Attack on Titan
Have you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :( |
| reminder Yabuta (the director of the pre-animated PV of the final season) tweeted this And there is no big difference in rewards depending on the title. (At least there is no difference to overturn the motivation of animators.) So animators often choose titles to be involved for reasons other than rewards. https://twitter.com/yabshu55/status/1352367731509628929 and i bet those animators are looking for better production schedule since the money reward are not that much different even for super animators blame the production committee for they decide the production schedule and airing date |
Blackkatsu001 said: Have you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :( Yeah it's upsetting but we have to remember that not even season 3(maybe even s2?) looked this good consistency wise, but yeah when you start to think it's the same studio it's impossible not to get a little upset |
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Blackkatsu001 said: Have you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :( if AoT 4 ep looked like that it would get the same hate and criticism anyways so ... people would take screenshots of bad still frames and trashtalk just be happy we have such a good adaptation because better good than none from what i heard jjk and aot have the same budget but schedule is different so you cant really make flawless product when you work till day before release and people still cry and trashtalk your work for not being flawless looking masterpiece |
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| MAPPA is doing their best with the production schedule they have |
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Blackkatsu001 said: MappaPrefersJJK said: Hahaha let's gooo Don't get cocky, Chainsaw man is coming and mappa soon gonna prioritise it over jujutsu. Who knows ? But chainsaw man will be way harder to animate, so maybe there will be a lot of cgi and no matter if it's good or bad cgi, people will shit on it. |
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| Yeah it really is sad. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love season 4. AOT has had animation better than the latest JJK episode but I wish it had something jaw dropping this season. Maybe it’s a good thing the next arc’s battle isn’t getting animated this season. |
| LMAO I'll explain Jujutsu is a battle shounen with fights EVERY damn episode, it NEEDS great animation to be memorable because that's its main appeal. AoT is a war drama, it needs good writing, directing and art. That's it |
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| AoT had it's moment of greatness and at one point(hopefully after Shibuya Incident) the quality in Jujutsu will drop hard as well. That said, AoT fans are overall still damn lucky. Just look at One Piece and be grateful for what you have. |
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| Let's not spread false rumour here, snk could get the same jjk staff they would still be in the same situation, its the lack of time is the problem here, not the staff behind it. its also 3 times harder to animate snk compare to jjk, which makes the situation even worse. |
| It's never going have a fight that's going to come even close to what we've had in AoT. |
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badmintona said: GoZha said: MAPPA is doing their best with the production schedule they have People like you are the reason why AOT s4 sucks. I don't think you understand. MAPPA literally can't animate it any better in just 8 months. Thats literally impossible. MAPPA had no control over the schedule so you can't blame them. I don't know why you would make a post saying "People like you are the reason why AOT season 4 sucks." when they aren't wrong. Not to take you out of your delusions but Wit dropped it for a reason. Not only that, but even if Wit continued animating it it would've looked even worse. Wit would still need CGI like MAPPA since they would have the same timeframe and they are a smalelr studio. The only difference is, have you seen the colossal titan in season 3? Imagine that but for every single titan. |
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badmintona said: Oh yes because I personally worked on episode 6 in the CGI departmentGoZha said: MAPPA is doing their best with the production schedule they have People like you are the reason why AOT s4 sucks. Lmao fool keep hating but it's the truth like the season or not |
HoodKublaiKhanFeb 19, 2021 3:00 PM
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Kaasfondue said: It's never going have a fight that's going to come even close to what we've had in AoT. Almost everything in AOT from both WIT and MAPPA studios cannot compare with the insane animation of JJK. The only things that come close are the super-cuts from Arufumi Imai. Edit: talking strictly sakuga wise |
ZprotuFeb 19, 2021 3:39 PM
Nostalgik said: LMAO I'll explain Jujutsu is a battle shounen with fights EVERY damn episode, it NEEDS great animation to be memorable because that's its main appeal. AoT is a war drama, it needs good writing, directing and art. That's it THANK YOU. Yes, some great animation is very welcome but for what this season has been (war drama with only a couple action heavy episodes) the animation/production has been really solid. Since it's looking more and more likely that this cour will end at chapter 116, this will likely remain the case until the end, leaving the action heavy content for Part 2. Even if the animation isn't always top tier, the writing, direction and art have been superb. |
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badmintona said: GoZha said: MAPPA is doing their best with the production schedule they have People like you are the reason why AOT s4 sucks. Lmfao blame season 4 on the people yes. Its not like you could ignore threads or anything |
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Blackkatsu001 said: Have you guys seen jjk episode 19 ? it's really sad that AOT is just a side project for mappa and it's not getting the same godlike treatment as jujutsu. :( blame production committee MAPPA studios with a good schedule are insanely good |
| well, AoT is the one with a 9.17 sooooooooo |
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MilkShakeT said: well, AoT is the one with a 9.17 sooooooooo Yea this indicates that great animation while nice to have is not really needed in AOT, but would definitely improve the experience. I wish the production committee gives MAPPA a lot of time to give justice to part 2 of s4. Hiro4ka11 said: Ofcool2947 said: Damn, no more sakuga for AOT, only that reload gun gabi did for a couple of seconds by vercreek animator. Really? how about armin titan? you forget? -Falco opening scene in eps 1 (complex animation) -Gabi vs guntank -Zeke screaming in eps 1 (camera movement) -titan rain -Reiner transform (1st half) -Eps 2 dialogue scene -Female titan and marcel's jaws animation -Declaration war chaos -Udo final scene -Warhammer transform -Eren punch Warhammer ( close up view is done in 2d) -LEVI butt appearance -Mikasa vs Warhammer 2nd strike -Jean dodging cart titan shoot -Paradis vs marley titan quick scene in eps 7 -Armin Collesal titan appearance -Jean vs Cart titan -Cart titan falls animation. -Reiner uncompleted transform vs eren -3dmg scene in eps 8 -Levi kick -Falco catch sad gabi (180'camera works) -Gabi vs lobov -Gabi aiming inside ths ships -reloading gun animation that's what i can mention until eps 8. there's more but aot final 1st half is mostly dialogue heavy. With just 8 months to animate, MAPPA still managed to make these scenes look good. Thing is, AOT fans are ungrateful af. |
ZprotuFeb 19, 2021 2:56 PM
Vagabondo said: Fr lmaoHow dare you not play YouSeeBigGirl when eren jumps off the roof. Lmao this people are absolute definition of delusional they think if we shit on final season they're gonna say ok lets cancel it and remake it 2 years later. Imagine blame people for enjoying something you dont thats pathetic. Btw Boku no sensou full version is out. Check it out its amazing! Didn't know "Boku no Sensou" dropped. Time for a listen |
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Woah not criticizing MAPPA will ruin Aot... Mindblown  |
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| Fr lol I didn't even say whether it was good or bad I just said that it looks the way it does because of a shitty schedule |
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GoZha said: Fr lol I didn't even say whether it was good or bad I just said that it looks the way it does because of a shitty schedule i know right fr working on Gymnastics Samurai and AoT and JK |
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Zprotu said: Are you telling me the super-cuts from Imai don't completely blow anything JJK has done out of the water? I definitely disagree with that.Kaasfondue said: It's never going have a fight that's going to come even close to what we've had in AoT. Honestly true, almost everything in AOT from both WIT and MAPPA studios cannot compare with the insane animation of JJK. The only things that come close are the super-cuts from Arufumi Imai. You are overselling JJK's visuals imo. While the animation is good it's not ''insane'', and who cares with that poor camerawork and ugly ass CGI backgrounds it has most of the time anyway. JJK peaked in episode 2. JJK's action scenes are average sloppy blowjobs, not veteran hooker blowjobs. |
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MilkShakeT said: well, AoT is the one with a 9.17 sooooooooo Jujutsu could be below Ex-Arm I wouldn't care Good production obviously matters more than score |
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FMmatron said: MilkShakeT said: well, AoT is the one with a 9.17 sooooooooo Jujutsu could be below Ex-Arm I wouldn't care Good production obviously matters more than score yes ik but usually they're at least somewhat linked |
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MappaPrefersJJK said: Chainsaw man will be better than jujutsu kaisen, it doesn't even matter if it looks average most of the time. It's not hard to beat jujutsu kaisen.Blackkatsu001 said: Don't get cocky, Chainsaw man is coming and mappa soon gonna prioritise it over jujutsu. Who knows ? But chainsaw man will be way more harder to animate, so maybe there will be a lot of cgi and no matter if it's good or bad cgi, people will shit on it. |
Thorf said: MappaPrefersJJK said: Chainsaw man will be better than jujutsu kaisen, it doesn't even matter if it looks average most of the time. It's not hard to beat jujutsu kaisen.Who knows ? But chainsaw man will be way more harder to animate, so maybe there will be a lot of cgi and no matter if it's good or bad cgi, people will shit on it. Yeah sure, I believe you. |
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Hiro4ka11 said: FMmatron said: Jujutsu could be below Ex-Arm I wouldn't care Good production obviously matters more than score there's god level animation and consistent each second till end but they don't get the hype and get forgeten. Don't care about hype and it won't be forgotten by me MilkShakeT said: FMmatron said: Jujutsu could be below Ex-Arm I wouldn't care Good production obviously matters more than score yes ik but usually they're at least somewhat linked True, but bringing up the score in this thread, as if it would compensate for something xD |
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Kaasfondue said: Zprotu said: Are you telling me the super-cuts from Imai don't completely blow anything JJK has done out of the water? I definitely disagree with that.Honestly true, almost everything in AOT from both WIT and MAPPA studios cannot compare with the insane animation of JJK. The only things that come close are the super-cuts from Arufumi Imai. You are overselling JJK's visuals imo. While the animation is good it's not ''insane'', and who cares with that poor camerawork and ugly ass CGI backgrounds it has most of the time anyway. JJK peaked in episode 2. JJK's action scenes are average sloppy blowjobs, not veteran hooker blowjobs. Looking good visually ain't the same thing as having great animation although it is possible for both to happen at the same time (With the Imai super cuts in AOT for example). I agree that visually JJK is not anything special but its week to week animation, in general, is really smooth and in the fight scenes the amount of sakuga can be considered insane, while the only time we've really seen insane animation in AOT has been with the Imai supercuts but the reason they look better is that they are also insane with everything else in terms of art. I was speaking strictly on animation and sakuga while you are also bringing up other aspects of art if you know what I mean. TLDR: AOT looks amazing but strictly speaking sakuga wise JJK takes the cake compared to everything bar the Imai cuts. |
Ofcool2947 said: Damn, no more sakuga for AOT, only that reload gun gabi did for a couple of seconds by vercreek animator. Really? how about armin titan? you forget? -Falco opening scene in eps 1 (complex animation) -Gabi vs guntank -Zeke screaming in eps 1 (camera movement) -titan rain -Reiner transform (1st half) -Eps 2 dialogue scene -Female titan and marcel's jaws animation -Declaration war chaos -Udo final scene -Warhammer transform -Eren punch Warhammer ( close up view is done in 2d) -LEVI butt appearance -Mikasa vs Warhammer 2nd strike -Jean dodging cart titan shoot -Paradis vs marley titan quick scene in eps 7 -Armin Collesal titan appearance -Jean vs Cart titan -Cart titan falls animation. -Reiner uncompleted transform vs eren -3dmg scene in eps 8 -Levi kick -Falco catch sad gabi (180'camera works) -Gabi vs lobov -Gabi aiming inside ths ships -reloading gun animation that's what i can mention until eps 8. there's more but aot final 1st half is mostly dialogue heavy. |
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FMmatron said: Hiro4ka11 said: there's god level animation and consistent each second till end but they don't get the hype and get forgeten. Don't care about hype and it won't be forgotten by me True, but bringing up the score in this thread, as if it would compensate for something xD it just might ¯\_(γ)_/¯ xp |
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| I do recall seeing somewhere that according to Hiroshi Seko (Script Writer for JJK) JJK already had talks for an anime adaptation when the series only had 2 volumes. I’m not 100% sure if this is correct but I do remember seeing this somewhere, but if this is true then it would make sense that JuJutsu Kaisen has more hand drawn animation than Attack on Titan because MAPPA obviously was given more time to animate JJK while they were given less than a year to animate Attack on Titan. |
Hiro4ka11 said: Ofcool2947 said: Damn, no more sakuga for AOT, only that reload gun gabi did for a couple of seconds by vercreek animator. Really? how about armin titan? you forget? -Falco opening scene in eps 1 (complex animation) -Gabi vs guntank -Zeke screaming in eps 1 (camera movement) -titan rain -Reiner transform (1st half) -Eps 2 dialogue scene -Female titan and marcel's jaws animation -Declaration war chaos -Udo final scene -Warhammer transform -Eren punch Warhammer ( close up view is done in 2d) -LEVI butt appearance -Mikasa vs Warhammer 2nd strike -Jean dodging cart titan shoot -Paradis vs marley titan quick scene in eps 7 -Armin Collesal titan appearance -Jean vs Cart titan -Cart titan falls animation. -Reiner uncompleted transform vs eren -3dmg scene in eps 8 -Levi kick -Falco catch sad gabi (180'camera works) -Gabi vs lobov -Gabi aiming inside ths ships -reloading gun animation that's what i can mention until eps 8. there's more but aot final 1st half is mostly dialogue heavy. Also Zeke , Gabi and Udo rotoscoped scene |
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