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moemio said: I LOLed. So Haruhi is a bitch too then.Kirino isn't tsundere, she is just a bitch. Kuroneko is the real tsundere in this show. |
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Siva said: Isn't she? Bossy, self-centered and loud. Yes, I have to say she is pretty much a bitch. Please disagree all you want Harutards.moemio said: I LOLed. So Haruhi is a bitch too then.Kirino isn't tsundere, she is just a bitch. Kuroneko is the real tsundere in this show. |
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| I want to like Kirino so much....but she's just so unlikeable. Please for once show some appreciation for others. |
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Leon-Gun said: Isn't she? Bossy, self-centered and loud. Yes, I have to say she is pretty much a bitch. Please disagree all you want Harutards. Haruhi is a God so her personality is justified no matter how bitchy she might be. Definitely not the case for Kirino and to be fair, I'm not even a fan of her. Just saiyan. |
Leon-Gun said: Siva said: Isn't she? Bossy, self-centered and loud. Yes, I have to say she is pretty much a bitch. Please disagree all you want Harutards.moemio said: I LOLed. So Haruhi is a bitch too then.Kirino isn't tsundere, she is just a bitch. Kuroneko is the real tsundere in this show. I definitely won't disagree, Haruhi is just another BITCH.... I never understood why people adore her so much... We need to draw the line between REAL tsunderes and PMS Bitches who love to rage at male characters. |
Leon-Gun said: I agree on both ends of Leon-Gun, Siva and meomio. I kind of like Kirino but truth hurts like shit and Kirino is very bitchy despite the appeals they do put the thick fog in front of her real self. I am sure the only time she might not be bitchy is if she had a girlfriend that to her is the most cutest person in the world. That would represent all the girls in her animes/eroges/mangas.Siva said: Isn't she? Bossy, self-centered and loud. Yes, I have to say she is pretty much a bitch. Please disagree all you want Harutards.moemio said: I LOLed. So Haruhi is a bitch too then.Kirino isn't tsundere, she is just a bitch. Kuroneko is the real tsundere in this show. Kuroneko is indeed the real Tsundere, I will not die that, she has it all regarding that class of girls. |
alexcampos said: Leon-Gun said: Siva said: Isn't she? Bossy, self-centered and loud. Yes, I have to say she is pretty much a bitch. Please disagree all you want Harutards.moemio said: I LOLed. So Haruhi is a bitch too then.Kirino isn't tsundere, she is just a bitch. Kuroneko is the real tsundere in this show. I definitely won't disagree, Haruhi is just another BITCH.... I never understood why people adore her so much... We need to draw the line between REAL tsunderes and PMS Bitches who love to rage at male characters. Some examples about how a tsundere should act : |
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| This episode was so annoying. The only part I liked was that we got to see more Kuroneko and Saori in this. Kyousuke does waaaay too much for Kirino and she barely appreciates any of it. I know she's a tsundere and all but this is just too much. I'll be kinda happy when this show is over, I've watched this many episode so I'm going to watch it to the end. |
-Quasar said: Oh yeah, there is a RIGHT way to bitch. Why didn't I even ever think about it for my entire life until now. Next time we will see someone says raping is NOT totally wrong either.*cross-finger*Haruhi is a God so her personality is justified no matter how bitchy she might be. Definitely not the case for Kirino and to be fair, I'm not even a fan of her. Just saiyan. |
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Siva said: Oh yeah, there is a RIGHT way to bitch. Why didn't I even ever think about it for my entire life until now. Next time we will see someone says raping is NOT totally wrong either.*cross-finger* Inevitable Fact: God can always do what they want and commoners, peons, creations, low-life don't have the right to say anything unless you become a God yourself or you're Kyon. |
| I love how Kuroneko bluffed the animators..xD I don't want to waste my time reading the previous comments anyway.. ===off-topic=== btw... If you guys hate watching bitchy shows then drop it already, that way it will produce lesser spam next episode discussion. |
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-Quasar said: Inevitable Fact? God can always do what they want?Inevitable Fact: God can always do what they want and commoners, peons, creations, low-life don't have the right to say anything unless you become a God yourself or you're Kyon. You can't be serious right? How can you call this Inevitable Fact when nobody can prove that GOD is actually exist? On the other hand, if you say god can always do what they want, then it is just your opinion nothing in there say that is the fact. And not everyone give a damn about Haruhi being a god or not. Cashdaxxx said: You don't stop watching a show just because there is a character you hate in the show, right?If you guys hate watching bitchy shows then drop it already, that way it will produce lesser spam next episode discussion. |
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Cashdaxxx said: If you guys hate watching bitchy shows then drop it already, that way it will produce lesser spam next episode discussion. I wonder why comment like this will appear when people comment some disatisfaction about an episode. So people couldn't write a comment about some elements of the show when they dislike it ??? Off course there're some people that watching some show just for bashing it. But there're many people that watch it for entertainment and somehow in the middle of the series they disappointed with the way the show goes and it would be too late to drop it. Some people also don't like to drop a show no matter how bad the anime is. There're still many type of people and many reasons behind it why they didn't drop the show when they dislike it. I'm just listing some of it. But Seriously, when people voicing some disatisfaction that indicate that there're some elements that they don't like in that anime and they just want to tell someone about it. Also it would be boring if in the discussion all of the people only comment something like "wow this is a really good eps bla bla bla". With some "negative" comments like that, some discussions will be generated and that's the purpose of this thread. Off course this sometimes leads to flame war. Sometimes the discussion goes off track too. But we have mods in here, they can straight things up if something goes in the wrong way. Also we have report button in here. If you think there're some things not fit in the discussion you can always click that button. Also, before you post this comment you should notice that there're are many people dislike this episode and most of them like this anime. There's something wrong about this episode and how this anime develops and they just show their concern about it. Tl,dr "If you don't like don't watch it" is the most lame comment ever. Now this is already goes off topic, but somehow I can't ignore comment like this >,<. |
RegulusNov 24, 2010 7:46 AM
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| I hope the enjoyment will not fade way after this kind of throwing of stones. -Quasar said: Haruhi is a God so her personality is justified no matter how bitchy she might be. Definitely not the case for Kirino and to be fair, I'm not even a fan of her. Just saiyan. Now that comment crossed the boundary. So what is God ? |
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Siva said: -Quasar said: Inevitable Fact? God can always do what they want?Inevitable Fact: God can always do what they want and commoners, peons, creations, low-life don't have the right to say anything unless you become a God yourself or you're Kyon. You can't be serious right? How can you call this Inevitable Fact when nobody can prove that GOD is actually exist? On the other hand, if you say god can always do what they want, then it is just your opinion nothing in there say that is the fact. And not everyone give a damn about Haruhi being a god or not. Oh wow! Gotta love the no sense of humor. :3 Oh by the way, it's called a "joke" google it. No need to go further from proving or disproving God existence. I mean seriously? :/ On-topic: Even though this episode is a disappointment coming from the previous one. Kuroneko more than made up for it so didn't care much how much of a bitch Kirino is this episode. |
| I can undestand that this episode had some flaws even if I liked it, but I can't understand how the ones who liked Kirino until this episode now hates her. Kirino always behaved real bad with Kyousuke and Kuroneko. I mean what kind of friend will write a novel as you being a sex slave? She didn't changed her personality or behavior only in this episode. She was always like this. |
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| not an interesting eps imo.. a crappy best seller novel made by kirino getting into anime prod is so meh for me. is this just my feeling or kirino is getting more and more annoying each episode? -_-" K0S-M0S said: It's kinda funny how imouto gets an anime while two boys keep working on getting their manga serialized. LOL!! XD |
rechajulayNov 24, 2010 8:43 AM
-Quasar said: You stated it bold and clear, then you expected me to take that as a joke? It is like hitting someone in the head at night and then in the morning you talk to him and tell him that was just a joke. Ok, I'm done with this.Oh wow! Gotta love the no sense of humor. :3 Oh by the way, it's called a "joke" google it. No need to go further from proving or disproving God existence. I mean seriously? :/ On-topic: Even though this episode is a disappointment coming from the previous one. Kuroneko more than made up for it so didn't care much how much of a bitch Kirino is this episode. Nephtys: Thanks for your time to write those things down and for you wasting your time to write something to those people who is not going read it and come back to post the same comment all over again. Frosti said: At least I am not one of those people. Well she can be cute at some point but other than that she is nothing more than just a character in the show to me.I can undestand that this episode had some flaws even if I liked it, but I can't understand how the ones who liked Kirino until this episode now hates her. Kirino always behaved real bad with Kyousuke and Kuroneko. I mean what kind of friend will write a novel as you being a sex slave? She didn't changed her personality or behavior only in this episode. She was always like this. |
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rechajulay said: K0S-M0S said: It's kinda funny how imouto gets an anime while two boys keep working on getting their manga serialized. LOL!! XD I bet the two boy will smash Kirino knowing how succesful she is.lol Even the director and Kuroneko is not satisfied with the Novel. Anyway,who cares about such small detail.Oreimouto has a good sells and the novel provide what the reader wants to read....I think people like to read Kirino's bitching and the Kyousuke's Endless Nagging.life can't go on without this =P |
K0S-M0S said: It's kinda funny how imouto gets an anime while two boys keep working on getting their manga serialized. ROFL .. xD |
MorningGlory said: rechajulay said: K0S-M0S said: It's kinda funny how imouto gets an anime while two boys keep working on getting their manga serialized. LOL!! XD I bet the two boy will smash Kirino knowing how succesful she is.lol Even the director and Kuroneko is not satisfied with the Novel. Anyway,who cares about such small detail.Oreimouto has a good sells and the novel provide what the reader wants to read....I think people like to read Kirino's bitching and the Kyousuke's Endless Nagging.life can't go on without this =P Compared to her success i am just a piece of trash ..........PEH!!! |
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K0S-M0S said: It's kinda funny how imouto gets an anime while two boys keep working on getting their manga serialized. Compared to her success rate i am just a piece of trash............PEH!!! |
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-Quasar said: Definitely not the case for Kirino and to be fair, I'm not even a fan of her. Just saiyan. Super Saiyan or normal Saiyan? |
| Episode ridiculous! I hated it, Kirino is a complete retarded. Woo, very realistic, a schoolgirl writes a novel and the day after this project becomes an anime, incredible! Kyousuke is stupid, and the staff finally decided to please the author and left behind the commercial purpose. Very good, congratulations to all who produce this great series! |
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Nephtys said: Very well said. Also, I'm sure most people here have hated Kirino for a while now. I myself tolerated her until she went full blown bitchy after the Manami-centric episode. She's way too full of herself, like a non-godess version of Haruhi. People didn't just wake up one-day and began to hate her, she just has become more unbearable as the episodes went by.Tl,dr "If you don't like don't watch it" is the most lame comment ever. Now this is already goes off topic, but somehow I can't ignore comment like this >,<. On that note, Kuroneko is lovely. |
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Nephtys said: Tl,dr "If you don't like don't watch it" is the most lame comment ever. Now this is already goes off topic, but somehow I can't ignore comment like this >,<. so you consider SPAMS AND FLAMES as NEGATIVE COMMENTS?? you knew that it would turn out to be like this, this thread is to be used as an episode discussion, not a spam. VOICE OUT? Don't misunderstood, somebody will post like "I don't like this anime" then what?? So I did some "VOICE OUTTING". It's COMMON sense not watch SOMETHING you hate right?? And I never knew that someone loves this anime while saying the characters as bitches. and LOL to people here that hates a character just because of his/her attitude. It's part of the story and marketing strategy. Tl;dr too stupid too sum it up: |
CashdaxNov 24, 2010 7:42 PM
| "Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5." |
Cashdaxxx said:  The word " I don't like this anime" I think it's pretty much the same with " I like this anime". When you consider "I don't like this anime" as a spam, I think " I like this anime" comment is a spam too. And you know what, we have some new rules about anime and manga discussion on here http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=26613. As you can see in point 3, single phrase response isn't encourge. But we can't expect people to write many words about an episode. There're some people who having a hard time expressing their opinion. But to tell them not to express their opinion at all is also isn't good imo. Now like I said before if you think some things isn't belong in this discussion there's report button in here. You can always click that button. Cashdaxxx said: It's COMMON sense not watch SOMETHING you hate right?? I laugh really hard when reading this. Even you have some anime with low score. And I ask you why did you still watch that anime till the end if you didn't like it? Why didn't you drop it? There're some reasons behind it right? AND SO DID OTHER PEOPLE, THEY HAVE SOME REASONS TOO TO STILL WATCH SOME ANIME THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE TILL THE END. And I get the feeling that this argument will always end up in the same loop all over again. So let's end this shall we. |
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thyyg said: Woo, very realistic, a schoolgirl writes a novel and the day after this project becomes an anime, incredible! Kyousuke is stupid, and the staff finally decided to please the author and left behind the commercial purpose. Very good, congratulations to all who produce this great series! There is no realistic and good explanation to people who are genius. Even no matter how hard Kuroneko or the director write their Novel, its impossible to make something as great as Kirino's Novel . and yeah, Genius can be very annoying when they are prideful and ego.Your feeling can be accepted, same as Kuroneko people who can read book which just one glance and can memorized the whole thing,or people who can do amazing fast calculation like IkaMusume....can't say this guy doesn't exist in the world. Even in my workplace, there is a genius which can do everything perfectly and have very good memory for most of the thing. Even thou I hate him, but in the end, I must support him because he is my colleague . It is even more painful to hurt him knowing that I hate him because of some stinking jealousy in my heart.Every people has a self-consciousness whether you like it or not. I think he is even more worse than Kirino, He doesn't hate me or say harsh word to me, but instead he totally ignore my existence...and sometimes will spread some bad rumor about me...hehe >.>" |
MorningGloryNov 24, 2010 8:48 PM
| lol you ppl need to chill ...... btw i like this ep ^^ |
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Nephtys said: Cashdaxxx said: It's COMMON sense not watch SOMETHING you hate right?? I laugh really hard when reading this. Even you have some anime with low score. And I ask you why did you still watch that anime till the end if you didn't like it? Why didn't you drop it? There're some reasons behind it right? AND SO DID OTHER PEOPLE, THEY HAVE SOME REASONS TOO TO STILL WATCH SOME ANIME THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE TILL THE END. And I get the feeling that this argument will always end up in the same loop all over again. So let's end this shall we. OFF-TOPIC And sorry for the posts...CAPS... |
CashdaxNov 24, 2010 9:37 PM
| "Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5." |
Cashdaxxx said: It's COMMON sense not watch SOMETHING you hate right?? Lol, you really messed up with which words to stress. Cashdaxxx said: And I never knew that someone loves this anime while saying the characters as bitches. and LOL to people here that hates a character just because of his/her attitude. It's part of the story and marketing strategy. Wow, just wow. I guess MAL may as well delete their discussion forums, because there's no point having an opinion on anything - because it's all just part of the marketing strategy. |
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| Kirino is so awesome :P |
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| Emo Kuroneko. |
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| "Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5." |
| It was simply, Meh. |
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| Man, Okazaki Tomoya is such a pro at life. Suigintou really made this episode great though, saying the best things of all the anime. Kirino is blessed with many things that she does need to kicked into the mud a few more times. |
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| Does the guys in begining of the episodes wre the manga editors in bakuman anime?! |
| @ DuroDeMatar: I thought the gundam type robots in the begining might of been a spoiler related to Kirino's anime, but meh, -shrugs- who knows |
| By the way, where can I watch episodes with English subtitle? Is there any famous fun-sub site? I’d like to check some of those. It is amazing that you can see subbed ones in a few days after broadcasting. The one I found had high quality translation. |
Leon-Gun said: I'm not exactly happy about the episode as a whole, but there were some valid points as well. The anime staff wanted to just use the novel's universe as a base and basically ignore the actual novel, practically creating a new show altogether. That's not an adaptation, that a spin-off and it was nice to see that they fought to keep things like the main effing character of the story intact. They should have pushed a little further and also made people realize some things HAVE to be slightly altered but well, I guess we need Kirino to have her way for now. This reminds me of Fate/Stay Night... The original protagonist was supposed to be a girl and her Servant (a heroic being that protects the character) a male. However the author was advised to switch their genders to better appeal for the male demographic, since it is an Eroge (even though I'd refrain from calling Fate an eroge because it's so much more than that. There's very little sex in it, and the story isn't built around the sex like many other eroges, quite to the contrary, it is only an added extra and the epic story would be just fine without it). Now to the episode: 1- My first reaction was "wtf, an anime?". This was simply thrown right at us without any sort of previous development leading to this point. Feels like an interdimensional black hole just opened and sucked the characters into a completely different universe or something, it just doesn't feel like the story we have been accompanying thus far. I hope it gets back to the original world in episode 9... 2- Kirino's endless blabbing about her anime demands made me VERY annoyed. She jabbers on for almost 2 minutes in total. I couldn't refrain myself from actually shouting at the monitor "shut up already you fucking bitch!". This is why I think she isn't a Mary Sue, in fact the author wants us to dislike Kirino by making her annoyingness so evident. 3- Kuroneko totally owned that glasses guy's butt. I'm not as big a fan of Kuroneko as most other people in this thread (I find her frequent "I'm not doing this for you, I just happen to be bored today" attitude quite stupid), but she does get the props from me this time. 4- Kyosuke's "I hate Kirino" is absolutely out of place. Very fail on the studio's part of not having hinted toward this fact in previous episodes. 5- One thing I enjoyed in this episode though was the metalanguage (anime speaking about the difficulties of making anime). I find that it's the production crew's way of indirectly apologizing to us that they are bound by the same problems of everyone else, having to adapt the light novel to better suit the public's taste and being time-constrainted (only having 13 episodes to adapt a much bigger novel). Concessions have to be made. Maybe this answers what I stated in paragraph 1-, they'd have to sacrifice airtime to build up a convincing development, taking out from other aspects of the story. 6- Also, I don't see any possibility of Kuroneko and Kyousuke developing a romantic relationship as some people here seem to be hoping for. That would be really awkward and wouldn't fit how things have been going up to now. |
KelvetsNov 25, 2010 2:39 PM
| omg omg omg!!! i super duper loved this episode..! now i'm wishing harder that i had a brother like kyousuke.. :O he's awesome..! also, i've loved kuroneko from the start, but now i love her even more.. for me she's just too realistic, as i think what she thinks.. i think i identify with her a lot.. 4 eps to go... NOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
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| Kuroneko ftw. Forget Kirino. This show is all about the non-main characters who are actually main characters. Nah, just joking about that part. Kuroneko was awesome, though. I think of Kyousuke's excuse as completely acceptable: you can't ignore your blood-related, it's still family after all. |
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Kread-EX said: Kelvets said: 6- Also, I don't see any possibility of Kuroneko and Kyousuke developing a romantic relationship as some people here seem to be hoping for. That would be really awkward and wouldn't fit how things have been going up to now. NOOOO! EVIL QUOTE SYSTEM IS EVIL! I was just gonna quote this post without seeing what's in the spoiler, but when the post typing box came up it showed what's inside regardless! Moderator-san said: Just a little reminder for everyone to keep discussion civil and on-topic in this and every thread. Consider this a warning. Err... k? I haven't seen anyone going off-topic or offending anyone... |
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