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Oct 23, 2013 4:16 AM

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Not being to rude about it, I think i got the secret of the world spoiled to myself aswell, But I was like "meh, let me just do the VN" But you guys are talking about it in the ep3 discussion, the thread w/o any spoilers to whats going to happen, Anime-viewers come in here and check all these spoilers and go.. "the fawk did I just read" lol.

edit: i changed my wording in the last thing i said. Did sound abit rude now, Sorry o:
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Well, you can use the magical "Report button". New mods are very sensitive so I couldn't care less on how many posts could they remove here. I'm too lazy to read the posts so I dunno what you guys are you talking about and bother to use the report button if really necessary.


Oct 23, 2013 4:49 AM

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They really kicked the animation quality up a few notches. This season is looking much better than the last.
Oct 23, 2013 6:40 AM

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That sensation of watching on wide-eyed as the very essence of your being gets warped into a slightly twisted world of sadness in such a way that leaves you yearning for more...

That sensation of watching an anime adaptation of a Key visual novel...
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Oct 23, 2013 7:42 AM

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Last season was a chore to watch but this year, it's been really mysterious ... enjoyable so far


Oct 23, 2013 10:35 AM

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BakaGekai said:
Last season was a chore to watch but this year, it's been really mysterious ... enjoyable so far

Always good to hear that, I'm glad this season is turning out this well so far.
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Oct 23, 2013 8:49 PM
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Does this mean.. No more Kurugaya?!

Excuse me while I go cry in a corner.
Oct 23, 2013 8:54 PM

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Venny503 said:
Does this mean.. No more Kurugaya?!

Excuse me while I go cry in a corner.
Lol hav faith in the magnificent kuru
Oct 23, 2013 9:22 PM

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Is it just me... Or did this have the same problem of season 1... of rushing?
I mean.. I did not feel attached at all... Im just like..
"Oh, confession...? ish?"
"Recurring world"
"Disappear"

...Or am I just a heartless bastard?

I did read the VN, but I'm taking the anime in a different aspect.
Maybe my expectations are just too damn high and need to lower it a lot.
Oct 23, 2013 9:41 PM

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Ourka said:
Is it just me... Or did this have the same problem of season 1... of rushing?
I mean.. I did not feel attached at all... Im just like..
"Oh, confession...? ish?"
"Recurring world"
"Disappear"

...Or am I just a heartless bastard?

I did read the VN, but I'm taking the anime in a different aspect.
Maybe my expectations are just too damn high and need to lower it a lot.


Its probably the fact that you already know the secret of the world and knowing that


Knowing the whole story behind " The secret of the world " would probably ruin the story for you slightly since you already experienced it before... Remember the first episode with the flash backs? First thing you probably said was ohh shit rin 2..

On the other hand imagine a anime only fan who is enjoying it and killing themselves over the secret of the world...

I cant wait for rin2 when
planetarianOct 23, 2013 9:46 PM
Oct 23, 2013 10:53 PM

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I think the purpose of Kurugaya's route in the anime and the drama behind it was just toned down overall.
It didn't really try to force tears and make everyone cry for an extended amount of time. It gave her a reasonable story and explanation for everything, and it wasn't overly tragic compared to the first routes.
I thought that Kurugaya accepting her fate and Riki's helplessness to be able to do anything at the time was sufficient, and the time spent on the bros, the Secret, and the extra hints of Rin and her development will boost the narrative overall and heighten the impact of Refrain.

Anyway, I'm here to see how JC Staff handles the VN adaptation. I want to see how they animate my favorite routes, and how others react to them. I'm not coming in expecting them to cater to me, personally, and have every bit of plot development. I want to loosely watch it with my VN nostalgia combined with some anime critique, and say "If I was an anime watcher, would I find this interesting?"
And overall, I feel like JC Staff is making this season and the Secret of the World more focused than the VN did.
They're definitely handling Rin (and Komari) much better than in the VN, and it's going to work out well come episode 12.

The fact that there is enthusiastic interest in the Secret, rather than people just saying "WHAT IS GOING ON?!" in reviews and posts means that JC Staff is obviously doing something right.

Seriously, though. Kurugaya's route ending didn't have to make you break down in tears. It can easily be considered as a prologue to Refrain and what's to come, and it's used to aid the upcoming story, bring out Riki and Rin's romantic emotions, have more screentime for the bros, and get people interested in the Secret of the World. If it made you emotional, that's just a bonus, because few people even teared up over the VN route.
Oct 24, 2013 2:16 AM

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i was dreaming that LB series is animated by KyoAni :(

but well, J.C staff is doing improvement over the prequel

can't wait for the next episode
Oct 24, 2013 2:21 AM

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i was dreaming that LB series is animated by KyoAni :(

but well, J.C staff is doing improvement over the prequel

can't wait for the next episode


KyoAni is WAY to overrated in there anime's. Just look at there new anime Kyoukai No Kanata, its impressive, but its being rushed atm, and some scene's are just to confusing.
Oct 24, 2013 6:27 AM

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As someone who already played the VN, I really got emotional in the last part of episode 3...Of course, that's because I already know what is to come...But if I haven't played the VN yet, I'll only get confused and probably I won't even cry in that part...If JC Staff does the BEST part right, I'm hoping that'll be the time when my tears won't stop falling...and I'm so excited for that. :)
Oct 24, 2013 1:59 PM

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The ending wasn't entirely clear to me but i guess this arc was better then the entire first season, so far things are looking good.
Rin next it seems and i wonder what that will bring, Rin seemed sad last episode so i guess this new arc should be interesting.
Oct 24, 2013 7:35 PM

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The ending wasn't entirely clear to me but i guess this arc was better then the entire first season, so far things are looking good.
Rin next it seems and i wonder what that will bring, Rin seemed sad last episode so i guess this new arc should be interesting.


pretty normal that rin was a bit sad, she probably love already riko, so when she seen that riko spoken about kuragaya, she was a bit sad, anyway, next arc will be about rin and riki,

Oct 24, 2013 8:57 PM

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So far, these 3 episodes have been good. I haven't played the VN but I am what I call, "half spoiled", what I mean is i get the sort of general idea of what happens, but I have no idea what the details are.

Here's what I know (nothing much):


I hope Refrain will get better than "good", and when I say its good so far, I mean in comparison to all anime. Now if I compare it to Clannad, this is mediocre.

I hope for the best.
Oct 24, 2013 9:16 PM

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HandSonicvI said:
So far, these 3 episodes have been good. I haven't played the VN but I am what I call, "half spoiled", what I mean is i get the sort of general idea of what happens, but I have no idea what the details are.

Here's what I know (nothing much):


I hope Refrain will get better than "good", and when I say its good so far, I mean in comparison to all anime. Now if I compare it to Clannad, this is mediocre.

I hope for the best.

Well like I said before in another thread, there is a big difference in knowing compared to actually experiencing it. ~
Oct 24, 2013 9:51 PM

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HandSonicvI said:

I hope Refrain will get better than "good", and when I say its good so far, I mean in comparison to all anime. Now if I compare it to Clannad, this is mediocre.


Comparing what? Kurugaya's route to which parts of Clannad?
Clannad is like 40something episodes with several arcs, and Maeda's beloved After Story segment, and Kurugaya's route is 1 arc of about 3 episodes.
I can't tell if you're comparing Kurugaya's arc to the flowerfield scene from Clannad After Story, or something, or if you're comparing it to something like Fuko and Kotomi's routes.

Anyway, LB is a climactic story, and the main part hasn't begun.
I'm honestly still surprised this anime even has over an 8.0 considering how weak this part of the story is compared to Rin and Refrain.
That's an accomplishment in itself right there.
If Refrain's buildup and dramatic moments are well executed, people are going to be mindfuckingly blindsided by how great it gets. (In my humble opinion)

I guess some people might be saying "When's it supposed to get really good?" since there's only 10 episodes left. But people will soon realize how much has already built up, come Refrain.

Anyway, the "half-spoiled" situation you're in will keep you on your feet in the upcoming episodes.
I just hope JC Staff has been saving their talent for the next 10 episodes :3
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Oct 24, 2013 10:56 PM

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This season is already so much better than the first.

I'm actually kind of surprised at how much I enjoyed Kurugaya and her route. I had played through a little bit of the common route long before the anime was even announced and Kurugaya was my next to last favorite girl then. But after watching the first season and her route, she's my 3rd favorite girl. I love her to death! And I liked her route because it hinted the most at the secret of the world.

The tears started rolling as soon as Song for Friends began playing. I can never listen to that song and not cry. The last part of the episode was very emotional. Although, I think part of what made it so emotional for me was knowing what is to come. Seeing Kyousuke in the rain was also really nice.

Well, I look forward to the next episode! Time to get to see more of my favorite girl~
Oct 24, 2013 11:10 PM

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This season is already so much better than the first.

I'm actually kind of surprised at how much I enjoyed Kurugaya and her route. I had played through a little bit of the common route long before the anime was even announced and Kurugaya was my next to last favorite girl then. But after watching the first season and her route, she's my 3rd favorite girl. I love her to death! And I liked her route because it hinted the most at the secret of the world.

The tears started rolling as soon as Song for Friends began playing. I can never listen to that song and not cry. The last part of the episode was very emotional. Although, I think part of what made it so emotional for me was knowing what is to come. Seeing Kyousuke in the rain was also really nice.

Well, I look forward to the next episode! Time to get to see more of my favorite girl~


Dat Kyousuke in the rain.
http://i.imgur.com/XWHpZVx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vIdiLUs.jpg
Oct 25, 2013 1:26 AM

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Vladz0r said:
Soliia said:
This season is already so much better than the first.

I'm actually kind of surprised at how much I enjoyed Kurugaya and her route. I had played through a little bit of the common route long before the anime was even announced and Kurugaya was my next to last favorite girl then. But after watching the first season and her route, she's my 3rd favorite girl. I love her to death! And I liked her route because it hinted the most at the secret of the world.

The tears started rolling as soon as Song for Friends began playing. I can never listen to that song and not cry. The last part of the episode was very emotional. Although, I think part of what made it so emotional for me was knowing what is to come. Seeing Kyousuke in the rain was also really nice.

Well, I look forward to the next episode! Time to get to see more of my favorite girl~


Dat Kyousuke in the rain.
http://i.imgur.com/XWHpZVx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vIdiLUs.jpg

Kyousuke lurking around as usual I see XD
Oct 25, 2013 1:39 AM

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As someone who has not read the VN, I have no fucking idea what the hell is going on in this anime.
Oct 25, 2013 1:44 AM

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As someone who has not read the VN, I have no fucking idea what the hell is going on in this anime.


Get a grip mutha— http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMeWQXE38dA
Oct 25, 2013 2:14 AM

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Vladz0r said:

I guess some people might be saying "When's it supposed to get really good?" since there's only 10 episodes left. But people will soon realize how much has already built up, come Refrain.

^This.

Little Busters, unlike Clannad, is not linear (yeah, I know there's the Illusory World, but still).

In Clannad, what you see is what you get. Happy (kinda?) Common Route, tear-inducing Afterstory. Watch common route again, and is it still happy? Of course.

But Little Busters? Happy Common Route, tear-inducing Refrain. Watch/Read Common Route again, and is it still happy? Nope, not a bit.

LB Refrain is much, much more connected to the Common Route than Clannad AS ever was to its School Days.
Oct 25, 2013 10:12 AM

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I think I'm also dreaming while watching this.

Why is Kurugaya sounds like saying good bye. Let's see on the next episode.
Oct 25, 2013 11:25 AM

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Wasn't expecting this season to have improved so much compared to the prequel. Glad that I haven't drop this series yet.

Curious to know what lies beyond the fated time. (I've never read LN)
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Oct 25, 2013 1:43 PM

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-Atomsk- said:
As someone who has not read the VN, I have no fucking idea what the hell is going on in this anime.


It's just as confusing in the VN as well during Kurugaya's route its supposed to be that way.
Oct 26, 2013 6:36 AM

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WHY THE FUCK THEY TAKE HER AWAY THO

FUCKIN WHY. THIS WAS THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO THIS SHOW
Oct 26, 2013 12:04 PM

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What happened to Kurugaya????????
Oct 28, 2013 11:19 AM

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What is the song that kurugaya is always playing on the piano? I don't think I've heard it in the vn.
Oct 28, 2013 12:03 PM

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Zonda said:
What is the song that kurugaya is always playing on the piano? I don't think I've heard it in the vn.


I believe that's the song that Kurugaya usually played in VN...


Oct 28, 2013 12:22 PM

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Zonda said:
What is the song that kurugaya is always playing on the piano? I don't think I've heard it in the vn.


I believe that's the song that Kurugaya usually played in VN...


Yep, it's the same that in the VN.
Here's a link with the song> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MY8OC0O4XI
Oct 28, 2013 1:27 PM

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I TAKE IT BAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!
I said I would only regret losing one of the original little busters, but I take it back! take it back take it back takeit back takeitbacktakeitbacktakeitbacckkkkkkkkkmk!!!!!

Wow, shit just hit the fan, and it is episode 3? They certainly are not waiting around to get things going are they?
I don't know where things are going exactly, but I am getting that sinking feeling that I will be QQ much more in the coming weeks.


On the upside, next episode "Riki and Rin," So I have hope I will get to see some positive before Key crushes my soul into a million pieces! ^_^
Oct 28, 2013 1:44 PM

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I TAKE IT BAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!
I said I would only regret losing one of the original little busters, but I take it back! take it back take it back takeit back takeitbacktakeitbacktakeitbacckkkkkkkkkmk!!!!!

Wow, shit just hit the fan, and it is episode 3? They certainly are not waiting around to get things going are they?
I don't know where things are going exactly, but I am getting that sinking feeling that I will be QQ much more in the coming weeks.


On the upside, next episode "Riki and Rin," So I have hope I will get to see some positive before Key crushes my soul into a million pieces! ^_^


I can't stop smiling at your comments. Please keep them coming throughout the rest of the season :)
Oct 28, 2013 8:05 PM

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Tasuku- said:
Tennouji_ said:
Zonda said:
What is the song that kurugaya is always playing on the piano? I don't think I've heard it in the vn.


I believe that's the song that Kurugaya usually played in VN...


Yep, it's the same that in the VN.
Here's a link with the song> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MY8OC0O4XI


thanks, when looking for it I skipped that one half through because I didnt listen to the end. Though now that I think about it, its been a wile since I read kurugaya's route, can't remember hearing that song.
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Oct 29, 2013 12:01 AM

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Zonda said:

thanks, when looking for it I skipped that one half through because I didnt listen to the end. Though now that I think about it, its been a wile since I read kurugaya's route, can't remember hearing that song.


It's a slight remix in the anime, where it has two pianos seemingly playing at once. It's not the exact version from the VN.
Ah man, going through the Kurugaya episodes, Little Busters felt like a completely different anime at times.
Where the hell did the quality go for episode 4? It better be back for Refrain. :3
Oct 29, 2013 11:53 AM

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Vladz0r said:

It's a slight remix in the anime, where it has two pianos seemingly playing at once. It's not the exact version from the VN.

listening from 1:42 on... oooooo the chills XD
Oct 30, 2013 2:43 PM

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I never thought Rin was that cute, but this episode made her soooo cute :3.
Also i really miss Kurugaya, wtf... i wouldn't forget about her i know that >.>
Nov 7, 2013 11:39 PM

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Oh god

First time this show has got me close to tears.

Used to detest these characters but I've grown to love them all so I just know the rest of this season will be painful
Nov 8, 2013 12:52 AM

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Did she disappear? Like those dwarf on the picture book?
Nov 14, 2013 7:00 AM

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noooooooooooo :(( She was one of my favorite in this show... Damn :(
another female character again .. this is too much! Hokuto from Tokyo Ravens, Marie from Kakumeiki and now , her ? >_________<
Nov 22, 2013 2:14 PM

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WHY THE FUCK THEY TAKE HER AWAY THO

FUCKIN WHY. THIS WAS THE BEST THING THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED TO THIS SHOW

I agree
hope she returns soon cause everyone else sucks so far
I don't think it's that difficult to understand the anime, though I don't really like where this is heading
Dec 2, 2013 8:06 AM

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No no no no! Don't take Kurugaya from me! D,: She's my favorite! ><
I really hope she won't be gone forever (sooner or later) :(
Dec 20, 2013 7:33 AM

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Ha, taking a look back at this episode now, everything Kurugaya said makes sense, how it's her fault he got stuck in that loop, to waking up from the dream and protecting Rin. Ah, it makes me more sad seeing this episode now that I know the truth about what happened. :(

So heartbreaking. She finally got to live the kind of life she wanted to via that dream, experiencing all the emotions she lacked when younger, and also fell in love knowing that she will disappear.
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Dec 21, 2013 8:18 AM
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o_O what happens to kurugaya ._. I dont understand it 100% .After the first 3 episodes Kurugiya is my favourite girl now!
Jan 6, 2014 6:14 AM

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Eh.. what just happened?
Suddenly it's only for Riki & Rin?
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Jan 9, 2014 11:24 PM

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I don't know what is really going on with Kurugaya but don't go ... uhh time to watch epi 4 to find out xD
Feb 14, 2014 2:34 PM

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First time i'm saying this in any emotional scene(because i'm such a cry baby i cried even on little sad scenes) . I didn't feel a thing in this episode.
Apr 4, 2014 5:17 PM

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...I don't buy it. Nothing prompted this. There's no motivation. No reason.

Oh boy, I keep hearing great things about Refrain but these first three episodes really aren't living up to them.
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