. Have you been paying attention to the plot!? They are following the log pose, which will eventually lead them to the last island, which has the one piece. |
rodacFeb 21, 2014 7:07 PM
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at least they're f-ing looking for the one piece unlike natsu and the dragon and they are all f-ing training TRAINING=does not exist in fairy tail btw when was the last time they read a book to use a flipping spell? |
rodacFeb 21, 2014 7:08 PM
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| US =/= everywhere else in the world. That constant misconception is tiring, and only shows a sort of ignorance. One Piece is bigger than the others in Asia which in case you don't know your geography is a far bigger continent than North America, not to talk of the US alone. Someone has already provided figures for France, and I will say that though there isn't as big an anime community here in Canada, One Piece is pretty much just as popular as Naruto online and in stores. |
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