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| This episode felt like a speed-run, a bad one. |
| Alright Kirito Calm the f down, we all know you playing Sword Art Online. LMAO my god that bitch did it again. I SWEAR if the Bow Hero itsuki got seduced and trick again by that Bitch, i'm gonna stop watching this Anime. Ngl Eclair saving Ren feels like out of nowhere. feels like something they cut something from previous season and now it feels awkward. |
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| There's been a lot of inaccuracies and missed this season so far but it was mostly tolerable so far... But this time around it feels like they cut down, changed up, crammed and stapled together like a quarter or a third of a volume in one episode, also pushing the abilities, story info, levels and power ratios out as a part of it and it hardly makes sense now, see tons of people confused in the comments about what's going on at all, and totally understand why, without reading the novel this all must look completely frigging random |
Reply to IhnalakoKaina
hasn't this become a little too shallow? Just comparing to season 1, or the hype of the first episodes, for some reason it has fallen flat. It feels so superficial and uninteresting. It lacks seriousness and direction. Maybe it's the fact that the story is not given enough time, once again rushed. Like they keep adding characters they end up not even showing or giving the importance they implied they'd have.
The conflict with ren felt so insignificant, so simple. And it was solved as simply. tomoyasu is just a clown, has been for a while. that whole trying to make him badass killing those 2 guys didn't work out. The cardinal heroes are portrayed as such side characters, such wasted story potential. There don't seem to be any interesting or serious obstacles or antagonist. Is always some typical evil stooges, or for some fucking reason bitch who hasn't died or had a conversion moment. Halfway into the season and I believe just 14 minutes of actual interesting plot: the thing with the 2 white tiger siblings and the king.
The conflict with ren felt so insignificant, so simple. And it was solved as simply. tomoyasu is just a clown, has been for a while. that whole trying to make him badass killing those 2 guys didn't work out. The cardinal heroes are portrayed as such side characters, such wasted story potential. There don't seem to be any interesting or serious obstacles or antagonist. Is always some typical evil stooges, or for some fucking reason bitch who hasn't died or had a conversion moment. Halfway into the season and I believe just 14 minutes of actual interesting plot: the thing with the 2 white tiger siblings and the king.
| @IhnalakoKaina Yes, no, not really. Season 2 changed and cut down far too much and handled it in all the wrong ways, that's after s1 also cut down a bit (it was tolerable though). This here is just them keeping at that trend of omitting and speeding stuff up, except now its caught up to them and there's so much info and story bits missing that it looks shallow, also really random, like the soul stuff that was supposed to be explained like 7~ episodes ago with Kyo. Believe it or not, this here was actually where the novel gets really good, but they botched it so bad in the last season and this one with rushing instead of taking the time to explain and make use of one of the best arcs that its actually painful to watch instead. These 2 guys that came after mc where supposed to be really overpowered due to being overleveled and buffed,, there was also supposed to be much more elaboration about both them and Kyo, the name of their group (wave vanguard), the fact they're just random guys that are 'hero hunting', as in going from world to world to kill heroes for the levels and buffs it grants them, how they are partially immortal (and Kyo too, which last season didn't even bother to mention), how their souls look like middle aged Japanese men, why Raphtalia was able to cut down their souls in the first place... Instead they made them these random stooges that died all too quickly the first time and they didn't show how they're far too strong, Raphtalia was able to kill them only because he removed the curse from her accidentally by using a cleanse to clear her support buff and she surprised one of them with the resulting speed. The fight was supposed to be longer and show how they really struggled against them, also show how Ren is a complete weakling even with the curse applied (it was also supposed to destroy his equipment), to the point Naofumi was able to stop the guiliotine cursed finishing move with his bare hand, meanwhile the anime shows mc struggling. And then when the stooges come back, mc is worried they'll kill Ren because he's such a weakling, but Motoyasu shows up and kills them in a moment like its nothing, showing just how potentially strong the heroes can be, which is supposed to be this huge shock moment , because up to this point the heroes where all shown to be EXTREMELY weak, with Raphtalia able to hold her own against them 1v1 even before getting a clan weapon, and possibly able to kill all 3 alone after she did get it... Their attacks where also way weaker than mc, to the point they called the few of his attacks 'cheats', despite them being pretty weak as far as power levels in the novel go. And now Motoyasu is suddenly way stronger than mc and Raphtalia ever where or could hope to be, at least as far as offensive power goes (mc's role is protecting after all). He's also batshit insane, even more so than Ren, which makes for some great comedy that they completely scoffed here. Lastly there was an explanation about how the cursed series is the holy weapon's defense mechanism, in case the heroes go nuts, so they won't end themselves and instead become obsessed with something. But yeah, as i said, they completely threw out all the info, explanations, and good bits overall, so it came out as pathetic as it did. |
| The first 4 episodes were so good, but now we have to watch those lame heroes being set straight, pathetic. Just watching Naofumi is better. |
| Is Ren just weak or is Eclair actually that strong? He is the sword hero after all. Also lol at Spear guy always saying "father" to Naofumi. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Ok....Motoyasu's probably ALMOST redeemed himself from all that trash act in the 1st 2 seasons cuz of his whole "OTO-SAN'S ENEMIES MUST ALL DIE" and "OTO-SAN'S WORD IS LAW" act looooool If he's really this brainwashed I mean "obedient" for the rest of the series than this is like a permanently...great ally for Naofumi & co? It was both sad and enlightening to see how Ren was like before he Isekai'd and how he ultimately "died" to have become summoned to this world... Can't believe B* dropped him THAT fast tho--almost record time.... and after taking all his equipment too. Damn low blow. Wonder if they'll go into the others at some point (the OP hints at Motoyasu's I think...? I've been highly curious about it...unless it was revealed in previous seasons and I just forgot...) |
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| Damn why filo gotta make a lad feel like shit like dat lolz. |
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Reply to Alex_the_reaper
im curious about the sin curses
naofumi has wrath
ren has greed and glutonny
im guessing motoyatsu gonna get maybe envy and DEFINITELY luxury
the bow hero seems to fit the requirements for pride (Cause he acts all high and mighty) and sloth (cause he hasnt done SH*T since the show began XD)
thats said thats how i view them to fit, doesn't that mean naofumi is kinda loosing? or maybe everyone of them can get their sin version of each curse, still naofumi made it sound a sin could only be in a person at a time. any manga reader to clear it up?
naofumi has wrath
ren has greed and glutonny
im guessing motoyatsu gonna get maybe envy and DEFINITELY luxury
the bow hero seems to fit the requirements for pride (Cause he acts all high and mighty) and sloth (cause he hasnt done SH*T since the show began XD)
thats said thats how i view them to fit, doesn't that mean naofumi is kinda loosing? or maybe everyone of them can get their sin version of each curse, still naofumi made it sound a sin could only be in a person at a time. any manga reader to clear it up?
Alex_the_reaper said: thats said thats how i view them to fit, doesn't that mean naofumi is kinda loosing? or maybe everyone of them can get their sin version of each curse, still naofumi made it sound a sin could only be in a person at a time. any manga reader to clear it up? The anime passed the manga around episode 2 so this is LN territory now. Why would Naofumi be loosing? The Curse Series are full of drawbacks and it's not worth using them. The curses only exist to prevent the heroes from committing suicide. Naofumi got wrath because he hated the whole world and everyone in it in S1 and wanted them to suffer/get vengeance. Ren wanted best equipment(greed) and lots of it(gluttony) but forgot the reason for wanting those. Eclair reminded him of his goal. Motoyasu is lusting/envious for love as you've guessed. His curse is that every woman he sees has a pig head(except Filo) and he can't understand what they are saying. He need an interpreter when speaking to a woman. |
Aight!! If you say so!!  |
| Phew, that bitch "Bitch" actually did it again, if I find her in that world again, I'd fucking cleave her flesh to make her see the seven deadly sins myself. Therefore, in conclusion, Ren who was forsaken has found a new family. And is beckoned by the shield hero by his instructions he'll finally become a bona fide hero again, Cheers for Ren's sanity!! |
| "All things, be they divine or mortal, find their ultimate end. It is not a harsh punishment, but a merciful pardon."  |
| Wait, after the last 2 episodes, I did not think we would get this amazing episode. I really enjoyed this one and maybe we get more of it! 6/10 so far, maybe It can upgrade to a 7/10. |
| “Do what feels right in your heart. You will be criticized either way.” (Eleanor Roosevelt) |
| Seeing Ren's curse series this ep made me miss when Naofumi used his wrath curse series. Those wrath shield attacks were cool to see compared to the lame shit he uses atm. |
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Reply to Alex_the_reaper
im curious about the sin curses
naofumi has wrath
ren has greed and glutonny
im guessing motoyatsu gonna get maybe envy and DEFINITELY luxury
the bow hero seems to fit the requirements for pride (Cause he acts all high and mighty) and sloth (cause he hasnt done SH*T since the show began XD)
thats said thats how i view them to fit, doesn't that mean naofumi is kinda loosing? or maybe everyone of them can get their sin version of each curse, still naofumi made it sound a sin could only be in a person at a time. any manga reader to clear it up?
naofumi has wrath
ren has greed and glutonny
im guessing motoyatsu gonna get maybe envy and DEFINITELY luxury
the bow hero seems to fit the requirements for pride (Cause he acts all high and mighty) and sloth (cause he hasnt done SH*T since the show began XD)
thats said thats how i view them to fit, doesn't that mean naofumi is kinda loosing? or maybe everyone of them can get their sin version of each curse, still naofumi made it sound a sin could only be in a person at a time. any manga reader to clear it up?
| @Alex_the_reaper Its not specifically said what they have, Ren has greed for sure, dunno about gluttony. Motoyasu is lust (if you pay attention to his new spear at the faraway shot you can see it too), and their guess is his other one is pride (what the heck's luxury?). They discuss it in depth during the fight in the novel, but here they skimp out on all the info and dialogues to an annoying degree, don't even know who the two invaders and Kyo are because they didn't share anything unlike the novel, and what was with their souls leaving, so its turning out really weird, especially for anime only viewers |
| I saw it coming where 'Bitch' going to betray Ren just like that. Now Ren knows how Naofumi feels after got betrayed from her. ヽ(￣ω￣(。。 )ゝ Ren is the one I will respect because from season 1 despite his hostle towards Naofumi, he is the only person that apologized to him after Naofumi told him what happened about his quest before. Yep Eclair is still one of my favorite since S2 , SHE IS AMAZING in this episode! So glad she is on Naofumi's side. <(￣︶￣)> The Baka Spear is still creepy as always. lol (￢_￢;)  |
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| Okay so Ren finally make turn, I guess Itsuki is the only one left... And I can bet Bitch is gonna use and throw him away like she always does And also it looks Bitch got helped otherwise there is no way she could break the slave crest |
Reply to CalorieEnchilada
@mkzxwing Holy cow they glossed over, skipped, or botched a lot of this. Makes me wonder if the author for this is feeling like the author in Oshi no Ko anymore.
I'm starting to lean towards dropping the show and just picking up the novel instead.
More details that would explain why he's acting so crazy and help us sympathize instead of writing them off as weirdos and creeps.
I'm starting to lean towards dropping the show and just picking up the novel instead.
Yaggamy said:
Motoyasu is lusting/envious for love as you've guessed. His curse is that every woman he sees has a pig head(except Filo) and he can't understand what they are saying. He need an interpreter when speaking to a woman.
Motoyasu is lusting/envious for love as you've guessed. His curse is that every woman he sees has a pig head(except Filo) and he can't understand what they are saying. He need an interpreter when speaking to a woman.
More details that would explain why he's acting so crazy and help us sympathize instead of writing them off as weirdos and creeps.
| @CalorieEnchilada More than i mentioned even, and yeah, its pretty damn bad. Even season 1, which was 'the best' as far as adaptation quality goes has omitted and cut a huge number of things, including the shift from inner monologue to side view which with the help of the changes that still persist made MC a totally different person, basically a 180 from how he actually was, turning him into a boring shounen protagonist from his actual self which is a really damn confused, sometimes awkward, snarky and toxic sob who mostly thinks about profits and says some pretty outlandish shit. Raphtalia lost most of he character as a result too, because in the novel she's constantly kinda mad at him for being an asshole with zero tact, acting like a villain at times, not taking any hints to that she likes him, etc. Sexual confusion and trauma (which still sorta lingers 20 novels in after what Myne did to him) is also a big topic in the novel that isn't addressed here at all... In short, yeah, its completely off, they just turned it into a typical battle shounen at this point. I definitely recommend the novels tho... Well, maybe, if you have the patience to read it, i, being Russian, have the luxury of it being available as a free audiobook due to the huge free (mostly donation funded) audiobook culture we have... Idk if i'd have the patience to actually read it, partially because its so long, and partially because even the novel, which is much better, is still not GREAT, just like, 7.5~/10 at best |
| I feel like they didn't developt this problem further wich in my fucking garbage opinion is a waste |
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| Myne his beloved, lmfao. The entire Ren thing was bs, that trash can just die. Even Motoyasu looks better compared to him. |
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| No way you're expecting me or anyone to feel any bit of remorse or sympathy towards the sword guy.. the way he got played by a bitch whose name's bitch too, right? RIGHT????? I mean props to author, he really wrote his characters to represent those living embodiments of dumbness, which we never wanted lol. Now if that other guy does the same, I'm dead. |
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| Dang another hero getting a taste of that curse power. For some reason I thought only Naofumi would have it. Also it being linked to the seven deadly sins huh, it's pretty often that I see isekai and that together lol. |
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Reply to Yaggamy
Every change the studio did in S2 came back to bite them in the ass!
- S2 ended with the three heroes stopping the wave, getting medals for their bravery and saving the kingdom. S3 retconned this and everyone hates the three heroes for not helping.
- The reason only Eclair could save Ren is because they started to have a small relationship/history. Because this got cut from S2 Eclair saving him feels random.
- The group getting curse in S2 didn't happen, but they still have it in S3 and affects their performance seriously.
- The agents of the waves have artificial souls and this allows them to revive. During the fight against Kyo Naoufumi's group discovered this and gained the knowledge to stop him. Because this got cut from S2 the soul thing feels random.
- Naofumi recognizes that Ren is using a Curse Series, but doesn't notice that Motoyasu is using one too.
- When the hooded guys die in episode 5 there's no blood, but there's blood in episode 6.
- S2 ended with the three heroes stopping the wave, getting medals for their bravery and saving the kingdom. S3 retconned this and everyone hates the three heroes for not helping.
- The reason only Eclair could save Ren is because they started to have a small relationship/history. Because this got cut from S2 Eclair saving him feels random.
- The group getting curse in S2 didn't happen, but they still have it in S3 and affects their performance seriously.
- The agents of the waves have artificial souls and this allows them to revive. During the fight against Kyo Naoufumi's group discovered this and gained the knowledge to stop him. Because this got cut from S2 the soul thing feels random.
- Naofumi recognizes that Ren is using a Curse Series, but doesn't notice that Motoyasu is using one too.
- When the hooded guys die in episode 5 there's no blood, but there's blood in episode 6.
| @Yaggamy Thanks for helping clear all that up. These things that you covered did feel kind of random and in need of even just a little explanation. Season 2 really was rather lacklustre wasn't it? |
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| That's it? Maybe it's because I've never cared for any of the other heroes except Naofumi, but the end of all this drama with Ren was pretty underwhelming. And he even got a waifu. Eclair deserves better... Motoyasu is still awful but it was hilarious how he casually killed those two at the end xD. |
| That was finally a truly good ending for all 3 heroes involved, finally! They will focus on real threats instead of following B*** sama's words lmao |
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| otousan!? what the EF? has Motoyasu already lost it?!? BWAHAHAH!!! |
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| Stop trying to make me care for the other 3 Heroes besides Naofumi, it ain't working |
| Three heroes together and in the same side!!! kekeke |
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