Are your 10/10's really 10/10'?

ateks said:

You'd need to watch the whole anime first to understand because this is actually the last 3 episodes of it, the anime itself was fine until this point.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/18857/Ore_no_Imouto_ga_Konnani_Kawaii_Wake_ga_Nai_Specials

Faxtual_Ghoul said:
First of all PERFECTION DOES NOT EXIST BECAUSE MARY SUE AND GARY STU DO NOT EXIST IN REAL LIFE

However, my 10/10s are objectively better than any other piece of non-Japanese art produced in human history

How can something even better exist than Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex, Madoka Magica, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Monster, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Serial Lain Experiment and Bloom into You?

StormStar said:

I press F to doubt, you think legend of galactic heroes is superior to any non Japanese body of work or art ever created?
Even Paul Cadden's artwork? The writing of Plato? the books of Ernest Hemmingway?
Worst take i've read this year lol.

StormStar said:
I press F to doubt, you think legend of galactic heroes is superior to any non Japanese body of work or art ever created?
Even Paul Cadden's artwork? The writing of Plato? the books of Ernest Hemmingway?
Worst take i've read this year lol.

WatchTillTandava said:
Out of 217 series seen up to this point (I count a series as seen if I have watched to full completion at least one full season of it, although most I have seen all seasons of or they are only one season series to begin with), I have only seven 10/10s as well as one for one film (Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi/Spirited Away).
You ask if I unironically rate all my 10/10s as "perfect masterpieces", but the descriptor MAL uses next to the 10 rating is simply "masterpiece", which is a bit different than perfect and I don't take to be synonymous with it.
"Perfect" implies there are literally zero flaws or even the most minor or minute thing I would change in the entirety of the series' length in every episode from second one and the first shot to the last. This is quite an elusive, perhaps almost illusory goal, don't you think? I do use the rating literally, the same as my use of all the other numerical ratings on the 1 - 10 scale is an approximation in line with what I deem the rating seems intended to convey, but in the case of the 10, as I said, that's "masterpiece" rather than "perfect".
Of course, with only 10 numbers to choose from and not even a .5 half point recognized or other more granular decimal system it stands to reason that after seeing dozens, hundreds, or more series, that not every series given any one numerical rating, including the 10, will be the exact identical quality or represent the same potency in personal value/meaning in a person's head to another given the very same rating. So yeah, I don't feel the same way about all of my 10/10s compared to one another, the same as all my 9/10s compared to one another, all my 8/10s, my 7/10s, etc.
Just regarding the 10/10s, only one do I consider to be actually perfect in the truly literal sense (Koi Kaze) and it is, in fact, the only perfect piece of art or media entry to me in existence (and I've seen a hell of a lot outside of and before venturing into anime).
 I consider another three to be practically or functionally perfect in the sense that there are one or a few minor issues or aspects I could criticize or would change, but they are so dwarfed by the power of the overwhelming positives in the grand scheme of things that they're "perfect enough" or functionally perfect to me (Inuyasha, Haibane Renmei, and Higurashi).
And the remaining three I consider not perfect and containing one or more issues that I can't completely write off or ignore, but still masterpiece-tier (Kenpuu Denki Berserk, Serial Experiments Lain, and Usagi Drop).

Theotakuwerewolf said:
For me it comes down to personal taste. Really One Piece should probably be a 9/10 for me. Mainly because compared to the manga, its pacing is slower and some episodes drag on. But as a whole, i adore the series just as much as i enjoy FMAB, so i can't help but want to give it a 10/10

StormStar said:
I knocked One Piece down to a 9 for killing Whitebeard and down to an 8 for Foxy existing.

Theotakuwerewolf said:
I mean... those are fair and valid reasons to knock it down a rating. Especially because of Foxy. Only thing enjoyable abut that arc to me was afro Luffy.

StormStar said:


I agree with most of your points, and there are a few anime that I almost put as a 10 rating, due to how much I enjoyed them, but I was debating with myself what a 10 really means. Because like you said the 10 rating does just say masterpiece. Then again there is no way to go higher than that, so it made me not want to put them as a 10 because that's the peak, and the limited numeric 1-10 scale doesn't give much room for juggling around orders within brackets.

When it comes to perfect and masterpiece, theres some shows I would rate a 93-96 out of 100 for example, but hesitate to put at a 10/10, even though they are above a 9, I don't feel comfortable giving them an actual 100/100.
There's lots of shows I gave an 8 that I would bump up to a 9, but then there are a couple of flaws in some of those shows that kind of bugged me, so I put them as an 8 to represent those flaws I didn't enjoy, even if I did overall love the show. 

I would of been able to rate shows more accurately if it was a 0-100 rating, lots of wiggle room to deduct points for small annoyances while still giving it a very high score, like knocking off only 1 point out of 100 for each blemish I didn't enjoy, instead of having to knock off a whole 1/10th of a chunk at a time.
I am having trouble ranking quite a few shows, and when I look at my list, I notice it doesn't represent everything properly, especially the 7 (good) rating, there's lots of shows that don't belong in the same bracket as others in my list, but I don't want to knock a 7 down to a 6 when I thought it was good, even if I like some 7's way more than other sevens.
Then the same problem comes with 10's and 1's there are some shows I really didn't like but I think giving it a 1 is too harsh because it's the absolute bottom, where I might actually give it a 3/100 or 4/100 in a 0/100 rating because it shows how much I disliked it, but also shows it still could have been worse.

WatchTillTandava said:

If there existed a decimal system in the ratings to provide further nuance and differentiation of like a 10 point spread, such as 1 or 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 2.0, 2.1, etc. all the way up to 10 or 10.0, then in that case for whatever reason it would more truly imply to me that 10.0 is the ultimate nearly unattainable "perfect" rating. In such a scenario, then out of the series I mentioned, I would probably rate my current 10s as: Koi Kaze - 10.0; Inuyasha, Haibane Renmei, and Higurashi - 9.9; and Kenpuu Denki Berserk, Serial Experiments Lain, and Usagi Drop - 9.5.

But I'm also happy and content with the system that exists as I feel due to my latent OCD mindset a more granular and specific system would lead to only more excessive agonizing and ruminating over the ratings and a lot of wasted time and energy, so I feel like the system as it exists currently is an appropriate and useful shorthand which is close enough for conveying the gist of my view and appraisal of any given series. Even if I would rate all my current 10s, for example, as one 10, a few 9.9s, and a few 9.5s, I still feel like "10" is close enough for all of them that they can be generalized, categorized, and summed up in this way, the same for all my 9s, 8s, 7s, 6s, etc. People should just know and assume that just because you have seven series rated a 10/10, it doesn't mean you feel 100% exactly the same way about every single one of them, the same as you probably don't feel the same way about all of your 8s or 6s or 5s. 7/10s and 6/10s are my most commonly used ratings and I know I sure don't feel the same way about all of my 7s or 6s compared to one another as there is a hell of a lot of individual variation in the degree to which I invested in, connected with, and what I got out of a series.

Some series have absolutely fascinating premises and ideas and one or two amazing aspects like the writing or music, but everything else is so lacking or flawed I can't bear to give them more than a 6 or 7, whereas some do virtually everything right and are nearly flawless or perceivably flawless from a technical perspective but the core premise and perspectives of the story are too pedestrian and humdrum to me compared to what other series have to offer, that I also can't rate them above, say, a 7, but the two 7s from my two examples would then be rated that way for radically different reasons. I think about this often when in the process of actually physically rating series, but the inherent logic may appear a bit abstract or confusing and convoluted to others.

Also, I forgot to mention in my original post that I cannot speak to the issue revolving around 1/10s, as I've never rated anything that low. I've never employed a rating lower than the 2/10.

Minusmushi said:
Is more -" oh looks at us , with fancy and polite taste in anime"

But I know ppl that actually enjoyed .  . boruto ..  so I don't know if you or I have "taste" or just with don't tolerate the bitter flavours
or even tolerate themself

Faxtual_Ghoul said:


However, my 10/10s are objectively better than any other piece of non-Japanese art produced in human history

Faxtual_Ghoul said:
Is this suppose to be a joke?

I have read War and Peace, every classic literature, Song of Fire and Ice, Don Quixote etc. Compared to Legend of the Galactic Heroes they are all one sided, shallow, overly dramatic and too simple. And don't even dare to compare Tokyo Ghoul to any non-Japanese literature.

perfectionFound said:
I used to think just like this but then I discovered The Queen's Gambit from netflix.
It's the closest thing to Chihayafuru outside japan (my first 10)
I absolutely loved it.
It even has more romance and that makes it a bit better imo, even though Chihayafuru has a superior waifu.

StormStar said:
Nice bait, even the most extreme Japanophile weeb wouldn't have said that about Tokyo Ghoul, I almost believed you wasn't trolling until you said Tokyo Ghoul was good, it's basically Twilight for weebs.

Faxtual_Ghoul said:
I was talking about the Manga

But since you have JoJo Part 5, One Punch Man and Jormungand in your favourites I doubt your discernment skills

StormStar said:
Just because I haven't added anything to my manga list don't think I haven't read lots. The ending of Tokyo Ghoul manga was dogshit, and Jojo's part 5 and Jormungand are great shows, in fact Jojos part 5 Anime adaptation was done so well it's even better than the manga was. Tokyo Ghoul is mid af, Anime was garbage and the manga ending was a pile of crap.

StormStar said:

Just because I haven't added anything to my manga list don't think I haven't read lots. The ending of Tokyo Ghoul manga was dogshit, and Jojo's part 5 and Jormungand are great shows, in fact Jojos part 5 Anime adaptation was done so well it's even better than the manga was. Tokyo Ghoul is mid af, Anime was garbage and the manga ending was a pile of crap.

Faxtual_Ghoul said:
The Ending may be dogshit but everything from first chapter to the second last chapter was quintessential; the characterization was way better than even those russian novels and song of fire and ice, themes were just phenomenal. If this is what you call mid then I feel sorry for you

Also, the fact that you are calling Edgy garbage like Jormungand and JoJo Part 5 which has vacuous characters 'Amazing' made me doubt your discernment skills.