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Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (light novel)
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Oct 31, 6:28 AM
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It's scary what Freya can do with her powers. And unfortunately for Orario, they were at the mercy of Freya and what she could do.

It seems that she really meant to make Bell by any means necessary. "I must defile you all". Truly crazy but I'm not that not surprised after what she's pulled already when she was "Syr".
Oct 31, 6:28 AM
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Love Freya, anything for Bell.
Oct 31, 6:37 AM
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Well that was one messed up ending.
Freya is obsessive that much was clear from the start but this just seems like some sick form of torture.
I am wondering what will happen next now, because this type of setting isn't really my thing (The everyone forgot or it never happened kind of setting) it's scary as hell.
Oct 31, 6:58 AM
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Wow what a shitty plot.. i predict we can skip the next 4 episodes of this crap before our simp is gonna get some balls.
Oct 31, 6:59 AM
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Well, I can honestly say a mass brainwashing wasn't something I was expecting after last week. The anime has had darker moments every now and then but this might actually take the top spot... Pretty bad time to be Bell but I'm definitely curious how the season is going to progress. Ever new season has been the better than the previous, I hope they continue that trend.
Oct 31, 7:28 AM
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another great ep


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Oct 31, 7:30 AM
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THIS IS GETTING CRAZY WHAT
Oct 31, 7:40 AM
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Damn Freya is nuts.... SMASH
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Oct 31, 7:58 AM
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Darn its so scary that Freya able to do that without her "divine" power.
Poor Bell :(
Oct 31, 8:31 AM

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damn... this episode was kinda fucked up
Oct 31, 8:40 AM

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Freya is going to pay for what she has done. Fate or Life is not gonna let her have her way. Rejection sucks at any age. However, it’s not an excuse to cause trouble such as this. Like goodness gracious. Freya already turned foul the moment she decided to do this. At this moment she is no goddess of love. But a goddess of force.
Oct 31, 8:48 AM

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I believe there is a golden ratio of crazy:hot, and my initial thoughts before this ep was that Freya has a particular kind of crazy that has a charm to it, however evens after watching the ed yet again in its entirety, its more or less fuck the ratio Freya is kinda nuts.

I have a great deal of respect towards simp-sons, calculated simping is a dying art and when done right its absolute class and to die for, on the contrary Freya's infatuation is best left a longing desire, the way in which she manifested her so called love was downright diabolical, aaand I kinda get it, hear me out, the goddess of love taking an L is stomach churningly crushing to her ego and downright unfathomable, drastic measure had to be taken, and herein lies the problem, my sympathy for her holiness ends here, I thought the worst she was gonna do was kidnap the guy, engage in so diddler ish end of story, but nah she had to jump his Familia, black mail Hestia, threaten Hermes, what sorta twisted lick back is that, honestly I did not see her putting everybody in the matrix coming either, shit ion know man I'm conflicted, I think she's fire but she might be a little too crazy for my liking though.

Oct 31, 8:57 AM

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Damn, Freya really isn’t playing around with how badly she wants Bell. Even going as far as mass brainwashing everyone and altering their memories? That’s some scary stuff, especially for Bell himself. Hestia is the only one who was able to withstand it but obviously she has to play along and pretend to not know him. The plot just took an interesting turn.
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Oct 31, 9:16 AM
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This season went from 0 to 100 real fast and im here for the ride
Oct 31, 9:23 AM
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I thought this was going to be a 6 month training arc of Bell getting strong enough to beat Otarl and stay in the Hestia familia. Series said LOL NOPE that's what you thought sucka!

I felt Bell's confusion and abandonment in the end, the emotion hit deep today. Was not expecting that
Oct 31, 9:26 AM
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Normally I give JC Staff a hard time for how poorly they've handled this adaptation over the years, but this episode was spot on. Freya's charm used on Orario is something I've been waiting to see. Crazy that without releasing arcanum, she can do something of that magnitude of power.

And seeing the poor members of Hestia Familia being brutally mishandled by those homicidal simps of Freya was tough, even though I knew it was coming.
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Oct 31, 9:33 AM
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FREEEEEYYYAAAAA ANJGGGGG DASAR LONTTTTTTTTEEEEEE
Oct 31, 9:43 AM

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I guess there won't be any dungeon diving again this arc? (again as in the 2nd season)
Oct 31, 9:45 AM
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Bell getting a Subaru original experience.
Oct 31, 9:45 AM
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I really hate how EVERY FEMALE is lusting after poor Bell. The man has done nothing wrong and gets put through hell at the whims of others. Let the dude live his life the way he wants.

Really hoping that goddess gets the karma train that's sure to be coming.
Oct 31, 9:49 AM

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Wow such a good episode!!!

Freya´s character is so warped, she´s willing to throw it all away, willing to set the world in flames to get her most precious desire (Bell) and she´s the meant to be goddes of love for the love of god!! I guess Gojo was right "Love Is The Most Twisted Curse Of All" it´s crazy what love can make you do.

Me personally I don´t see Aiz accepting his feelings, sure she´s helped Bell in the past but has also confronted him too. From what I´ve seen she is interested in him but not romatically at least, since she has a goal to achieve before anyting else. The only way I see both of them ending up together is if her and Bell undergo a crazy character development like he did with Ryu.

My ranking at the moment of who´s more lilkely to end up with Bell is: Ryu, Hestia, Aiz then Haruhime. The only reason Syr isn´t on here is cuz of what Freya said in the last episode and that the way the story is going it looks like someone is either dying or getting sent back to heaven.

The only thing I don´t understand is the power Freya used for hypnotising all of Orario, isn´t that using her Divine powers? Which then violates the rules set on the lower world by the Gods causing her to be sent back to heaven?

I can´t wait for the next episode!!!
Oct 31, 9:54 AM
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Gaslighting Arc let's gooooo!
Oct 31, 9:59 AM

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I ask this again, will an unfiltered never-seen-before steamy sex scene spanning over an entire episode between Freya and Bell solve things for good??? If yes, then plese go ahead with that easy and simple approach. IT WILL REALLY.. REALLY SAVE MANY LIVES.

As tbh, this whole obsession is pretty weird and isn't at all something to sing praises about. I used to give flak to Hestia but she looks hundred times better now.
Oct 31, 10:01 AM

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Back to back PEAK episodes. Freya really went so far.

Bell was suffering last season and now this? give this little rabbit a god damn break.

It's now up to Hestia and the crew to save Bell this time, can't wait for the big fights, and to see who will be our new allies.
Oct 31, 10:02 AM
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I hate Freya and all about her
Oct 31, 10:21 AM
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Freya is really crazy, doing all this for a man, after all what does Bell have so much that all the girls want him?

This episode was really crazy and at the same time it had a really sad ending, Hestia avoiding Bell was really painful to watch. I hate the Freya family with all my strength and I also hate Freya/Syr/Horn or whatever that abomination of a character is.

This season hasn't made me like danmachi yet, but it's been much better compared to the first seasons lol
Oct 31, 10:21 AM
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Happy Halloween fellow MAL dwellers, I love celebrating the spooky time but I still gotta hit my anime lol. And wow shit hit the fan really fast, funny to think there were folks afraid this would be more of an SoL season when it started. Freya couldn’t get her man so now she’s changed the entire city around him just to make him hers, she may be sexy af but holy shit what an evil move, and the worst part is that Hestia managed to avoid Freya’s brainwashing but she can’t tell Bell yet, she broke that man in the middle of the street and there’s nothing she can do about it for now, shit hurts man lol.

But despite how things have turned out, and I know it might be this way for a while, this just got me excited for the eventual revenge that Hestia and Bell will unleash on Freya and her familia, I like Freya a lot and she’s made for a great villain for this arc, but I also wanna see her taken down more than few pegs lol, not necessarily the same fate as Ishtar because I will miss seeing Freya around, but I also wouldn’t doubt that it’s the end that’s coming for her.
Oct 31, 10:23 AM
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Readers of the original material: Is after from here the fights begin?


I heard rumors that this season would have a lot of fights, I confess that the direction of the fights has improved this season, so I'm looking forward to seeing more fights.
Oct 31, 10:31 AM

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Hmm, Freya's plan may backfire. I think the only way the Freya familia could be challenged is if most of the other familias banded together against them, and if they can snap out of her brainwashing, she just ensured the would.

Only a few weak familias would probably have tried to oppose her if she just left Orario alone.
Oct 31, 10:44 AM

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God damn Freya, you are something else
Oct 31, 10:45 AM
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bro Freya is crazyyyyyyyy asf
Oct 31, 10:45 AM
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The nightmare to Bell started!!!
Amazing Freya´s power, sumission!!!!
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Oct 31, 10:48 AM

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Holy moly, Freya isn't one to take "NO" for an answer, huh? Poor Hestia trying to reason with Freya was a complete waste of time as she ordered her lackys to take out Bell and the other members of the Hestia Familia. When it looked like Hermes arriving with a good compromise plan to help Hestia a bit, Freya was already a few steps ahead of him on that one as well.

She's gone as far as to forcibly replace Ishtar, sending her back to Heaven, before hypnotising and altering the memories of EVERYONE in Orario. The exception here was Hestia thanks to what Hermes told her beforehand, but seeing her having to lay low and play along does hurt a bit.

Still, Bell is going through complete torture. Waking up in an unfamiliar place, which was the Freya Familia, then still getting treated like crap from the higher ranking familia members, having the public be afraid of him and then having to learn the hard way of how no one in the Hestia Famila (including Hestia playing along for earlier reasons) recognises him is a severe shock to his system. If he thought dealing with the Juggernaut in the dungeon depths last season was tough, then he has been forcibly been shoved into the bottom pits of hell itself.

Great episode overall and I look forward to seeing how things will unfold from here on out. Right now, Freya is well past the point of no return and only a complete defeat of her would be fitting.
Oct 31, 10:50 AM

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Freya: Look Bell, I love you, so here's the thing: we can do this the easy way, or the hard way, you can decide
Bell: Well we are not doing anything in anyway, so I'm gonna continue to live my life, but good luck to you 😊
Freya:
Oct 31, 11:09 AM

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I figured this arc was gonna be sad, but not for this reason lmao wtf. There’s being bad with rejection and then there’s crashing out like Freya. Can’t believe she starting a whole ass war and altering everyone’s memories to get Bell. Like you really think he won’t hate you for this? It sucks, but no one can control how they feel and forcing your feelings on someone will never have a good outcome.

It’s even crueler when you think about Hestia having to pretend she doesn’t know Bell just to keep up the plan that Hermes came up with. Last season was about physical pain, but this Danmachi season seems it’s going to be more emotional in nature. Seeing people who you know and love and they don’t know you, or in this case have a totally different idea of you hurts beyond description.

Also, Haruhime did NOT deserve to have her head stepped on wtf. Lily getting her wrist snapped and Ryu kicked in the face(which was funny af ngl) 😡 freya gotta pay for this
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Oct 31, 11:22 AM
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For Freya though living as Syr was simply another way for her to have fun. Freya familia's ambush of Hestia familia was just brutal. Loved the fact that they got the ambush scene spot on. That scene where Bell was told by his guildmates that they don't know him must had been devastating given their history together.
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Oct 31, 11:56 AM

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Wow, I had heard that Bell suffers a lot this season but this was quite unexpected! Freya literally altered EVERYONE's memories just to gaslight bell. We still have Ryuu on our side, though I don't know what can they even do to counter brain-washing...
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Oct 31, 12:13 PM
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"The worst he/she can say is 'no'".

Riiiiiiight.
Oct 31, 12:31 PM
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what’s crazy to me is how that after 5 seasons, only 6 months have passed 💀

also, Freya is weird as fuck. i must give props to the author cause this is definitely something a lore accurate Greek god…yeah i just thought of this. why is Freya in here when Freya is a Norse goddess? i’m going to assume that the story isn’t meant to just be based on Greek mythology.
Oct 31, 12:34 PM

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wow ts is actually crazy bro
Oct 31, 12:44 PM
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teeuzumaki said:
what’s crazy to me is how that after 5 seasons, only 6 months have passed 💀

also, Freya is weird as fuck. i must give props to the author cause this is definitely something a lore accurate Greek god…yeah i just thought of this. why is Freya in here when Freya is a Norse goddess? i’m going to assume that the story isn’t meant to just be based on Greek mythology.

The story is based on a ton of different mythologies, which is an extremely interesting part of the show imo. You also have Loki from the Norse mythology. You have Take and i think Miach from eastern religions. Zeus, Hermes, Hestia, Hephaistos, Demeter from the Greeks. I'm not being exhaustive here,bi'm miasing à lot.
Oct 31, 12:52 PM

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Hopefully Freya's friends make her change her mind since she is that Syr we all knew all this time and she does care for those where she work at
Oct 31, 12:59 PM

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ouch; so heartbreaking. however, Hermes has a plan (as usual) and Ryu might have a hand in saving the day! are we back on the Ryu train right now cuz i'm feeling it for reals. HOWEVER, notice that Ais didn't seem to be around during the hypnotism...oh boy how is this about to go down? I'm pumped.
Oct 31, 1:16 PM

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Wow not only did they make Syr, to be Freya, but so off her rocker that she is forcibly controlling everyone to not remember anything but what she wills, this not only pathetic, but her own life in danger when Bell finds out the truth and what she did.

Heck this might actually send Bell over the edge to actually kill the goddess Freya.

There has got to be someone who remembers Bell, Ryu or Ais, maybe because of how they feel about him.
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Oct 31, 1:46 PM

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bell and co. can't stop taking L's

let's see how they bounce back from this


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Readers of the original material: Is after from here the fights begin?


I heard rumors that this season would have a lot of fights, I confess that the direction of the fights has improved this season, so I'm looking forward to seeing more fights.

Yes big fights are coming the biggest in the series
Oct 31, 1:51 PM
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I was sick of the OP Freya familia where no one can beat them, but now Freya can alter the minds of a city? I hope they get this arc over with quickly and move on.
Oct 31, 2:30 PM

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Greatest episode of the last 3 seasons.
Oct 31, 2:43 PM

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Surely what Freya did has to be illegal.
Kidnapping another guild member and making everyone else her slaves by altering their memories.
Now we just have to wait for Hestia to find Hermes at the right time and give him that note.

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