Goblin Slayer (light novel)
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But how the first goblin was born in this case? xD |
| I kinda hate when a show gets labeled as being "gory" when all it ever shows is blood splatters. Gore is brains and intestines plopping on the floor. Goblin Slayer is NOT gory. |
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how was the first organism born in this world? evolution and degradation. in this case it's just fiction |
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| In all fairness Goblin Slayer is a lot more gore-y in the source material. I guess the anime just watered it down a bit. |
SNDT said: Samoan said: it had to be a cute girl with big boobs it just for fanservice. Or no one gonna wach this shit Exactly. Remove rape from this anime and what we get in the end? We all know the answer. why are you so salty about rape? if you don't like it just drop it, nobody's forcing you to watch this. you keyboard warrior thing wont change anything whatsoever |
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ChyllyWylly said: Cause this always happens to adventurers who are low level. High-level adventurers don't bother with goblins. So, everyone chalks it up to the low level adventurers being incompetent, and not to the goblins' strength or smarts or whatever. Also, that last line you mentioned also says 'rookie adventurers getting annihilated'. Key word here is rookie. You forget that this is an adventurer's guild, not a united force or an army. They are not affiliated with anyone but themselves. It's every person for himself. So, no one's gonna care if newbie parties get annihilated by some goblins.So, why do they not know this? It's established at the end of the episode that this happens all the time, the line is straight up 'they say it's a common occurrence', everything that just happened. How does the world view goblins as nonthreatening if this is common? Shouldn't everyone know that goblins do this? Shouldn't goblins be considered a higher tier threat? Are these people all just stupid? If they're just stupid, why should I care? The line from early in the episode feels like it's playing with the audience's expectations, but as someone who lives in this world, the characters should know they're not low level threats. It feels like an internal contradiction. |
joe_g7Oct 7, 2018 12:08 PM
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| 2018 and people are still getting their panties in a bunch over fictional content. |
| We're the same. Nuisances with nowhere to go. |
Jigsy said: 2018 and people are still getting their panties in a bunch over fictional content. I actually had a chuckle over this. Mostly because.. 2018 is the exact year when people started getting their panties in a bunch over everything. Shit was a lot less controversial back in the early 2000s. |
| well this show is definitely gonna be popular because of the messed up rape scenes n general darkness damn wtf |
SNDT said: uninstallthegame said: why are you so salty about rape? if you don't like it just drop it, nobody's forcing you to watch this. you keyboard warrior thing wont change anything whatsoever Because people are trying to convince me that rape is not the only reason for its high popularity and show can offer something else. it does offer something else, but i highly recommend you to just drop it. for real, if you're going in negative already, you're not gonna enjoy it later on. and there is no point in just watching for the sake of hate, is there? |
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| Oh shit they didn't waste anytime of getting into the climatic stuff, 4 novices decided to go goblin hunting, one got to cocky and paid a terrible price, another one thought that she only dealing with kiddie goblins not expecting a higher level got stabbed and raped or so I thought, since she was alive but only broken by all that banging, Only the novice priestess was lucky since a veteran came in time to save her. |
| I'll just go through the points one by one cause there were many questions and giving answers to all of them one after the other felt too confusing. ChyllyWylly said: Because there's a constant flow of new adventurers, and if a lair grows too big, multiple high-level groups are hired to take care of the problem.If low level adventurers are constantly being wiped out, and high level adventurers are ignoring them, how has the whole country not fallen to the unstoppable, always growing goblin hordes? Are the high level adventurers ignoring entire villages being razed and raped? I told you already. Most of them are mercenaries. If there's no good reward, they won't move a finger. They're not the good samaritan army. They're people who are in it for the gold.If some low level adventurers are surviving to tell the tale, how are goblins not being considered a greater threat? I answered this question earlier. Please pay more attention: No high-level adventurer is gonna give any attention to a rookie who got annihilated by goblins. They just chalk it up to the low-level adventurers' being too weak and/or unprepared. If you got beaten by a group of kids and then went to people warning them about some kids who beat you up, you think anyone would listen? They'd laugh at you. I admit, it's not a 1-on-1 comparison, but it serves the point I'm trying to make.Entire villages are being destroyed and that's being left to rookies, what's a high level threat in this world? Are there dragons constantly besieging castles that no one can spare any time from? I don't know where you got that impression from. Also, dragons are a different story from goblins.That goblins are razing villages and no one cares while they slaughter the people who go after them makes me feel like this world is made of stupid people and needs to get wiped out. No one said anything about goblins being allowed to raze villages. There's even a part in the story later on where multiple groups are hired to deal with a goblin horde that is getting ready to attack a village. |
joe_g7Oct 7, 2018 1:53 PM
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
IZEROII said: YizelTro said: HOW THE F IS THIS A 13 RATING SERIES ?! Totally. This is why youth of today is largely morally fucked up because they aren't adults, with no real life experience, and exposed to fairly explicit and traumatic scenes with the context of "entertainment". And it's irrelevant when it's timed to air with the ability to download, stream, and/or record. Same concept of every child-teen getting a M rated game the day it drops... Anywho...it was an interesting start. Brutal and violent. A little hard to watch as I don't like rape scenes but I like the honest brutality of this spin on the adventurer genre. and what i was really saying that MAL is supporting kids under 17 age to watch this kind of show ? im not surprised any more if anime is becoming more and more of a bad image in public. this site is one of the biggest anime site in the internet today so please man,fix that age rating. it's like kids under 17 "can i watch this anime ?" MAL "yes you can. it's for people under 17 year old age show" |
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GemTastical said: Jigsy said: 2018 and people are still getting their panties in a bunch over fictional content. I actually had a chuckle over this. Mostly because.. 2018 is the exact year when people started getting their panties in a bunch over everything. Shit was a lot less controversial back in the early 2000s. the '00s were the easier days. i still find stuff on youtube that was popular acceptable or funny back then, but would be considered highly offensive and abusive nowadays. and i'm not saying rape was acceptable back then or it is acceptable in general, people just knew how to distinguish fiction from reality. nowadays people would say something like "oh so you have female characters in there just to be raped? ok, you misogynistic pricks!" now people seem to search for offensive subtext in fiction, art or comedy that didn't even intended to have one |
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SNDT said: uninstallthegame said: it does offer something else, but i highly recommend you to just drop it. for real, if you're going in negative already, you're not gonna enjoy it later on. and there is no point in just watching for the sake of hate, is there? I'll drop it if you admit that i'm right xD why would i do that? how will you even benefit from that? by boosting your ego? if you don't wanna drop it, then sit back and enjoy hate bandwagon as you're doing it now i've read the manga, so i know what i'm talking about, why the stuff happened so and what to expect. and you just watched the first episode and hate it. you see the difference here? |
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SNDT said: Because people are trying to convince me that rape is not the only reason for its high popularity and show can offer something else. Goblin Slayer is a story about a damaged, yet selfless hero protecting people (especially women), from horrible, disgusting little monsters in a world that treats Goblins as a minor threat unworthy of attention from proud warriors. It might not be an incredibly deep story but it's satisfying on many levels. |
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KaeUBW said: MrMushin said: Dude, it's a tv series, not some denpa visual novel even a school kid should be able to handle it. And I didn't say I couldn't handle the violence, I said it's overdone. I just think they are trying way too much to make the the viewer feel uncomfortable, it's just a really bad tragedy writing in my opinion, but I guess they wanted to build up tohe protagonist character instead. I didn't get uncomfortable in the least watching the episode. So again, if you get uncomfortable watching this is because you're can't handle it very well. The violence will continue, that's why i said you're not going to enjoy the rest of the anime. Also, i don't think the violence was overdone here. This is a clear dark themed anime and the violence fitted perfectly... I want to see violence in an anime like this. Berserk is very violent too, Gantz is very violent too and so many other animes. People who goes after those titles want to see the violence that it has so the violence is not overdone...just some people can't handle it. I respect your opinion, this is just mine. I never experienced Gantz but I did experience Berserk and the 90's tv adaption is actually one of my favorite shows. Like I said, it's not that the violence made me feel uncomfortable because it's violence, it's only that there was absolutely no reason for there to be so much violence basing on the first episode, Berserk has violence because the tragedy, that's why it makes sense, it has Guts, Griffith and Casca's characters explored and fully revealed through the climax tragedy, and for a tragedy like that to be effective, violence is necessary. In Goblin Slayer, they literally have random characters the audience simply do not care about get violated, I didn't feel nothing while watching it happens, that's what I meant and that's why I do not agree at all that it "fits perfectly". Like, do you really enjoy violence shows, just because they have violence? Sorry, but that I really can't understand. I am not going to drop it, it's no like I hate it or something, in my original post I said that I liked some stuff about this episode, it's just that the series is overall a bit questionable for me. basing on the first episode of course. |
MrMushinOct 7, 2018 1:03 PM
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| Holy brutality! Hmm, I think I'm going to wait for the BD's, just in case they add some more stuff. |
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MrMushin said: I respect your opinion, this is just mine. I never experienced Gantz but I did experience Berserk and the 90's tv adaption is actually one of my favorite shows. Like I said, it's not that the violence made me feel uncomfortable because it's violence, it's only that there was absolutely no reason for there to be so much violence basing on the first episode, Berserk has violence because the tragedy, that's why it makes sense, it has Guts, Griffith and Casca's characters explored and fully revealed through the climax tragedy, and for a tragedy like that to be effective, violence is necessary. In Goblin Slayer, they literally have random characters the audience simply do not care about get violated, I didn't feel nothing while watching it happens, that's what I meant. Maybe "uncomfortable" wasn't a good word. I am not going to drop it, it's no like I hate it or something, in my original post I said that I liked some stuff about this episode, it's just that the series is overall a bit questionable for me. basing on the first episode of course. The deaths and torment of the overconfident band of adventurers tells you a lot about the world these characters live in and that the threat the goblins present is underestimated by the adventurers guild. |
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epidemia78 said: Goblin Slayer is a story about a damaged, yet selfless hero protecting people (especially women), from horrible, disgusting little monsters in a world that treats Goblins as a minor threat unworthy of attention from proud warriors. It might not be an incredibly deep story but it's satisfying on many levels. That description sounds really good, I'm so unsure about dropping it or not, I don't particularly like gore / dark / edgy media but if it is engaging I guess I could give it a fair try. Hated the CG tho. |
| Wow I'm surprised! They didn't really censor goblin slayer at all! It was just as brutal as the manga! The only thing the anime is missing is death metal. Great first episode, but this anime is not for the faint of heart. |
KanameYuuki said: epidemia78 said: Goblin Slayer is a story about a damaged, yet selfless hero protecting people (especially women), from horrible, disgusting little monsters in a world that treats Goblins as a minor threat unworthy of attention from proud warriors. It might not be an incredibly deep story but it's satisfying on many levels. That description sounds really good, I'm so unsure about dropping it or not, I don't particularly like gore / dark / edgy media but if it is engaging I guess I could give it a fair try. Hated the CG tho. I'd like to expand on epidemia's quote to give you a more.. complete picture on goblin slayer? I'll try to avoid outright spoilers but try to paint it as vividly as possible. The main premise of Goblin Slayer is essentially this. Fantasy world. And all the mythical elements that come with it. The world is rife with beasts and catastrophes of all sorts. And, in order to protect the populace, guilds and such exist which employ warriors to deal with these threats. There are tiers to which these threats are considered important enough to warrant intervention or not. Most adventurers take on stuff like dragons, golems, demons, etc. The kind of monsters that could bring an entire kingdom to ruin if left alone for more than a few seconds. Goblins are.. essentially at the bottom of the rung. They're nobodies to most seasoned adventurers. They're pests, annoyin to deal with and the rewards offered for killing them are so pathetically low that most of them don't even bother. They're not worth the effort they say. Which is actually one of the most common things in any fantasy series. No one wants to grind on low level enemies and make peanuts off of it. The thing about goblins though, is that unlike any other dangerous race in this series, they're.. overpopulated. Their numbers are so staggeringly ridiculous that it's almost impossible to take two steps anywhere in the wilderness and not find yourself up to your neck in goblin dong. And they use women of other species to mate and propagate their own. At explosive speeds. So they're a constantly renewing nest of pests. Pests that, to the average adventurer, are more of an annoyance than anything. And this is where the main plot comes in. Well, it comes in during a specific arc later on, but it's not hard to figure out on your own. All the adventurers are off killing dragons and world ending beasts. Goblin Slayer asks.. Okay, but what about the Goblins? That might sound.. REALLY stupid. (And to an extent it KIND of is? Narratively anyway.) but in the context of the series, it is an entirely valid question. What ABOUT the goblins? What happens when all the adventurers are off fighting off grand beasts? What happens when the countless villages, full of people who can't defend themselves worth shit, are left to their own devices? In a world where Goblins are in sheer excess and NO ONE wants to deal with them. That is the premise of Goblin Slayer. It gives a look into what happens to good, everyday folks when their heroes ignore the little problems. And the severe consequences that come with ignoring a minor problem until it becomes a BIG problem. Goblin Slayer sees 'the bigger picture'. Not really though, since he himself ignores all other monsters to an extent. But he at the very least realizes that hey. GOBLINS ARE ACTUALLY A PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY DEAL WITH THEM. The rape and other stuff are merely shown as further consequences of what happens when you don't nip a problem in the bud. That's basically goblin slayer. Fight goblins because no one else will. Just goblins. Only goblins. |
GemTasticalOct 7, 2018 2:05 PM
MrMushin said: I respect your opinion, this is just mine. I never experienced Gantz but I did experience Berserk and the 90's tv adaption is actually one of my favorite shows. Like I said, it's not that the violence made me feel uncomfortable because it's violence, it's only that there was absolutely no reason for there to be so much violence basing on the first episode, Berserk has violence because the tragedy, that's why it makes sense, it has Guts, Griffith and Casca's characters explored and fully revealed through the climax tragedy, and for a tragedy like that to be effective, violence is necessary. In Goblin Slayer, they literally have random characters the audience simply do not care about get violated, I didn't feel nothing while watching it happens, that's what I meant and that's why I do not agree at all that it "fits perfectly". Like, do you really enjoy violence shows, just because they have violence? Sorry, but that I really can't understand. I am not going to drop it, it's no like I hate it or something, in my original post I said that I liked some stuff about this episode, it's just that the series is overall a bit questionable for me. basing on the first episode of course. It's to set the tone my dude. Not every death has to have meaning. This show is about slaying goblins and the brutality of the world, this is not as complex as Berserk and it doesn't have to be. Not every violent show has to have some deep under lying themes, sometimes it's fun to watch a show that's just brutal with high intensity action that isn't that deep. That's part of the appeal. |
| as I was looking forward to this for some time now and the anime adapted pretty well of the manga/ novel, it still funny to see how they put 13 or older in their Rating tag for anime like Goblin Slayer. |
Alright, like you said I guess I will stick to see where it goes, I could end up liking it or hating it, so all I hope is that it doesn't end up being mediocre, that's honestly a worse offense, >_> looking at you Darling in the FranXX. I'm now ready, I was watching it with the wrong mood, lots of light hearted comedies this season and then a 180 watching this, caught me off guard lol. I felt super bad for the Monk girl, she was a nice person even until the bitter end but was cursed being together with the other two idiots on that party. |
| Went into this completely blind, as I have no familiarity with Goblin Slayer. While the CGI armor looks weird, I have to say I enjoyed how dark the shows tone is. Definitely wasn't expecting a goblin rape scene, Jesus Christ. I wonder how the story will pan out from here. |
| NICE. Finally something darker. Good shiet. Also, be ready to get tons of hentai with rape tag. :DDDD |
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GemTastical said: In a world where Goblins are in sheer excess and NO ONE wants to deal with them. That is the premise of Goblin Slayer. It gives a look into what happens to good, everyday folks when their heroes ignore the little problems. And the severe consequences that come with ignoring a minor problem until it becomes a BIG problem. Goblin Slayer sees 'the bigger picture'. Not really though, since he himself ignores all other monsters to an extent. But he at the very least realizes that hey. GOBLINS ARE ACTUALLY A PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY DEAL WITH THEM. The rape and other stuff are merely shown as further consequences of what happens when you don't nip a problem in the bud. That's basically goblin slayer. Fight goblins because no one else will. Just goblins. Only goblins. This is a very good point, and an important part of the setting that can be easily overlooked. Goblin Slayer goes out of his way to protect the common folk from the goblin threat when nobody else will (because killing goblins and protecting commoners doesn't pay well enough). I would offer though that Goblin Slayer himself didn't make any kind of profound decision to focus solely on goblins because of the "big picture" or anything like that. It's a mix of revenge, hatred, fear, and (very minor spoiler, but tagged anyway) . That also goes to explain why he's so uncompromising on exterminating every one he comes across without exception. |
| Jesus, this gave me some chills watching. The violence, rape, and other things really did set the mood for this anime perfectly, even if it wasn't the most pleasant thing to see. I feel bad for the rest of the party members though. I can't imagine all the trauma that girl is experiencing after getting raped and seeing her party members get killed like that. |
| Could have been better, but still a great episode. I don't understand why people say violence was overdone. One guy gets stabbed to death, 1 girl is poisoned, 1 rape, 1 pees herself. They were overrun and outclassed. None of the violence seems forced. Goblins are savages and act like one. Killing kids wasn't forced either. Story could have been delivered in a slower pace, but they had to fit everything in one, so 8.5/10 for the start I'd say. |
GemTastical said: This was a good comment. I'm glad I read it.KanameYuuki said: That description sounds really good, I'm so unsure about dropping it or not, I don't particularly like gore / dark / edgy media but if it is engaging I guess I could give it a fair try. Hated the CG tho. I'd like to expand on epidemia's quote to give you a more.. complete picture on goblin slayer? I'll try to avoid outright spoilers but try to paint it as vividly as possible. The main premise of Goblin Slayer is essentially this. Fantasy world. And all the mythical elements that come with it. The world is rife with beasts and catastrophes of all sorts. And, in order to protect the populace, guilds and such exist which employ warriors to deal with these threats. There are tiers to which these threats are considered important enough to warrant intervention or not. Most adventurers take on stuff like dragons, golems, demons, etc. The kind of monsters that could bring an entire kingdom to ruin if left alone for more than a few seconds. Goblins are.. essentially at the bottom of the rung. They're nobodies to most seasoned adventurers. They're pests, annoyin to deal with and the rewards offered for killing them are so pathetically low that most of them don't even bother. They're not worth the effort they say. Which is actually one of the most common things in any fantasy series. No one wants to grind on low level enemies and make peanuts off of it. The thing about goblins though, is that unlike any other dangerous race in this series, they're.. overpopulated. Their numbers are so staggeringly ridiculous that it's almost impossible to take two steps anywhere in the wilderness and not find yourself up to your neck in goblin dong. And they use women of other species to mate and propagate their own. At explosive speeds. So they're a constantly renewing nest of pests. Pests that, to the average adventurer, are more of an annoyance than anything. And this is where the main plot comes in. Well, it comes in during a specific arc later on, but it's not hard to figure out on your own. All the adventurers are off killing dragons and world ending beasts. Goblin Slayer asks.. Okay, but what about the Goblins? That might sound.. REALLY stupid. (And to an extent it KIND of is? Narratively anyway.) but in the context of the series, it is an entirely valid question. What ABOUT the goblins? What happens when all the adventurers are off fighting off grand beasts? What happens when the countless villages, full of people who can't defend themselves worth shit, are left to their own devices? In a world where Goblins are in sheer excess and NO ONE wants to deal with them. That is the premise of Goblin Slayer. It gives a look into what happens to good, everyday folks when their heroes ignore the little problems. And the severe consequences that come with ignoring a minor problem until it becomes a BIG problem. Goblin Slayer sees 'the bigger picture'. Not really though, since he himself ignores all other monsters to an extent. But he at the very least realizes that hey. GOBLINS ARE ACTUALLY A PROBLEM AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY DEAL WITH THEM. The rape and other stuff are merely shown as further consequences of what happens when you don't nip a problem in the bud. That's basically goblin slayer. Fight goblins because no one else will. Just goblins. Only goblins. I was thinking the same but seeing someone else's post writing it down avoiding spoilers just feels right. The violence scenes were horrible, there's no avoiding that, but that's the core or the story of that world in particular being brought to life in this anime. This ain't Konosuba. (Exaggerated example but it is the same concept, isn't it?) |
| not bad but it could be a lot better. A cool mmo concept. Im liking the brutality of this show. Production was aight... the constant switch between 2d and CG on the goblins and the goblin slayer was really annoying for me. Will continue watching. Interested to see where this goes. |
GemTastical said: ...make everyone except Goblin Slayer himself feel horribly one dimensional. ...So the manga's no different from the LN. Got it. I don't know if not having those stupid chill scenes is a better idea though... I enjoyed a whopping ONE of those scenes from the LN... Well I might as well invoke the Three Episode Test for this since I'm going to be going to Disney the day after Ep 3 airs anyway. |
Natsuki_HyundaiOct 7, 2018 3:38 PM
HarveyHans said: Priestess' VA actually suits her appearance because she's "15" Preistess is FIFTEEN?! Even in the LNs I always thought she was twelve! Also Asta is fifteen so it doesn't help her case anyway. |
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