Neon Genesis Evangelion - The End of Evangelion Episode 1 Discussion

Koustubh said:
From what I understood, Third Impact did happen, humanity was destroyed, and the only survivors left were Shinji and Asuka. For Shinji, I can understand that he survived, but I don't understand how did Asuka survive. That's the only part that's confusing me, but other than that the main storyline is clear. Yes, there were different confusing Avant Garde elements, but I would say that they were kind of side (yet beautiful) stuff. Overall, it's been amazing ride. Now, time to watch the rebuild movies!

9.45/10 for EoE.

NorthmostIsle said:
Easiest way I can explain it is that Asuka doesn’t actually “survive” the third impact. She gets turned to Fanta Goop just like everyone else. She just rejects instrumentality like Shinji and that’s why she ends up on the beach with him at the end.

What specifically that means kind of necessitates a super long winded answer so click below if you dare.

Nishi_23 said:
Well... at first I was like "damn this is actually pretty good, might give this an 8 or a 9", then the usual pretentious edgy mindrape bullshit happened and it plummeted to a 7. Then the ending happened and it was a 6.

I do have to admit though, it's still better than the tv series. The blood and gore were really cool and the part where Asuka snapped was really great. (Although MPC-HC fucked up really badly and made almost the whole scene glitchy and killed it a bit, I'll move to mpv, thank you)

Whoever made this and the first NGE, please get medical attention. Thank you.

nopsik499 said:
Eva fanboys always defending it because this insanity has a "darker meaning" even though all there is is random stuff and just random moments. A movie should atleast be understandable even if it has bad plot. Well the end of evangelion couldnt even do that.

Adnash said:

The funniest thing is when you see NGE fans writing essays on pretty much random elements (ignoring obvious connections leads me to think that somebody treats each element separately, and thus places it in random order inside the movie itself), building up their own theories over what might've been their meaning. I mean, I don't deny inspiration by Kabbalah in terms of symbols, same with using tropes known for Freudian psychoanalysis, or Biblical themes. But technically speaking, they have been included in such vague way that doing any "objective" interpretation of EoE in these aspects is pointless. One can do it for fun, it's fun to spot these elements and discuss them. The problem, however, starts when you encounter snobs blinded by overthinking done by others or by themselves; insecure enough to derail any form of fair counterarguments with buzzphrases like "you are too dumb to understand it", "educate yourself, return to primary school first", "you don't know this or that".

Another irony is that such expressive movie like EoE allows multiple interpretations, including "it doesn't mean much aside from imagery effect" (surprise - imagery effect might also be like that, even if it's a detailed one). Too bad "anime elites" can't understand how civilized debate on works of art works like. Welp.

I'm glad I saw this movie, even if its second half felt underwhelming to me. It was quite an original experience, even though I treated it just as a curio that I don't plan to return to for a re-watch. Action scenes, voice acting and music were great. Direction was also good in the first half. Second half was quite experimental, and that "live-action moment" felt out of place.

Personally, I preferred the ending from TV series. Sure, it felt bizarre, but also was consistent to the pivotal theme of the whole series, so technically it was not that bad. It's shocking to see people admiring NGE for involving psychology, but at the same time hating the original ending with passion. It can't be helped, I guess. We are all entitled to have our own opinion, after all. Mine is that the TV series' ending was better.

Cyberminator said:
"Humanity is bad" cliche isn't my cup of tea

Pierre_Bezukhov said:
In order to understand the movie, watch episodes 25 & 26 of the series a few times. Due to the lack of funding, the staff had to be very direct in explaining the philosophy behiend the show and so the last two episodes were very good explanations (though it leaves out all of the symbolism). It took me 3 viewings of the series before I attempted the watch the movie for the second time. Of the story, the show explains only a little bit of it (specifically the reasoning behiend the human instumantallity project).