Lazarus Episode 12 Discussion

Ang1337 said:
@Marinate1016 Nah the NPCs glaze it every single week pretending their Sloppa aint being carried by the Watanabe brand alone are the ones most view as the NPCs. Most defense I've seen for this show has been how much it relates to every other show instead of standing on its own merits. It's chock full of bad writing and many just hand wave plot contrivances because they have invested so much into the series they are unwilling to accept mediocrity being served on a platter and insist "this is a hidden gem of 2025".

I would love for someone to just casually explain how

I get you want to say this show is some piece of art or it's going to age great but the fact is half of the show was a mismanaged waste of time chasing terrible leads which logically should have been the first place many would have checked just to come up empty handed but to learn something about the environment or the people around them. This is one of those "it's about the journey not the destination" and "humanity actually deserved it because they don't care" but somehow stumbles and crawls thru both of those themes.

I get it:

Big Corpo Bad
Government Bad
Humans Bad
Environment Good

But when are we going to accept that:


This show insults the viewer's intelligence as it attempts to navigate a self imposed time limit while half ass juggling a series of backstories on our protagonist we pretend to care about only to provide sub par episodes (Except for the Cult Episode one of the few I thought was actually ok), numerous gags and side plots thrown to pad out transitions, and ham fisted last minute secret antagonists and plot foils with Russian spies and government coup/assassins to give some deeper plot.

I think what irritates me the most was being able to bet with everyone I was watching the show with, on episode 2, the blind man at the homeless camp was Skinner. This show is an absolute mess, not because of its limited runtime, but because it cannot bother to respect the viewer enough to SHOW and not TELL what is going on.

I don't want to be force fed and told Doug is a "Black Einstein"
I don't want to be spoon fed Leland's exact year absence and the estranged relationship he has with his Sister thru an unrealistic conversation.

I want the show to set up and provide payoffs that don't feel contrived or magicked into existence to make the story just work.
I want the show to work within its short episode time limit and simply give a concise and well deserved plot of chasing a man who has doomed the world.

Ya, there are people who are going to watch this show and even hate watch the show. I am one of them. I have a discord night every Saturday where 10 or so of the shows of the season are aired and 20 of the 20 viewers all have said the same thing. They are confused why people are trying to justify the show is mid and 70% of every argument devolves into invoking Cowboy Bebop as some kinda knee jerk defense or excuse.