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Sep 28, 9:36 AM
#51
Oh interesting seeing this series getting animated. I remember reading part of this a while back. Then I was quite into isekai and such and maybe was looking for something kinda like Overlord and this scratched that itch. Kinda just randomly stopped at some point though. Good first ep lets see how things go. I wonder if they will be the only player like Ainz? or will the other heroes be players as well? The NPCs seems to have a life of their own as well. The interesting thing is the memories and sense of nostalgia. Seems the actual Lufas existed as well in a way? At the very least seems like overpowered fantasy fun |
Sep 28, 10:02 AM
#52
Finally found it, although it didn't appear on my New Shows on Crunchy yesterday. Cannot say that surprises me. Well, I'm a day late on it. She gives a new meaning to the two letters OP. LOL Just hope it doesn't get TOO predictible. |
Sep 28, 10:19 AM
#53
Reply to Sheol01
Finally found it, although it didn't appear on my New Shows on Crunchy yesterday. Cannot say that surprises me. Well, I'm a day late on it.
She gives a new meaning to the two letters OP. LOL
Just hope it doesn't get TOO predictible.
She gives a new meaning to the two letters OP. LOL
Just hope it doesn't get TOO predictible.
@Sheol01 the fights may be predictable, but in term of story, it's difficult to predict. Not impossible, but difficult. |
Sep 28, 3:01 PM
#54
Overlord, but with Booba. and the animation and characters look amazing. i couldn't ask for more. xD |
Sep 28, 4:06 PM
#55
uncleqrow said: @AllGamer agreed... the tsukkomi are weaker in the anime... Ah... Dina... Dina... now I remember the stories... @CheliosX IDK who that is or how OP he is, but I agree that Lufasu is one the strongest isekai MC out there... (at least if we only consider combat-wise, and at least in her peak-self) you don't know Yogiri Takatou? Instant Death Ability guy? woah. alright then. |
Sep 28, 4:42 PM
#56
Reply to CheliosX
uncleqrow said:
@AllGamer agreed... the tsukkomi are weaker in the anime...
Ah... Dina... Dina... now I remember the stories...
@CheliosX IDK who that is or how OP he is, but I agree that Lufasu is one the strongest isekai MC out there... (at least if we only consider combat-wise, and at least in her peak-self)
@AllGamer agreed... the tsukkomi are weaker in the anime...
Ah... Dina... Dina... now I remember the stories...
@CheliosX IDK who that is or how OP he is, but I agree that Lufasu is one the strongest isekai MC out there... (at least if we only consider combat-wise, and at least in her peak-self)
you don't know Yogiri Takatou? Instant Death Ability guy? woah. alright then.
@CheliosX Lufas is absurdly strong even for Isekais standards of absurdity, you have no idea. |
Sep 28, 4:47 PM
#57
groudonvert said: @CheliosX Lufas is absurdly strong even for Isekais standards of absurdity, you have no idea. i do because I've known about Luphas for 2 years now and I've read everything about her on vs battle wiki plus I'm reading the LN? that's why i said she's the only isekai protagonist i consider being very very close to Yogiri Takatou in terms of OP-ness. |
Sep 28, 5:17 PM
#58
Reply to CheliosX
groudonvert said:
@CheliosX
Lufas is absurdly strong even for Isekais standards of absurdity, you have no idea.
@CheliosX
Lufas is absurdly strong even for Isekais standards of absurdity, you have no idea.
i do because I've known about Luphas for 2 years now and I've read everything about her on vs battle wiki plus I'm reading the LN? that's why i said she's the only isekai protagonist i consider being very very close to Yogiri Takatou in terms of OP-ness.
@CheliosX Yeah well the battle wiki (and the wiki of the series itself) are not very accurate about Alovenus's |
Sep 28, 5:19 PM
#59
groudonvert said: @CheliosX Yeah well the battle wiki (and the wiki of the series itself) are not very accurate about Alovenus's well aware of that. I do have a grasp of her powers though. still consider her close to Yogiri. all good ig. |
Sep 28, 5:46 PM
#60
Reply to CheliosX
groudonvert said:
@CheliosX
Yeah well the battle wiki (and the wiki of the series itself) are not very accurate about
Alovenus's power. So it's very difficult to actually say how strong Lufas is.
@CheliosX
Yeah well the battle wiki (and the wiki of the series itself) are not very accurate about
Alovenus's
well aware of that. I do have a grasp of her powers though. still consider her close to Yogiri. all good ig.
@CheliosX With how the person in spoilers powers work, I don't think Yogiri would be able to kill that person. In spoiler, a quote of the person Lufas manage to defeat, no story spoilers, don't worry. If you don't want to read the entire thing, only the last part matters. Even if there was someone labeled as the strongest among these characters in a setting this overwhelming, things would be flipped upside down by nothing but a word from the author, or in other words, God. That being that there was an even stronger character able to defeat the first character with but one punch. Just like that, another powerhouse would appear. Then that fourth powerhouse gets treated like a child by a fifth, who is then unable to react to the speed at which a sixth fights. Then the sixth character gets killed a hundred times by a single forehead flick from a seventh, who can't even lift a finger against an eighth, who equals a ninth in strength. Then, even if there was a hundred of the ninth character they would get trampled by a tenth, who can be erased in a single breath by an eleventh... Hee hee hee. doesn't that sound rather common in fiction ? This is all just the product of childish arguments. I'm sure [...] did it as well when they were young, Lufas. Imagine two young children. One pretends to attack with some sort of awesome beam, but the other defends against it with an equally awesome barrier. Then the first child claims their beam can easily break through any barrier, causing the second child to insist that their barrier is an invicible one still capable of blocking it. That just causes the the child on the offensive to get angry and stubborn, and they continue to selfishly insist that their beam can break the barrier no matter how invincible it is. Then, the second child tries to insist that their barrier will never break, no matter what... There is no end to this. 'I cannot lose. There's no reason I would Even if there were, I could just go above it I can make as many setting where I am the strongest as I please reason is nothing Providence is nothing.' I'll start by telling you this: my power is endless. I can layer setting upon setting. For example, even if you [...] managed to obtain some sort of ability or power to defeat me, I would be able to answer it by saying, "Those abilities and power will not work on me. I am strong enough to defeat you all with a single one of my fingers." Do you think it childish ? Well that's because it is, I won't deny it. But things like this are far more powerful than pretending, unmoving settings that go on forever. |
Sep 28, 5:56 PM
#61
groudonvert said: @CheliosX With how the person in spoilers powers work, I don't think Yogiri would be able to kill that person. In spoiler, a quote of the person Lufas manage to defeat, no story spoilers, don't worry. If you don't want to read the entire thing, only the last part matters. Even if there was someone labeled as the strongest among these characters in a setting this overwhelming, things would be flipped upside down by nothing but a word from the author, or in other words, God. That being that there was an even stronger character able to defeat the first character with but one punch. Just like that, another powerhouse would appear. Then that fourth powerhouse gets treated like a child by a fifth, who is then unable to react to the speed at which a sixth fights. Then the sixth character gets killed a hundred times by a single forehead flick from a seventh, who can't even lift a finger against an eighth, who equals a ninth in strength. Then, even if there was a hundred of the ninth character they would get trampled by a tenth, who can be erased in a single breath by an eleventh... Hee hee hee. doesn't that sound rather common in fiction ? This is all just the product of childish arguments. I'm sure [...] did it as well when they were young, Lufas. Imagine two young children. One pretends to attack with some sort of awesome beam, but the other defends against it with an equally awesome barrier. Then the first child claims their beam can easily break through any barrier, causing the second child to insist that their barrier is an invicible one still capable of blocking it. That just causes the the child on the offensive to get angry and stubborn, and they continue to selfishly insist that their beam can break the barrier no matter how invincible it is. Then, the second child tries to insist that their barrier will never break, no matter what... There is no end to this. 'I cannot lose. There's no reason I would Even if there were, I could just go above it I can make as many setting where I am the strongest as I please reason is nothing Providence is nothing.' I'll start by telling you this: my power is endless. I can layer setting upon setting. For example, even if you [...] managed to obtain some sort of ability or power to defeat me, I would be able to answer it by saying, "Those abilities and power will not work on me. I am strong enough to defeat you all with a single one of my fingers." Do you think it childish ? Well that's because it is, I won't deny it. But things like this are far more powerful than pretending, unmoving settings that go on forever. it's fine though. to each their own in the end. |
Sep 28, 5:59 PM
#62
Reply to CheliosX
groudonvert said:
@CheliosX
With how the person in spoilers powers work, I don't think Yogiri would be able to kill that person. In spoiler, a quote of the person Lufas manage to defeat, no story spoilers, don't worry. If you don't want to read the entire thing, only the last part matters.
@CheliosX
With how the person in spoilers powers work, I don't think Yogiri would be able to kill that person. In spoiler, a quote of the person Lufas manage to defeat, no story spoilers, don't worry. If you don't want to read the entire thing, only the last part matters.
Even if there was someone labeled as the strongest among these characters in a setting this overwhelming, things would be flipped upside down by nothing but a word from the author, or in other words, God. That being that there was an even stronger character able to defeat the first character with but one punch.
Just like that, another powerhouse would appear. Then that fourth powerhouse gets treated like a child by a fifth, who is then unable to react to the speed at which a sixth fights. Then the sixth character gets killed a hundred times by a single forehead flick from a seventh, who can't even lift a finger against an eighth, who equals a ninth in strength. Then, even if there was a hundred of the ninth character they would get trampled by a tenth, who can be erased in a single breath by an eleventh... Hee hee hee. doesn't that sound rather common in fiction ?
This is all just the product of childish arguments. I'm sure [...] did it as well when they were young, Lufas. Imagine two young children. One pretends to attack with some sort of awesome beam, but the other defends against it with an equally awesome barrier. Then the first child claims their beam can easily break through any barrier, causing the second child to insist that their barrier is an invicible one still capable of blocking it. That just causes the the child on the offensive to get angry and stubborn, and they continue to selfishly insist that their beam can break the barrier no matter how invincible it is. Then, the second child tries to insist that their barrier will never break, no matter what... There is no end to this.
'I cannot lose. There's no reason I would Even if there were, I could just go above it I can make as many setting where I am the strongest as I please reason is nothing Providence is nothing.'
I'll start by telling you this: my power is endless. I can layer setting upon setting. For example, even if you [...] managed to obtain some sort of ability or power to defeat me, I would be able to answer it by saying, "Those abilities and power will not work on me. I am strong enough to defeat you all with a single one of my fingers." Do you think it childish ? Well that's because it is, I won't deny it. But things like this are far more powerful than pretending, unmoving settings that go on forever.
Just like that, another powerhouse would appear. Then that fourth powerhouse gets treated like a child by a fifth, who is then unable to react to the speed at which a sixth fights. Then the sixth character gets killed a hundred times by a single forehead flick from a seventh, who can't even lift a finger against an eighth, who equals a ninth in strength. Then, even if there was a hundred of the ninth character they would get trampled by a tenth, who can be erased in a single breath by an eleventh... Hee hee hee. doesn't that sound rather common in fiction ?
This is all just the product of childish arguments. I'm sure [...] did it as well when they were young, Lufas. Imagine two young children. One pretends to attack with some sort of awesome beam, but the other defends against it with an equally awesome barrier. Then the first child claims their beam can easily break through any barrier, causing the second child to insist that their barrier is an invicible one still capable of blocking it. That just causes the the child on the offensive to get angry and stubborn, and they continue to selfishly insist that their beam can break the barrier no matter how invincible it is. Then, the second child tries to insist that their barrier will never break, no matter what... There is no end to this.
'I cannot lose. There's no reason I would Even if there were, I could just go above it I can make as many setting where I am the strongest as I please reason is nothing Providence is nothing.'
I'll start by telling you this: my power is endless. I can layer setting upon setting. For example, even if you [...] managed to obtain some sort of ability or power to defeat me, I would be able to answer it by saying, "Those abilities and power will not work on me. I am strong enough to defeat you all with a single one of my fingers." Do you think it childish ? Well that's because it is, I won't deny it. But things like this are far more powerful than pretending, unmoving settings that go on forever.
it's fine though. to each their own in the end.
@CheliosX This quote pretty much decides who's the strongest Isekai MC ^^' |
Sep 28, 6:01 PM
#63
far from it reslly. the answer to this will always be subjective as people, you and i included, have different takes on that. i say Yogiri, you say Luphas, some will say Rimuru or Anos. so, again, to each their own. |
Sep 28, 6:15 PM
#64
Reply to CheliosX
far from it reslly. the answer to this will always be subjective as people, you and i included, have different takes on that. i say Yogiri, you say Luphas, some will say Rimuru or Anos.
so, again, to each their own.
@CheliosX To beat someone like that you need to be able to Rewrite reality itself (and have a better imagination) |
Sep 28, 6:17 PM
#65
groudonvert said: @CheliosX To beat someone like that you need to be able to Rewrite reality itself (and have a better imagination) lol, it's fine, bud. this is a comment section about the first episode. not who's stronger between 2 characters. I love Luphas and i consider her to be very close to Yogiri in terms of OP-ness. it's all good. 😂👍🏾 |
Sep 28, 8:15 PM
#66
Pretty good first episode, not sure it really needed the isekai aspect though I suppose it's a matter of waiting and seeing if they do anything interesting with it. |
Sep 29, 5:27 AM
#68
I like how they seamlessly made me think that it was just a normal fantasy then they transitioned into it being a game. |
Sep 29, 9:02 AM
#69
This was interesting and enjoyable start to the anime and I am going to continue watching the show. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Sep 29, 10:46 AM
#70
Reply to AinzenLance
I like how they seamlessly made me think that it was just a normal fantasy then they transitioned into it being a game.
That's the worst part in this first episode and probably in this entire show. It looks like any generic isekai series, and that's not a compliment. |
Sep 29, 10:55 AM
#71
Sep 29, 12:02 PM
#72
Reply to Fenou
That's the worst part in this first episode and probably in this entire show.
It looks like any generic isekai series, and that's not a compliment.
It looks like any generic isekai series, and that's not a compliment.
@Fenou Did you read the Light Novel ? For me it's a genius move. |
Sep 29, 12:03 PM
#73
Reply to YuRiie
As a overlord fan myself,I disturbingly found myself comparing every detail to Overlord. I mean, like, every scene. I hope this only happens in episode 1 so I can enjoy the rest more
@YuRiie Well the big difference with Overlord is that Lufas already conquered the world and lost the final battle. She's also known by the entire population and her minions are scattered around the world. It kinda looks like Overlord, but the comparison ends very quickly. |
Sep 29, 12:11 PM
#74
I remember the manga was on hiatus for sometime and then just got continued recently, really good manga fr. So far I'm okay with how the studio adapts, just hope they can portray how terrifying Lufas could be |
Sep 29, 12:53 PM
#75
Reply to CheliosX
uncleqrow said:
@AllGamer agreed... the tsukkomi are weaker in the anime...
Ah... Dina... Dina... now I remember the stories...
@CheliosX IDK who that is or how OP he is, but I agree that Lufasu is one the strongest isekai MC out there... (at least if we only consider combat-wise, and at least in her peak-self)
@AllGamer agreed... the tsukkomi are weaker in the anime...
Ah... Dina... Dina... now I remember the stories...
@CheliosX IDK who that is or how OP he is, but I agree that Lufasu is one the strongest isekai MC out there... (at least if we only consider combat-wise, and at least in her peak-self)
you don't know Yogiri Takatou? Instant Death Ability guy? woah. alright then.
@CheliosX yeah, no one is as OP as that guy, he is literally death itself 😅 |
Sep 29, 1:58 PM
#76
haha, exactly, man. you get it. |
Sep 29, 2:17 PM
#77
I don't often give good rating after just one episode. Last Boss gets one for good art, writing and engaging characters. I am eager to see more of Lufas & Dinah's adventures. |
Sep 29, 2:25 PM
#78
Reply to WarriorReborn140
It seems the main protagonist hasn't realized that he/she has been referring to themselves as "us".
@WarriorReborn140 I had not thought of that. I assumed that an OP being like Lufas was using the royal "we". Let's see which it is. |
Sep 29, 3:33 PM
#79
Gotta wonder how the advisor managed to waste an entire nation's wealth, even in 200 years. just supporting herself. If anything it should have gone up, even if if they lost everything outside the tower itself. 1 person just doesn't spend that much. Maybe she's got a gambling addiction. Also, not really sure why Lufas needs to earn money when she can just fly to the first of her 12 minions who currently rules an active nation. Oh, right, so that the story can happen. Anyways, that aside, it seems fun enough so far. I like that Lufas is aware of her power and not bumbling around like an idiot the way some shows would have done it. The dynamic where the heroes were the MC's friends pretending to be the MC's enemies is interesting, since it means the MC can't be sure if they're enemies or allies. |
Sep 29, 5:19 PM
#80
Interesting start, especially the part where players got into factions and had a blast fighting each other. Totally ignored the really boss. |
Sep 29, 5:32 PM
#81
Did the player need to be male for his female game character? All it does is create jarring voice change switches with the inner monologue and one "I have boobs now" joke. |
Sep 29, 5:42 PM
#82
Yeah that was just awful. Nothing like a shitty version of Overlord to start the new season. Looks like i found my 1st drop. |
Sep 29, 7:28 PM
#83
Reply to billybub
Yeah that was just awful. Nothing like a shitty version of Overlord to start the new season. Looks like i found my 1st drop.
@billybub A Wild Last Boss Appeared starts when Ainz finishes his conquest and is defeated at the peak of his strength. So nothing in common with Overlord. @broodwarjc Yes it was needed, same thing for the fact it's an Isekai. |
Sep 30, 12:13 PM
#84
Aqua-chan!? Er... Dina! Ahh, such nostalgia! It's been a while since we've had an isekai anime like this. I really enjoyed the first episode, and I'm excited to see what's next <3 |
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Sep 30, 6:39 PM
#85
Skuvan said: Typical transmigration prologue, though I do love the gender-bender aspect. These kinds of anime are so rare nowadays that you can hardly find any, so it’s nice to finally get one after so long. That said, I’m not sure how I feel about the heroine constantly referring to herself as “we”. A bit weird, but meh. It's odd, but it appears to be a use of the royal "we." It makes sense when giving a character a regal vibe, but the practice has been out of use in English for so long that it's more likely to just confuse the average person. |
Sep 30, 6:53 PM
#86
Reply to BadDecisionFan
Skuvan said:
Typical transmigration prologue, though I do love the gender-bender aspect. These kinds of anime are so rare nowadays that you can hardly find any, so it’s nice to finally get one after so long. That said, I’m not sure how I feel about the heroine constantly referring to herself as “we”. A bit weird, but meh.
Typical transmigration prologue, though I do love the gender-bender aspect. These kinds of anime are so rare nowadays that you can hardly find any, so it’s nice to finally get one after so long. That said, I’m not sure how I feel about the heroine constantly referring to herself as “we”. A bit weird, but meh.
It's odd, but it appears to be a use of the royal "we." It makes sense when giving a character a regal vibe, but the practice has been out of use in English for so long that it's more likely to just confuse the average person.
@BadDecisionFan The thing is, the pronouns she’s using don’t actually mean “we” and “y’all”. She uses sonata for “you” and ware for “I”. I’m sure you’ve heard those pronouns in other anime before. They’re just old-fashioned, usually spoken by older or ancient characters, but they don’t mean “we” and “y’all”. |
Sep 30, 9:30 PM
#88
Reply to Dreadogastus_F
@WarriorReborn140 I had not thought of that. I assumed that an OP being like Lufas was using the royal "we". Let's see which it is.
@Dreadogastus_F I think it is the royal "we" In the manga, the MC mentioned that he designed the character to speak this way and he needs to get into character. It's nothing to do with the genderswap or having 2 minds with different genders or anything |
Sep 30, 10:08 PM
#89
Reply to Sam972016
@Dreadogastus_F I think it is the royal "we"
In the manga, the MC mentioned that he designed the character to speak this way and he needs to get into character.
It's nothing to do with the genderswap or having 2 minds with different genders or anything
In the manga, the MC mentioned that he designed the character to speak this way and he needs to get into character.
It's nothing to do with the genderswap or having 2 minds with different genders or anything
@Sam972016 He can't control Lufas's speech pattern though. |
Sep 30, 10:09 PM
#90
Reply to Skuvan
@BadDecisionFan The thing is, the pronouns she’s using don’t actually mean “we” and “y’all”. She uses sonata for “you” and ware for “I”. I’m sure you’ve heard those pronouns in other anime before. They’re just old-fashioned, usually spoken by older or ancient characters, but they don’t mean “we” and “y’all”.
@Skuvan Yeah it's something we see in other animes, but you can't really translate that in English. So either they don't bother with that (like the French subtitles lol) or they try to find an other way around. |
Sep 30, 10:31 PM
#91
It doesn't feel like generic isekai slop, so that's a big win so far in my book, source material doesn't look that promising, but I'm on board. |
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Sep 30, 10:34 PM
#92
Reply to phantomfandom
The first episode reminds me a lot of Leadale no Daichi nite, if you have watch Leadale you know what I'm talking about.
The first three minutes have top-notch animation, the rest of the episode is also pretty good even if it's not on the same level as its first three minutes.
What I hate is how the main character's gender get changed without their consent, but to be fair he's highly adapt to the situation to the point that he seems happy about being Lufas. Though there are already several hints that Lufas's original soul might also be in that body, which mean this is not exactly a reincarnation but more of a "take a complete control of your character" situation.
I hope the era in this new world is a peaceful one, I'd still feel bad if war breaks out and a lot of people died even if this world is closer to the existing video game than actual new world. I'm wondering if "revive" system exist (not the same kind of hero summoning ritual) but that would be too soon to ask.
The first three minutes have top-notch animation, the rest of the episode is also pretty good even if it's not on the same level as its first three minutes.
What I hate is how the main character's gender get changed without their consent, but to be fair he's highly adapt to the situation to the point that he seems happy about being Lufas. Though there are already several hints that Lufas's original soul might also be in that body, which mean this is not exactly a reincarnation but more of a "take a complete control of your character" situation.
I hope the era in this new world is a peaceful one, I'd still feel bad if war breaks out and a lot of people died even if this world is closer to the existing video game than actual new world. I'm wondering if "revive" system exist (not the same kind of hero summoning ritual) but that would be too soon to ask.
@phantomfandom Consent? Nah that's what you get for playing female characters because their ass is nicer to look at. lol |
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Oct 1, 12:25 AM
#93
If they keep up the level of splatter I might just watch it for that ;) |
Oct 1, 5:44 AM
#94
Seeing this kind of story makes me hate what the popularity of Isekai has done to anime and manga. These kinds of stories make me think the author was too much of a coward to do a straight fantasy story, they felt like they had to write an Isekai twist into it. Nowadays most Isekai fantasy just rely on the Isekai trope as a crutch for an otherwise boring/bad fantasy. Though there are a few ones like this one, where the fantasy aspect would be just fine on it's own, and adding the Isekai twist is just needlessly polluting the story. And I especially dislike it when the personality of the MC isn't even allowed to play a part in the story because of shenanigans with the character they've taken over as. Why even have it be an Isekai then? Just have the MC be that actual character. Overlord has this same problem. The Isekai aspect could be removed entirely and it wouldn't change much in regards to the story beats. |
Oct 1, 7:23 AM
#95
To be fair, it's not the worst power trip ever produced. It was quite boring, though. (I'm not what you'd call "excitable.") This first episode commits several storytelling crimes, but what really annoyed me was how much they spelled things out. How stupid do they think their audience is? Apparently it's a manga. So: dumbed down for TV, or is the source also bad? |
Oct 1, 7:27 AM
#96
Reply to groudonvert
@theodoris
This is not a Overlord clone.
This is not a Overlord clone.
@groudonvert The idea of has crossed my mind too (the looking for other players part). Then again, that'd be the one logical thing to do in that situation. (I suspect that the fact the protagonist is not a drooling moron is why I was able to watch the episode despite all the flaws.) |
Oct 1, 8:15 AM
#97
Reply to Hurrikhan
To be fair, it's not the worst power trip ever produced.
It was quite boring, though. (I'm not what you'd call "excitable.")
This first episode commits several storytelling crimes, but what really annoyed me was how much they spelled things out.
How stupid do they think their audience is?
Apparently it's a manga. So: dumbed down for TV, or is the source also bad?
It was quite boring, though. (I'm not what you'd call "excitable.")
This first episode commits several storytelling crimes, but what really annoyed me was how much they spelled things out.
How stupid do they think their audience is?
Apparently it's a manga. So: dumbed down for TV, or is the source also bad?
Hurrikhan said: This first episode commits several storytelling crimes, but what really annoyed me was how much they spelled things out. How stupid do they think their audience is? Apparently it's a manga. So: dumbed down for TV, or is the source also bad? Could you please explain what you mean by storytelling crimes ? How are you able to say a story is bad with only one episode ? Also the source material is a Light Novel. The series ended 6 years ago. |
Oct 1, 9:56 AM
#98
Reply to groudonvert
Hurrikhan said:
This first episode commits several storytelling crimes, but what really annoyed me was how much they spelled things out.
How stupid do they think their audience is?
Apparently it's a manga. So: dumbed down for TV, or is the source also bad?
This first episode commits several storytelling crimes, but what really annoyed me was how much they spelled things out.
How stupid do they think their audience is?
Apparently it's a manga. So: dumbed down for TV, or is the source also bad?
Could you please explain what you mean by storytelling crimes ?
How are you able to say a story is bad with only one episode ?
Also the source material is a Light Novel. The series ended 6 years ago.
@groudonvert The plot feels mechanical, moving from one pre-set event to the next instead of unfolding organically. The episode is full of clichéd, shortcut devices typical of weak or inexperienced writing. Also / e.g.
Watching it I could plainly see each scene or action forced to reach a specific (and usually pretty weak) outcome. (To be fair, I've read or watched innumerable stories for over half a century. One tends to learn patterns.) I've just noticed: the servant, another item that could point to an Overlord inspiration. Not that I believe it is the intent. I'd attribute it to "l'intertextualité" (assuming you understand French, given your name) edit: At least I've not noticed knowledge gap violation, which is worse than all of the above and yet, sadly, not uncommon. (so ... yay?) |
HurrikhanOct 1, 10:02 AM
Oct 1, 10:34 AM
#99
Refering to self as "we" is annoing. Episode feels like 2-3 eps chopped to one, like someone couldnt decide between introduction and action (i understand you dont want first ep to be boring). There is clear similarity to overlord, scenes looks/feels similar, but overall im waiting for next ep! Aqua is penniless, what a surprise xD |
Oct 1, 11:21 AM
#100
Reply to Hurrikhan
@groudonvert
The plot feels mechanical, moving from one pre-set event to the next instead of unfolding organically.
The episode is full of clichéd, shortcut devices typical of weak or inexperienced writing.
Also / e.g.
Watching it I could plainly see each scene or action forced to reach a specific (and usually pretty weak) outcome.
(To be fair, I've read or watched innumerable stories for over half a century. One tends to learn patterns.)
I've just noticed: the servant, another item that could point to an Overlord inspiration. Not that I believe it is the intent. I'd attribute it to "l'intertextualité" (assuming you understand French, given your name)
edit:
At least I've not noticed knowledge gap violation, which is worse than all of the above and yet, sadly, not uncommon. (so ... yay?)
The plot feels mechanical, moving from one pre-set event to the next instead of unfolding organically.
The episode is full of clichéd, shortcut devices typical of weak or inexperienced writing.
Also / e.g.
- protagonist finds himself in the body of the opposite sex and gives it barely a shrug (no inner conflict, no personality, unrealistic, not relatable)
- protagonist is instantly and insanely OP: no stakes, no challenge, no struggle (flat, bland, empty)
- protagonist feels "nostalgic" about something that was "minutes" ago for him (feeling forced upon him) and I believe there was at least one case of lampshading (stating something that makes no sense is happening in an attempt to hide the lazy writing)
- protagonist conveniently forgets he has put an NPC (as furniture) in his lair and doesn't immediately recognize her (which helps shoehorning an awkward scene)
- protagonist actions are barely motivated (I wont dismantle minute by minute: I don't have the time)
- a lot of exposition exposition exposition (yet another one that never heard of "show don't tell")
Watching it I could plainly see each scene or action forced to reach a specific (and usually pretty weak) outcome.
(To be fair, I've read or watched innumerable stories for over half a century. One tends to learn patterns.)
I've just noticed: the servant, another item that could point to an Overlord inspiration. Not that I believe it is the intent. I'd attribute it to "l'intertextualité" (assuming you understand French, given your name)
edit:
At least I've not noticed knowledge gap violation, which is worse than all of the above and yet, sadly, not uncommon. (so ... yay?)
@Hurrikhan I won't go too far in the Isekai part, but there's a reason behind everything (the inner conflict, the personnality forced upon him, the nostalgia, the gender bending)... even the fact she doesn't remember Dina has a reason. For the exposition, the episode starts with an fight where we don't know anything about. Then the different factions are introduced (even the 12 heavenly stars were introduced earlier). I understand (and speak) French, but I don't get what you mean xD A Wild Last Boss Appeared is in my personnal top 5 Isekais and the reason is because the writing, the worldbuilding, the mysteries and the story are amazing. The author knew where he was going and didn't need to expand the story to unbelievable level like we can see with other popular Isekais like Tatei No Yusha or Tensura. Not that I don't like them, but I didn't feel the necessacity to watch more than the first 2 seasons (this series has 9 volumes and ended 6 years ago, so the anime is not for promoting a Light Novel who's already finished). |
groudonvertOct 1, 11:24 AM
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