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Blackkatsu001 said: It’s because it was rushed. Aot still looks good, but Jjk was actually given the time it needed to thrive. S4 was rushed out to please your impatience. This is your fault.Have you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :(  |
FMmatron said: Given that they have to dish out one episode per week, there is no other choice but to stretch the shit out of it. I mean, I am all up for making One Piece seasonal but let's get real here, it is most likely not going to happen.cchigu said: Dude, OP's treatment by Toei is not even bad considering how bad other long-running shows look, tsk tsk Black Clover. And I bet you, if OP were to be seasonal, it would look way better since you know how big One Piece actually is and how much revenue it rakes in. Considering the nature of One Piece it really isn't, recently it has been even great, yet if you look at the last decade, then it left a lot to be desired. I'm understanding regarding the production, but it doesn't make it any more enjoyable to watch. I'm not necessarily unsatisfied with the animation (key moments have nice sakuga) or character designs. The problem for me are stretched episodes with poor storyboarding. You have countless episodes that recycle frames over and over again, a character taking forever for an attack or repeatedly yelling etc. It's just exhausting to watch. When I look at adaptations such as AoT then I can't help but mire hard. |
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cchigu said: FMmatron said: Given that they have to dish out one episode per week, there is no other choice but to stretch the shit out of it. I mean, I am all up for making One Piece seasonal but let's get real here, it is most likely not going to happen.Considering the nature of One Piece it really isn't, recently it has been even great, yet if you look at the last decade, then it left a lot to be desired. I'm understanding regarding the production, but it doesn't make it any more enjoyable to watch. I'm not necessarily unsatisfied with the animation (key moments have nice sakuga) or character designs. The problem for me are stretched episodes with poor storyboarding. You have countless episodes that recycle frames over and over again, a character taking forever for an attack or repeatedly yelling etc. It's just exhausting to watch. When I look at adaptations such as AoT then I can't help but mire hard. Of course it won't and I made my peace with it years ago. That wasn't really my point. Just wanted to say that the circumstances for AoT are still favorable by comparison and that there are series that struggle harder xD |
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RoyalGodyssey said: ReegrezSNK said: I don’t understand how people like you actually exist. You are so delusional and full of yourself it’s impressive.We are more lucky cuz we like better anime, god blessed us with higher intelligence. Or it was joke you are too dumb to understand... It can be the second option. In these kind of trash threads only way to answer is trolling. |
| Yeah, I do think JJK fans are lucky. Back when the first few episodes of AOT season 4 aired and I felt utterly disappointed (ep 2, I’m looking at you), I watched several of the first episodes of JJK to see what the hype was about. I admit I didn’t care much about JJK’s story and characters, it looked like a typical shounen for me (maybe gets better later, idk) and I’m not particularly into this kind of stuff. But man, the animation quality was obviously head and shoulders above what we are currently getting in AOT season 4. I couldn’t but help imagining what if AOT got the same treatment as JJK, and this made me feel horribly jealous. Ok, AOT does have a more interesting plot, but how on earth does this mean that it does not have to be beautifully animated? To me it’s quite the reverse. It’s a masterpiece and it should be treated as such. Without the afterglow of the previous anime seasons, that had both the story AND the animation, I think we would be talking of a Berserk 2016 reincarnation now. What has drawn crowds into AOT fandom during the first season, was definitely the good look of the show, because back there was no telling yet, for anime onlies especially, about how great the plot was going to be. I mean, if animation quality does not matter, why bother with it, when you can have the plot from reading the manga? Maybe JJK does not reach the perfection of Arifumi Imai’s best scenes (except for the JJK’s opening which is really smooth), but it’s glaringly obvious that it’s more carefully and consistently made compared to AOT season 4. It’s really painful for me to see the best parts of the AOT manga suffer from bad animation. I know that MAPPA’s crew are working in a terrible timeframe, but this doesn’t change the fact that the final product is disappointing. That being said, after reflecting on the latest manga chapters, I cannot wholeheartedly blame the publisher or whoever made the decision to release the final season now at whatever cost. At the time when manga is going to go out with a bang (yeah, I do believe so), to have no anime airing would be like killing a hen that lays gold eggs. So I can understand that from business point of view. For people who are going to repeat that AOT season 4 animation is as good as JJK’s, I suggest you have a look at these two articles at the Sakuga blog: Sakugabooru Animation Awards 2020 https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2020/12/31/sakugabooru-animation-awards-2020/ (count the number of JJK and AOT mentions) Winter 2021 Anime Overview And The State Of The Anime Industry https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2021/01/24/winter-2021-anime-overview/ I think they make things quite clear. Btw, there are quite a few articles on AOT’s previous seasons as well, there were some local catastrophes production-wise too (season 2 final episodes), so that is not to say that WIT’s output was always ideal too. |
| Imo the story in Aot is soo good that I can ignore the animation. hententhusiast52 said: what even is that logic? He meant that the fans are praising wayy too much and the production committee will give them even more tough schedule(meaning more anime) if they're not getting any criticism.We should be concerned for the animators health as well along with praising Aot staff. |
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Scordolo said: Imo the story in Aot is soo good that I can ignore the animation. hententhusiast52 said: what even is that logic? He meant that the fans are praising wayy too much and the production committee will give them even more tough schedule(meaning more anime) if they're not getting any hate.We should be concerned for the animators health as well along with praising Aot staff. You mean criticism rather than hate. |
Blackkatsu001 said: Yet it sits on a 8.53 while AOT is at a godlike 9.17, plus we surpassed it with more followers and it came out 2 months before AOT. Good animation doesn't mean shitHave you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :( |
| probably because Jujutsu kaisen is season 1 and Aot is season 4. New promising title are always favored over ongoing ones for earning a good profits |
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|shane_nichols said: Blackkatsu001 said: Yet it sits on a 8.53 while AOT is at a godlike 9.17, plus we surpassed it with more followers and it came out 2 months before AOT. Good animation doesn't mean shitHave you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :( Image trying to flexx with score and members lmao |
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Bhaskar_Singh said: Huh? No. This is a complete bias. As a person who used to dislike One Piece during childhood, only in recent years, I have come to love One Piece this much. imbAF said: Nah man, One piece anime is a basic 7. The techniques they invent to waste time is just admirable. In an episode we have the opening, a recap of the preview episode, then we have people staring at each other for like 5 min, we see some buckets in a corner with which a cat plays, then we proceed to flashbacks where we see waves at the beach for like 2 solid minutes, then they scream, start to fight and end of the episode. Manga is good, but anime is just a big solid 7, but there are occasions or arcs where it gets better. One Piece anime is just an over extended rubber band, that keeps getting extended for no reason. Hard agree. 700 epi in there is absolutely nothing in OP that could benifit from high quality production. Its popular because of the imotional attachment of people towards the characters and that people grew up with it. MAPPAEN said: Yes, it is.Im around ep 60-61, is it worth the time to watch it till the Last episode aired or no? Because I'm not 100% sure to read the manga. |
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MappaPrefersJJK said: Yeah I am afraid of how they will adapt chainsaw but if it's near aot S4 level of animation I am fine with that.Blackkatsu001 said: Don't get cocky, Chainsaw man is coming and mappa soon gonna prioritise it over jujutsu. Who knows ? But chainsaw man will be way more harder to animate, so maybe there will be a lot of cgi and no matter if it's good or bad cgi, people will shit on it. |
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aiyaiyai said: Considering the AoT bad writing it really wouldn't matter much. did you really just call AOT a badly written series? |
aiyaiyai said: I'm sorry, I forgot not everyone can understand English. How careless of me. I would love to know how AOT is badly written. Unless your standard for writing is extremely extremely high such that 99% of anime would be considered badly written for you. |
aiyaiyai said: Zprotu said: Close enough but it's 97%.I would love to know how AOT is badly written. Unless your standard for writing is extremely extremely high such that 99% of anime would be considered badly written for you. Lol Anyway I'm genuinely curious why you would think AOT is badly written when most other people think otherwise. |
Zprotu said: aiyaiyai said: I'm sorry, I forgot not everyone can understand English. How careless of me. I would love to know how AOT is badly written. Unless your standard for writing is extremely extremely high such that 99% of anime would be considered badly written for you. Pretty sure he's baiting. |
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Zprotu said: aiyaiyai said: Close enough but it's 97%. Lol Anyway I'm genuinely curious why you would think AOT is badly written when most other people think otherwise. Let it go, just let it go. |
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kaiki_fan_boy said: MappaPrefersJJK said: Yeah I am afraid of how they will adapt chainsaw but if it's near aot S4 level of animation I am fine with that.Who knows ? But chainsaw man will be way more harder to animate, so maybe there will be a lot of cgi and no matter if it's good or bad cgi, people will shit on it. Imo it will be like Dorohedoro. |
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MappaPrefersJJK said: that would be cool, dorohedoro had such great cgikaiki_fan_boy said: Yeah I am afraid of how they will adapt chainsaw but if it's near aot S4 level of animation I am fine with that. Imo it will be like Dorohedoro. |
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Minerrr said: MappaPrefersJJK said: Hahaha let's gooo lets see you laughing in the future when aot is known as a classic and Jujutsu Kaisen is forgotten about lmao JJK 'AOTY' award: 1 AOT 'AOTY' award: 0 ouch Bruh, and also with the writing of the last arc, AOT will be known as the biggest trainwreck |
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| Attack on titan broke millions on records? I think someone confused AOT with KNY lmao |
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| Ofc they're lucky lol I'm waiting for JJK to end so that I can binge it . |
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Omertaskaya said: Jeez. Do people really take Crunchyroll Awards seriously ? Yeah, okay then let's see; Jujutsu Kaisen: 1 AOTY award Attack on Titan: Broke millions of other records which is a lot more notable than Crunchyroll. Sure... its actually not really breaking records it will get outsold by JJK in the manga department if it keeps its sales up,its sales didn't receive major boosts. and blu-ray preorders are not even high up and will most likely worse then S3. meanwhile JJK is very dominant in revenue department rating in mal = doesn't mean breaking records. but also crunchyroll awards doesn't mean jackshit,but its slightly higher quality of jackshit compared to ratings lol |
| I'd take a good story over good animation, which AOT will definitely deliver. |
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| Huh? I don't see anything wrong with AoT animation wise, can't say about source loyalty since I don't read manga. Nevertheless I enjoy both AoT and JJK anyway and no complaints about them so far except the toxic fans the flies buzzing around in MAL |
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spixiefire_008 said: and what are you doing? Giving constructive criticism? No, just complaint. I agree the seasons quality isn't as good as the first three. But these threads are just complaining and giving no criticism at all. Also "BrUh tHis LoOKs lIkE DoGshIt" isn't a criticism. Surprising. here's constructive criticism by a professional https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/l05nbr/nevermind_the_cgi_heres_my_main_technical_gripe/ |
MappaPrefersJJK said: Attack on titan broke millions on records? I think someone confused AOT with KNY lmao Pff, who needs money when you can have Reddit karma and forum posts. |
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spixiefire_008 said: Sad7727 said: that's constructive criticism. This thread isn't.here's constructive criticism by a professional https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/l05nbr/nevermind_the_cgi_heres_my_main_technical_gripe/ if that thread was copy pasted here it would be deleted by mods lol |
Sad7727 said: I've seen that type of criticism back in December. It's a fair enough point, but I personally don't agree with it.spixiefire_008 said: and what are you doing? Giving constructive criticism? No, just complaint. I agree the seasons quality isn't as good as the first three. But these threads are just complaining and giving no criticism at all. Also "BrUh tHis LoOKs lIkE DoGshIt" isn't a criticism. Surprising. here's constructive criticism by a professional https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/l05nbr/nevermind_the_cgi_heres_my_main_technical_gripe/ Why would they want to get the color contrast closer to Wit's? Part of why this season is amazing is that we now have the whole scope of the real world - the palette is more grounded, as well as the shading and contrasts. Wit's contrast is something you don't see in many anime - it gives off a Fairy Tail-ish vibe, which was awesome because back then even us as the audience were still discovering the truth of the world along with the characters, and questioning ourselves about the origin of the titans, the religious groups inside the walls, the mystical powers of shifters, etc. It totally makes sense to ground the series in the Final Season in every way, including in the color palette and contrasts imo. Also, the fact that that person is actually trying to convince MAPPA to make changes to their production choices through tweets is kinda sad tbh, very naive imo |
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Nostalgik said: Sad7727 said: I've seen that type of criticism back in December. It's a fair enough point, but I personally don't agree with it.here's constructive criticism by a professional https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/l05nbr/nevermind_the_cgi_heres_my_main_technical_gripe/ Why would they want to get the color contrast closer to Wit's? Part of why this season is amazing is that we now have the whole scope of the real world - the palette is more grounded, as well as the shading and contrasts. Wit's contrast is something you don't see in many anime - it gives off a Fairy Tail-ish vibe, which was awesome because back then even us as the audience were still discovering the truth of the world along with the characters, and questioning ourselves about the origin of the titans, the religious groups inside the walls, the mystical powers of shifters, etc. It totally makes sense to ground the series in every way, including in the color palette and contrasts imo. Also, the fact that that person is actually trying to convince MAPPA to make changes to their production choices through tweets is kinda sad tbh, very naive imo he is not saying the contrast should be WIT levels,he is comparing it with them because they're the ones who did the previous seasons. as for the dark mood/grounded he already discussed your point in the first edit |
Blackkatsu001 said: prioritise it more than aot final season part 2 you meanMappaPrefersJJK said: Hahaha let's gooo Don't get cocky, Chainsaw man is coming and mappa soon gonna prioritise it over jujutsu. |
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