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Dec 3, 2021 11:34 AM

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Feircei said:
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My point is to never convince a egotist, but to show the world what they are.



I wouldn't say they are the average site wide, but defiantly average when it comes to CE and CD



you know that lions suck at hunting right? they have only a 30% successful hunt record.
they are so bad that they actually actively steal from hyena's which are actually better hunters then lions for hyena's The hunting success rate as a clan can be up to 74%
the best hunter in Africa are the African wild dogs and they achieve a 80% successful hunt rate by actively caring and feeding the weakest's members of the pack.
lions are the weaklings of Africa the more you know.


Do hyenas and wild dogs try to take down big game? I too can get a 100% successful hunting rate by killing 100 thousand ants.

So do those wild dogs take down wildebeests and other heavy prey?

yes both wild dogs and Hyena's hunt large prey (including lions.)
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wild dogs are notorious in Africa because they also do not fear humans because they can vastly out number a hunter meaning if you do not have a car to get away you are dead because they NEVER EVER stop chasing you until you fall down exhausted. they also eat things alive.


African Wild Dog
Lycaon pictus
Group Hunting -Wild dogs do not have big powerful jaws like cats so they cannot bring down large animals
alone. Hunting in a pack requires cooperation among pack members, this enables wild dogs to bring down
animals five times their size. Wild dogs hunt mainly at dawn and dusk because they use their sense of sight
to find prey. They usually approach silently, pursue the fleeing prey until it tires, and then attack and kill the
animal. Their mottled coloring also aids in hunting by making the pack appear larger than it is!
Speedy Pursuit -African wild dogs have tremendous endurance running at speeds of 37 mph for three
miles or more pursuing prey. Their long legs and large lungs help them run long distances without tiring.
Their speed and endurance as well as the pack structure make them successful 70-90% of the time!
Classification
The African wild dog is a member of the “true dog” family, Canidae. They are related to jackals, foxes,
coyotes, wolves, dingoes and even domestic dogs. While hyenas can look similar, they are of a different
family classification (Hyaenidae) and less related than other dogs.
Class: Mammalia
Order: Carnivora
Family: Canidae
Genus: Lycaon
Species: pictus
Distribution
African wild dogs were historically found from the Sahara to South Africa, but are currently more limited in
range.
Habitat
Wild dogs inhabit grassland, savannah, open woodlands and montane regions.
Physical Description
• Weigh between 40-80 pounds (18-36 kg); males and females are the same size.
• Stand about 30 inches (76 cm) at the shoulder.
• Their short fur is brilliantly colored in splotches of black, deep brown, gold and white with a black
muzzle.
• Their tail is relatively large and always tipped with white.
• They are long-legged and slender with a broad skull and large rounded ears.
Diet
What Does It Eat?
In the wild: Thomson’s gazelle, warthog, zebra, wildebeest, impala, springbok and the young of
large antelopes.

list of the top six hunter of africa.

on the list lions are the lowest at 6th place.
https://africafreak.com/hunting-success-rate

Lions are brutal. Sick lions are left behind when a pride moves on. When a kill is made the big male dines first, followed by the females, then the other males get the scraps. The dominant male lion will often kill and force out younger males in order to protect his own dominance.

But after wild dogs make a kill the pack’s juveniles are allowed to eat first. In comparison to chaotic and rowdy hyena, wild dogs eat as if at a dinner table. Each waits its turn and if there isn’t enough food for the entire pack they go out hunting again.
GrimAtramentDec 3, 2021 11:59 AM
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Dec 3, 2021 11:34 AM

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TrishaCat said:
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Where are the warning labels on vaccines that they can kill and cause side effects? Also, no one is forcing you to consume cigarettes but they are forcing us to vaccinate.

The fact that you have to reply 'fuck off' to every person clearly shows a sign of mental illness. But hey, the unvaccinated ones are the crazy ones, don't worry.
they warn you of temporary side effects when you're getting the vaccine (i.e. fever, etc)
Any significant issues aren't mentioned because they're 1 in a million and so far only found in the Astrozenica vaccine, as opposed to cigarettes which harm literally every human that uses them
vaccines help you and everyone else and cigarettes hurt you and everyone else (2nd hand smoke)

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Good to know, thank you, and no I don't use reddit, I tried it but looks boring and it's too bright with no dark mode and too hard to navigate, not gonna read a guide for something so useless, either make it intuitive and easy or don't make it at all.

How long have you been on reddit?


Seen that one now, ok I get it now that you are minor... I give up and therefore you win young lady, I'm an idiot, have a nice rest of the day.





Dec 3, 2021 11:35 AM
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GreyIllusion said:

Then don't force me to take them. It should be MY decision. This has been my arguing point all along. Don't force on people something that can kill them and/or have side effects(some of them are still probably unknown).
yeah but your point is garbage because other humans exist
you are not the only human on the planet
if you were you'd have a point
too bad other people exist and your actions affect not only yourself but them too

fuck off
Dec 3, 2021 11:36 AM

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Feircei said:

But don't worrry, they say the moderators are sleeping these months


Found some rare footage of a mod meeting


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gosh where are the moderators holy fucking shit they should know CD is a shithole by now just lock the damn thread

also i'm 25
i've been here since I was a minor
I used to be nicer! But I have no patience anymore when it comes to people like you
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GreyIllusion said:
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@GreyIllusion

you know the vaccines like all medication actually do have warning labels on the bottle.

they literally even ask you if you have any adverse affects to previous vaccines before you get them.

come on man i know you have to at least known THAT much.


Then don't force me to take them. It should be MY decision. This has been my arguing point all along. Don't force on people something that can kill them and/or have side effects(some of them are still probably unknown).


You do realize why smoking is banned in most establishments? Second hand smoke is just as bad if not more harmful to someone's health.

This should be no different with people who go around who choose to not be vaccinated for a deadly virus. They are potentially putting others at higher risks of contracting something that could kill them. It's common courtesy to keep your hands clean when you are going to shake someone's hand. Yet no one is forcing someone to do so.

It should just be common courtesy to get vaccinated from a deadly virus when you around other people.

If one thing I agree with about this thread is that it shouldn't need to be mandatory, it should just be common sense to get vaccinated.


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people like you


People like me don't get so mad they need to swear over an internet thread.
You clearly know that this website is harming your mental health if you judge me without even knowing me and also from the fact that you lose your patience so easily.

I propose a solution, meditation and avoid the website for a while.





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TrishaCat said:
gosh where are the moderators holy fucking shit they should know CD is a shithole by now just lock the damn thread

also i'm 25
i've been here since I was a minor
I used to be nicer! But I have no patience anymore when it comes to people like you


You are the most rude, uninformed and obnoxious person on this thread. It was going well until you came with your three remaining braincells to insult people purely based on their opinions and life choices. But as Feircei said, you're probably just a child with too much time on their hands. I hope that all of your messages were a trolling attempt because I can't fathom someone being this ignorant.
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ColourWheel said:

If one thing I agree with about this thread is that it shouldn't need to be mandatory, it should just be common sense.


That's not just ''one thing to agree with'', that is literally the only point of the thread lol





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Feircei said:
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If one thing I agree with about this thread is that it shouldn't need to be mandatory, it should just be common sense.


That's not just ''one thing to agree with'', that is literally the only point of the thread lol


You have completely taken my quote out of context. I meant to say this...

If one thing I agree with about this thread is that it shouldn't need to be mandatory, it should just be common sense to get vaccinated.


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GreyIllusion said:
Just like a pregnant woman is allowed to abort, people should also be allowed to choose what they put inside their body. But now we have Austria(and Germany soon to follow) basically forcing people to vaccinate or else they receive a fee and possibly jail time. Why should a young, healthy and fit person have to be forced to take in their body something that's still experimental and could have side effects? Not to mention that they expect you to take a jab every six months. I'm not an antivaxxer but I can spot insanity from a mile.

What about the Nuremberg Code? We're just gonna ignore it like this?

Also, watch this topic get deleted because freedom of speech is basically a myth.


A pregnant woman cannot infect other people with pregnancy. You are making a false equivalency.
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GreyIllusion said:


You are the most rude, obnoxious
This is intentional, I am angry with you and angry with this thread
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uninformed
You made a claim about the fda's relationship with tobacco as a means of showing that their word means null and that the vaccine that they claim is approved is experimental, I provided a link proving your claim wrong, you moved goalposts and continued to make the original claim

That you have the audacity to then claim someone else in the thread is uninformed is ridiculous
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ColourWheel said:
Feircei said:


That's not just ''one thing to agree with'', that is literally the only point of the thread lol

You have taken my quote out of context. I meant to say this...
If one thing I agree with about this thread is that it shouldn't need to be mandatory, it should just be common sense to get vaccinated.


Well common sense was never coomon to begin with, that's why there's hundreds of schools of thought in phylosophy.
Also I stand my point my blood is worth the life of a minimum of 8388608 people who are at least 21th grade cousins.

I'm glad to save another and protect anyone, but not suicidal. Make the virus 0% death rate





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TrishaCat said:
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You are the most rude, obnoxious
This is intentional, I am angry with you.
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uninformed
You made a claim about the fda's relationship with tobacco as a means of showing that their word means null and that the vaccine that they claim is approved is experimental, I provided a link proving you wrong, you moved goalposts and continued to make the original claim

That you have the audacity to then claim someone else in the thread is uninformed is ridiculous


I'm not wrong, the FDA approved tobacco, it doesn't mean in which year they approved it. My claim was right.
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How the fuck does pregnancy/abortion have any correlation with vaccinations? lmaoo
Unlike the virus, a pregnant woman cannot "transmit" this condition (pregnancy) to anyone else.
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iasuru said:
GreyIllusion said:
Just like a pregnant woman is allowed to abort, people should also be allowed to choose what they put inside their body. But now we have Austria(and Germany soon to follow) basically forcing people to vaccinate or else they receive a fee and possibly jail time. Why should a young, healthy and fit person have to be forced to take in their body something that's still experimental and could have side effects? Not to mention that they expect you to take a jab every six months. I'm not an antivaxxer but I can spot insanity from a mile.

What about the Nuremberg Code? We're just gonna ignore it like this?

Also, watch this topic get deleted because freedom of speech is basically a myth.


A pregnant woman cannot infect other people with pregnancy. You are making a false equivalency.


A pregnant woman has full control over what happens to her body. If vaccines become mandatory, people no longer have full control.
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This is intentional, I am angry with you.
You made a claim about the fda's relationship with tobacco as a means of showing that their word means null and that the vaccine that they claim is approved is experimental, I provided a link proving you wrong, you moved goalposts and continued to make the original claim

That you have the audacity to then claim someone else in the thread is uninformed is ridiculous


I'm not wrong, the FDA approved tobacco, it doesn't mean in which year they approved it. My claim was right.
Could you provide a citation, because what I posted states that the FDA didn't have any authoritiy over tobacco until 2009, which suggests they couldn't have approved it.
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haisetsu said:
How the fuck does pregnancy/abortion have any correlation with vaccinations? lmaoo
Unlike the virus, a pregnant woman cannot "transmit" this condition (pregnancy) to anyone else.


if you are afraid of being infect, vaccinate yourself and never leave home, easy.

I don't have to be vaccinated for your fears.





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Feircei said:
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How the fuck does pregnancy/abortion have any correlation with vaccinations? lmaoo
Unlike the virus, a pregnant woman cannot "transmit" this condition (pregnancy) to anyone else.


if you are afraid of being infect, vaccinate yourself and never leave home, easy.

I don't have to be vaccinated for your fears.
Yes you do, as you can infect others :)
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TrishaCat said:
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I'm not wrong, the FDA approved tobacco, it doesn't mean in which year they approved it. My claim was right.
Could you provide a citation, because what I posted states that the FDA didn't have any authoritiy over tobacco until 2009, which suggests they couldn't have approved it.


There you go https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58897141
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TrishaCat said:
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if you are afraid of being infect, vaccinate yourself and never leave home, easy.

I don't have to be vaccinated for your fears.
Yes you do, as you can infect others :)


I can't infect and kill people who are already immune because they got vaccinated.

100% of the naturally immune people get no vaccine

+

100% of the naturally weak people get the vaccines

=

no one dies, no one has to be snatched from their freedom.





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i mean the vaccine is for your own good and the good of the people around you. but I agree you shouldn't be forced to and go to jail if u disagree

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haisetsu said:
How the fuck does pregnancy/abortion have any correlation with vaccinations? lmaoo
Unlike the virus, a pregnant woman cannot "transmit" this condition (pregnancy) to anyone else.


My point is about basic human rights. The correlation was intended for that.
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Hmm
You are technically correct on this assertion (with regards to the sale of e-cigarettes), but the details of the article suggest that this was done to encourage people to quit smoking with no claims that e-cigarettes themselves are safe the way they did the vaccine, with regards to the original claim that the vaccine is experimental.

I will nevertheless agree that your claim that the FDA approved a form of cigarette is correct on a technicality, but will add that using the FDA as a means of showing that they aren't to be trusted is very strange considering the details of this, which suggest it was done for e-cigarettes as a means of encouraging adults to quit smoking (adults generally moving from cigarettes use e-cigs to try and move away from them).
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Hmm
You are technically correct on this assertion (with regards to the sale of e-cigarettes), but the details of the article suggest that this was done to encourage people to quit smoking with no claims that e-cigarettes themselves are safe the way they did the vaccine, with regards to the original claim that the vaccine is experimental.

I will nevertheless agree that you are correct on a technicality, but that using the FDA as a means of showing that they aren't to be trusted is very strange considering the details of this, which suggest it was done for e-cigarettes as a means of encouraging adults to quit smoking (adults generally moving from cigarettes use e-cigs to try and move away from them).


Do you trust the government though? The present USA and French gov has no problem murdering in cold blood millions of people, and if we go back in time 80 years, almost every country had a blood gov.

Do you still trust them? Even if you are ethically right, believe it if you want, why should we trust the government to force us into doing anything? the less power we give them, the safer we are.

Democracy was supposed to free people, but today it's just another word for dictatorship.





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Do you trust the government though? The present USA and French gov has no problem murdering in cold blood millions of people, and if we go back in time 80 years, almost every country had a blood gov.

Do you still trust them?
I trust their scientists but not their politicians
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TrishaCat said:
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Do you trust the government though? The present USA and French gov has no problem murdering in cold blood millions of people, and if we go back in time 80 years, almost every country had a blood gov.

Do you still trust them?
I trust their scientists but not their politicians


There's more scientists saying that burgers can cure obesity and improve health or that sodas can make you a better athlete than you believe... let's not talk about the scientists saying women are mentally inferior or the scientists saying cigarettes are good because they increase testosterone in men and make them more manly.

Still gonna believe scientists?

Also the FDA puts eggs on the same level as cigarettes when it comes to damage to one's health, but there's thousands of scientists saying eggs can do miraculous things... it takes nothing to pay a scientist to fabricate a document saying eggs can cure cancer lol.

Our ancestors believed the scientists of their time and they killed jews and blacks for no reason, are you so sure today people are just that superior?
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Yeah ofc but I would rather want to live with a few government restrictions than die. And yes everyone compulsorily should be vaccinated to prevent the production of new variants, because the government has to think for the community not the individual.

This is some of the cases where too much freedom is a bad thing.
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Hmm
You are technically correct on this assertion (with regards to the sale of e-cigarettes), but the details of the article suggest that this was done to encourage people to quit smoking with no claims that e-cigarettes themselves are safe the way they did the vaccine, with regards to the original claim that the vaccine is experimental.

I will nevertheless agree that your claim that the FDA approved a form of cigarette is correct on a technicality, but will add that using the FDA as a means of showing that they aren't to be trusted is very strange considering the details of this, which suggest it was done for e-cigarettes as a means of encouraging adults to quit smoking (adults generally moving from cigarettes use e-cigs to try and move away from them).


You're finally not trolling anymore and decided to show signs of maturity? Quite unexpected but thanks for that.

So let me get my points straight. The FDA is not to be trusted because they approve something that can hurt the human body(cigarettes) in order to make money. Do you seriously think that they care about people's health that much? You see how my point can easily be tied to vaccines.
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in order to make money. Do you seriously think that they care about people's health that much? You see how my point can easily be tied to vaccines.
Where are you getting the idea its done for money reasons? The FDA isn't the one selling the product.

But yes, I do believe they care about people's health that much. Its their job after all; how could I so much as trust the food I eat in my day to day life if not for them?
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Yeah ofc but I would rather want to live with a few government restrictions than die. And yes everyone compulsorily should be vaccinated to prevent the production of new variants, because the government has to think for the community not the individual.

This is some of the cases where too much freedom is a bad thing.


'A few government restrictions'? Forcing you to pay fees and possibly go to jail if you don't vaccinate is not a small restriction, it's violation of human rights.
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Yeah ofc but I would rather want to live with a few government restrictions than die. And yes everyone compulsorily should be vaccinated to prevent the production of new variants, because the government has to think for the community not the individual.

This is some of the cases where too much freedom is a bad thing.


'A few government restrictions'? Forcing you to pay fees and possibly go to jail if you don't vaccinate is not a small restriction, it's violation of human rights.


And this is in the time of emergency when we have to stop the pandemic as soon as possible to prevent further deaths. Even if it violates rights, there are still things that need to be done for the greater good.
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in order to make money. Do you seriously think that they care about people's health that much? You see how my point can easily be tied to vaccines.
Where are you getting the idea its done for money reasons? The FDA isn't the one selling the product.

But yes, I do believe they care about people's health that much. Its their job after all; how could I so much as trust the food I eat in my day to day life if not for them?


I seriously cannot believe that you're this innocent.
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GreyIllusion said:
What about the Nuremberg Code? We're just gonna ignore it like this?

Yes.
We don't mandate chemotherapy.
We don't mandate surgery.
We don't mandate antidepressants.
We don't mandate vaccines for the flu.
These treatments are all from the before time, however.
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GreyIllusion said:
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Yeah ofc but I would rather want to live with a few government restrictions than die. And yes everyone compulsorily should be vaccinated to prevent the production of new variants, because the government has to think for the community not the individual.

This is some of the cases where too much freedom is a bad thing.


'A few government restrictions'? Forcing you to pay fees and possibly go to jail if you don't vaccinate is not a small restriction, it's violation of human rights.

such measures were also done with the Spanish influenza.


@Lucifrost actually we did mandate vaccines for the Spanish influenza when it first happened. we don't anymore because it's no longer a pandemic.


also the Nuremberg code is for human experimentation. the vaccines were already fully tested on rodents before given to humans.
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I just find it extremely absurd how some people refuse to get vaccinated for Covid. If people are so scared that they could die from being vaccinated they need to realize they are more likely to die from a car accident then from some complication of a vaccine designed to stop the spread of a deadly virus.

I guess I will never understand how people have become so hyper sensitive about simply getting a shot in their arm. I can only imagine the uproar we would be having today if the government suddenly started putting fluoride in our water today instead of the 1950's.


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I just find it extremely absurd how some people refuse to get vaccinated for Covid. If people are so scared that they could die from being vaccinated they need to realize they are more likely to die from a car accident then from some complication of a vaccine designed to stop the spread of a deadly virus.

I guess I will never understand how people have become so hyper sensitive about simply getting a shot in their arm. I can only imagine the uproar we would be having today if the government suddenly started putting fluoride in our water today instead of the 1950's.


'Simply getting a shot in their arm'. Yeah, except that you have to get a jab every six months after the initial vaccine. And behind you, you have the government threatening you with fees and jail time if you don't comply. I can't believe that I'm the 'crazy' one in this argument. How most of you are agreeing with a bunch of fascists is baffling to me.
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I just find it extremely absurd how some people refuse to get vaccinated for Covid. If people are so scared that they could die from being vaccinated they need to realize they are more likely to die from a car accident then from some complication of a vaccine designed to stop the spread of a deadly virus.

I guess I will never understand how people have become so hyper sensitive about simply getting a shot in their arm. I can only imagine the uproar we would be having today if the government suddenly started putting fluoride in our water today instead of the 1950's.


i find it funny that I who literally has a extreme fear of needles and anything making contact with my skin outside myself still got the vaccine.
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Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
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“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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I do wonder how many pandemics we'll have to live through until people at least fucking learn to wash their goddamn hands.

My guess is that nobody has learned, given that masks and social distancing is all I ever hear about these days.

WutIsDis said:
the government has to think for the community not the individual.

That would be ideal, but most politicians have shown they prefer to shut down the economy and public services while they get paid to sit safely at home.

hazarddex said:
@Lucifrost actually we did mandate vaccines for the Spanish influenza when it first happened. we don't anymore because it's no longer a pandemic.

We didn't mandate vaccines for any other pandemic since then.
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It's up to each individual to decide what they should and shouldn't put inside their own body and not some omnipotent deity like the state.
It's always funny how the same leftist that claim to be against fascism are the first ones to support statist fascist actions against it's own populace.


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Even if they don't make it mandatory, the fact that most places requires it basically makes it a necessity now. The vaccines are pretty much useless with the rise of new variants and the idea of taking vaccine every now and then is obnoxious. I guess, they just want to make the vaccine as some sort of damage control or symbol of hope to give the impression of progress and management despite the obvious dilemma.
Dec 3, 2021 12:57 PM

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Lucifrost said:
Erg_Orgy said:
I do wonder how many pandemics we'll have to live through until people at least fucking learn to wash their goddamn hands.

My guess is that nobody has learned, given that masks and social distancing is all I ever hear about these days.


We're basically dancing around the problem while most people don't even have the basics down, it's kinda frustrating.
Dec 3, 2021 1:07 PM

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I will never get the covid vaccine. No restrictions or mandates will ever force me, if I will need I will go heavy on violence to fight it back.

If government cares so much about your health why is smoking not banned?
Why is alcohol not banned ? Why medications for hepatitis C , HIV are sky high expensive?
Why cancer patients have to pay huge money just to be treated ? Why insulin prices are unaffordable? Why mandatory tests for covid costs hundreds where some nurse spends 20 seconds twirling a cotton stick inside your nose meanwhile complex and hard to make vaccine is being given away for free worldwide in multiple doses? Hey if government cares so much about your health why such easy tests to do are not free or cheap to help you make sure you are not sick with such dEaDly vIruS? All of these could be answered with one and simple word and yeah you guessed it right - money. Government never gave a fuck about you or your health and never will, nothing of ''value'' or good is ever given for free from government.

According to the tv and media that vaccine they push is like a panacea to this virus it helps you get through it without hard symptoms so I don't get why pro vaxx cucks are crying about others not taking the jab, I mean just get your jab and you are safe, that's what the daddy gov says, so take the jab have your peace of mind that you are safe from the cold and shut the fuck up and stop worrying about what others do or don't do.
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Dec 3, 2021 1:50 PM

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GreyIllusion said:
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A pregnant woman cannot infect other people with pregnancy. You are making a false equivalency.


A pregnant woman has full control over what happens to her body. If vaccines become mandatory, people no longer have full control.



Yes, a pregnant woman has full control over what happens to her body because she cannot be infect other people with anything. An unvaccinated person has the potential to not only infect other people with the virus, but also become a vector of virus mutations. You are not being forced. You have a choice if you want to get vaccinated or not. You are basically making the same argument of communists/anti-work people - where they say they are being forced to work. If they do not work, they wont get the money to live, therefore they are being forced. Much akin to what I predict you will respond with, which is "well I am being forced to vaccinated, because if I don't vaccinate then I wont get a job, then I wont be able to live". Are you a communist?
Dec 3, 2021 1:54 PM

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Lucifrost said:
GreyIllusion said:
What about the Nuremberg Code? We're just gonna ignore it like this?

Yes.
We don't mandate chemotherapy.
We don't mandate surgery.
We don't mandate antidepressants.
We don't mandate vaccines for the flu.
These treatments are all from the before time, however.


The majority of what you have listed only physically affect the person being treated.
Dec 3, 2021 1:56 PM

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Opticflash said:
Lucifrost said:

Yes.
We don't mandate chemotherapy.
We don't mandate surgery.
We don't mandate antidepressants.
We don't mandate vaccines for the flu.
These treatments are all from the before time, however.


The majority of what you have listed only physically affect the person being treated.

Oh, so it's exactly like the covid vaccine.
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Dec 3, 2021 1:57 PM

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It is an unfortunate side effect that vaccines significantly reduce the symptoms of the virus so that the anti-vaxxers will still be around and spouting bullshit.

Maybe getting vaxed back in May was a bad I deal and I should have healed off until next year.

Dec 3, 2021 2:11 PM

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Lucifrost said:
Opticflash said:


The majority of what you have listed only physically affect the person being treated.

Oh, so it's exactly like the covid vaccine.


Yeah I agree, getting vaccinated doesn't reduce the transmission rate, mutation rate, and severity of the pandemic, or impact the ICU capacity and resources for people suffering from other ailments like cancer.
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