helter12skelter said: hoopla123 said: I'm not the one backing up sexual assault in the series. I completely understand people can be appalled by that shit and drop the series which is totally fine. And I aint the one lying up my ass trying to defend child grooming incestuous pedophilia shit like Vampire Knight by saying Kaname isn't Yuki's older brother. Kaname is a reincarnation of the first ancestor of their family, so even the whole reincarnation card doesn't work to rule out the incest, let alone pedophilia/child grooming. But I do hate pointing shit out like this because I don't care what happens in a work of fiction unless if kids are taking this shit in class. Also just because you read Vampire Knight when you were 14 and were influenced by its incestuous child grooming plot doesn't fucking mean kids are watching MT as something targeted to their audience, (unlike Vampire Knight which the target audience were little teenage girls aka shoujo manga) let alone be taught sex ed through it. And even episode 6 shows no justification for his sexual assault. No one praises him and he gets his ass beat. In Vampire Knight, a series you list as your favourites, they justify it and even give us a happy ending with the old man brother fucking his little sister and having a daughter LOL. i've never read VK manga and i even thought you were talking about zero, just so you know how oblivious i am about the show plus i don't even recall it being like that, i was literally FOURTEEN... i'm not saying everyone who likes the show supports this, it's the fact that """sjw""" are being called out by actually pointing serious things out. i myself am enjoying mushoku and won't stop watching it but it is really concerning that the main character acts pedo - he's conscious about still being an adult - and rapey. the fact that he got his ass beaten was not a way of making it up to the situation, because eris would kick him anyway, even if he wasn't doing what he was doing - she would even kick him out of nowhere, as the show portrayed. also the fact that he had such a huge trauma in his past life due to people taking off his clothes without consent doesn't really make sense when you see him doing this. and why is it bad to point it out? why are we called snowflakes and sjw ... it's literally common sense ... idk what's your gender but as a woman myself i feel like this is really not it, as it still is being normalized, everyday. and if we can at least bring some sense into anyone, it's good. no one needs to make fun of anyone. no one's a hater just for bringing it up and questioning if people are okay with this. no one needs to drop the show and i think we only want to make sure that this situation is not overlooked and normalized but yes questioned while also making sure that people know how problematic it can be. and once again, i don't remember VK that well, i even got it out of my favs list - it is not up to date and i didn't even know i had it there until i checked - but i guess the big difference here is that in VK it acutally did something to the plot, while in mushoku it... doesn't. You can point it out and I have no qualms about it at all. I can't speak for everyone here but that's just how it is for me. My only problem comes in when guys like the OP come in to this with a clear agenda of labeling everyone who enjoys the show as a pedophile and that somehow this show is a leading beacon for pedophilia and sexual assault acceptance. Frankly it's fucking stupid and the equivalent of the old days when gamers were called out by the mainstream media for being violent gun totting murder thirsty maniacs for playing FPS, GTA, etc. If you just want to discuss about how you don't like the sexual assault scenes in the series, that's no problem. Hell even discussing about dropping it? Sure. But I'm against anyone that thinks fiction=reality and equating a fictional work to the level of real life criminal activity. Also, I only said that shit about Vampire Knight to prove a point. I actually don't care if it has grooming and shit in it. It's fiction, who the fuck cares. Mod Note: Edited quoted post |
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asetrisk said: cedwino said: Take it easy. This is fiction, it's not real. But if you can't stand this series just drop it. yeah i think these types of people can't fathom the fact that they can not watch an anime if they don't like it but instead they ridicule other people who do like it. I mean if yall were to watch an anime where children just get brutally raped and murdered and you liked that, sorry fam, but you're highkey fucked lmao. |
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Doflamingo45 said: asetrisk said: yeah i think these types of people can't fathom the fact that they can not watch an anime if they don't like it but instead they ridicule other people who do like it. I mean if yall were to watch an anime where children just get brutally raped and murdered and you liked that, sorry fam, but you're highkey fucked lmao. Where in the hell is this brutal rape and murder shit happening in MT? The fuck lmao. Man you really making me talk smack about my favourite series of all time huh.. Brutal rape and killing little kids? The Kiseki series is the top dog for that one buddy. You wanna talk grooming, literal fucking gang rape and massacring little kids? Look no further than Kiseki. If you shit on this for those reasons (that don't even happen in this show/source material), you shouldn't be anywhere near the Kiseki series. According to you, that guy is highkey fucked for liking this show but you are mega fucked LOL. |
Loonah said: Prog_upworks13 said: Op got a points. I still give this show 10/10 because I know what happens in future and yes.,Thats molesting scene is disgusting.Like if we comparing it to other isekai shows (re zero for example) , Its like Subaru touching Emilia chest while she was sleeping lol. And Im sure many of you will have a huge slash for Re zero lol, unlike this show. What I seeing so far. Subaru was reaching for Puck (the necklace), you ding dong. Do you really think mf SUBARU would assault Emilia in her sleep? The fuck? Omg I know Subaru will never do that . I mean if Rudy was at Subaru position. Do you understand what I aiming for ? |
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BlakexEkalb said: Lol I love the arguments this show is making. Keep 'em coming everybody! 9/10 the best show this season behind the obvious AOT S4. Definetely not better than Re:Zero not even close. But OK for now. |
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hoopla123 said: Doflamingo45 said: I mean if yall were to watch an anime where children just get brutally raped and murdered and you liked that, sorry fam, but you're highkey fucked lmao. Where in the hell is this brutal rape and murder shit happening in MT? The fuck lmao. Man you really making me talk smack about my favourite series of all time huh.. Brutal rape and killing little kids? The Kiseki series is the top dog for that one buddy. You wanna talk grooming, literal fucking gang rape and massacring little kids? Look no further than Kiseki. If you shit on this for those reasons (that don't even happen in this show/source material), you shouldn't be anywhere near the Kiseki series. According to you, that guy is highkey fucked for liking this show but you are mega fucked LOL. First off fam, watch it with any spoilers. I'm only on Trails II. "Where in the hell is this brutal rape and murder shit happening in MT?" That's not my point. Guess I should've made myself a little bit clearer. My point is that no matter how fucked they make something (rape, murder, genocide, pedophilia, etc) people will just use the same excuse every single time "If you don't like it, don't watch it". Like for "example" if a show was just pedo rape, people would defend themselves still. Like at what point is something too fucked up? Now again, I'm not talking about this show. I'm just making a point because I had a previous conversation over this Japanese movie where a girl gets tortured and cut into pieces, and that's literally the ENTIRE movie. Some people even say it was a real person they used because of the realism and the fact that the film is so old. If you seriously genuinely enjoy something like watching a girl get chopped into pieces, you are actually screwy in the head. Now let me say it again, I'm not talking about this show. Nor am I calling you messed up. Just kinda going on a rant in relation to what the OP was trying to say. Sorry if you thought I was attacking people who are watching this specific show. Ps. I respect you just because you like Trails, it's a badass game thus far. |
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Doflamingo45 said: hoopla123 said: Where in the hell is this brutal rape and murder shit happening in MT? The fuck lmao. Man you really making me talk smack about my favourite series of all time huh.. Brutal rape and killing little kids? The Kiseki series is the top dog for that one buddy. You wanna talk grooming, literal fucking gang rape and massacring little kids? Look no further than Kiseki. If you shit on this for those reasons (that don't even happen in this show/source material), you shouldn't be anywhere near the Kiseki series. According to you, that guy is highkey fucked for liking this show but you are mega fucked LOL. First off fam, watch it with any spoilers. I'm only on Trails II. "Where in the hell is this brutal rape and murder shit happening in MT?" That's not my point. Guess I should've made myself a little bit clearer. My point is that no matter how fucked they make something (rape, murder, genocide, pedophilia, etc) people will just use the same excuse every single time "If you don't like it, don't watch it". Like for "example" if a show was just pedo rape, people would defend themselves still. Like at what point is something too fucked up? Now again, I'm not talking about this show. I'm just making a point because I had a previous conversation over this Japanese movie where a girl gets tortured and cut into pieces, and that's literally the ENTIRE movie. Some people even say it was a real person they used because of the realism and the fact that the film is so old. If you seriously genuinely enjoy something like watching a girl get chopped into pieces, you are actually screwy in the head. Now let me say it again, I'm not talking about this show. Nor am I calling you messed up. Just kinda going on a rant in relation to what the OP was trying to say. Sorry if you thought I was attacking people who are watching this specific show. Ps. I respect you just because you like Trails, it's a badass game thus far. Ah shit I saw your Fie profiles and I thought that you already caught up to the Sky series (since it released first in the west). My bad for the spoilers than. But uh, it will still be quite shocking for you as you go since it isn't all spoiled. Oh and if you are talking about gore and snuff films where the whole focus of the movie or show is on those points (aka shit like Hostel or A Serbian Film), yeah I get your point. I thought you were just implying that about MT. I'd get the OP's point if this show justified pedophilia and was going on about praising the MC for raping and diddling little kids but the focus is nowhere even near that. It does happen (the diddling like you've seen this episode, iirc the only time it happens from here on out minus consent shit later on when they older), but it isn't the primary focus. It's more of a comedy relief/showing how scummy the MC is. If you don't like it and it don't match with your code, you can drop it and move on no problem. But labeling everyone on the way as a pedophile and making the show out to be some beacon of pedophilia and sexual assault acceptance movement is just fucking stupid. Ps. Wonder how you'll feel about the series when you reach The 3rd and Crossbell lol. I'd be glad to discuss with you those games when you finish them too. Enjoy your play fam. |
BlakexEkalb said: I'm a big Re:Zero fanboy. 5th favorite of all time. However, I'm not feeling this season tbh. Perhaps because of the excessive flashbacks. S2 P1 > S1 > S2 P2 atm, perhaps the upcoming episodes will change that. Next Episode is also flashback but it is very interesting because antagonists vs antagonists then flashbacks over. |
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LightVelox said: i completely agree with this, people can argue and complaint about the show and the characters but calling those who watches the show a pedophile? That's stupid.The protag is simply a piece of shit, nothing more, I don't even see on the pedo side cause he still has the body of a child and he didn't really live almost anything as an adult on his previous life, but i still see a fucking idiot sexually harassing a sleeping girl, for me that's definitely not just a trope cause he's doing way more than other pervy anime characters and he should get much more punishment than like 3 punches from Eris, but calling everyone who watches this series a pedo is just disgusting and a shitty move |
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BlakexEkalb said: How dare you not like this re zero season. How dare you have a different opinion than me. i will now call your taste shit.I'm a big Re:Zero fanboy. 5th favorite of all time. However, I'm not feeling this season tbh. Perhaps because of the excessive flashbacks. S2 P1 > S1 > S2 P2 atm, perhaps the upcoming episodes will change that. |
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