Best female character?

kirasama99 said:
Who do you think the best/best written out of them?

Xilver said:
There is a pasta going around for years:
The entirety of Ymir's and Christoria's arc culminated in Ymir making that decision and then Historia making her own decision in the cave. That relationship was from the very first second about the dichotomy of the two archetypes:
1. The good girl Christa, who lives for helping others
2. The selfish and self-centered Ymir, who lives for herself
Naturally, as one could guess, it was actually the reverse, under the guise of Christa Historia hid her selfishness, and under the guise of apathy Ymir hid her true caring self, caring to the extreme.
Think about it, she sacrificed herself for her own cult -> got turned into a titan for 60 years -> and even when she got the 2nd chance in life, what did she do? She overheard a conversation about some vague girl in distress, whose story was in some ways similar to hers, and without knowing anything else, she rushed to help her. Joined the fucking military to help her. She then was ready to sacrifice herself again, at Utgard Castle, trying to protect her friend, and friends in general actually. I am gonna go on and say that at Utgard Castle she wasn't only protecting Christa, but everyone else too. Even when the Historia in Christa awakened, stood on the fucking top of the castle and started screaming at her for being selfless, Ymir still at the end chose to protect everyone, even if it meant her death. And she would die, if the scouts didn't reach her in time. She then made a real with Reiner, the deal entailed that she herself must die, again complete selflessness. And upon finding out that she took the life of another for her second chance, she, at the end choose to save her ex comrades, again sacrificing herself, to help Rainer and Bertholdt because she was even able to sympathize with them.
She was always the true Christa, the all caring goddess. Ymir stayed true to what she always was.

While Historia is an ideologically selfish person, At Utgard castle she didn't care at all that everyone were going to die, instead she was throwing stones at titans and was only upset that she had no equipment to die fighting, die a hero. However when Ymir was about to commit a selfless act and die for her friends, it was elaborated further that selfishness for Historia is not just about her own self, it is her ideology, her view of life - "fight for yourself, humans mustn't die for the ideals of others".
When Ymir choose to sacrifice herself and leave, Historia initially was extremely not acceptive of it. But she then understood that people may not agree with her philosophy in life, that it might be rejective to their spirit, she acknowledged that. But that also made her fall into into depression, because no one would get her, she isn't a bad person, she just wants for people to fight for themselves, after all why were we given self if we aren't supposed to fight for ourselves. The one who saved her from her depression was Eren, who simply and straightforwardly concurred with her, like it's a matter of fact. And not only that, he told her that he likes her real self more than her fake self, something she didn't expect to hear from anyone ever.
Now then, the cave scene. Everything came into fruition in that scene, Eren faced the dilemma of ancestral sins while Historia faced with a choice of killing the one person who understood her, the person whose own motto was "Because I was born into this world!". And it is crucial to understand the importance of her words "I won't let you kill me". At the moment, she thought that her father was right, that her killing Eren is the best bet for humanity, humanity's and her father's wish came into conflict with her own wish of not killing Eren, because to her killing him meant her rejecting her own self, her own soul that was kin to him, and embracing the selfless spirit of Karl Fritz, the coward King. That's why when she broke her father's feeble spine the words she spoke were "I won't let you kill me". And then she got angry at Eren, because he for the first time gave up, facing the burden of ancestral sins was something he himself couldn't overcome. That was his lowest point, for the person who is defined by "I was born into this world" to give up on living is his ultimate defeat. She was unhappy with him, because he betrayed his self, the self which Historia liked. For her the decision she made at the time was out of selfishness. But that was the life she was proud of living.
The words she spoke to him that moment virtually spoiled the entire ending act, that's how 1to1 it was. "Screw humanity, they're the problem, let them get wiped out by the titans" - Eren starts doing exactly that. "We're enemies of humanity" - that they become yes. In fact the same problem of ancestral sins is now being faced by the entire nation. And Eren faces the dilemma of selfishness, saving those few who are dear to him by the cost of wiping out the entire world.

So basically i think it's between Ymir(freckles) and Historia. And i give it to Historia because she just has more things going for her.

Some will say Gabi is a well written character, i think she's a completely straight forward character, without much complexity, even a somewhat cliche character, and so is her development. That's why her character is easier to understand. I know i primitivize it heavily but her character development is basically "I thought these people were demons, but now that i met them and lived with them i understand that we're all just humans, and we shouldn't demonize people just because they live somewhere else". The message is very simple, so is the character created to convey it.

kirasama99 said:
Great analysis, Historia definitely had the chance to became a really good character, although her ending and very little presence in the final arcs disappointed me at the very least.

Obscure_Otaku said:
your mom



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kirasama99 said:
Who do you think the best/best written out of them?

tzionsmooth4000 said:
I like Gabi now because seeing her character develop so far has been pretty interesting to see the only character I would say that gives me a close second to her is most likely hange

racers551 said:
Why does everyone hate on Mikasa? Sure, she's not a super complicated individual, and yeah, she does love Eren, but she's been consistently good throughout the story, whereas I can't say necessarily the same for all these other female, or even male characters.

Mikasa in fall of Shiganshina- Return to Shiganshina, to war for paradis, since she didn't actually show a ton in Marley, through rumbling, has a good character, struggling when to follow her heart/Eren, and follow her orders, and while I'd say Gabi's development is great, she's not been in the story long enough to be the best character.

Ymir Freckles is great, but she's also not the best character, imo.

racers551 said:
Why does everyone hate on Mikasa? Sure, she's not a super complicated individual, and yeah, she does love Eren, but she's been consistently good throughout the story, whereas I can't say necessarily the same for all these other female, or even male characters.

Mikasa in fall of Shiganshina- Return to Shiganshina, to war for paradis, since she didn't actually show a ton in Marley, through rumbling, has a good character, struggling when to follow her heart/Eren, and follow her orders, and while I'd say Gabi's development is great, she's not been in the story long enough to be the best character.

Ymir Freckles is great, but she's also not the best character, imo.

Lezzi said:

(Respectfully) Mikasa feels like wasted screen time and half of her "Eren" lines could've been used to let someone else with a more interesting character shine. She is better this season but the silence and the internal turmoil just doesn't feel interesting overall, especially since it does what it needs to for other characters.

I prefer Hange, she's the most interesting female character with similar screen time to Mikasa.

I don't hate Mikasa like so many other people do and I don't think anyone is stupid for liking her she's just not interesting imo.

racers551 said:


The anime kind of reduces a lot of her good lines to just her saying Eren, so that's why I feel like she's partially unappreciated by recent anime fans.

scavydavy said:
Maybe deez is the best character