Ecchi in my fantasy?!
| i absolutely hate ecchi/harem stuff but if i like the story i can overlook those aspects. |
| Protesters, assemble!! |
Food_poisoning said: I'm quite interested in knowing if the people here like this story despite it having ecchi but would rather go without it, or if people like it all, perversion included, and think it adds some quality to the show. I would rather not have LN/WN readers vote on this but it's not like I can do anything to stop anyone lol. Also, this is not a place to discuss the pedophilia topic. I'm good with it as long as it's used for character development for Rudy. If not, then okay... It's fine just as long as you don't include kids and minors in those fanservice scenes. There's literally no point in using them. |
Sore wa chigau yo! - Junko Enoshima, probably |
| The WN sucks ass, even without the pedophilia content. |
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
| I'd say neither options. These things don't bother me a whole lot. Also, apparently its an important plot point. |
| I gave up on character of the week since it takes too much thinking. I'll just change my forum pfp to whoever I want every week lol. |
| glad to see someone ask such a question honestly, personally I dont care for the ecchi... with it or without it doesnt matter much to me, tho I guess having less ecchi and more focus on the plot or characters would be what I choose. |
| A Wise Man Once Said: #(%!*@)+$& |
| No What happpens here can't be even labelled as ecchi unlike what some people call it. The story (so far) isn't anything very unique. And losing the perviness would result in losing one point of uniqueness, even if it's not something positive for everyone. Also the slight perviness is completely understandable considering the MC is mentally much older than he is physically and unless he seriously does harm to someone, there's nothing wrong with keeping his previous traits in his new persona. Another thing is... it's just a cartoon, no need to take it overly seriously. |
| This poll makes me dissapointed in humanity |
| We need more ecchi, that's it! Groenboys said: This poll makes me dissapointed in humanity Yeah really. 134 people not wanting ecchi in their anime? Absolutely disgusting. Which is a bummer because that scene is glorious ;') rdturbo said: Ok lets have a serious discussion. In my honest opinion, the pervy nature of the characters just not Rudy definitely added to the story. Before I go deep, I don't mean by what happened in ep6. Yeah, it can do without that. As someone who has read the novels, there are some masterfully written sex scenes coming up way into the future. I have read multiple western fantasy novel. While they are good, the main characters often get boring because of their lack of personality. However, in Konosuba and MT we have MC's with pervy nature that in my opinion is used excellently for comedic gags. I find this type of comedy entertaining, not everyone will. I get that. Despite the wishes of some readers, the author actually went deeper into exploring sexual themes. I don't want to spoil but we have already seen adultery and polyamory explored to some extent. It goes extremely deep later in the novels and the effects it has on relationships. I was a bit surprised by this, as most often we only deal with these topics superficially, however the author went pretty deep. Despite that, he didnt forget to put some comedic touches to that as well. Overall, yes maybe for mass audience this story could have been better off without its perverted nature, however, for me this perverted nature only added realism to the story especially in the middle and later stages. So to get there, you have to deal with the exaggerated perversion in the beginning. I do believe the author could have written the initial parts of the story better in terms of sex and stuff, but he made the conscious choice of making it an important theme throughout the story and the payoff is good, so, no I don't have many problems with it and I respect the author's choice.  |
| bruh |
FullyCharged said: Rudues sexually assaulted a child even though he is a grown ass men in a childrens body. The anime would have been much better without the groping.We need more ecchi, that's it! Groenboys said: This poll makes me dissapointed in humanity Yeah really. 134 people not wanting ecchi in their anime? Absolutely disgusting. |
| It doesn't really matter to me whether there are ecchi or not in this anime, I usually either just pretend those scenes don't exist or skip it tho, plain and simple :) |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
| The vote is kinda shit, because I don't want ecchi stuff, but I want realistic sexual content. In theory, I like Rudy and Paul and what they do, because these are things that people irl do, too. The issue and why this particular anime fails for me is that there are never meaningful, realistic consequences. Rudy groping the sleeping 12 yo Eris is the best example of that. Considering his past, it makes sense that he'd do that shit. BUT: Why do we need to see it if Rudy doesn't have any inner dialogue about it, reflecting on his own actions? Or someone else seeing his crime and punishing him. Nothing. It's a scene that only exists for perverted weebs that watch this anime. It's a 100% inorganic scene, a scene without purpose other than give the audience questionable fap material. The solution to this wouldn't be to just remove these scenes, however. If you remove them, it just becomes more boring. As I said above: these scenes ought to have had consequences. Paul shouldn't have been rewarded with 2 wives. Rudy shouldn't have gotten away with stealing and keeping Roxy's panties. He also shouldn't have gotten away with groping Eris. And the merchant at the market shouldn't have gotten away with telling a 7 yo boy about an aphrodisiac that lets a man cum 10 times. For all of that to make sense, you'd have to assume that this is an isekai where perverts are accepted by society. But I doubt that is the case :/ Gilgameshuu said: rdturbo said: you don't root for him. the author made a conscious choice of making him the lowest of the low. It was meant to convey that even someone at the bottom can become better if they try. obviously there are some comedic hijinks thrown in there as after all this is anime. We are at volume 2 of a 24 volume journey. I get that but that's just really hit or miss, and it's a BIG miss for me, it's not interesting for me to watch someone try to get better if I can't personally root for them, I can a bit if that person has some redeemable qualities, but... I just can't see anything redeemable from Rudeus at least in my perspective so it's hard to be interested in watching his growth. So you cant have empathy with a poor hikikomori who was bullied and ostracized his whole life and prefer some vanilla shit story with a goody good shoes hero like Kirito? People like you are why most stories are so shit boring. We need more protagonists like Rudy. Heroes shouldn't be 100% good, that has never been realistic. Can a pedophile save the world? Why not? |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Groenboys said: FullyCharged said: Rudues sexually assaulted a child even though he is a grown ass men in a childrens body. The anime would have been much better without the groping.We need more ecchi, that's it! Yeah really. 134 people not wanting ecchi in their anime? Absolutely disgusting. No, it would have been better if it had shown the consequences of that scene. Either by inner dialogue of Rudy's, where he either feels deep guilt OR double down on it and shows what a terrible person he is. Or by someone watching the crime that Rudy committed and punishing him later on. Or by Eris waking up, beating him and then having him punished by her father. It could have been interesting if the scene didn't exist just to satisfy degenerate weebs. |
| If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
| The pervertedness adds another layer to his character. People refuse to view that aspect of Rudy in tandem with his other personality traits. I unironically think this show is too smart for the majority of anime watchers. |
| I agree with a lot of the people in this thread, the perverted nature of Rudy adds to the story but we could do with some consequences. At some point someone has to actually call him out for it right? Probably not, but I can dream. Some of the scenes and conversations did make me uncomfortable (mainly ep 6 + Rudy talking with his dad), and I know some people will just say “then don’t watch it if you don’t wanna see it” but I genuinely like the plot and want to see how it goes. I just want the scenes to have some type of significance on the story, not just to satisfy those with perverted desires. |
Lastye said: In my opinion, most people are not disgusted with the echi, but with the fact that the protagonist has a 40-year-old mind. I personally think that the fact that he eventually demonstrates that he is still that 40 year old guy, with all his psychological problems and effects, adds a lot to the story. In addition, it is good to see an anime that deals, albeit superficially, with heavier themes, such as traits, polygamy, etc. I can't take any more of those shows that are pure echi without meaning, in which there are several obscene scenes, but always "by accident". More than that, your options do not make sense. You are literally asking us to choose between 1) i like echis and 2) i do not like echis. It is a valid question, but, in this specific show, most of the echi makes a lot of sense, because the protagonist is a 40 year old guy that, before death, spent all day inside his bedroom seeind lolis (just look at the things on the floor when his parentes break inside his room). I should've probably added options like "ecchi's alright but I don't like this execution" etc, guess I expected people to interpret what's beyond the question lol. I guess another question is, would you rather have a mindless ecchi show or a show that is similarly ecchi but mixed in to deal with heavier themes, but poorly and at a superficial level? I would probably go with the former as it would frustrate me less, but it seems like it's the latter for you, not like I think either will be much better. Of course there's more beyond that to the show, but I still think it's an overall negative in the grand scheme of things. |
All life is a prelude to death. |
| If the source material for this show wasn't written before Game of thrones season 1 aired, I'd claim that it took inspiration from it. The abundance of ecchi scenes ruins the overall experience on such a great level that I'm struggling to give it more than 5 out of 10 point simply because of them. So far it feels like the author/director simply MUST include and ecchi scene in each episode as if their lives depend on it! Even if we exclude all the "normal" ecchi scenes (like parents having sex), we still get pedo-touching, sex-potion offered to a 7yo, 8yo advised to use protection with the 10yolds. Is this show trying to be serious is it supposed to be taken as a joke? Did I accidentally click on Konosuba?! |
SenpaiMars-Barz said: I just want you to know that I found this the best opportunity I could hope for._Maneki-Neko_ said: I wouldn't have any problem with it, if he were just a kid that is curious about other kids, because that's really just a normal part of development. But he's an ADULT neet guy, who even liked lolis before (remember when this scum beat his meat instead of going to the funeral of his parents), and now he grabs real kids in the fantasy world ... and that's just awful af. If he were just staring at adult women in his new kid body... yeah okay, but in this form it's really icky. This is because he WAS a pedophile. He is supposed to be trash and this is a story of his redemption as he builds himself an honorable life. You are missing the point. God forbid a main character not be perfect.... |
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Tylaen said: SenpaiMars-Barz said: I just want you to know that I found this the best opportunity I could hope for.This is because he WAS a pedophile. He is supposed to be trash and this is a story of his redemption as he builds himself an honorable life. You are missing the point. God forbid a main character not be perfect.... I laughed at this harder than I should have. |
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SenpaiMars-Barz said: I'd have an easier time being placated by your words if in the sixth episode there wasn't a slapstick sexual assault on Eris.Ok, ok, touché....but come on we've all seen the "it's not pedophilia if it's a 2,000 yo vampire" memes. This is just anime. And the MC was just a pedo, there is no child porn, none of the young characters have been overtly sexualized. It is purely just his shitty character that is there for narrative. So many people complaining will fap to 1000+ yo lolis and anime high schoolers and then go white night on this show. That was just the tipping point for me though, as I was very suspect about how sexualized Roxy was, a character Rudy himself described as a "scornful loli" which basically mean she looks like a kid. No, I'm way past buying into it as a "narrative" given how quickly and efficiently it's resolved his other neet-problems. I also hate the 100-year-old dragon defense and I will mock anyone using it as a defense for anything. Strangely enough, Rudy has become the dragon in this metaphor as he is way older than he looks! |
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| Stupid prudish people. Yikes. Western people smh. Ecchi in MY fantasy? What kind of entitlement is this? No. This isn't yours. Give it a 1 and then move on. Let us enjoy our ecchi. You enjoy whatever sjw bs you want. |
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| Yes and No. I'm more for a Yes because most of it is unnecessary, but also No cause other than the MC being like that in his previous life, it's also a kind of stupid trope to make me laugh. NGL tho, I've seen a lot of f'd up things from anime, but the stable scene was kinda uncomfortable to watch for me too, but nothing that we've never seen in anime. I mean, they could be 7 and 9 but they act as any other anime character from 12 to 20, they're just shorter lol. tl;dr: Yes, but some of it is fine |
| Best series of all time? Gormiti of course |
| Nope, it would be significantly worse. This show likes to show the true nature of the humans in this world. |
| Nah. I think the perverted parts give the series more "soul" and more personality. |
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