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zeroj said: In the end, I liked how it began, but I believe they should've handled the war differently, much more slow paced. If only this season have at least 36 episodes instead of 26 just for rushing to Index NT/IV............ |
KiLLZONE15JYU said: Tiau said: I think the PS I put there was wrong because of a friend who told me was exaggerating. I wish this anime adaptation never happened because it was too much. I will stop reading the light novel because I have no time to do this. It's best to let this series go for me because the anime industry doesn't work for me. Everyone who loves this series was expecting something great but the comments against the director was bad from the west and Japanese which shows that the director is not coming back or maybe. Sorry I think I will drop the LN series for now and quit expecting anything good that comes from this.You do know Index is a lot bigger than Index 3 yes? Not only counting the anime theres several spinoffs and even the games haven't lost any steam whatsoever. Also your little P.S is already confirmed to be misinformation designed to cause inflammatory. I think you missed my point entirely here. Also, there's absolutely no way they will reboot Index, there would've been no point in attempting to force Nishikori and Yoshino to finish up OT with 24 episodes if they're just gonna restart at OT1 instead of moving on to NT1 which is being shilled. I know what you feel but you decide to drops Index LNs just because of terrible adaptation is kinda silly to me. You could just stop watching the anime adaptation and pretends it doesn't exists instead. |
KiLLZONE15JYU said: That's a pretty bold claim. Everyone who loves this series was expecting something great |
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| In my opinion, the only big problem of this season is the lack of good climax. Important parts felt like fillers and nothing made me want to absolutely watch the next episode. That said, I like the franchise and the story alone is worth 20 minutes of my week. To me, Railgun has always felt more interesting than Index. Past 2 Index seasons didn't feel much better than this. |
| Is it really that bad??? i was thinking of binge watching this new season but have now 2nd thoughts after seeing the bad rating.... |
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| As someone who's been following the series and reading the LN (up to the end of season 2), I think this was a good enough, but fairly disappointing season. Ignoring the issue of artwork which was unimpressive enough, I thought the general execution was just awful. Everything felt rushed. Things that should've been explained was just brushed over. Essentially to enjoy this season you had to just stop thinking altogether. Still, I consider Index to be a quality franchise and would like to see season 4 announced sometime. Hope it happens sooner than later. |
Shodowdragonclaw said: 10/10 A lot of people don't seem to understand just how phenomenal this season was. It's getting a lot of undeserved hate for no reason. ............... Did you even read the discussion posts on every episodes threads? I'm pretty sure a lot of people included myself has pointed out a lot of problems and flaws about this season. |
MahiaErebeaNegi said: ............... Did you even read the discussion posts on every episodes threads? I'm pretty sure a lot of people included myself has pointed out a lot of problems and flaws about this season. Most of problems is from nolife peoples whose reads ALL manga, that didn't like anime at all. I didn't read manga, lights novel or anything related to this story. For me Anime was good 7/10 because it gives too much information at one episode each. This anime for me should have at least 52 episodes. But aside of that the anime have great battles. From the ending I assume it will be next season. From watching this Anime and Domestic na Kanojo I saw that reviews was made by some nolife mango lovers who didn't want tho enjoy Anime in the first place. BUT most peoples enjoys watching anime without knowing all about adaption. |
czapla43Apr 26, 2019 7:31 AM
czapla43 said: From watching this Anime and Domestic na Kanojo I saw that reviews was made by some nolife mango lovers who didn't want tho enjoy Anime in the first place. BUT most peoples enjoys watching anime without knowing all about adaption. Are you sure about that? Because from what I see, most of anime-only fans was also complaints about this season too due to the story was so rushed that they can't understand what's this season was telling most of the time. Glad that you still able to enjoys this season despite it's issues, though. |
| Yep some of them have in my opinion to much expectations in character development, but when i remember first and second seasons there wasn't any character development in the ANY of them. Yes story was rushed but IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN SINCE FIRST SEASON! For me this anime is about battle, and I enjoyed it. For the reviewers 3 of the 4 on the main page stated that they know story from manga or LN(they have skyrocketing expectations because they know a full story). The same thing is in this topic most of them knows story(first page of this topic should have big title ADAPTATION!). Only a few peoples who doesn't knows story have very op expectations for this anime. |
czapla43Apr 26, 2019 10:05 AM
| what the fuck Accelerator do? all I can see is he turn into some angelic looks and fly to the flying fortress and spread some godly light. what is this about? what is he really do? can someone explained to me? and what purpose the original Misaka comes there? only to save Touma? |
Abyhape said: He saved Earth from a magic laser coming down from the heavens.what the fuck Accelerator do? all I can see is he turn into some angelic looks and fly to the flying fortress and spread some godly light. what is this about? what is he really do? can someone explained to me? and what purpose the original Misaka comes there? only to save Touma? |
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czapla43 said: MahiaErebeaNegi said: ............... Did you even read the discussion posts on every episodes threads? I'm pretty sure a lot of people included myself has pointed out a lot of problems and flaws about this season. Most of problems is from nolife peoples whose reads ALL manga, that didn't like anime at all. I didn't read manga, lights novel or anything related to this story. For me Anime was good 7/10 because it gives too much information at one episode each. This anime for me should have at least 52 episodes. But aside of that the anime have great battles. From the ending I assume it will be next season. From watching this Anime and Domestic na Kanojo I saw that reviews was made by some nolife mango lovers who didn't want tho enjoy Anime in the first place. BUT most peoples enjoys watching anime without knowing all about adaption. Nolife mango lover here. At least I have common sense and dont like shit being shoved to my face like retards like you love so much. Just because you love watching animated colors with little to no context doesnt mean all anime should be reduced to animated pictures made by a 5 year old. Also, proof that you dont even pay attention, seasons 1 and 2 had development for their characters.Namely Accelerator, Kuroko, Misaka. Here they just do things for whatever reason. So I AM SO SORRY that I didnt like any of the shit in s3. Oh and btw I watched the first two seasons before I read the "mango" and even now I like them. But this is trash.Just because you dont want to use your brain doesnt mean we HAVE to like it. |
ssjokg said: But this is trash.Just because you don't want to use your brain doesn't mean we HAVE to like it. I'm glad that you use brain describing why you don't like this anime but still you are an idiot because you CAN stop watching it after a few episodes if you don't like it. As mentioned above this is still in my opinion good and watchable anime and it doesn't deserve "3/10 is trash" without any elaborate thoughts. |
czapla43 said: ssjokg said: But this is trash.Just because you don't want to use your brain doesn't mean we HAVE to like it. I'm glad that you use brain describing why you don't like this anime but still you are an idiot because you CAN stop watching it after a few episodes if you don't like it. As mentioned above this is still in my opinion good and watchable anime and it doesn't deserve "3/10 is trash" without any elaborate thoughts. Do you even read what you type? You want elaborate thoughts on why we think it is trash then you tell me to stop watching it. Ofc I will watch it till the end in order to know what is so wrong. And me and many others, whether we read the LN, have already posted our thoughts, here or in the reviews. Now, if your dead brain can't accept that a show is trash when nothing in it makes sense, it is your problem.Or maybe you are the lucky one who can enjoy whatever shit they throw at him. |
ssjokg said: Ofc I will watch it till the end in order to know what is so wrong. And me and many others, whether we read the LN, have already posted our thoughts, here or in the reviews. And most of them is about rushed story, or related to story. Only a few stated that they don't like battle or animation. I still don't thing is good idea to rate anime like this: 70% - story (rushed, don't know who is who, not good use of source material = 0 ) 15% - animation (yee something on my screen 1,5) 15% - music (yee i hear something 1,5) Overall Score 3 You are lucky one if you use your "dead brain" for mostly reading manga or watching anime. |
| That is a nice "out of your ass" percentage. And yes if we feel the story is so rushed that nothing makes sense it will get a 0. Better thank giving a 10 to everything. |
| I thought this was OPM2 discussion threads when I read the latest comments lol. |
| Cuz is the same theme. As Bangman said: Bangman said: What i learned from this discussion "you can't change a hater mind" let them hate & Enjoy by what you love MAL is great place to make and use list of anime and manga, but it's the last place to read reviews, because of that haters. I'm glad that i didn't listen them, to not watch that and others anime. For others who aren't sure if you should watch it - try a few episodes, if you don't like it then DROP IT(don't be a hero when you feel is this waste of your time). |
czapla43Apr 29, 2019 3:58 AM
| "haters" you realize that what you call haters is the fans of the LN and the anime ( s1 and s2), they aren't haters lol and people stated many times several reasons why they don't like this season even the anime-only(s?) don't like this season. |
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Eugenefindit said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: yeah , it's just sad that the main series gets this treatment while the side stories get a better treatment , even accel anime looks better than index 3 . I am 4 episodes away from completion. And to be perfectly honest, as much as as I agree that this is the worst season thus far, after seeing the horrible trainwreck which was Tokyo Ghoul: Re, I just cannot bring myself hate this anime. For one, this anime is still WATCHABLE without needing the source material. And two, this season was still for the most part, possible to follow through on what is going on. Of course, this season was indeed very rushed in several parts, particularly anything focusing on Accelerator and the gang in Academy City, like yo slow the heck down. And also the Britain arc could have used an entire half a season or more. I have no objection against people's request for a reboot of this franchise at all. I definitely agree that it deserved better. But I am just surprised that I was still able to have fun watching Season 3 as much as I did. The Russian arc especially is probably my favourite. well, the Russian arc ( WWIII) is considered one of the best arcs in the series so when you make it barely enjoyable or watchable of course the fans gonna hate it, this was supposed to be the best season so far but NO. and ofc many people aren't gonna find it even enjoyable. |
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czapla43 said: Cuz is the same theme. As Bangman said: Bangman said: What i learned from this discussion "you can't change a hater mind" let them hate & Enjoy by what you love MAL is great place to make and use list of anime and manga, but it's the last place to read reviews, because of that haters. I'm glad that i didn't listen them, to not watch that and others anime. For others who aren't sure if you should watch it - try a few episodes, if you don't like it then DROP IT(don't be a hero when you feel is this waste of your time). How does it feel to have such a small brain that any people you see disliking something, with legitimate reasons, in your eyes are haters? |
Tsukumo_Yuuma said: "haters" you realize that what you call haters is the fans of the LN and the anime ( s1 and s2), they aren't haters lol and people stated many times several reasons why they don't like this season even the anime-only(s?) don't like this season. According to what he said in previous comments, most of the "haters" who hated this season are blinded by nostalgic to the LNs, "mango" and first two seasons (Even though it's not) and have too high expectations for this (anime) series lol. |
MahiaErebeaNegiApr 29, 2019 5:39 AM
| As I said before: czapla43 said: For the reviewers 3 of the 4 on the main page stated that they know story from manga or LN(they have skyrocketing expectations because they know a full story). Most of peoples are simple minded they see "3/10" "it's trash" "wasted time" they won't bother even trying watching or looking why they shouldn't. ssjokg said: How does it feel to have such a small brain that any people you see disliking something, with legitimate reasons, in your eyes are haters? Definition of hater: A person who greatly dislikes a specified person or thing. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/hater You hate something and you WASTING your time trying to deny that there is some peoples who likes it? CLAP CLAP I won't write anything more because for me this anime was good and I don't think it deserve that low rating (3/10) only because of story. |
czapla43 said: Definition of hater: A person who greatly dislikes a specified person or thing. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/hater You hate something and you WASTING your time trying to deny that there is some peoples who likes it? CLAP CLAP I won't write anything more because for me this anime was good and I don't think it deserve that low rating (3/10) only because of story. Then you should start using that definition since you claimed that haters are the ones hating it without reason.But I shouldnt expect that from simple minded fools that badmouth others for not liking an adaptation of their fav Ln or "mango". Also, I am not denying that some people like it.I find hard to understand what they CAN like about this trash but I dont deny they exist. You on the other hand deny US of our right to claim that this shit is TRASH. And I am sorry but if a series or movie doesnt deserve a low rating because of the story then EVERYTHING except Aku no Hana should be 10/10. But you see animation doesnt save a series.Especially non existent animation that is WORSE than the one in the same series 8 fucking years ago.Or 5 years ago if we count Railgun S that looked beautiful in every fucking scene. |
czapla43 said: Except the story wasn't the only issue so stop pretending people were only shitting on the story.I won't write anything more because for me this anime was good and I don't think it deserve that low rating (3/10) only because of story. The animation was trash most of the time, for one thing, and so many people complained about that. I actually had to defend this season's animation when people compared it to the previous 2 and said the old ones were way better, for crying out loud. Without good animation and/or storytelling the battles have no meaning and aren't exciting. So, aside from music and sound design there isn't really much doing this anime favors. |
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| nice ending, misaka thinks Touma died Acc became angel and villains survived alistars attack and plot thickens 8/10 |
Sceles said: Finally I managed to finish this show. I have never seen any kind of source material being butchered in this manner. From every single scene it was obvious that they tried to pack too much content in one season. And it's a real shame, because it seemed like the source material was really good. To Aru is one of my favorite anime franchises but even then I can't bring myself to give this show more than 4/10. And I want a redo. Not a new season, a redo. I almost feel bad for the guy who directed this thing. You can't fuck up a top selling franchise this hard without there being consequences. The dude's propably been demoted to a janitor by now. I think UQ Holder! and non-existence Tsukihime anime suffers much worse fate (Covered 60 episodes worth of contents into just 12 episodes) than Index III lol. Nishikiori (The director guy) still need to take some blame on this because despite he know that this season will be rushed as hell, he still managed to keep almost every unnecessary fan-service scenes untouched, while skipped a lot of contents/explanations that will become important in the later story. Aside those, I agreed with every you just said here. |
| With your logic there is no bad adaptation. Do you know what context is?Tone?Focus?Character development or even character establishment?Urgency?How about proper flow of events?Or consistency with established lore from 2 previous seasons from 2 different series?Oh they kept the "important stuff"?Animating the big moments without any explanation whatsoever WHY that is even happening or how it changes characters is a big fucking problem. Oh gee that Accelerator vs Touma fight was so cool(that is a lie) too bad Accelerator had no characterization for his desire to be the "worst villain". How can you still deny that this season was bad? And waiting years for explanation about stuff that should have been clear NOW is retarded. |
| >But you really don't much need to understand why Accelerator, even back before he even met Last Order called himself a villain, what he did to the sisters no doubt had a huge effect on him, of course he thinks he's beyond redemption(and to some people, he is) Yes we dont need to understand a MC. Also bullshit.Outright explained and having an idea are 2 different things.Here none of that happens.He just does and says stuff and you cant even read between the lines. There is nothing. >Also, for someone with huge distaste for this season you sure as hell stick around in these threads, I haven't even been here for months because I've been doing other things like keeping up with the other source material and games. I don't usually have time to dig deep and answer your question in the source, because more often than not it isn't even the fault of Index 3 if you're wondering this shit. I love the franchise and hate this season.Do I need your permission and to have the same opinion you do for the quality of this season to say anything? And plz dont act as if you have refuted anybody's claims about what is wrong with s3. >NT2 serves a purpose, one that can be easily used. You shouldnt need a recap to understand shit that should have been in the 26 previous ep. You know what could easily be used?The time they would gain if this "recap" was omitted. |
| >I didn't say you don't need to understand a MC. I said its pretty easy to understand why Accelerator calls himself a villain Yes it is "pretty easy" especially when in the last season he at least had the villain aspect toned down when interacting with random people. In s3 he goes from one liner about villainy to another one liner about villainy regardless of who he is talking to. >infact most people are quite satisfied with Accelerator's character arc IN this season Wrong.They are happy that he saved LO.That isnt character arc, it is a goal and it was clear.His inner struggle is nowhere in the season.Oh except the fight with Touma but his thoughts seem to come out of nowhere. >considering not many people forgets what he did in his first appearance Oh yes I am sure./s > both Railgun S and Index 1/2 pretty much address his mental state. His mental state is pretty fucking different after he is beaten by Touma and after September 30th.You could even say that it changes slightly again after killing Komaba. >the stuff prior to this does indirectly Except that no, it isnt just there. >NT2 should be cut Sigh, it shouldnt be used as a recap.Not be removed entirely. >Do you actually read the source? Did you actually watch the season?Did you even read anything anime only people said? |
ssjokg said: >Do you actually read the source? Did you actually watch the season?Did you even read anything anime only people said? I know this has nothing to do with me but I'm pretty sure Tiau will said something like this based on his previous comments: "Most of these anime-only don't even remember anything about previous seasons and they don't even bother to rewatch it, so it's not surprising that they will complaint about anything. It was their own fault for not understanding anything about Index III even though x staffs was already explained in previous seasons." |
MahiaErebeaNegiMay 23, 2019 1:59 AM
MahiaErebeaNegi said: ssjokg said: >Do you actually read the source? Did you actually watch the season?Did you even read anything anime only people said? I know this has nothing to do with me but I'm pretty sure Tiau will said something like this based on his previous comments: "Most of these anime-only don't even remember anything about previous seasons and they don't even bother to rewatch it, so it's not surprising that they will complaint about anything. It was their own fault for not understanding anything about Index III even though x staffs was already explained in previous seasons." Too bad that remembering who Sasha is or 80% of what people complain about doesnt really help. Sure people not remembering that Touma has amnesia is...quite irritating, but that is hardly a reason to dismiss all of them. The whole Pope and Vasilisa "subplots" could be removed from the anime and nothing would be lost.Hell it would be two things less for the viewers to think about so that would help. |
| >I can definitely point out some animeonlys I can point to more that didntget shit.Sure there is struggle.But why?And how does Accel approach all of that before facing Touma in Russia? >seriously most of the reviews are either about him or Misaka. This should already tell you how bad all of those are. >It's when they forget people like Vento or Misha is thats a big problem I think, or Kazakiri who was in EVERY FINALE Misha is forgettable and you cant fault them for that.Whatever was animated from Angel Fall was back in S1 and nothing from there(Anime) helps in S3. Vento and Kazakiri are a problem yes,but both appear only at the final arc of the series. And their stories still dont answer why things ended up like that. >Tsuchimikado and Kanzaki This is as bad a the amnesia one but not many are confused about them. >OT14 Was ok , except from Tsuchimikado's scenes vs the power armors which honestly should have been cut. >he's a good character that season 2 didn't really give him a whole lot. And neither did this season.Where is his struggle with how him and Lola/Laura approach their believers?Unless i forgot that was animated.... He is received well because he ended up not being the typical authority figure that doesnt understand anything. >As for Vasilisa.... some animeonlys who remember her What did she do in S2 again? |
| >"More" I do kinda find hard to believe, I mean the reddit threads have 100+ comments in them, how many more people on MAL is there than two separate reddit pages and a discord? I don't really know why you don't like giving credit where its due, they did good for Accelerator, even the guys on those god forsaken facebook pages can agree on that Accelerator could be standing in the corner looking menacing and everyone would still love him. Look at the Accelerator manga.Most of it is boring af but when he actually has a role it is enough even if he doesnt do anything new. >Honestly? I don't really think so as Misha's design and speech habits was fairly unique and left a image on me when I first watched through the series before reading the novels myself and she's apart of a arc people remember because of bodyswap memes(but of course, they only remember the cousin who took the appearance of Mikoto and Aogami Index I guess), that being said Misha and her appearance in S1 is one of the direct reasons for stuff in S3 Did it take you 8+ years to read the novels?I dont think so. >but Kazakiri appears in both season 1 and season 2, I really can't excuse it. Except that apart from appearing and fighting in the end, her role is nonexistent. From the AC invasion arc only LO's condition matters in the S3 anime. Artificial Angels and all that dont matter after that. >But his approach to his followers and his genuine distaste to the whole war thing and trying to kill a 16 year old boy and even giving his body to protect his people was all animated yeah. Except that in S2 he literally went to war with AC with the Adriatic Fleet, and then ordered the death of Kamijou Touma after Biagio(and the fleet) was defeated. It doesnt matter that it was GRS that asked him to do that.He still complied. S3 could have shown what he thinks about how close he is to his followers and how he views Lola.But no.Now we have two different portrayals of the same character. >Vasilisa was trying to make Sasha wear the magical girl outfit, so her scene from...SS1 was it? This isnt something that leaves an impression of importance.That she is remembered as a joke isnt good. And that one scene definitely doesnt help in her portrayal in s3. |
| >Are you implying that I read the novels right after Index 2? You'd be mistaken if so. Did it take you enough time to forget something that was in the anime? >And actually, people who like Accelerator from what I've seen are actually shitting on the manga, that isn't really much of an point to bring up, you should really frequent the western Index communities for sure, people are actually praising the Accelerator anime because it actually looks interesting unlike the manga. Did you read what I said? >And just because you personally feel her role isn't important(it really is, you should really think about what creating an artificial heaven really means here.) doesn't mean I can say its okay to forget a character who's been apart of 3 season finales now. Her role in the LN and in anime is totally different. And you should realize that some characters dont ake much impact to remember them after 8 years.And she did nothing in S2 till she was saved so... >As for the Adriatic Fleet, that was a reaction to Academy City being at fault for several things happening to the church prior, it took all that to finally approve the weapon to be changed. Would many innocents die?Yes.Dont sugarcoat his decisions. >He's doing what he thought was right the entire time, technically speaking he has never said Touma should be killed outright. Remember the witch hunts where the only way to prove you arent a witch is to die?Same thing.They already had decided that he would be an enemy of god. >You should also keep in mind that the other plan(Lidvia's plan) was actually one to prevent war by converting all of Academy City(by force I admit). Didnt mention her. >some people definitely was wondering who this person is with a girl who looked like Misha. And I am saying that doesnt help remember who she is or what her role is. >Second post Destroying a city of a few millions "quickly" isnt any better. How about dealing with those zealots.Oh right that would be bad for the Church. |
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