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| Not bad, but the ending is d*** freaking scary!! |
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Nayrael said: Rule #1, assume the person hasn't read the manga or light novels. Believe me, you'll get much less grief if you live by that rule when discussing anime.Ummm...could you enlighten us with your findings? Putting picture up without an explaination is meaningless. Those who know the Light Novel spoilers will understand what it means. And it is a VERY interesting find for us. |
| What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about? |
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| wOOOOw...that was pretty crazy episode :O |
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. Reminder on spoilers? Nop discussion of manga please, not everyone has read it. Anyway, I'm surprised Railgun is actually interesting me now..for other reasons than fanservice, better than Index tbh. Hope Kiyama gets her thing done. |
| I liked it, I just want to see more Misaki and Touma moments, they're always hilarious :D! (Hoping for Touma x Misaki) (and not Touma x index) :P |
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chinlamp said: Where is Touma though? I know this one's supposed to be about biribiri, but he could stop all this in no time. Well don't expect Touma to have much to do in railgun plot for now, he will be a little more present in the imouto arc but that's it. chinlamp said: I'm guessing (cos I have no idea) that his right hand is an AIM field nullifier. If it were related to the AIM field then his power would be an ability, which isn't. My guess is that it's a perfect syncronism of magic and science tough anyway it won't have something to do with the AIM field. chinlamp said: Also, next week, biribiri gets borderline tentacle rape scene. Imo being strangled and raped is two different thing, no there won't be H-scene, not even ecchi one (except if they chose to do an anime original one) |
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| Exciting Episode Everyone always have a reason for doing something ... guess it was the children that made her do all this .. they spent more time on the flashback. |
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chinlamp said: Laevantein said: chinlamp said: Get on it..read the manga..XD.. Touma? He is busy with Index..probably,Huh, I really feel I should start reading the manga. Where is Touma though? I know this one's supposed to be about biribiri, but he could stop all this in no time. I'm guessing (cos I have no idea) that his right hand is an AIM field nullifier. Fetus thing made no sense and in the previews looks like a bad CENCOROLL monster. Also, next week, biribiri gets borderline tentacle rape scene. Isn't this still before then? And why did we not get to see how Misaka and Touma really met? Ugh, whatever, I'm gonna have to read the manga. I was reminded that during this time frame, Time Diagram was blew up by you know who... so now there's zero chance to it to help the children now =.= |
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kaminakun said: I was reminded that during this time frame, Time Diagram was blew up by you know who... so now there's zero chance to it to help the children now =.= That's why she used the level upper, it's connecting in such way as to act as a substitute for Three Diagram. But with all those esper in Academy City, shouldn't at least one be able to resurrect the dead? |
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| Good episode. And from reading some earlier posts, will Accelerator make an appearance? God yes please. |
| Another awesome episode, Index cant even come close to this...my entry http://gamesmind.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/to-aru-kagaku-no-railgun-11-red-eyes-pink-fetus/ also lol @ ritsu |
Rodaa said: kaminakun said: I was reminded that during this time frame, Time Diagram was blew up by you know who... so now there's zero chance to it to help the children now =.= That's why she used the level upper, it's connecting in such way as to act as a substitute for Three Diagram. But with all those esper in Academy City, shouldn't at least one be able to resurrect the dead? Actually Tree Diagram hasn't been destroyed... yet. |
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| It could have been a great episode, developpements were interesting and it was as well animated and directed as ever, but the second half became too dramatic and overplayed for its own good. Well, I guess that's the To Aru curse, even if Raigun is far less plagued by this fact than Index. The main problem now is that the build up for the last episode is not really good and we are probably heading to an unsatisfactory ending. |
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| That was great. One of the best episodes so far in Railgun. Really emotional with the flashback and I felt bad for Kiyama. It's terrible what they did to those children, I almost raged. The fetus thing at the end was weird. |
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MrTerrorist said: Rodaa said: kaminakun said: I was reminded that during this time frame, Time Diagram was blew up by you know who... so now there's zero chance to it to help the children now =.= That's why she used the level upper, it's connecting in such way as to act as a substitute for Three Diagram. But with all those esper in Academy City, shouldn't at least one be able to resurrect the dead? Actually Tree Diagram hasn't been destroyed... yet. Indeed, the Tree Diagram get destroyed latter. Also I would like to state that at this point Index entered the game and is living with Touma. |
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| I enjoyed it, I havent read the manga and to be honest, I', glad I havent, I dont want to know what is coming and wonder how it will be represented on the screen. It was a shock when all the kids that Kiyama taught died in the experiment, I had my hand over my mouth for that =o I certainly cant fault her mission anymore. I hope she gets assistance from Judgment =) |
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| the monster! wtf that's not logical in science. XD |
| I really enjoyed this ep. Yes the fight scene between them was a bit short but I'd rather it be short than drag on for 2 episodes. I really liked the flashback with her and the children. Can't wait for next episode: Mikoto Vs. Freaky Fetsu of death. |
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| Aw, the poor little kids! I was horrified to see the little puddle of blood from the one girl... |
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| And I must've screamed 'what the fuck' 23 times with that creepy fetus coming out of her brain. I know this show promised to pack action, but isn't this going alittle overboard? It's getting a bit gory for my taste, I hope they tone it down and stick to action, not human-research horror techniques, my god. But they action though, very good. Last episode promised action, and it certainly did bring it, so I'm glad. But now, I'm alittle freaked. |
| I really liked the episode even though it has a few sad moments. A multiple abilities user is a quote powerful, yet Misaka defeated Kiyama. After the flashback made sense in the end, I realize that Kiyama is a not bad person. The story of Kiyama's teaching days was very well done, and the fights was epic awesome. I actually hope that Touma will join and help with Misaka. |
gameoffreak8Dec 12, 2009 3:14 PM
| nice episode. good to see some motives behind her plans to create a network. now a fetus appears. lmao. looking forward to the fight. |
| so flashback episode, and the reason why she hooked up 10,000 people to a network |
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| A fetus showed up at the end, huh? Otherwise could tell where the flashback was going a second end but no less harsh. |
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| Good episode overall. The only criticisms I can think of are the odd logic behind the memory transfer as well as the melodrama being, well, obnoxiously shoved in our faces (i.e. no subtlety). Regardless, it was an interesting flashback and I honestly felt awful for those kids ;_; The head researcher dude didn't even want to save them..! On a side note, that fetus thing was really WTF. Next episode doesn't look overly promising, though, but I'll withhold judgment until I actually watch it. |
AeternaDec 12, 2009 10:26 PM
| To be honest, I was obdurate throughout... the same staid villain idea where they get beat up, then reveal their terrible, sad past, followed always by the attacker relenting; subsequently, of course something has to happen that yet again either has the villain gaining the upper hand during this distracting time frame or simply dying and making the attacker saddened. Okay, maybe it was a bit general, but it's still been used to a point of exhaustion. Other than that, I had no quarrels with Misaka's "I'm an Official Badass"(TM) Actually, I expected for Touma to fall out of nowhere and totally negate every esper power thrown at him. THAT would have been epic. |
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This episode was amazing with one problem if Touma would have been there he would stop Kiyama's powers in one shot! I liked that Kiyama already had some device to wake up all the users in a coma. I loved all of the action from Kiyama's telekinesis, water control, earth control, graviton powers, shock wave powers and over 10 000 abilities. Personally I would love to use them to eliminate poverty, famine, destroy the economy and make things unlimited. At first I though Misaka would get crushed with that pillar being extracted but when one aluminum can went behind her to blow up I get really scared good thing she made some sort of illusion and got Kiyama. The past of Kiyama made me realize how cruel humans are to each other to a level of killing off kids in this case to see results of out of control situations. I did like the involvement of Kiyama helping the children and not consider them as guinea pigs. Liked the children pranks...made me think of some brats from the old days of my primary school. At the end I was shocked to see that the network went out of control only to have some monster show up. Misaka's shining moment of Kiyama's shocking and establishing a electric connection to her memories was the best for me among the others below..... Edasaki completely captured my heart...she is a nice child that is kind. aminorsus2 said: To be honest, I was obdurate throughout... the same staid villain idea where they get beat up, then reveal their terrible, sad past, followed always by the attacker relenting; subsequently, of course something has to happen that yet again either has the villain gaining the upper hand during this distracting time frame or simply dying and making the attacker saddened. Interesting thinking of how things are done but I don't mind that setup yet, maybe after many animes but there are other things bothering me aminorsus2 said: Okay, maybe it was a bit general, but it's still been used to a point of exhaustion. I agree with you that there are a lot of repetition of other elements in anime that I already observed but I take it more of look for art differences else it gets boring fast.....that is what I noticed shortly. aminorsus2 said: Other than that, I had no quarrels with Misaka's "I'm an Official Badass"(TM) I had a problem about that...because it is already known, the thing that made it quite interesting was her emotional response to Kiyama's past. aminorsus2 said: Yeah! Touma! All hail Touma! I wanted that too. I bet anything he could show up next episode and neutralize the monster in one shot! Actually, I expected for Touma to fall out of nowhere and totally negate every esper power thrown at him. THAT would have been epic. protoman96 said: Is that necessary to understand something?they even skipped the cute explanatory images of how she knew it was coming (eyes in the back of her head). but harumi's story was so well done that i'll forgive that. protoman96 said: What is the bad thing they are doing to make it so bad? I have some questions for you: What in the world is a makeshift shield with magnetic forces? i guess i should probably read the fourth volume of the manga at some point. i've actually been toying with watching the anime first, though, for a change of pace. but maybe i would regret that - ruining the manga by watching the anime first. the anime hasn't been as good as the manga. who knows. The whole hiding something about abilities and ability development not being humane nor safe.....does that lead to another plot in this serie that you would know of? Proselyt said: Her past made me change my mind completely. In the end you were right, I was wrong. I knew Kiyama couldn't be really evil with those sexy eyes of hers. Proselyt said: Of course you know that tentacle rape is popular enough from what I have seen in Queen's blade.But i have to say i expected both to put up more of a fight. I'd rather see two humans fighting than one human with some strange entity and of course this entity must possess some tentacles which at some point will strangle our attractive female lead... kaminakun said: Sorry but you are both wrong....the problem is him Wasabi said: kaminakun said: Wasabi said: It's disappointing that characters like Kiyama who aren't really evil always has to be the ones to get obliterated just to show off the main characters's abilities. Is not like she'll die or anything. Bad guy should get punished by the protagonist ^^ She's not a bad guy though. Even though her method was kind of shady, she had good intentions. okay... wrong choice of word... not really bad... but as far as this episode is concern, she's the enemy for all the "good" guys like I said, nothing life-threatening will happen to her so I don't think there's anything wrong with her getting beat up a little... though in the manga she gave a much harder time to Misaka |
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desolato said: Yes Accelerator! With Touma team up and Misaka....would be epic! Good episode. And from reading some earlier posts, will Accelerator make an appearance? God yes please. maxime1007 said: Really? Yes! Index is in....can she appear in this serie? Even in the background?MrTerrorist said: Rodaa said: kaminakun said: I was reminded that during this time frame, Time Diagram was blew up by you know who... so now there's zero chance to it to help the children now =.= That's why she used the level upper, it's connecting in such way as to act as a substitute for Three Diagram. But with all those esper in Academy City, shouldn't at least one be able to resurrect the dead? Actually Tree Diagram hasn't been destroyed... yet. Indeed, the Tree Diagram get destroyed latter. Also I would like to state that at this point Index entered the game and is living with Touma. xNovice said: Oh god my eyes! Oh god not Ritsu loli ;______; asdf1248 said: How about standing against human testing and animal testing for the sake of moral....Now we know why we need to stand back. ShoutaAzuma said: Not bad, but the ending is d*** freaking scary!! Ah yes same reaction here too about the monster. desolato said: Oh no! D: I hate that guy! Maybe I should do the picture print out and shoot this guy as target practice on glass bottles.....yeah I think so it might help me spend a better night....seriously desolato he is creepy, he should get some plastic surgery....XDfrancismeunier said: I come out at night to haunt you. MAUHAUHAWUAHWA. |
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| A lot happened in this episode, a multi power user, Esper. And then there was a fetus. Now just more Touma too, lol. |
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Toragono said: A lot happened in this episode, a multi power user, Esper. And then there was a fetus. Now just more Touma too, lol. Touma won't come soon, he isn't supposed to make an appearance until midway-near end of the next arc except if anime original material is used. And for those who say that Touma could handle this case without a prob, Touma is not strong. I tough that Kanzaki from Index demonstrated quite properly that Touma is weak. Sure he can nullify any ability but there's ton of way to deal about this, to state a few: -Attacking wthout using an ability (anybody with a sword could slice him up afterall) -Attacking with undirect attack (exemple would be to make something fall on him. -Attacking in more than one angle, only his right arm negate attack, if one come behind and one from the front at the same time then Touma is pretty much fucked up. -Attacking with something Touma can't react to (Kuroko ability as an exemple could teleport a spike wherever she want on Touma except his right hand. -AoE ability would pretty much work as well. Touma would block a part of it but that's it. -A power stronger than what Imagine breaker can block (Yes Imagine breaker can't block everything, Index properly demonstrated that she was able to harm his hand when she attacked, that alone show there's a limit to Touma's power. Touma would has been fucked from the very start. I like Touma's character but he's weak. |
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| So babies are born by linking 10.000 people to a network. |
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| omoshiroi :) that was an interesting episode all things that happend was quite unexpected a bit HUH at that fetus but lets wait for next ep, and see whats gonna happend :D |
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TAB said: So babies are born by linking 10.000 people to a network. Seriously I was wondering when someone would try this one. |
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maxime1007 said: Toragono said: A lot happened in this episode, a multi power user, Esper. And then there was a fetus. Now just more Touma too, lol. maxime1007 said: Touma won't come soon, he isn't supposed to make an appearance until midway-near end of the next arc except if anime original material is used. I suppose this is because of Index? Damn, it would be better if Touma could appear with Index to help Misaka. maxime1007 said: I agree but Touma always has his ways and we don't if he is athletic....to me the battle with Accelerator looks like he might be. And for those who say that Touma could handle this case without a prob, Touma is not strong. I tough that Kanzaki from Index demonstrated quite properly that Touma is weak. Sure he can nullify any ability but there's ton of way to deal about this, to state a few: maxime1007 said: Yeah that is a major problem with Kaori (Katana girl) if she did not spare him....he would be done for. D:-Attacking wthout using an ability (anybody with a sword could slice him up afterall) maxime1007 said: He can dodge it, seen him do it. -Attacking with undirect attack (exemple would be to make something fall on him. maxime1007 said: Yeah that is if he does not see it, he does have good reflexes. -Attacking in more than one angle, only his right arm negate attack, if one come behind and one from the front at the same time then Touma is pretty much fucked up. maxime1007 said: If it's fast it could be a problem for the limits of Touma but once again his sudden luck and athleticism will help him. -Attacking with something Touma can't react to (Kuroko ability as an exemple could teleport a spike wherever she want on Touma except his right hand. maxime1007 said: AoE? He could find a way to nullify, pretty sure about his luck and athletics.-AoE ability would pretty much work as well. Touma would block a part of it but that's it. maxime1007 said: -A power stronger than what Imagine breaker can block (Yes Imagine breaker can't block everything, Index properly demonstrated that she was able to harm his hand when she attacked, that alone show there's a limit to Touma's power. That one I can't argue..it's true but there are not many with the power of over 100 000 forbidden books in someone's body sealed and can be used suddenly. Index's power is unique so it's a rare case. maxime1007 said: He is not weak...he needs maybe more training.Touma would has been fucked from the very start. I like Touma's character but he's weak. Must defend Touma! maxime1007 said: TAB said: So babies are born by linking 10.000 people to a network. Seriously I was wondering when someone would try this one. Well, it's not babies it's more monsters or mutations. |
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| Francis: "So baby are born..." is kinda a meme. Also AoE = Area of effect. I would like to state that Touma is not that atlethic, he is a little above average I would say. Accelerator rely on his power too much and never fought without them, Accelerator is the one who isn't atlethic at all so it's not that Touma was physically strong but that Accelerator was physically weak. |
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maxime1007 said: Francis: "So baby are born..." is kinda a meme. Also AoE = Area of effect. I would like to state that Touma is not that atlethic, he is a little above average I would say. Accelerator rely on his power too much and never fought without them, Accelerator is the one who isn't atlethic at all so it's not that Touma was physically strong but that Accelerator was physically weak. Ok, you are right but Touma can get special traning from Judgment/Anti-Skill and then he might be strong! Yes? |
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francismeunier said: maxime1007 said: Francis: "So baby are born..." is kinda a meme. Also AoE = Area of effect. I would like to state that Touma is not that atlethic, he is a little above average I would say. Accelerator rely on his power too much and never fought without them, Accelerator is the one who isn't atlethic at all so it's not that Touma was physically strong but that Accelerator was physically weak. Ok, you are right but Touma can get special traning from Judgment/Anti-Skill and then he might be strong! Yes? But lol he's a human, a HUMAN, he will never be able to react at things a human couldn't. No matter how much you train if something get impossible then it's impossible. The only thing training would help Touma with is dodging, hitting stronger with his punch or handling a weapon better and even tough his reflex will be better if Misaka want to go into feet sniping railgun mode then Touma'll lose his leg. I also would like to state that his imagine breaker cancel his luck, it does NOT help him so he's even more fucked up. Thing is that idiot got plenty of luck and look like his imagine breaker can't even cancel it completely. Touma won't be joining Anti-skill soon and anyway you saw how they got raped last episode so I wouldn't expect something good from them, everytime they're here Misaka, Touma or Judgement need to clean up even tough it should be the opposite. Now if Touma get some kind of magic power or esper power someday (or both? Anyway I hope it won't go the 'imagine breaker absorb ability then he can use it but he didn't found out yet' route.) Then he'll have a great advantage but as he is now he is indeed weak. |
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| lol , at the funny part of the flashback the poor kids screw you Dr.Geezer; ( If I were Mikoto I would have run away from Dr Superpower. But in fact her electro ability is pretty helpful. the monster at the end was strange I felt like I was in the wrong show. |
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Fabienne said: the poor kids screw you Dr.Geezer; ( Exactly right what I was thinking, I can't still believe something like that. Terrible Screw you Dr. Geezer! V |
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