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| I am pretty sure that "Realta Nua" has been considered the "definite version" or something like that. |
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Grey-Zone said: I am pretty sure that "Realta Nua" has been considered the "definite version" or something like that. I've honestly lost track. |
Shocked said: Nasu did say he wanted to move aways from sexual content hence why Mahoyo Tsuki no Yoru not having such content. back in the early 2000's trying to get a VN out on the shelves without sexual content was probably laughable without having already being firmly establishedGrey-Zone said: I am pretty sure that "Realta Nua" has been considered the "definite version" or something like that. I've honestly lost track. in any case Fate has become quite mainstream i wouldnt be surprised if RN became the definitive ver just so it can solidify this |
Maloghurst said: Shocked said: Nasu did say he wanted to move aways from sexual content hence why Mahoyo Tsuki no Yoru not having such content. back in the early 2000's trying to get a VN out on the shelves without sexual content was probably laughable without having already being firmly establishedI've honestly lost track. in any case Fate has become quite mainstream i wouldnt be surprised if RN became the definitive ver just so it can solidify this But were these "metaphorical" replacements for the H-scenes really neccessary? Couldn't whoever wrote those scenes think of something better? |
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Grey-Zone said: Maloghurst said: Nasu did say he wanted to move aways from sexual content hence why Mahoyo Tsuki no Yoru not having such content. back in the early 2000's trying to get a VN out on the shelves without sexual content was probably laughable without having already being firmly established in any case Fate has become quite mainstream i wouldnt be surprised if RN became the definitive ver just so it can solidify this But were these "metaphorical" replacements for the H-scenes really neccessary? Couldn't whoever wrote those scenes think of something better? I feel they are only bad in HF |
Grey-Zone said: i would think they would have at least tried to do something at least in the anime make an original scene that could have exceeded the others. it really just feels more like since fate had gotten so popular they decided to just make a 4KIDS ver just to capitalise on it's cash cow. Fate already gets shit for "appealing to the lowest common denominator" as far as nasu works go. RN just comes off more like a lazy attempt to further this....Maloghurst said: Nasu did say he wanted to move aways from sexual content hence why Mahoyo Tsuki no Yoru not having such content. back in the early 2000's trying to get a VN out on the shelves without sexual content was probably laughable without having already being firmly established in any case Fate has become quite mainstream i wouldnt be surprised if RN became the definitive ver just so it can solidify this But were these "metaphorical" replacements for the H-scenes really neccessary? Couldn't whoever wrote those scenes think of something better? |
Maloghurst said: Grey-Zone said: i would think they would have at least tried to do something at least in the anime make an original scene that could have exceeded the others. it really just feels more like since fate had gotten so popular they decided to just make a 4KIDS ver just to capitalise on it's cash cow. Fate already gets shit for "appealing to the lowest common denominator" as far as nasu works go. RN just comes off more like a lazy attempt to further this....But were these "metaphorical" replacements for the H-scenes really neccessary? Couldn't whoever wrote those scenes think of something better? That's another interesting problem too. It's an awkwardly written scene to replace an awkwardly written scene, but it makes Fate more accessible to more people. Preferably, yes, the scene should have been "better" to give the work proper respect, but for what we got, is it a worthwhile tradeoff for Fate to become more popular? As far as popularity goes, does this more so benefit Type-Moon than the fans? And lastly, is there a difference between what preexisting fans and new fans want from the Fate series? They're just some thoughts that came to me as I continue sifting through these discussion topics, but despite all the chaos, I'm reminded that the Type-Moon universe is an interesting beast to try to make sense of, both in-universe and as a franchise. |
Shocked said: well. it sort of a necissary evil so to speak. Type-Moon gaining some popularity i'd say is a good thing to at least a degree. the popularity brings possibilities of more content perhaps an official translation of mahoyo. the problem however is the possibilities of lower and lower quality content. this UBW anime's "going through the motions" attitude and decisions to go with WAZZAH but half assing it when it comes ot the substance just to appeal more to the anime crowd is just an example of such. ironically though i think F/Z may actually be slightly worst in some sense.Maloghurst said: i would think they would have at least tried to do something at least in the anime make an original scene that could have exceeded the others. it really just feels more like since fate had gotten so popular they decided to just make a 4KIDS ver just to capitalise on it's cash cow. Fate already gets shit for "appealing to the lowest common denominator" as far as nasu works go. RN just comes off more like a lazy attempt to further this.... That's another interesting problem too. It's an awkwardly written scene to replace an awkwardly written scene, but it makes Fate more accessible to more people. Preferably, yes, the scene should have been "better" to give the work proper respect, but for what we got, is it a worthwhile tradeoff for Fate to become more popular? As far as popularity goes, does this more so benefit Type-Moon than the fans? And lastly, is there a difference between what preexisting fans and new fans want from the Fate series? They're just some thoughts that came to me as I continue sifting through these discussion topics, but despite all the chaos, I'm reminded that the Type-Moon universe is an interesting beast to try to make sense of, both in-universe and as a franchise. |
Shocked said: They're just some thoughts that came to me as I continue sifting through these discussion topics, but despite all the chaos, I'm reminded that the Type-Moon universe is an interesting beast to try to make sense of, both in-universe and as a franchise. Thats putting it very very lightly..:P |
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Maloghurst said: Shocked said: Nasu did say he wanted to move aways from sexual content hence why Mahoyo Tsuki no Yoru not having such content. back in the early 2000's trying to get a VN out on the shelves without sexual content was probably laughable without having already being firmly establishedI've honestly lost track. in any case Fate has become quite mainstream i wouldnt be surprised if RN became the definitive ver just so it can solidify this That statement was made before Mahoyo's sales came in. |
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| That's ok, because they've repeated the statement several times in recent years after Mahoyo came out. |
Insertanamehere said: That's ok, because they've repeated the statement several times in recent years after Mahoyo came out. And once they see Tsuki remake not performing as well as expected they will try to weasel out of it. Even if FGO is non-canon, the fanservicey sexualized nature of it already points that way. Dab1za9 said: Before a short and unvoiced VN sold 100K ? considering how much budget was put into art animation and music of it, yes. That is under-performing and it would have sold more with adult content. |
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| Tsukihime remake not performing well will have everything to do with it not being Fate/ and nothing to do with the lack of porn in it, I don't see why you want badly written eroge in the VN's anyway. Also, F/GO is canon. |
Insertanamehere said: Tsukihime remake not performing well will have everything to do with it not being Fate/ and nothing to do with the lack of porn in it, I don't see why you want badly written eroge in the VN's anyway. Also, F/GO is canon. Thats the conclusion we could draw, not what the current TM will believe. "We need more seiba and more panty shots!" Dab1za9 said: lol 10k is considered successful for VN, Fate sold 140K in its first year and the sales increased when it it was ported for PS2(all age version) and when FSN Deen came while Mahoyo doesn't even have a manga adaptation to advertise it. Mahoyo has production values more akin to an anime than a simple VN. |
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Dab1za9 said: CookingPriest said: Mahoyo has production values more akin to an anime than a simple VN. You are still missing my point sigh CP misses everyone's point. It's not your fault. |
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Insertanamehere said: Tsukihime remake not performing well will have everything to do with it not being Fate/ and nothing to do with the lack of porn in it, I don't see why you want badly written eroge in the VN's anyway. Also, F/GO is canon. you guys talking about Tsuki as if it will underpeform, pls The first TM VN, with updated graphics and superior story is bound to attract money m8s |
MightyM16 said: tsuki doesnt have the mass appeal that fate does. if we ever get a tsuki anime ppl will just bitch that it's twilight the anime and that it's not derk enough because teenagers or maybe ppl will love it just because far side of the moon is derk n shitInsertanamehere said: Tsukihime remake not performing well will have everything to do with it not being Fate/ and nothing to do with the lack of porn in it, I don't see why you want badly written eroge in the VN's anyway. Also, F/GO is canon. you guys talking about Tsuki as if it will underpeform, pls The first TM VN, with updated graphics and superior story is bound to attract money m8s |
Maloghurst said: MightyM16 said: tsuki doesnt have the mass appeal that fate does. if we ever get a tsuki anime ppl will just bitch that it's twilight the anime and that it's not derk enough because teenagers or maybe ppl will love it just because far side of the moon is derk n shityou guys talking about Tsuki as if it will underpeform, pls The first TM VN, with updated graphics and superior story is bound to attract money m8s Believe me, people will love the sacchin route, it will be dark and edgy to appease Zero secondaries and will also have pretentious deep psychologic character issues to appease hardcore type moonies It's a win-win situation they just need to make the right choice |
| How much does Japan actually care about pretentious, dark, and edgy emo issues It's not like the opinion of a few people who get the anime for free are going to have any influence on what TM does or doesn't do |
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LittleGao said: you dont understand most of TM is ghey and childish because teenagers and Fate/zero is like a legendary work of shakespearian art. because it doesnt have gay teenagers and their harem romance adventures. F/Z is like TM...only for adults insteadHow much does Japan actually care about pretentious, dark, and edgy emo issues It's not like the opinion of a few people who get the anime for free are going to have any influence on what TM does or doesn't do MightyM16 said: Maloghurst said: tsuki doesnt have the mass appeal that fate does. if we ever get a tsuki anime ppl will just bitch that it's twilight the anime and that it's not derk enough because teenagers or maybe ppl will love it just because far side of the moon is derk n shit Believe me, people will love the sacchin route, it will be dark and edgy to appease Zero secondaries and will also have pretentious deep psychologic character issues to appease hardcore type moonies It's a win-win situation they just need to make the right choice inb4 tsukihime is twilight the anime and tohno shiki is bella clone. Ciel = jacob Arc = edward. inb4 shiki gets pregant and has to get an emergency C-section via Arcueid's teeth there is a good chance that could go in the other direction and everyone shits on it for being edgy like they did with chaos dragon |
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MightyM16 said: the sacchin route nice meme |
mira-nyan said: Dab1za9 said: You are still missing my point sigh CP misses everyone's point. It's not your fault. At least I have a point unlike someone else whose posts need to be shepherded to filter out seiba fanwank. Maloghurst said: inb4 tsukihime is twilight the anime and tohno shiki is bella clone. Ciel = jacob Arc = edward. inb4 shiki gets pregant and has to get an emergency C-section via Arcueid's teeth there is a good chance that could go in the other direction and everyone shits on it for being edgy like they did with chaos dragon Why not have both and just call it edgy shonen like ubw. |
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flameindustry said: the scene that appears during the mana transfer where Rin watches Shirou when they were young, is it an anime-original because idon't remember such a thing like this i do recall Rin mentions it during the HF path only Foreshadowing for HF~ |
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flameindustry said: the scene that appears during the mana transfer where Rin watches Shirou when they were young, is it an anime-original because idon't remember such a thing like this i do recall Rin mentions it during the HF path only It should have been in prologue, its one of reasons why Rin saved him, but since this adaptation is a mess it is not, because we need to create more plot armor asspulls |
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CookingPriest said: this adaptation is a mess oh my alaya and ado edem, are you still not over this? |
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| This episode was just one big tease 😂 That sideboob though  |
Ando- said: This episode was just one big tease 😂 That sideboob though Tasty Rin is tasty :3 |
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| Haha getting Rin to take her clothes off, Shiro you dog!! |
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| Actually, apart from that "take off your top" Crest transfer is quite understandable, as well as the way they did it. We have already seen how Shirou's magic circuits look, now we have seen how Rin's look like. I do remember somewhat that dolphins have meaning in Tohsaka family, I forgot what. Well, Fate/Zero is next on the list so I will just check there. |
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Dimitrije1606 said: Actually, apart from that "take off your top" Crest transfer is quite understandable, as well as the way they did it. We have already seen how Shirou's magic circuits look, now we have seen how Rin's look like. I do remember somewhat that dolphins have meaning in Tohsaka family, I forgot what. Well, Fate/Zero is next on the list so I will just check there. All circuits look similar. Dolphins mean absolutely nothing. |
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| the episode was lovely, tsundere Rin is so cute |
| The high jump IS in the VN. But in Heaven's Feel not UBW. |
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| And....I'm disappointed. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
leNerd said: So i guess they fucked in the VN and this was the way they decided to portry it in the family friendly anime adaption? Dont know how i feel about that. Actually i do, another reason to read the VN There are many good reasons to start the VN, but surely not for the H-scenes. |
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| Decent, Its one of those episodes you forget after one day lol Though I just jinxed myself.. |
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| The next episode, is the begining of the ends!!! |
| I was wondering if Assassin is still there since they mentioned the temple. And the preview kinda gave it away ^^ |
| An OK episode. Nothing much happened. Rin was pretty cute in this episode. |
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| I already knew this was going to be just a preparation episode. Rin is so tsundere!! I didn't like her at the beginning, but she grew on me later on. I still prefer Saber as always :) I thought the contact she was embarrassed about is intercourse XD But it seems she was already eyeing him in the past. I didn't realize the ED scenes were actual circuits from Shirou's body. Can't wait for the next episode! |
| That brief conversation in the courtyard between Saber and Shirou was nice, but seemed an awful lot like a goodbye :( Death flags for Saber going up right there. Wish there was some way for all three of them to live, but I know that Saber will either die or disappear once the grail is gone. Going to be a tear jerker :/ On the bright side, the mana transfer scene was nice. Rin x Shirou is cute |
| Hohoho, the war is starting... I wanted Saber to kill Gilgamesh, but I guess it's going to be Shirou. What a plot armor he has... |
| Please just kiss already! |
kikiabdull said: they fucked in the porn gaemPlease just kiss already! |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
| Basically a Shirou x Rin flirting episode lol |
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