| Yaoi was made for horny fujoshis so they can enjoy their sexual fantasies and milk their rotten appetite. It's a shitty genre made for shitty demographic. People in the west take the easy SJW bandwagon and call anyone who disagrees with them a literal sexual nazi supremacist which makes you automatically the shittiest person alive for disliking their favorite genre and of course the other role playing virtue signaling crowd follows behind. |
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| I like both Yaoi and Yuri, I prefer Yaoi more, but I like Yuri also. If you don't like Yaoi/Yuri then that's fine, I don't care... But what really annoys me is when people (predominantly straight men) call Yaoi gross, then I look at their anime lists, and it's packed with Yuri, like that is hypocritical, because you were just bitching about same sex relationships even though you watch anime that involves a same sex couple?! The fuck? Sadly the same thing can be said for stuff in Movies, TV shows, Cartoons, Porno, and Real Life, two men making out is disgusting, but all of a sudden when you see two women pressing their boobs against each other, It's suddenly hot? People call it "Preference" I call it Hypocrisy. Yaoi and Yuri are literally the fucking same, the ONLY difference is that one genre involves two girls, and one genre involves two men. That's the thing that annoys me. |
| It's mainly because of an opinion wherein it's easily disagreeable for the majority so there's that. |
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| It's not being sensitive to tastes, it's being sensitive to homophobic speech disguised as tastes. You can have little to zero interest or even dislike yaoi/yuri as a genre, but if you go out of your way to state how disgusted or grossed out you are, then don't act surprised when you are called out on your shit. |
| The issue here is language. "Yaoi is disgusting" vs "I'm not into Yaoi". When you bring sexuality into any conversation words like hate or disgusting are, of course, going to cause a fight. |
Tsunshine-ChrisNov 8, 2018 3:57 PM
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Ainosense said: yeh listen to psyduckOT: Because they like to waste their time hating. Secret: Watch what you like, ignore what you dislike. And last but not least, ignore others' opinions about your tastes. Kay? Kay. End. listen to fucking psyduck ===========================================OT Bernrika said: the reason for that is they never showed Saki and Maria actually going all out lesbian, while they did show the two boys making out, and it came out of nowhere and unless you are into gay shit, it will put you off.The most obvious example is SSY, where everyone bitched about Satoru and Shun but was OK with Saki and Maria going lesbians. remember its demo, normal straight guys dont wanna watch gay shit |
| I like yuri but find yaoi to be totally disgusting but then I think a lot of straight guys feel the same way. |
| Life Is Short But Intense. |
KuroudoAkabane said: Ainosense said: yeh listen to psyduckOT: Because they like to waste their time hating. Secret: Watch what you like, ignore what you dislike. And last but not least, ignore others' opinions about your tastes. Kay? Kay. End. listen to fucking psyduck ===========================================OT Bernrika said: the reason for that is they never showed Saki and Maria actually going all out lesbian, while they did show the two boys making out, and it came out of nowhere and unless you are into gay shit, it will put you off.The most obvious example is SSY, where everyone bitched about Satoru and Shun but was OK with Saki and Maria going lesbians. remember its demo, normal straight guys dont wanna watch gay shit I must have imagined Maria and Saki making out in the grass, or Maria and Saki naked in bed together later.  This is... an optical illusion? Also maybe straight guys could stop being little bitches. You don't see me throwing chairs because I had to post this imagine. Grow up. |
| but they're not really making out they way the guys were shown, hell even in yer pic, their lips arent even touching |
Bernrika said: believe me, the one thing regular str8 guys "will" bitch abt is worthless gay shit.maybe straight guys could stop being little bitches. You don't see me throwing chairs because I had to post this imagine. |
| yaoi > yuri for me but to each their own |
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KuroudoAkabane said: but they're not really making out they way the guys were shown, hell even in yer pic, their lips arent even touching    Grow up and stop watching sci-fi if you are a low IQ homophobe. |
Bernrika said: KuroudoAkabane said: but they're not really making out they way the guys were shown, hell even in yer pic, their lips arent even touching  made you post lesbian pictures. Bernrika said: BCZ sci-fi is supposed to be full of faggty shit right?Grow up and stop watching sci-fi if you are a low IQ homophobe. only HY iq fags watch yaoi like matrix and steins gate ya? |
KuroudoAkabaneNov 23, 2018 1:09 PM
? I don't mind Yuri. I even read it. BCZ sci-fi is supposed to be full of faggty shit right? It's a genre that often explores a lot of themes and make dozen of social commentaries. As I said, stick to ecchi or something like that, it's more like up your alley and it doesn't violate your safe space. |
| So Yh why is Yuri liked more than Yaoi? Well I think this is probably because of 2 factors and these are: - Yuri just seem to have better writers somehow. I mean Shows like Sailor Moon, Uthena, Miss Kobayashi and the like have Yuri and got praised by the majority while Yuri on Ice is the only one with a gay couple that got a majority praise. In fact almost all of the Yaoi Got described as Fanfiction writing from what I have heard. - Most of us fans are Guys, and Guys tend to get turned on from seeing a girl in heat. |
HeroicIdealism said: Tsunshine-Chris said: The issue here is language. "Yaoi is disgusting" vs "I'm not into Yaoi". When you bring sexuality into any conversation words like hate or disgusting are, of course, going to cause a fight. Because gays get offended over people's disdain for sodomy and promiscuity. Dude, there's some opinions you should better keep to yourself. Because this shit you spread is honestly disgusting. |
| I don't really care about pointless opinions from other people. It's simply a thing of what some likes or not. This goes through all genres. It's like your favorite color. Person A claims black while person B says red. What's good in your eyes can be like trash for someone else and the opposide. Society reacts prudish towads each kind of sexuallity aside the hetero one. still. So it's not unusual that they do overreact about Yuri and Yaoi as disgusting. It's homo love and not even real people. |
𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘨𝘦𝘵 𝘪𝘵 𝘥𝘰 𝘺𝘰𝘶? 𝘐'𝘮 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘶𝘤𝘬 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘺𝘰𝘶. ¡ǝɯ ɥʇᴉʍ ǝɹǝɥ uᴉ ʞɔnʇs ǝɹ,no⅄ |
| I support it, for whatever that's worth. I think that yaoi/yuri specifically tends to functionally be closer to smut and I definitely don't want to be that guy who goes about trying to deprive people of such things through some outrage, even though I'm not really a fan of this sort of thing like, at all. I've gone as far as toss what I can behind it in support of it to the best of my ability when I thought the need rose up, and I'm definitely willing to do so again. If it isn't closer to smut and it turns out I'm wrong in that perception, I'm not going to turn heel and go against it, but I'd probably feel more comfortable leaving other people to put their weight behind that one and just support them passively. "Gay people should be able to be gay" is something I'll always offer said passive support towards, but I also think it's beyond my sphere of ability (and personal interest, to an extent) and I'd rather let them speak for themselves and back the fundamental thing they desire to seek out and establish, being better integration and acceptance. They are more capable of accomplishing that and understanding what exactly they want than I am, and that's fine. |
ManabanNov 25, 2018 6:17 AM
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Ainosense said: thanks you again catain obvious, without you who would know what to do?!OT: Because they like to waste their time hating. Secret: Watch what you like, ignore what you dislike. And last but not least, ignore others' opinions about your tastes. Kay? Kay. End. |
HeroicIdealism said: jal90 said: Dude, there's some opinions you should better keep to yourself. Because this shit you spread is honestly disgusting. I don't understand why being against homosexuality is disgusting. I'm not hating the people who are gay if it is legitimately out of their control, but I am hating the fact that they act on those urges. This thread is about people being sensitive to yuri/yaoi (and yes, yuri/yaoi is strongly related homosexuality whether it is a "realistic" representation or not) so there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to post my thoughts. You're free to post your thoughts, at least in my book. I just think that you're a jackass, and I'm going to say that I think you're a jackass. Also, trying to boil it down to an issue of "I hate them for acting on it, I don't hate them personally" is basically you just calling for them to repress themselves, literally in the middle of a post featuring you complaining about somebody else calling for you to repress what you think and how you feel about such things to a similar way, so I think you're kind of a fucking hypocrite to boot, and most definitely aren't in a position to really begin making it an issue of somebody else telling you to keep quiet about what you want to do and say whenever that's the exact thing you're explicitly calling for going the other direction. |
ManabanNov 25, 2018 6:23 AM
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HeroicIdealism said: jal90 said: Dude, there's some opinions you should better keep to yourself. Because this shit you spread is honestly disgusting. I don't understand why being against homosexuality is disgusting. I'm not hating the people who are gay if it is legitimately out of their control, but I am hating the fact that they act on those urges. This thread is about people being sensitive to yuri/yaoi (and yes, yuri/yaoi is strongly related homosexuality whether it is a "realistic" representation or not) so there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to post my thoughts. You are hating them. You are implicitly saying that they are promiscuous and no matter how much they deny it it's true. This is a stereotype that offends people because it carries a certain social stigma and yet you are worked up because they don't accept it and have issues against it. There are LGBT people in this community who have to read this shit you write. This is not about your bias or your irrational dislike for them or about you personally believing stereotypes, this is about being impolite and an asshole in a public site towards a portion of this community. |
HeroicIdealism said: I have to read shit that attacks my "communities" all the time, ie, my belief in God. I deal with it. LGBT folks can deal with it too. And I don't condone that. But I don't think it justifies you going your way to show the exact same shitty behaviour towards other people. Both are impolite and insensitive as far as I'm concerned. |
| Some people just genuinely don't prefer yaoi just like how I prefer not to watch yuri animes. But there are people who either openly or secretly LOATH the genre and look down on people who like the genre because, surprise surprise, toxic masculinity exists. Also, KockieVanilla said: I like both Yaoi and Yuri, I prefer Yaoi more, but I like Yuri also. If you don't like Yaoi/Yuri then that's fine, I don't care... But what really annoys me is when people (predominantly straight men) call Yaoi gross, then I look at their anime lists, and it's packed with Yuri, like that is hypocritical, because you were just bitching about same sex relationships even though you watch anime that involves a same sex couple?! The fuck? Sadly the same thing can be said for stuff in Movies, TV shows, Cartoons, Porno, and Real Life, two men making out is disgusting, but all of a sudden when you see two women pressing their boobs against each other, It's suddenly hot? People call it "Preference" I call it Hypocrisy. Yaoi and Yuri are literally the fucking same, the ONLY difference is that one genre involves two girls, and one genre involves two men. That's the thing that annoys me. If this is Twitter, I'd RT the shit our of this everytime it came up in my TL. |
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To be perfectly fair I don't like either one of them. I avoid romance anime like the plague in general anyways. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  I personally feel like God put me on this Earth not to condemn degenerate yuri/yaoi but to strive to create Monster Girls in this reality to prove that I am worthy of calling myself a Child of God. To bequeath the greatest gift mankind has ever known upon his loyal sons. |
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Soverign said: To be perfectly fair I don't like either one of them. I avoid romance anime like the plague in general anyways. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I personally feel like God put me on this Earth not to condemn degenerate yuri/yaoi but to strive to create Monster Girls in this reality to prove that I am worthy of calling myself a Child of God. To bequeath the greatest gift mankind has ever known upon his loyal sons. I don't condemn homosexuality just because God indirectly denounced it. I didn't like it even when I was an atheist. I'm pretty sure most people felt uncomfortable with gayness until late 2000's-early 2010's. Social conditioning happens fast. jal90 said: HeroicIdealism said: I have to read shit that attacks my "communities" all the time, ie, my belief in God. I deal with it. LGBT folks can deal with it too. And I don't condone that. But I don't think it justifies you going your way to show the exact same shitty behaviour towards other people. Both are impolite and insensitive as far as I'm concerned. To be honest, I think this is a fair point. I am sympathetic to people who want to be accepting of everyone. But "tolerance of the intolerable" as I call it leaves you being an alien in your own culture. And I already am an "alien" at this point. My beliefs, in many circles, get me called an irrational bigot. When my belief was the standard until a decade ago. |
removed-userNov 25, 2018 7:01 AM
Bernrika said: KuroudoAkabane said: yeh listen to psyduck listen to fucking psyduck ===========================================OT the reason for that is they never showed Saki and Maria actually going all out lesbian, while they did show the two boys making out, and it came out of nowhere and unless you are into gay shit, it will put you off. remember its demo, normal straight guys dont wanna watch gay shit I must have imagined Maria and Saki making out in the grass, or Maria and Saki naked in bed together later. This is... an optical illusion? Also maybe straight guys could stop being little bitches. You don't see me throwing chairs because I had to post this imagine. Grow up. This is why I consider yaoi and yuri fans to be massive hypocrites. |
A lot of people up here dislike yaoi because of its depiction of irl homosexual relationships and I agree. But not every yaoi is Boku no Pico or Dakaretai. A lot of yaoi animes are shit but that's why we need better, healthier stories in both the manga & anime something like Dokyuusei *cough*. If you hate yaoi for its incorrect portrayal of homosexual relationship, I can understand. But if you hate yaoi/yuri without any particular reason other than it depicts male/male relationship, I would've termed it homophobic--male or female both. |
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Neolavender123 said: Some people just genuinely don't prefer yaoi just like how I prefer not to watch yuri animes. But there are people who either openly or secretly LOATH the genre and look down on people who like the genre because, surprise surprise, toxic masculinity exists. Also, KockieVanilla said: I like both Yaoi and Yuri, I prefer Yaoi more, but I like Yuri also. If you don't like Yaoi/Yuri then that's fine, I don't care... But what really annoys me is when people (predominantly straight men) call Yaoi gross, then I look at their anime lists, and it's packed with Yuri, like that is hypocritical, because you were just bitching about same sex relationships even though you watch anime that involves a same sex couple?! The fuck? Sadly the same thing can be said for stuff in Movies, TV shows, Cartoons, Porno, and Real Life, two men making out is disgusting, but all of a sudden when you see two women pressing their boobs against each other, It's suddenly hot? People call it "Preference" I call it Hypocrisy. Yaoi and Yuri are literally the fucking same, the ONLY difference is that one genre involves two girls, and one genre involves two men. That's the thing that annoys me. If this is Twitter, I'd RT the shit our of this everytime it came up in my TL. LOLOL If this were twitter, I'd follow the shit outta you for retweeting my tweet lol |
HeroicIdealism said: To be honest, I think this is a fair point. I am sympathetic to people who want to be accepting of everyone. But "tolerance of the intolerant" as I call it leaves you being an alien in your own culture. And I already am an "alien" at this point. My beliefs, in many circles, get me called an irrational bigot. When my belief was the standard until a decade ago. I do work in a religious institution and am pretty intimately familiar with the bible and Christian spirituality. And I am aware of several of the Bible's teachings, including these: Romans.14:1-4 said: As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. -------------------------- John.8:7 said: And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” -------------------------- Matthew.7:12 said: So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. -------------------------- Titus.3:2 said: To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people. -------------------------- I understand that you've got religious issues with it, and, well, it's hard to call me intolerant of religion, I believe. But make no mistake, this is not the way the teachings of the lord would have you condemn these things. Here, and the way I've seen you go about it in other threads. None of this is truly righteous. Stick beside his teachings. It is his place to judge, not our own, and we must strive to love even those who he himself would condemn. We must be above this eye for an eye mentality you (somewhat) display. We have been legitimately persecuted many, many times before, in ways much worse than anything that this situation you describe amounts to, both by our own and by non-christians alike, and yet our faith has managed to stay strong throughout the fire and the flames. There is no need to be so fearful. |
ManabanNov 25, 2018 7:12 AM
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HeroicIdealism said: With that logic you could go back to the crusades. Or any other of the trillion interpretations.My beliefs, in many circles, get me called an irrational bigot. When my belief was the standard until a decade ago. |
 I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
HeroicIdealism said: As is the standard a decade ago. It doesn't change my point.Lunilah said: With that logic you could go back to the crusades. Or any other of the trillion interpretations. Crusades are over what, 800 years old? They are irrelevant. |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
HeroicIdealism said: Neither of us know that, we didn't live back then. Foolishness is in the eye of the beholder, there has been and always will be foolish positions, that's my point. Lunilah said: As is the standard a decade ago. It doesn't change my point. Then what is your point? I am not foolish enough to pick violent wars as a desirable standard. |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
HeroicIdealism said: Well at least you realize you're being homophobic. Want a cookie for that?Well, by the definition of homophobic by modern standards, my posts were homophobic :P HeroicIdealism said: You said you read 'unrealistic heterosexual animes' as escapism, right? But to what extent of unrealistic are you talking about?So, I don't understand why "unrealistic yaoi" is bad for gays. The unrealistic yaoi I'm referring to is something like non-con advances that lead to a relationship *side-eyeing the likes of early Hidoku Shinaide plot, Okane ga Nai, etc*. It happens often in yaoi and even as a fujoshi, I disagree with it. Even if someone's kink is to be dominated or humiliated, BDSM exist and BDSM requires consent and safeword. But the thing is... something like this is a really grey issue. Even with hetero hentai we still have tropes like gang rape or forced fvck or other shit. So yeah... it's not exclusively a yaoi's problem but people hate yaoi because the majority of its depiction is like that. If someone were to ask me where good yaois are, most of it is still in a manga form. But if you're curious as to what other good/healthy yaoi animes that are already out there, this dude here did a great job recommending them as well as discussing the problems of yaoi/BL genre in the eyes of a gay man. Lastly, you're free to comment on anything you want. It's not my job to ban you or to told you to be quiet. Just remember that behind those profile picture are real humans who might or might not have been hurt by the things you typed indifferently. Or you might as well know that already and don't care *shrugs* Edit: idk why the YT video didn't show up but this is the URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0hL_ujXqk&t=776s |
Neolavender123Nov 25, 2018 7:38 AM
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HeroicIdealism said: I don't know what i am or care, i'm apolitical. By mob mentality: You are a remnant of foolishness from the old. My point is confirming your "in many circles" comment.Lunilah said: Neither of us know that, we didn't live back then. Foolishness is in the eye of the beholder, there has been and always will be foolish positions, that's my point. Yeah, I get it, you are a progressive who sees progress as being good, and a desire for past traditions as being foolish. I never said that the Crusades itself was foolish, I'm not going to bother to get into that. I don't think all war is foolish. But to desire war when it is not needed is a foolish position, unless you enjoy suffering. In which case, it comes down to mob mentality: do most people desire suffering? If that is so, then their viewpoint is not going to be seen as the foolish one. That's how this works when you come down to "subjective" reasoning. |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
HeroicIdealism said: If that's all you think conservatism is, then so be it. I'm merely using your implications of decade past norms being old, which is in reality just a shrinking but still a seemingly big but quiet stance as people don't change so fast. As for the thin air bit, that could go back even further than the 800 year old crusades, but if you want to stay more modern it's going to be 800 year old foolish ideas eventually.Lunilah said: I don't know what i am or care, i'm apolitical. By mob mentality: You are a remnant of foolishness from the old. My point is confirming your "in many circles" comment. You're "apolitical" but you clearly think that conservatism = foolish. "Foolishness of the old" shows this. I think there's a reason why certain traditions existed. People didn't decide that homosexuality was a negative attribute for society out of thin air. Edit: HeroicIdealism said: Because that's where the male G-Spot is.When it comes to gay love, as in, pure, genuine same-sex love... I don't understand why they can't just be BFFs and instead have to kiss and buttfuck. |
LunilahNov 25, 2018 8:09 AM
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