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| I marathoned this series during the last two days. The premise, setting and basic story concept were great, I got hooked very quickly. Mafia, intrigues, hitman, moral questionability, what's not to like? It kept being awesome and then there was an unexpected timeskip. I was a bit worried. but it continued to be just as good. After the second timeskip it went downhill though. The main point of the show (or at least I thought/hoped so), the battle for power inside Inferno, was not fully covered, many characters potentials were left unused (MacGuire, Godoh group, Clau) or cast aside. Instead the story focused more on more on a drama that wasn't totally believable. To give the weakpoint of this show a name: It's Cal. It started when she was a child, she just didn't fit in the show, gave it another direction I didn't like too much, her entrance just seemed forced etc... Also nobody can tell me a girl can grow so much in all respects in only 2 years. C'mon, she was like 12 so the "old" Cal would've been 14. She gre to be more than twice her original size in those two years, had gigantic boobs and just overall looked like 4-6 years passed, not only 2... Her hate for Reiji wasn't too believable imo, in the end she liked him anyway (which was so obvious) so her existence for the anime was kind apointless, her only point was to change the focus of the show from power struggles to personal drama (although I like drama and it was present in the whole anime, in the end it became too clichèd). In the end it still wasn't bad, but it didn't live up tp the expectation the first 2 parts raised. I would have totally given it 7/10, but the very ending was so unexpected and poetic that I raised my score to 8 in the last minute of the series. I still would've preferred the show to have a different final phase, but I cannot say I didn't thourougly enjoyed the show. |
AlcoholicideOct 30, 2010 2:39 PM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
The main point of the show (or at elast I thought/hoped so), the battle for power inside Inferno, was not fully covered, Unfortunately, this was never the point... unless you play VN and take Claudia's path where it is a bit more important. And anime followed Ein&Drei&Mio path instead... And end of claudia's path is awesome because |
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tatsu361 said: I checked it and in the game, him getting killed is not part of the ending. the ending was in the game ends when she turns around and laughs no surprise gunshot. i guess they just put it in there to kill an extra half minute of screen time they had. its the one called road of cerulean sky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Inferno shit, what an ending at the anime.. I prefer the ones at VN...damn but more over, I felt really sad when Cal finally died. I mean, why should they point gun at each other? It's not necessary.. The one that guilty is that scythe master, I really want to shoot him soo badly :( well now I know it's just to kill extra time..Reiji didnt hv to die, and so is Elen..stupid BeeTrain nyahahaha but I wished Cal lived too, I cried you know? :( |
| Argh! The end seriously made me want to pull out all my hair.. LOL I would have preferred a happier ending but alas, life doesn't always end up that way. GRUNT GRUNT GRUNT GRUNT. |
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A CART driver manages to find them and kill them? Not a cart driver, an assassin disguised as a cart driver. If he was to be assasinated why do it like that? why not just from very far away Because the damn place is a grassy plain? You can't climb a place and make a good head-shot... and using any other method would end up with him getting found... the place does not really offer many places to hide. Disguising as a cart driver (or hiding in the cart) is the best option in this place. f he knew he had an assasin against him he'd have killed him. I had no idea Reiji was a psychic. How the hell could he know an assassin was there? And he did know that their lives were in danger every day. However, they left their guard down because of circumstances and forgot that the most powerful mafia in the world is after them. A moment of happiness turned into the final tragedy. |
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| In the end, Reiji didn't get to see Elen's real smile, huh? That final scene was really beautifully done. Awesome soundtrack, one of the most twisted puppet-masters in the form of Scythe Master, a lesson in how not to deal with a misunderstanding - all the wonderful things this show has given me. Mercer said: Like everything else, it looks better in 2D. (Uh, some 2D.)II.The flower with the missing petal is a poisonous species named Oxytropis. |
| hmm this was a good ending for once... there was no way they could live as normal people after all and this was somehow a mercy full ending for the characters. |
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| I felt the ending was rushed and open ended. Granted that Cal finally makes amends with Reiji and Elen finds her homeland. All the main characters get shot, dies supposedly, and Inferno is still in power. Plus the writers just had to troll everyone with that ending. They need to come out with an OVA to bring proper closure. I suggest it would go like this... OVA: Behind the scene fillers: Claudia fakes her death first in collusion with Lizzie and went into hiding to plot her comeback. Meanwhile Lizzie trains Cal and becomes her mentor. Cal consumes milk and hamburgers that came from hormone dosed cows and 'grew up' in a hurry. They all come up with a plot to find their beloved Reiji and destroy Inferno. Cal pretends to act out of control to helps Lizzie fake her death while destroying those responsible for the incidents 2 years ago. Then Reiji helps Cal to fake her death. Elen and Reiji wipes out Inferno's arsenal of Phantoms, leaving Inferno vulnerable. Elen pretends to win back Inferno be colluding with them to kill Reiji. She helps him fake his death while finally finding her memories in Mongolia. Killing two birds with one stone, she smiles. Continuation: A series of events unfold as they out wit Mr. Mcguire, and take over Inferno. Claudia takes over as boss with Lizzie as her "right hand man". With Reiji, Elen, and Cal as enforcers, no one opposes her authority. The truth of Shige killing Goudou leader's son is revealed. Goudou's boss offers Mio's hand in marriage to Reiji. Now with they're relations with the Goudou group, they become the most powerful force in the underworld. Ends with Reiji making a joke to Claudia about being speedy. OMAKE: Reiji is on an island with his harem consisting of Elen, Cal, Mio, Claudia, and Lizzie. They relax on the beach having fun under the sun in various moe swimwear. Mio: white one piece w/ skirt. Elen: school mizugi. Claudia, Cal, and Lizzie: various 2-piece to show off their busty proportions. With jealousy and rivalry in the air, the girls take turns seducing Reiji. Also it is revealed that Lizzie is bi and can't decide her feelings for Claudia, Cal, or Reiji. A silly love drama ensues. Ends with everyone fighting over Reiji as the sun sets. |
toneytigreJan 30, 2011 6:22 AM
| @toneytigre omg yes ....Harem ending ftw. I think the Clo being alive and everything being a plot with Cal to fake everyones death is awesome... but i dont think Reiji need to marry Mio, after what all three phantoms wanted was a normal life, not going back to Inferno as enforcers |
choyosFeb 1, 2011 2:13 PM
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| Given the title of this series, I guess this ending was to be expected, but... it was just too friggin SAD! I know Reiji's death meant justice for Cal, however I just wish that what went down between them never happened at all. Nevertheless, at least he actually showed some humanity by keeping his memories of her in his heart, so that her death was not meaningless and she would not be forgotten. This is the only reason why I show some sympathy for Reiji, and why his death got me balling. =( Both he and Eren were finally going to be able to live their lives free of having to kill for survival, and then, BANG. I'm certain they really are both dead, but the fact that they were no longer cold-hearted killers and showed some morality (since they proved to us that they were not proud of what they had done in the past) is what made me empathize with them, and wish that they could have had more time to start fresh and live a fulfilling life. If only animes were like video games where we could choose which ending we want to see. Despite the ending, this anime was brilliant and the showdown finale was AWESOME.  |
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| FINALLY that stupid Scythe is dead, granted it wasn't as painful as i would have liked but at this point I'll gladly just take the fact that he is dead and smile. It's been a long run but the show has finally reached its conclusion with that said here we go. First let me state that i believe that both Ein and Reiji are indeed sadly dead and gone and I'll now give my reasons for why i believe they are dead and my thoughts on the whole complicated ending. 1. The title is the most obvious (yet arguable) evidence that the ending can be interpreted as they both died, i mean it requiem for the PHANTOM, and why would she be special i mean she was the first phantom and with Reiji's(most likely but there will always be arguments for the other side) and Cal's obvious death she was the last piece of the Phantoms and thus needed to die for the requiem to be completed. 2.During that oddly placed smile, she was FADING away, i mean it could be that I'm just reading to much into it, but it seriously looks like she was passing away as she was fading away, as for the smile I'll get to that more later but for the short version i think its because she knew she was going to die. 3. OK! now to the complicated crap which almost gave me as bad of a headache as the End of Evangelion did. 3-Flower- Either the flower was indeed poisonous like Oxytropis, nightshade or w.e (I'm no plant expert, so I'll leave that stuff to the experts) or it is a not poisonous flower, now i have heard a common theory that its geranium with is plausible(the animated flower does like geranium[from the pictures i have seen anyway of the real thing]) and is indeed NOT poisonous which means that if it was suppose to mean that she killed herself for whatever reason using the flower the creators of the show just got REALLY lazy in the animation of the flower(which is kinda pathetic if true since its a critical point in the show)... now the other possibility which i think is more reasonable is that it resembles reincarnation which would still mean she is dead as is indicated (all though not proven [thus the headache] even with her lifeless not blinking, seemingly not breathing body at the end of the show). 3-Wagon Assassin- OK i want to state this now, the idea that Ein killed Reiji because she didn't need him anymore pisses me off.. i mean listen to yourself, what is your reasoning? because she remembered her life thus he became redundant? i doubt it if anything they would go their separate ways... or more likely they would try to live a peaceful life together, she said herself she doesn't want a world without him (episode 18 if i remember correctly) thus killing him is hypocrisy.Also besides the morality behind it, there was ZERO indication she had a gun, yes she could have hidden one but do you really think that when she was on the floor (dead or alive) she would have gone through the effort to hide or throw her gun away, because there was NO gun in sight during that last scene. OK so getting back to the Wagon guy, i do believe he did kill Reiji when he passed by and Reiji either didn't care if he died or was just to deep into thought to notice(I'm leaning towards him not caring, because he really did seem to be a peace in the end.), also he was FAR away from Ein as the location of the bags indicate which also removes the possibility that she killed him, so with that said Reiji died from the wagon assassin, and as people may not have noticed the wagon keeps moving (possibly to kill Ein, maybe headed in her direction?). Now to state my thoughts on another matter there WAS indeed a bullet on the grass and only one shot heard which defends the idea that Ein killed Reiji, however they never showed the road so you never know if theirs a bullet there from when the assassin shot Reiji, now you say theirs only one shot, well the second possible shot which would have killed Ein could have been off screen when the song was playing and thus the bullet in the grass (which particular location isn't indicated besides being on the grass) could have been the bullet that killed Ein. The assassin could have easily got off his stupid wagon walked over to Ein, she turns around smiles knowing she is going to die, and "fades away" as the assassin shoots her.Also let me note about the smile, i think that when Reiji smiled and died and then Ein smiles that they can't see each other(too far away as noted by the bags location when Reiji walked away), and the only reason he smiles is because he felt he kept his promise(the whole thought thought process about how he couldn't keep any of his promises but that he would keep this one [the promise to make Ein smile for real again]), and the reason Ein smiles is because of the reason that i just stated, and that's because she knew she was going to die but at the same time was at peace with it. Another thing i read is that there was no blood(from a pending fatal gunshot to Ein), it may just be me but that grass looked really red, maybe its soaked with her blood. OK now I'm just as confused as the next guy so if you disagree, just know this is all my opinion and obviously like anyone else but the creators cant be proven right or wrong. i sincerely believe both died though which i think is suiting because a nice ending wouldn't have fit here and they didn't really deserve one either after all they did, so to die peacefully is the best consolation i think they could have got and assuming that they are dead i think they did die peacefully. Also i would like to state that another piece of evidence that shows they both knew they were going to die (eventually at the very least) is when Ein says they don't need to go any further, that they can stop there.So whether it was by bullet(wagon assassin) or by Oxytropis(or w.e pending flower) i do believe Ein sadly met the same end as Reiji even if Reiji's death was more clear, but considering the lives that both her and Reiji led i guess its not that bad and as i mentioned before at least they seemed at peace with it in the end. OK with ALL of that said i think it was a awesome ending (albeit confusing) and it was fitting for the tone of the story. Awesome show and may they RIP 10/10. |
InfiniteDestinyFeb 5, 2011 1:22 PM
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| Dislike bad endings ;_; It had been painfully for me to see whole series and at least I hoped for happy ending... Zetsuboushta!!! This type of story is not for me :( 7/10 |
| Scythe was pathetic in this episode. What a free ended ending. What will become of Ein as of now is a mystery. Still, inferno has the best connections there is. To track down the both of them down to Mongolia and eliminate the threat they knew Ein and Zwei would be if they continued roaming from place to place. |
| truly a awesome series. still sad they did not animate a proper way of telling us if Elen died in that field or not. |
| Reiji is alive and I will not believe otherwise because ignorance is bliss. He was really tired so he took a nap. Besides, Reiji eats bullets for breakfast. |
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| Interesting ending. It was ok overall. |
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| Kinda sucks, I knew someone will die, but why of them and in such a pointless moment? I've seen many sad endings but this one kinda sucks... Don't get me wrong. |
| And then everybody died. The end. |
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| Fitting end i suppose, there are a few things that really keep this outta 10/10 land for me though. The biggest one being how did cal go from being 10, to being 20 in two years? I also really want to like the character ein, but she is a rei clone to a T, oh well. Edit: i guess what annoys me about the end is they were trying to run away for 1/2 the series, and just got done killing 6 "phantoms" then some random guy in a cart takes them out... |
BostonblowsJun 2, 2011 3:42 PM
| What a great series. Too bad for the shitty ending. They tried to but too many things in one episode and it turned out awfully. The way they killed 6 new phantoms was waaaay too easy, Scythe was pathetic and killing both Elen and Renji (or just Renji, who cares) was just a random shot. Instead of going to Japan, to Renji hometown, they could've gone searching for Elen memories. After finding them, the big drama with Cal and Mio and an epic fight with the 6 phantoms, they could've been killed by one of them still barely alive. That last phantom, moved by the dying speech of the couple, would turn against Scythe and kill him. Inferno would still be on top but, this time, without invicible assasins. Everybody would've died happily (more less) and who lived, would've lived a happy life. End. Sad one but decent. |
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| So I just watched the final episode, and the only issue I had was the drive by w/ a horse and wagon. It took a pretty good series to turned it into a WTF momunt for me. I know Inferno is supposed to be connected but to have an agent riding around Mongolia, and on top of that being able to even track 2 assassins into the the butt crack of the world where power isn't even a common occurance is baffleing. The clincher is they killed the one and not the other LOL. I mean wow, just wow. BTW whats AOE stand for? I saw it in a few post but dont know the term I dont guess outside of Area Of Effect. |
| I'm having a lot of trouble trying to justify why I watched the whole series. I was deeply aggravated by the huge amount of stupid story design decisions. The whole thing with Cal's complete personality change was disgusting. Eren was a weak character until the last episode, I didn't connect with her at all. Scythe Master is my most hated character of all time, and the hate made me dislike the show more because he was just there to be hated, he was a very shallow and basic character. Reiji was perhaps the most 3-dimensional character, but his inability to explain things to and redeem Cal was also disgusting. I didn't care at all about the surprise deaths at the end, I just laughed a little, thinking "Of course this would happen". Instead of the retarded final fight with Scythe and his lackeys, they should have spent the final episode exploring Eren's memories more. Then I might have felt loss when they died. But for some reason I can't explain, the show was enjoyable enough to finish, so I'll be rating it as 6/10. |
| Im pretty sure thats just grass |
| At first I thought : "wow, this is gonna be good" first few episodes were nice then it went slightly boring. The scene with small Cal slightly made it little bit interesting again. At the near end of the series I was really hooked up. The scene with adult cal was quite enjoyable the action and stuff. I was gonna rate this high, then Reiji got shot. I was like "WTH!??". That ruined the whole series. Great, in the middle of Mongolia nowhere, how can they track them ? In a great city like Japan, it took half year before sycthe and cal realize where they are. They just been to Mongolia less than one week I suppose. A cart guy shot him just in time. He survived all those run and assassins and got killed by one bald cart guy. that final moment make me regret watching this series. Thinking back lots of things doesn't make sense. - How can Cal grow super extra fast ? She was a child then another moment she's look as old as Lizzie, looks much older than Reiji or Elen. - one bald cart guy kill the almighty reiji ? Reiji who had survived more bloody battle - Why did Reiji kill Cal anyway ? He didn't even explain anything to her. Gosh lastly, did elen died ? she looks dead to me, but I'm not sure. It doesn't make sense to shoot only reiji and leave elen alone ? that's just absurd, not that I wish her dead |
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| So much herping and derping going on in this series. It started out well enough, but became progressively worse right up until this bad ending. I still enjoyed it for the most part (except for the last arc, which was just retarded) even so, albeit not enough to give it more than a strong 5/10. |
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| Honestly, the ending was not horrible like some people claim it to be, it was fitting and lived up to my expectations. Of course, I wasn't expecting them to finally arrive a at a happy ending and randomly die, but the series is called Requiem for the Phantom for a reason. One can assume that the pair had died a long time ago, hence the title of phantom was given to them and had their memories erased. In the end, they just get killed, and fade away with a smile, having arrived at a satisfactory conclusion. The ending isn't depressing at all in my opinion, it's simply interpreted the wrong way. If the phantoms had not disappeared, then the theme of the anime would be utterly crushed |
| Ugh, I had a feeling something bad was gonna happen as soon as they first showed the guy in the wagon. Kind of an unexpected ending, but definitely fitting. Reiji's lived a pretty fulfilled life and helped Elen live out her dreams, so in the end it's appropriate that he somehow atones for all his other sins. Assassins live short lives. As for whether Elen died or not, she's as good as dead with Reiji gone. Oh, and it would seem that the inverse ninja law applies very much to Phantoms...I thought that was a bit cheap. Elen's fight was animated very nicely though. Overall I think this was a pretty flawed series, as it made lots of questionable story decisions, and many characters were lacking in thorough development (or were just developed in a pretty stupid way). In any case though, it was a highly enjoyable series for me, and I especially liked the Darker than Black vibes given off here and there. 8/10 |
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| I'm not really happy with this anime. I think it could've been executed better. The ending annoyed me. |
| @furor guy that was driving cart was most likely assasain sent by Inferno boss. But yeah 9/10 even though ending was rly sad D: |
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| ok just gonna pretend that ending never happened.... still an excelent anime :D |
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