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| Oh cool a trans character time to watch mal have a complete fucking meltdown |
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Atlos said: Oh cool a trans character time to watch mal have a complete fucking meltdown Except there are no Trans characters in this anime. Don't worry Mal will ha e plenty of other things to meltdown about |
billybub said: Atlos said: Oh cool a trans character time to watch mal have a complete fucking meltdown Except there are no Trans characters in this anime. Don't worry Mal will ha e plenty of other things to meltdown about did you see the end of the episode? |
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Atlos said: billybub said: Except there are no Trans characters in this anime. Don't worry Mal will ha e plenty of other things to meltdown about did you see the end of the episode? It's one of my favorite manga's, I know what I'm talking about |
I don't understand how you think they aren't trans then |
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Atlos said: billybub said: Except there are no Trans characters in this anime. Don't worry Mal will ha e plenty of other things to meltdown about did you see the end of the episode? But did you actually watch the 2 episodes? |
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Because A) I'm on chapter 53 and you are on 7 B) I actually paid attention to what was said |
| I wonder if those two were genetically modified to be able to take out those "Man Eaters"? |
| yes??? billybub said: Sure. Whatever.Because A) I'm on chapter 53 and you are on 7 B) I actually paid attention to what was said |
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Atlos said: yes??? billybub said: Sure. Whatever.Because A) I'm on chapter 53 and you are on 7 B) I actually paid attention to what was said Well then you should figure out why the trans bs would make no sense. |
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| at 21:50 "It might be crazy, but I am being serious so I want you to understand. My body's a woman's but in here my mind is a man's. So.. I'm a man. They also refer to themselves with boku which is generally a more masculine way to refer to yourself in Japanese idk how you can spin this any other way |
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Atlos said: at 21:50 "It might be crazy, but I am being serious so I want you to understand. My body's a woman's but in here my mind is a man's. So.. I'm a man. They also refer to themselves with boku which is generally a more masculine way to refer to yourself in Japanese idk how you can spin this any other way Want hints? The mirror scene Being unsure about her age The whole conversation with the guy who recognized Kiruko as the racer who disappeared after an accident, in which her brother was killed and how she looks identical to that racer but for some reason she denies that and insists he mistook her for someone else and just wants to ignore that topic Telling that " my body is a woman's and my b r a i n/mind is a man's" - the translation here was kinda inaccurate because she said literal brain. So yeah, considering all these hints we got from both episodes, idk how you or others can think "oh so she is trans". It would just make no sense for all of this to just be plot for Kiruko being a trans. |
GTRaijinApr 11, 2023 2:29 PM
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Atlos said: at 21:50 "It might be crazy, but I am being serious so I want you to understand. My body's a woman's but in here my mind is a man's. So.. I'm a man. They also refer to themselves with boku which is generally a more masculine way to refer to yourself in Japanese idk how you can spin this any other way Because A)I've read the manga and know the answer B) She uses Nō which does not mean "mind" Sorry to burst your bubble but she's not trans |
GTRaijin said: "the translation here was kinda inaccurate because she said literal brain" this change nothing?Atlos said: at 21:50 "It might be crazy, but I am being serious so I want you to understand. My body's a woman's but in here my mind is a man's. So.. I'm a man. They also refer to themselves with boku which is generally a more masculine way to refer to yourself in Japanese idk how you can spin this any other way Want hints? The mirror scene, being unsure about her age, the whole conversation with the guy who recognized Kiruko as the racer who disappeared after an accident, in which her brother was killed and how she looks identical to that racer but for some reason she denies that and insists he mistook her for someone else and just wants to ignore that topic, telling that " my body is a woman's and my b r a i n/mind is a man's" - the translation here was kinda inaccurate because she said literal brain. So yeah, considering all these hints we got from both episodes, idk how you or others can think "oh so she is trans". It would just make no sense for all of this to just be plot for Kiruko being a trans. I really don't want to turn the episode thread into this dumbass discussion |
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CielIsAWeeb said: Homura24 said: another amazing ep this anime is so underrated the world is so interesting I love the mysterious atmosphere in this show What's up with the kids kissing at the beginning tho... also, kiruko is a man??tf but ig that would explain her trying to kiss the mirror in ep 1 and the guy falling scene was somehow so creepy, brutal and weird well cant wait for ep 3 it’s not underrated… everyone’s talking about this anime. nowhere near enough like jigokuraku |
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Jigokuraku has ninjas need I say more? |
Atlos said: at 21:50 "It might be crazy, but I am being serious so I want you to understand. My body's a woman's but in here my mind is a man's. So.. I'm a man. They also refer to themselves with boku which is generally a more masculine way to refer to yourself in Japanese idk how you can spin this any other way Atlos said: "the translation here was kinda inaccurate because she said literal brain" this change nothing? I really don't want to turn the episode thread into this dumbass discussion Someone answer me, I'm the anormal one actually? That person who actually reads the thread before commenting and responding? People really comes to these threads, arrive in like page 5 and start arguing without reading the previous pages, repeating misunderstandings there were already cleared out? PaninaManina said: I commented this in another thread, I think the subtitles dropped the ball during that scene (and maybe others)? When the character is explaining, contrary to what subtitles in all languages say, what "she" said was not "my mind", it was actually, "my brain". Literally the grey matter was switched bodies from his original body to that one.  With the correct word the situation is a bit different, it's a case of stolen identity. That body belonging to another singular person that was alive and is known by a lot of people gives a whole different dimension to the issue that goes far beyond just gender (dysphoria), don't you think? And I also wonder, in this strange world with unexpected advanced technology, it could be possible for the character to change bodies again, right? If not to his original body at least to a masculine body. This I discussed in other posts in this thread, being the situation an unsolicited brain transplant and this being a world where people can transplant brains matters a lot. The character seems like he doesn't know why this was done to him, so besides discovering why it was done he can also find a way to revert back to his (or other) masculine self. Yes, this is still a "Trans Story", technically, because there's a lot to do about identity, just not the way most expect. Both main characters, Kiruko AND Maru, are searching for their "other" self. DarkrusChannel said: The future liberals want I don't want to feed the trolls, but seriously, I don't understand this. I assume this person is a "conservative". But conservatives don't love the past? So why they have a problem with this? I can only be because the past they think and idealize is a made up fantasy, because for most of the past homens and trans where an everyday thing in most of the world. What is new is only, maybe, this so oh fragile masculinity. Most trans people are most "manly" than most man, being truth to themselves. |
PaninaManinaApr 11, 2023 2:57 PM
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PaninaManina said: Bro i literally have femboy supremacist in description as well as femboy on avatar Atlos said: at 21:50 "It might be crazy, but I am being serious so I want you to understand. My body's a woman's but in here my mind is a man's. So.. I'm a man. They also refer to themselves with boku which is generally a more masculine way to refer to yourself in Japanese idk how you can spin this any other way Atlos said: "the translation here was kinda inaccurate because she said literal brain" this change nothing? I really don't want to turn the episode thread into this dumbass discussion Someone answer me, I'm the anormal one actually? That person who actually reads the thread before commenting and responding? People really comes to these threads, arrive in like page 5 and start arguing without reading the previous pages, repeating misunderstandings there were already cleared out? PaninaManina said: I commented this in another thread, I think the subtitles dropped the ball during that scene (and maybe others)? When the character is explaining, contrary to what subtitles in all languages say, what "she" said was not "my mind", it was actually, "my brain". Literally the grey matter was switched bodies from his original body to that one. With the correct word the situation is a bit different, it's a case of stolen identity. That body belonging to another singular person that was alive and is known by a lot of people gives a whole different dimension to the issue that goes far beyond just gender (dysphoria), don't you think? And I also wonder, in this strange world with unexpected advanced technology, it could be possible for the character to change bodies again, right? If not to his original body at least to a masculine body. This I discussed in other posts in this thread, being the situation an unsolicited brain transplant and this being a world where people can transplant brains matters a lot. The character seems like he doesn't know why this was done to him, so besides discovering why it was done he can also find a way to revert back to his (or other) masculine self. Yes, this is still a "Trans Story", technically, because there's a lot to do about identity, just not the way most expect. Both main characters, Kiruko AND Maru, are searching for their "other" self. DarkrusChannel said: The future liberals want I don't want to feed the trolls, but seriously, I don't understand this. I assume this person is a "conservative". But conservatives don't love the past? So why they have a problem with this? I can only be because the past they think and idealize is a made up fantasy, because for most of the past homens and trans where an everyday thing in most of the world. What is new is only, maybe, this so oh fragile masculinity. Most trans people are most "manly" than most man, being truth to themselves. Its just le funny meme Buuuuut i will admit that all of that teenage horny shit is bothering me slightly - it could turn out great and weired and cool, it could also be a downfall of the show cuz of pointless drama that makes no sence |
PaninaManina said: Atlos said: at 21:50 "It might be crazy, but I am being serious so I want you to understand. My body's a woman's but in here my mind is a man's. So.. I'm a man. They also refer to themselves with boku which is generally a more masculine way to refer to yourself in Japanese idk how you can spin this any other way Atlos said: "the translation here was kinda inaccurate because she said literal brain" this change nothing? I really don't want to turn the episode thread into this dumbass discussion Someone answer me, I'm the anormal one actually? That person who actually reads the thread before commenting and responding? People really comes to these threads, arrive in like page 5 and start arguing without reading the previous pages, repeating misunderstandings there were already cleared out? PaninaManina said: I commented this in another thread, I think the subtitles dropped the ball during that scene (and maybe others)? When the character is explaining, contrary to what subtitles in all languages say, what "she" said was not "my mind", it was actually, "my brain". Literally the grey matter was switched bodies from his original body to that one. With the correct word the situation is a bit different, it's a case of stolen identity. That body belonging to another singular person that was alive and is known by a lot of people gives a whole different dimension to the issue that goes far beyond just gender (dysphoria), don't you think? And I also wonder, in this strange world with unexpected advanced technology, it could be possible for the character to change bodies again, right? If not to his original body at least to a masculine body. This I discussed in other posts in this thread, being the situation an unsolicited brain transplant and this being a world where people can transplant brains matters a lot. The character seems like he doesn't know why this was done to him, so besides discovering why it was done he can also find a way to revert back to his (or other) masculine self. Yes, this is still a "Trans Story", technically, because there's a lot to do about identity, just not the way most expect. Both main characters, Kiruko AND Maru, are searching for their "other" self. DarkrusChannel said: The future liberals want I don't want to feed the trolls, but seriously, I don't understand this. I assume this person is a "conservative". But conservatives don't love the past? So why they have a problem with this? I can only be because the past they think and idealize is a made up fantasy, because for most of the past homens and trans where an everyday thing in m ost of the world. What is new is only, maybe, this so oh fragile masculinity. Most trans people are most "manly" than most man, being truth to themselves. Ok have you actually read the Manga? Because if you have your either not paying attention or willingly ignoring things in order to fit your own agenda. Kiruko is NOT trans full stop. If you are so desperate to see a trans character go watch Skip and Loafer there's literally one right out in the open. |
billybub said: PaninaManina said: Someone answer me, I'm the anormal one actually? That person who actually reads the thread before commenting and responding? People really comes to these threads, arrive in like page 5 and start arguing without reading the previous pages, repeating misunderstandings there were already cleared out? This I discussed in other posts in this thread, being the situation an unsolicited brain transplant and this being a world where people can transplant brains matters a lot. The character seems like he doesn't know why this was done to him, so besides discovering why it was done he can also find a way to revert back to his (or other) masculine self. Yes, this is still a "Trans Story", technically, because there's a lot to do about identity, just not the way most expect. Both main characters, Kiruko AND Maru, are searching for their "other" self. I don't want to feed the trolls, but seriously, I don't understand this. I assume this person is a "conservative". But conservatives don't love the past? So why they have a problem with this? I can only be because the past they think and idealize is a made up fantasy, because for most of the past homens and trans where an everyday thing in m ost of the world. What is new is only, maybe, this so oh fragile masculinity. Most trans people are most "manly" than most man, being truth to themselves. Ok have you actually read the Manga? Because if you have your either not paying attention or willingly ignoring things in order to fit your own agenda. Kiruko is NOT trans full stop. If you are so desperate to see a trans character go watch Skip and Loafer there's literally one right out in the open. Idk why are we even trying ;D Guess people nowadays will call anything trans and lgbtq or whatever for attention? They might tell me that Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo is trans anime as well. I have enough of that crap in my country already. |
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GTRaijin said: billybub said: Ok have you actually read the Manga? Because if you have your either not paying attention or willingly ignoring things in order to fit your own agenda. Kiruko is NOT trans full stop. If you are so desperate to see a trans character go watch Skip and Loafer there's literally one right out in the open. Idk why are we even trying ;D Guess people nowadays will call anything trans and lgbtq or whatever for attention? They might tell me that Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo is trans anime as well. I have enough of that crap in my country already. It's just annoying to see people try and shoe horn their identity polics into this show. I want this anime to be liked and watched for its story, art, etc. Not because of some bs made up controversy. The best part is I promise you some of the people in this thread will be having a complete fit in 2 to 3 weeks |
Apolygon2 said: rsc-pl said: I don't really give a shit, but this clearly has to do something with her "dead" brother.I'm sick of you, trans activists. You're cancerous wherever you pop up. I didn't read the manga, but from setting and mystery aura of this series alone I can tell that generally fuck you and your delusional bullshit. It's a part of the story, has nothing to do with activism. I was talking about people in this thread that are already made a trans character of her. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| The fact some people try to twist this into Kiruko being trans is astonishing. I know you like representation, but this aint it. This does not look like a scuffed explanation that she/he/they is/are trans. All this points to some kind of mindswap between a girl and a boy. TWO actual people becoming ONE. Not gender dysphoria. SCI-FI bullshit, guess most of the people defaulting to trans are not accustomed with that and too influenced with the current 'woke' western trend. On the flipside, people that drop this show because they think it is now a 'tranny show' are absolute brainlets. |
igundamApr 12, 2023 4:07 AM
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| I can see that a lot of things are done quite well, but something's not working for me. I just can't feel any weight in any of the scenes. The story is moving a bit too fast. |
igundam said: The fact some people try to twist this into Kiruko being trans is astonishing. I know you like representation, but this aint it. This does not look like a scuffed explanation that she/he/they is/are trans. All this points to some kind of mindswap between a girl and a boy. TWO actual people becoming ONE. Not gender dysphoria. SCI-FI bullshit, guess most of the people defaulting to trans are not accustomed with that and too influenced with the current 'woke' western trend. On the flipside, people that drop this show because they think it is now a 'tranny show' are absolute brainlets. As someone who's read the manga it is truly amazing. Just wait, the people celebrating "Muh Representation" will be the 1st to either drop this or start bitching about "problematic" shit in a few weeks. Also agreed, if you're not watching this because there was a possibility of a trans character your just as stupid |
| The horror was good in this one, the cinematic scenes were brief but cool nonetheless. We got some insights into the man-eating monsters or "Hiruko" the word Maru and Kiriko use to call it. |
SupremestrawhatApr 12, 2023 9:35 AM
“There are only two types of people in the world--those who became otaku and those who didn't--and the latter just can't understand what the former is so excited about."--Ono Norihiro  |
| Understand better after the final reveal why "she" wanted to kiss her reflection in the mirror during episode 1. It may be the presumed dead brother's spirit that is there in this case. On another note it's suspicious the guy survive that fall without a scratch. |
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| This anime is such an enigma all around, and truly is amplifying the heck out of that mystery tag. I'm not sorry for the Inn keeper that got killed like that, I really think she went crazy after her son died having people come by and drugging them", but man this is quite fascinating. It's going to be hard to wait for the next one, but I still have so many questions... |
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| Why is this thread political? Just watch anime bruh |
Yes but people are comparing jigokuraku with demon slayer and jjk that’s why it’s so talked about. This anime is still getting talked about it’s not really underrated. If we’re talking underrated this season it would include anime like: Otaku Elf, Cafe Terrace and Its Goddesses, dare I say even Magical destroyers or that Anime about bad girls falling in love with a nerd due to his grandfather passing down a secret code to him. |
| The adaptation so far is pretty strong, but I can't help but feel like the artstyle (and staging choices) sacrifices a lot of the manga's own's comedic elements. Ishiguro is great at funny faces, and it pains me to lose stuff like this in the raft scene It's clear they want to do more than just a panel-by-panel recreation or something like that, which is totally respectable, but there is just something so charming and endlessly amusing about Ishiguro's art that I don't think the anime is replicating. They were definitely channelling a lot of that manga energy into the confession scene, though. That was great, and it was even "anime original." More of that, please. |
| Mostly solid but a bit rushed? Most of the intense scenes were far too short, they needed more breathing room |
| I really like the manga and so far, this adaptation is quite robust. IG as often does a great job visually, but also the direction and pace is pretty dynamic and good. I particularly like the animation of Maru and Kiroku, there's a lot of love and good taste here. Sound, music and voice acting are all very good. Let's hope they keep it that way all along. |
| So who is piloting the body? The brother or the sister? |
| Damn that death was brutal. This show continues to impress |
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