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| "Events that happen in this world are a continuous series of trifling things. And within those myriad pieces of puzzles, there is a fragment that leads to the truth." -Kishou Arima |
| Sasaki seems masochist. Everybody beats, shoot, bad mouths him. Holey shit, go bat to being Ken chan already! |
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LameReader said: Sasaki seems masochist. Everybody beats, shoot, bad mouths him. Holey shit, go bat to being Ken chan already! Everybody like who ? |
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| Arima, Akira, fellow investigators (verbally), Nishiki, even Qxs, well atleast Qxs not anymore! |
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| Out of the dozens of manga ive read theres always been 1 part of the characters face that determines their emotions more than any thing else does in a manga and thats the eyes. so much gets portrayed just from the way the eyes are drawn intensified emotions that most would think would be worn on your expression that blaze brightest through their eyes. but one character in tokyo ghoul has a different part of his face that seems to define him most of the time and even i find it strange. Uries mouth. http://i7.mangapanda.com/tokyo-ghoulre/6/tokyo-ghoulre-5303677.jpg like this and in some of the panels of chapter 8 instead a fury showed by the eyes they often display his discontent or anger through his teeth grinding and w/e expression his mouth holds. kinna strange tbh the way its portrays his emotions is in a much creepier way than im used to. |
| Troublesome family you got there Haise, also Touka next chapter?!?!? |
zxrdm said: Troublesome family you got there Haise, also Touka next chapter?!?!? Why Touka? You're not mistaking Ayato for Touka I hope? |
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| That Familiarity between kaneki and arima theres definitely a huge piece of their puzzle we don't see. I told myself as soon as i saw arima reading books i would be mostly convinced that he is kanekis father since all we know about kanekis father is he liked books and died b4 kaneki could remember his face. well now we know that kaneki and arima not only BOTH like books but they share the same interests in reading which you could even go as far as to explain their similar taste in reading because kaneki read his dads books as a child so w/e types of books he read kaneki probably began liking and that became his reading interest making arima a decent speculation as kanekis biological dad. also if you wanna be like kanekis dad died b4 he could remember his face so its not arima a top rated investigator such as arima has countless enemies i highly doubt he could go home and play daddy to a woman and child without his work following home which could be why he faked his death to his family. ironically the one thing that kind of made me think arima wasn't his dad was the way kaneki calls arima his dad in his pretend family. I wonder what hte strange thing they found in torsos home was b4 they got interrupted by black rabbit. another reason i kind of think arima has some sort of familiar relationship with kaneki before they met at the end of tokyo ghoul is the way he attacked kaneki at a moments notice and quickly gave him tips to better himself. If arima truly did pick up kaneki just because he thought he was strong or could be useful without any relationship to kaneki then you wouldn't think he would spend time improving kanekis skills because we already know from chapter 7 if kaneki comes back hes suppose to be exterminated, if thats the plan you wouldn't think the top investigator would be trying to make this ghoul stronger if that skill could be used against the CCG. theres gotta be some familiar bond between the two because i dont know if you guys have paid much attention to arima in the times hes been shown but he is constnatly quiet/cool headed/professional he always seems to serious at all times you never see him attacking other CCG members as he did with kaneki as a way to train them. and these few pages of kaneki and arima talking are like the most talking weve seen from arima outside of ghoul and arima doesnt talk with anyone else like that. arima probably knows this world isnt as black and white as they portray it. which is probably why they love sneaking yin and yang symbols in. because almost every story is about a race outside of mankind that threaten mankinds existence i.e. Attack on titan, Freezing, claymore, kill la kill etc. but for once we follow the race attacking mankind instead of mankinds defense. normally a world of people and ghouls who eat people would be very black and white youd think people are good ghouls are evil but this story isn't as simple as that. |
bromainsNov 30, 2014 8:51 AM
| Shirazu has earned mad respect from me and Urie deserved every bit of what he got The Papa Arima scenes were so cool and it's pretty cute howhen Haise considers Arima and Akira to be his parents :3 And Arima calling the squad his grandkids was too great xD Based Ayato is coming through.....Please don't be a chump this time And poor Kaneki....Lying about being happy |
| That is Ayato and not Touka,dont jump on the hype train yet. |
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bromains said: That Familiarity between kaneki and arima theres definitely a huge piece of their puzzle we don't see. I told myself as soon as i saw arima reading books i would be mostly convinced that he is kanekis father since all we know about kanekis father is he liked books and died b4 kaneki could remember his face. well now we know that kaneki and arima not only BOTH like books but they share the same interests in reading which you could even go as far as to explain their similar taste in reading because kaneki read his dads books as a child so w/e types of books he read kaneki probably began liking and that became his reading interest making arima a decent speculation as kanekis biological dad. also if you wanna be like kanekis dad died b4 he could remember his face so its not arima a top rated investigator such as arima has countless enemies i highly doubt he could go home and play daddy to a woman and child without his work following home which could be why he faked his death to his family. Arima was 10 years old when Kaneki was born. I'll let you decide now if you think Arima is his father. |
Z4k said: bromains said: That Familiarity between kaneki and arima theres definitely a huge piece of their puzzle we don't see. I told myself as soon as i saw arima reading books i would be mostly convinced that he is kanekis father since all we know about kanekis father is he liked books and died b4 kaneki could remember his face. well now we know that kaneki and arima not only BOTH like books but they share the same interests in reading which you could even go as far as to explain their similar taste in reading because kaneki read his dads books as a child so w/e types of books he read kaneki probably began liking and that became his reading interest making arima a decent speculation as kanekis biological dad. also if you wanna be like kanekis dad died b4 he could remember his face so its not arima a top rated investigator such as arima has countless enemies i highly doubt he could go home and play daddy to a woman and child without his work following home which could be why he faked his death to his family. Arima was 10 years old when Kaneki was born. I'll let you decide now if you think Arima is his father. Wait, people think Arima is his actual father? ... Ok. |
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Kvothe51 said: Wait, people think Arima is his actual father? ... Ok. There is no hope left, everyone knows that Kaneki is an Arima clone, this is why he doesn't remember his father, because he never had one(so no pictures of him either) and the mom was programed to autodestroy when Kaneki grows up a bit. Hide working with CCG makes sense, he was sent there to pretend to be Kaneki's friend and take notes from his reactions(this is why he just listened to the torture). |
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Acernos said: Z4k said: Arima was 10 years old when Kaneki was born. I'll let you decide now if you think Arima is his father. the funny thing is I do not doubt that appear people who to think that Akira is the true biological mother of Kaneki. That observation trully made me laugh! Ty! |
Arcanix said: Kvothe51 said: Wait, people think Arima is his actual father? ... Ok. There is no hope left, everyone knows that Kaneki is an Arima clone, this is why he doesn't remember his father, because he never had one(so no pictures of him either) and the mom was programed to autodestroy when Kaneki grows up a bit. Hide working with CCG makes sense, he was sent there to pretend to be Kaneki's friend and take notes from his reactions(this is why he just listened to the torture). "listened to the torture...." what do you mean? i'm curious about the statement. i've only read this once so far but i just came off of rereading the TG and the CCG gives off a strange tone but i'm also trying to gain different interpretations to formulate a theory |
| "Events that happen in this world are a continuous series of trifling things. And within those myriad pieces of puzzles, there is a fragment that leads to the truth." -Kishou Arima |
| Nice chap :3 Dat Chin touch T^T So Haise takes training sessions with Arima every now and then? Cool ^^ Cookie getting demoted, slapped and kicked was awesome to see XD Haise ships Akira and Arima lol...Papa and Mama XD Loving how complex his character is though. This build up and the way Ishida is making Haise be a likable character that u can bond with makes the hype for him becoming completely Ken even more epic! Nice seeing Rabbit being SS now too. Should be fun. |
Barion-ZaraNov 30, 2014 11:23 AM
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bromains said: Out of the dozens of manga ive read theres always been 1 part of the characters face that determines their emotions more than any thing else does in a manga and thats the eyes. so much gets portrayed just from the way the eyes are drawn intensified emotions that most would think would be worn on your expression that blaze brightest through their eyes. but one character in tokyo ghoul has a different part of his face that seems to define him most of the time and even i find it strange. Uries mouth. http://i7.mangapanda.com/tokyo-ghoulre/6/tokyo-ghoulre-5303677.jpg like this and in some of the panels of chapter 8 instead a fury showed by the eyes they often display his discontent or anger through his teeth grinding and w/e expression his mouth holds. kinna strange tbh the way its portrays his emotions is in a much creepier way than im used to. could be a foreshadowing of his response to situations or adversities being eating. ishida used this a couple times in TG but in a different fashion. this might be his way to say that urie's mouth is going to get him into trouble or that he relies on his mouth to get him out of situations. eating |
| "Events that happen in this world are a continuous series of trifling things. And within those myriad pieces of puzzles, there is a fragment that leads to the truth." -Kishou Arima |
Z4k said: bromains said: That Familiarity between kaneki and arima theres definitely a huge piece of their puzzle we don't see. I told myself as soon as i saw arima reading books i would be mostly convinced that he is kanekis father since all we know about kanekis father is he liked books and died b4 kaneki could remember his face. well now we know that kaneki and arima not only BOTH like books but they share the same interests in reading which you could even go as far as to explain their similar taste in reading because kaneki read his dads books as a child so w/e types of books he read kaneki probably began liking and that became his reading interest making arima a decent speculation as kanekis biological dad. also if you wanna be like kanekis dad died b4 he could remember his face so its not arima a top rated investigator such as arima has countless enemies i highly doubt he could go home and play daddy to a woman and child without his work following home which could be why he faked his death to his family. Arima was 10 years old when Kaneki was born. I'll let you decide now if you think Arima is his father. rofl you make the same posts everywhere, read tokyo ghoul jack and ill let you decide how you feel about it. i just wish id get a post other than about the age cuz the author already pooped on arimas age |
bromainsNov 30, 2014 10:11 AM
Arcanix said: Kvothe51 said: Wait, people think Arima is his actual father? ... Ok. There is no hope left, everyone knows that Kaneki is an Arima clone, this is why he doesn't remember his father, because he never had one(so no pictures of him either) and the mom was programed to autodestroy when Kaneki grows up a bit. Hide working with CCG makes sense, he was sent there to pretend to be Kaneki's friend and take notes from his reactions(this is why he just listened to the torture). The truth is out, mindfucked. |
FrostFlame said: Really? I thought it was Touka since if it was Ayato they would have said the black rabbit. Anyways we haven't seen much of Ayato since Kaneki gave him the "103" so it wouldn't mind if it's him either. There is no hope left, humanity is doomed, we are definitely going to blow our self up. |
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Arcanix said: FrostFlame said: Really? I thought it was Touka since if it was Ayato they would have said the black rabbit. Anyways we haven't seen much of Ayato since Kaneki gave him the "103" so it wouldn't mind if it's him either. There is no hope left, humanity is doomed, we are definitely going to blow our self up. then the ghouls will come out from the sewers one by one and drag our already dead bodies underground for a feast. |
| What Haise tells his squad is the complete opposite of what Mado had drilled in his team "You have to run even if your limbs are torn off" as opposed to "you have to keep fighting even if you lose an arm or a leg" Also cookie had it all coming to him, nice slap there...so much respect for shirazu but haise crying yeah nope and it's barely even begun now I still don't get exactly what arima and haise are doing on that table A half page spread dedicated to the chin touch...ouch |
| arima is so... i cant exactly define him. maybe sexy? attractive? impressive? .. i dont know but when i've felt these feelings most recent, they were for ITACHI. both of them are looking so calm, at the same time they are so BS. this "arima is real father of kaneki" thing is a crippled theory. and i dont want something like this to happen. what i want and think is final battle will be between arima and kaneki. HELL YEA!!! and for that rabbit... is he really ayato? when did we learn this? or is this a theory too? o.O |
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MuggleBorn said: What Haise tells his squad is the complete opposite of what Mado had drilled in his team "You have to run even if your limbs are torn off" as opposed to "you have to keep fighting even if you lose an arm or a leg" Also cookie had it all coming to him, nice slap there...so much respect for shirazu but haise crying yeah nope and it's barely even begun now I still don't get exactly what arima and haise are doing on that table A half page spread dedicated to the chin touch...ouch It is also kind of ironic since it is also the opposite of Kaneki. I mean he didn't run when CCG was attacking the 20th ward, and I think he said something like "I am tired to run" to Nishiki. What Nishiki told him, hit him hard. He is trying to convince himself that Nishiki is wrong. And he still have not find out his place in the world, so much that like the lamb-cat, he prefers to die. I am hoping Kaneki does end up eating Urie. |
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gabyta07 said: MuggleBorn said: What Haise tells his squad is the complete opposite of what Mado had drilled in his team "You have to run even if your limbs are torn off" as opposed to "you have to keep fighting even if you lose an arm or a leg" Also cookie had it all coming to him, nice slap there...so much respect for shirazu but haise crying yeah nope and it's barely even begun now I still don't get exactly what arima and haise are doing on that table A half page spread dedicated to the chin touch...ouch It is also kind of ironic since it is also the opposite of Kaneki. I mean he didn't run when CCG was attacking the 20th ward, and I think he said something like "I am tired to run" to Nishiki. What Nishiki told him, hit him hard. He is trying to convince himself that Nishiki is wrong. And he still have not find out his place in the world, so much that like the lamb-cat, he prefers to die. Very ironic...for some reason I keep thinking of when he fought Amon for the first time and he refused to run, it kinda feels like his current mentoring is in objection to that (it could also be that its 2 am and i'm sleepy and thinking stuff up) Yeah Nishiki def shook him up and he even kept it from Arima, that shows exactly how much it affected him |
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bromains said: Z4k said: Arima was 10 years old when Kaneki was born. I'll let you decide now if you think Arima is his father. rofl you make the same posts everywhere, read tokyo ghoul jack and ill let you decide how you feel about it. i just wish id get a post other than about the age cuz the author already pooped on arimas age *sigh* I already read JACK a month ago when it was being serialized. You have no evidence backing up your theories other than your useless assumptions. Like I frigging said in the other 2 threads read the goddamn chapter 62 before you post those theories. |
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FrostFlame said: ftsyzc said: and for that rabbit... is he really ayato? when did we learn this? or is this a theory too? o.O I thought it was pretty obvious that Ayato was the black rabbit but we also got confirmation in the last chapter of TG. http://mangafox.me/manga/tokyo_ghoul/vTBD/c143/11.html Look at the mask Ayato is hugging. Arcanix said: There is no hope left, humanity is doomed, we are definitely going to blow our self up. Lol good job you made me laugh. Anyways Akira made it clear that the rabbit wearing the black mask is a different person so I thought that they called Ayato the black rabbit but I just checked the second to last page and they say Aogiri Tree's rabbit so yeah my bad it's Ayato. They should have given Ayato a different name, it would avoid confusion that way. omg he is really Ayato o.O im so careless that makes me pissed off :( ayato is black rabbit, touka is white rabbit. it seems ishida sensei is symbolizing somethings again :p |
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| Haise is too cute <3 Can't wait for the next chapter. |
ftsyzc said: ayato is black rabbit, touka is white rabbit. it seems ishida sensei is symbolizing somethings again :p That's not really new, is it? There's symbolism all over Ishida's work. Two siblings, two rabbits; one white, one black. It broke my heart when Haise cried because of Urie calling him a ghoul. He worked so hard and finally managed to reconcile his human side and his ghoul side in the prequel. And now he's back at square one. |
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| So Touka is also a SS rated ghoul now... interesting. Or the Rabbit they meant was her brother? This is mysterious... as always. |
b1GZZ said: So Touka is also a SS rated ghoul now... interesting. Or the Rabbit they meant was her brother? This is mysterious... as always. Akira said Aogiri Tree's Rabbit so yeah its Ayato and the only person in CCG who was totally aware of the fact that there are two Rabbit was Hide. |
| We can clearly see from the clothers that it's a man. |
| is Kaneki really happy ? feels in this chapter. is that Ayato at the end ? |
| -So apparently last week wasn't enough to convince people that Sasaki = Kaneki -_- This week: "I'm pretty sure he's the past me" should do it right? No more doubters? Please? Other than the trolls of course *cough*Arcanix*cough* -Shirazu is awesome and now has my respect. Hope he does well as a squad leader. I only see the tension between Urie and the rest growing, would be interesting if he tries to betray the squad later on. -The relationship between Arima and Sasaki is interesting. I'm not going so far to say Arima is his dad (seriously people?) but there definitely is a strong student/teacher bond going on. Good to see Arima cares about him as more than just a weapon to use against Aogiri, at least that's what it looks like right now. -Black Rabbit is definitely Ayato, not Touka, everyone calm down lol. We were like 99% sure Ayato was Black Rabbit in TG, why are people jumping off the bandwagon now? -Kaneki is going to be in serious trouble when he gets his identity back and stops rejecting his former self. There's no way he will be able to drop all of these real bonds he's made over the last two years as Sasaki, but at the same time there's Touka, Hinami, and the rest... He's going to be torn in two. |
CNTRI715 said: -So apparently last week wasn't enough to convince people that Sasaki = Kaneki -_- This week: "I'm pretty sure he's the past me" should do it right? No more doubters? Please? Other than the trolls of course *cough*Aracanix*cough* -Shirazu is awesome and now has my respect. Hope he does well as a squad leader. I only see the tension between Urie and the rest growing, would be interesting if he tries to betray the squad later on. -The relationship between Arima and Sasaki is interesting. I'm not going so far to say Arima is his dad (seriously people?) but there definitely is a strong student/teacher bond going on. Good to see Arima cares about him as more than just a weapon to use against Aogiri, at least that's what it looks like right now. -Black Rabbit is definitely Ayato, not Touka, everyone calm down lol. We were like 99% sure Ayato was Black Rabbit in TG, why are people jumping off the bandwagon now? -Kaneki is going to be in serious trouble when he gets his identity back and stops rejecting his former self. There's no way he will be able to drop all of these real bonds he's made over the last two years as Sasaki, but at the same time there's Touka, Hinami, and the rest... He's going to be torn in two. And what do you think about the Crossbreed story relation with Arima/Sasaki? |
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gabyta07 said: CNTRI715 said: -So apparently last week wasn't enough to convince people that Sasaki = Kaneki -_- This week: "I'm pretty sure he's the past me" should do it right? No more doubters? Please? Other than the trolls of course *cough*Aracanix*cough* -Shirazu is awesome and now has my respect. Hope he does well as a squad leader. I only see the tension between Urie and the rest growing, would be interesting if he tries to betray the squad later on. -The relationship between Arima and Sasaki is interesting. I'm not going so far to say Arima is his dad (seriously people?) but there definitely is a strong student/teacher bond going on. Good to see Arima cares about him as more than just a weapon to use against Aogiri, at least that's what it looks like right now. -Black Rabbit is definitely Ayato, not Touka, everyone calm down lol. We were like 99% sure Ayato was Black Rabbit in TG, why are people jumping off the bandwagon now? -Kaneki is going to be in serious trouble when he gets his identity back and stops rejecting his former self. There's no way he will be able to drop all of these real bonds he's made over the last two years as Sasaki, but at the same time there's Touka, Hinami, and the rest... He's going to be torn in two. And what do you think about the Crossbreed story relation with Arima/Sasaki? Yeah I noticed that and I also saw you guys talking about it a bit in the spoiler thread last night. I'll get back to you when I get a chance to read it :) Why? Are there father/son implications there? |
CNTRI715 said: gabyta07 said: And what do you think about the Crossbreed story relation with Arima/Sasaki? Yeah I noticed that and I also saw you guys talking about it a bit in the spoiler thread last night. I'll get back to you when I get a chance to read it :) Why? Are there father/son implications there? M More like a pet/owner relationship, where the pet is a family legacy. |
| "It's like Tolstoy said. Happiness is an allegory, unhappiness a story" "And the sense of tragedy-according to Aristotle.comes, ironically enough, not from the protagonist's weak points but from his good qualities. Do you know what I'm getting at? People are drawn deeper into tragedy not by their defects but by their virtues" Kafka on the shore by Haruki Murakami...the man that was the inspiration for Sen Takatsuki |
CNTRI715 said: Yeah I noticed that and I also saw you guys talking about it a bit in the spoiler thread last night. I'll get back to you when I get a chance to read it :) Why? Are there father/son implications there? The story kind of depicts the current tragic relationship of Arima and Kaneki. |
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