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Jan 18, 2010 1:39 PM

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I was more impressed by the Olivier, Mustang, and Riza scenes than the Hohenheim flashback. It was informative...I don't want to say I didn't care, but since they just basically said Hohenheim's blood is special without giving a reason, there wasn't really anything for me to latch onto. All this stuff about watching him teach other slaves sounds really worthless compared to that missing information. It needs to be explained.
Jan 18, 2010 2:03 PM
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as a person who hasn't read the manga, i think the pacing was good and the backstory was shown well with great animations and music

as for all the manga-bashers out there, if u really believe the anime has "butchered" the story line then go back to reading the manga then! an anime isn't always a 100% accurate to the manga but at least this anime stays really faithful to the story and doesn't rape it like bleach!
Jan 18, 2010 2:18 PM

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It was EPIC
screw pacing its better than not showing it at all
but i actually did not know what was going on in the hoenhiem story til the end XD
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Jan 18, 2010 2:31 PM

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Interesting episode on Hohenheim's past.



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Jan 18, 2010 2:54 PM

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Shifty_08 said:
Amazing episode but what i want to know is who made 'the homonoculus in the jar who was the one dong tests' ???
Hohenheim's master who in turn was working for the emperor.

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Jan 18, 2010 3:08 PM

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Good question
Jan 18, 2010 3:34 PM

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EternalDreamer said:
Starbrow said:
In a Flashback, "Homunculus in a jar" gained the copy of Hohenheim's body.
But in present time, that same "Homunculus in a jar" is Selim Bradley.
So who is the Father then?

To my knowledge Selim (aka Pride) is just the first homunculus that "Father" created, the one that was trapped in jar does still have the same appearance and as such there are presently two "Hohenheim's"

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


But Pride looks exacly like " Homunculus in a jar ". Whats the deal with that?

And why is Van Hohenheim and " Father ", while shared the same Philosofer Stone are of a different age? " Father " looks so much older, while Van havent aged a day?
Jan 18, 2010 3:53 PM

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yeah.. i thought it was the loveliest episode i've seen in a while.. so it was a great 5 for me x3
Jan 18, 2010 5:07 PM

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Starbrow said:
But Pride looks exacly like " Homunculus in a jar ". Whats the deal with that?

And why is Van Hohenheim and " Father ", while shared the same Philosofer Stone are of a different age? " Father " looks so much older, while Van havent aged a day?


Uhm, he created Pride after his original form? Isin't really any big secret to it, he just made the first homunculus like that, why? No idea and I doubt he will say why he made each homunculus the way they are. He after all made Gluttony into a door to the truth just because he wanted to try it (ended up being a fake one)

He does not look older to me, just more lazy. I bet Hohenheim has trained much more, moved much more and all that since he got immortal unlike the Father. He's there for in a better shape even though they are both immortal
Jan 18, 2010 5:11 PM

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Starbrow said:


But Pride looks exacly like " Homunculus in a jar ". Whats the deal with that?

And why is Van Hohenheim and " Father ", while shared the same Philosofer Stone are of a different age? " Father " looks so much older, while Van havent aged a day?


Pride is all of Father's pride, so he looks like his original prideful form.

Father has been hooked up to a bunch of pipes using vast amounts of his stone's energy for hundreds of years + using up even more of that energy creating his homunculus children, of course Father would "look" older. However I still think they look the same, it's just the lighting and choice of clothing that trows the perception of age.
Jan 18, 2010 5:14 PM

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Starbrow said:
But Pride looks exacly like " Homunculus in a jar ". Whats the deal with that?

And why is Van Hohenheim and " Father ", while shared the same Philosofer Stone are of a different age? " Father " looks so much older, while Van havent aged a day?
The eye and shadows are a recurring image in the series.

Father looks older because of his style and mannerisms.

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Jan 18, 2010 6:17 PM
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Since I don't read the manga, I've got nothing to compare this to so I was extremely mind blow by the way things turned out. I Loved it and I can't wait to see where this goes. SO GOOD!!!
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Jan 18, 2010 6:23 PM
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Awesome episode. Looks like Ed is gonna have a fight in the next episode.






Jan 18, 2010 6:25 PM

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I'm a bit confused as to what "Father's" motives are. He has immortality thanks to Hohenheim and he has more power than probably everyone. So is he just trying to kill all humans and replace them with homunculus? I cant help but think his motives are going to be childish.
Jan 18, 2010 7:32 PM

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You know...I didn't even think that far. I have no clue. He seemed to just want freedom in the beginning...so I'll guess it's something like seeing how powerful he can become.
Jan 18, 2010 7:46 PM

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It's so ironic how the greatest power (the philosophers stone) Ed and Al wanted before was at their closest possession (their father). And Ed have always hated his father even without knowing what the philosophers stone is made out of. Which shows he has had some kind of rejection towards the philosophers stone ever since he was born that he never knew.

I'm still confused, are they trying to find a different way of making the philosophers stone using Rentanjutsu or are they trying to find a totally different way of getting their body back with Rentanjutsu / any way using Renkinjutsu without sacrifice?
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Jan 18, 2010 10:47 PM

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OMFG, so i've only ever seen the original FMA so it's eps like this that really, REALLY blow my mind. that was really good and i haven't read the manga so i don't know anything about the pacing but i thot it was fantastic!
Jan 19, 2010 2:41 AM

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Kaizokuou said:
OMFG, so i've only ever seen the original FMA so it's eps like this that really, REALLY blow my mind. that was really good and i haven't read the manga so i don't know anything about the pacing but i thot it was fantastic!


Same here, I thought this episode was really interesting.
Jan 19, 2010 3:02 AM
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noteDhero said:
I was more impressed by the Olivier, Mustang, and Riza scenes than the Hohenheim flashback. It was informative...I don't want to say I didn't care, but since they just basically said Hohenheim's blood is special without giving a reason, there wasn't really anything for me to latch onto. All this stuff about watching him teach other slaves sounds really worthless compared to that missing information. It needs to be explained.


His blood is "special" because it was used in the transmutation (to create the homunculus). It's not like hohenheim himself is special, or his blood is some special substance. It's special to the homunculus in the sense that he was created by it. Hohenheim's master probably didn't want to draw a lot of his own blood so he used a slave.
Jan 19, 2010 3:41 AM
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Aww, Homonculus started out as a sootsprite. The Little One in the Flask, eh. Sounds cute. Riza's amazing as usual, so is Olivier. Man these women pwn.
Jan 19, 2010 5:03 AM

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Started slow, But to see the story of hoenheim was great.
Jan 19, 2010 5:55 AM

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Well I don't think he is just trying to sacrifice Human for nothing and specially it is not something he is just thinking a couple weeks ago, it was planned long time ago.Also Gluttony being a fake gate in his true form and Selim being similar to what was shown in this episode while the transmutation circle was activating, in his true form. It doesn't seem they are coincident to me. Specially in this episode he mentioned that he has knowledge and know about the gate. On the other hand, every and each of Homunculus that was created by him seem to hold something important to the plan.

Maybe just as noteDhero said it could be something we have no clue about.
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Jan 19, 2010 6:19 AM
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Good episode, and a nice translation from manga to anime imo.
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Jan 19, 2010 7:53 AM

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Malestel said:


His blood is "special" because it was used in the transmutation (to create the homunculus). It's not like hohenheim himself is special, or his blood is some special substance. It's special to the homunculus in the sense that he was created by it. Hohenheim's master probably didn't want to draw a lot of his own blood so he used a slave.


Really? That's it? That's lame then. It could have been better explained. It's still just one of those things that just happened for no real reason. Especially since we haven't seen a Homonculus made outside of a host body, and this one is just kind of there because of Hohenheim's blood.
Jan 19, 2010 8:41 AM

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Excellent episode. I always liked the part with Hoenheim in the manga better than in the original anime; the transmutation sequence was nothing short of spectacular.
Jan 19, 2010 9:17 AM

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And everyone just ignores this question:

MaxCrazy7 said:

The people of Xeres were blond with golden eyes; so if this the story being Ed and Al father being a philosopher stone, does that implied that Ed and Al aren't full fledge human?


I've been wondering on that one too XD Anybody has any ideas? I suppose it doesn't matter at all btw. XD

Edit: Dunno who said that it was fully understandable unless you weren't watching it in your own language but I can assure him/her that It was clear watching it with english subs while I'm hungarian. XD
Jan 19, 2010 9:23 AM

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Full fledged human? I don't know. But I took it as explanation for why they're such talented alchemists.
Jan 19, 2010 9:38 AM

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Wow, this episode explained exactly what I wanted to know... I always thought Van Hohenheim was his surname... Well, got the answer to that as well. 5/5, this was a great insight into Van Hohenheim.
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Jan 19, 2010 2:22 PM

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"The Little One Inside the Flask".
Oh god. Gonna give me nightmares.


Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM

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FREAKKKKKKK!
poor hohenheim, he was soo inncoent! :'(

and I liked the way that riza and roy use to communicate, soo smart! :)
Jan 19, 2010 6:02 PM

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I have a feeling that they would use Hohenheim to open the gate to get their bodies back.
Jan 19, 2010 9:01 PM

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Hohenheim.. Homunkulus.. they are awesome!
Now I understood why the father looks just as Hohenheim. fckn great!
Jan 19, 2010 9:28 PM

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ChOFee said:
And everyone just ignores this question:
MaxCrazy7 said:

The people of Xeres were blond with golden eyes; so if this the story being Ed and Al father being a philosopher stone, does that implied that Ed and Al aren't full fledge human?
I've been wondering on that one too XD Anybody has any ideas? I suppose it doesn't matter at all btw. XD
It's addressed later on the series which is probably why everyone is ignoring this question.

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Jan 20, 2010 3:05 PM

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I don't think they rushed this part, for me it's good and kept people interested. I remember this part pretty well, I think they covered up all the important details in this chapter.

DAMN, Hohenheim is hot. No wonder Ed looks like that <3 his voice was perfect, fitted him really well.... Who was the seiyuu?
Also, the homunculus voice was awesome <3

Animation was epic, one of the best of the entire series.

I'm really liking the new OP and the new ED fits well. Although Let It Out was better ;3



MaxCrazy7 said:

The people of Xeres were blond with golden eyes; so if this the story being Ed and Al father being a philosopher stone, does that implied that Ed and Al aren't full fledge human?


noteDhero said:
Full fledged human? I don't know. But I took it as explanation for why they're such talented alchemists.


I read the manga, nothing about that was mentioned. But I assume they're normal humans, the fact that Hohenheim is just immortal and a philosopher's stone doesn't mean that he can't procriate as a normal human being. But Trisha knows he's not completely human, so, who knows. Al and Ed seem human because they get injuried and they aren't super poweful.

Being blonde with golden eyes is just a race thing, just like Ishvalians are tanned, white haired and red eyed, and Amestrians are blonde, white skinned with blue eyes. So it only proves that Ed and Al descend from Xerxenians. [did I write it right? e_e']

They are talented alchemists because they have studied their entire lives and saw "the truth". So, I don't think it has something to do with Hohenheim, especifically.
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They're certainly hard working, and I don't mean to take away from that. But to do some of the things they were able to at such a young age, having not seen the truth makes me think that their father being a living philosopher's stone had to do with it. Otherwise, why doesn't everyone just learn alchemy?
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@Zakuro_Konata: Yes, it's mentioned in the manga.

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Jan 20, 2010 6:04 PM

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Zakuro_Konata said:

DAMN, Hohenheim is hot. No wonder Ed looks like that <3 his voice was perfect, fitted him really well.... Who was the seiyuu?
Also, the homunculus voice was awesome <3


It sounded like Daisuke Namikawa to me, but I could be wrong.

Jan 20, 2010 7:42 PM
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FANTASTIC! I personally feel that the show has finally out-shined its predecessor with this episode. Number 39 was brilliantly evil. One hell of an episode. 10/10 from me.
Jan 20, 2010 8:03 PM
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This series was really starting to slow down, but this episode came around, and boost me up again. This was the best episode for a while now.
Jan 21, 2010 8:58 AM

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Mildly disappointed with this one- the after credits scene didn't really need to be in this episode, and they could have used that time to either flesh out the flashback or the coded message scene. Some of the animation was lackluster, where the Slave 23 and Homunculus scenes seemed to feature a lot of long-held shots with little movement.

The code scene should have been an epic reveal as it seems like the scene is going nowhere but then slowly dawns on the viewer exactly what is happening.

Jan 21, 2010 11:41 AM

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so how hoenhiem became a philosopher stone, and how father got his human form; anyone else notice that all the people of xerxes had golden hair and eyes?
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Jan 21, 2010 5:45 PM

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I just wanted to say that I lol'd at the "FULL METAL ALCHEMIST" voice in the first eyecatch this episode. It was quite funny. I have nothing more to contribute.

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Jan 21, 2010 6:23 PM

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@Zakuro_Konata: Yes, it's mentioned in the manga.


Yep, they know that. But that begets the question: But are there any additional powers from being birthed by a Philosopher's stone? That's not addressed in the manga [yet?].
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I just wanted to say that I lol'd at the "FULL METAL ALCHEMIST" voice in the first eyecatch this episode. It was quite funny. I have nothing more to contribute.

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Jan 22, 2010 7:22 AM

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can somebody tell me from where that 'homunculus' thing appeared ? =\
Jan 22, 2010 7:43 AM

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Good episode, lots of answers. I'm just concerned on the pace, I'm afraid we might run out of material quick since we are going way too fast.
Jan 22, 2010 1:02 PM
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MeLcHoR said:
Good episode, lots of answers. I'm just concerned on the pace, I'm afraid we might run out of material quick since we are going way too fast.


MEH AMAGAD please ppl stop sayings its to fast, its prefectly fine!!

if u want to watch slow shit were nothing happens go watch naruto shippuden or something
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MeLcHoR said:
Good episode, lots of answers. I'm just concerned on the pace, I'm afraid we might run out of material quick since we are going way too fast.


MEH AMAGAD please ppl stop sayings its to fast, its prefectly fine!!

if u want to watch slow shit were nothing happens go watch naruto shippuden or something


Better watch One Piece, it's better, much better. Anyway, I agree with MeLcHoR. If it keeps up this speed we'll catch up with the manga in no time and then we'll have to wait even longer for an episode. Not like it's too fast, you can follow it perfectly but if the show would just go a little bit slower and add more detail it would be even better. For example, the conversation between Riza and Roy in this epi could be much longer. There's no need to rush.
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The manga is reaching conclusion soon so it won't be weird if the anime runs out of material, it will simply happen because the series is over. There are only a few chapters left and the author has probably already planned them out and told the anime creators how it will end.
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