| Because they're plot elitistofags who only pretend to enjoy their 400+ eps battle shonens to look down on anyone who enjoys episodic shows and social commentary. Their favs lists are all copy-pasted, and they keep making threads to shit on cartoon watchers and LoGH fans and tell them they're posers or have shit taste. |
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Pullman said: It's so I can laugh at the beautiful hypocrisy when they talk about non-anime fans being prejudiced and ignorant and not knowing what they talk about when they say all anime is for kids or tentacle porn. Anime fans are just as prejudiced and ignorant when it comes to anything non-japanese (western animation or live action for example). It's really more a human trait than something related to any particular medium or fandom. You sir have earned a Citizen Kane clap. I don't know why people would limit themselves by watching only anime or only live action. Whether it's anime, cartoons or live action most people can find at least some things in the medium that they will enjoy. |
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Bobby2Hands said: Pullman said: It's so I can laugh at the beautiful hypocrisy when they talk about non-anime fans being prejudiced and ignorant and not knowing what they talk about when they say all anime is for kids or tentacle porn. Anime fans are just as prejudiced and ignorant when it comes to anything non-japanese (western animation or live action for example). It's really more a human trait than something related to any particular medium or fandom. You sir have earned a Citizen Kane clap. I don't know why people would limit themselves by watching only anime or only live action. Whether it's anime, cartoons or live action most people can find at least some things in the medium that they will enjoy. Well said. I've always liked to pick the shows/stories that suit my taste most from all kinds of mediums. Manga, books, comics, anime, western animation, live action series, movies etc... I was baffled when I found out how territorial a lot of fans are who straight out refuse to acknowledge the merits of anything but their medium of choice. Unless your taste is very, very, very narrow there is simply no reason to reject any medium as a whole. It just shows your ignorance. |
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| 99% of all anime better then Avatar? That's hilarious, since Avatar is one of the greatest TV shows in general of all time. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| You mean WEEBS.... Because, I still love MY American cartoons! Rick and Morty alone is better than ANY anime I've ever seen. Furthermore....Pixar shits on every single Japanese animation Studio...period! |
| More like Avatar is better than 99% of anime. Purists are insecure and only like Japan, even if their precious anime is based on another country. You can get them interested in Dragonball but not in chinese mythology. tl;dr because autism |
| Weeaboos have a superiority complex. Paul said: No it isn't, I don't see cartoon fans hating on anime on Toonzone. Toonzone actually has a section specifically for anime.Isn't it basically this way in the western cartoon community towards anime as well? Hell there was even a weeaboo that went on Toonzone to bash cartoons and talk about how superior anime is. http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/7-reasons-why-anime-are-much-more-superior-vs-cartoon.5586392/ Omkar_Nagwade said: There have been many cartoons with blood and nudity ever since the 90's.. Why? Because first of all there will be an uproar if even a hint of nudity or blood is shown on cartoons. Omkar_Nagwade said: WHAT ANIME HAS STREAMING AS A VILLAIN?American cartoons are just not creative enough to match anime WHAT ANIME HAS A SUPER INTELLIGENT LAB RAT TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD? WHAT ANIME IS SET INSIDE A HUMAN BOY'S BODY? WHAT ANIME HAS A POST APOCALYPTIC WORLD WITH CANDY PEOPLE? WHAT ANIME HAS A DUCK MECHA? WHAT ANIME HAS A SUPERHERO THAT IS LITERALLY INSANE? WHAT ANIME HAS AN UNDERWATER VERSION OF NEW YORK CITY? Cartoons shit on anime when it comes to creativity. Anime is the same shit over and over. |
DrGeroCreationMay 8, 2017 10:18 AM
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| probably because of loneliness and insecurities. they need to reaffirm their positions in their own lives. |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
| Because I like anime more than western cartoons. |
| Cartoons are for kids, anime is for young adults and men. |
Satania- said: Have you seen anyone who said they like Rick and Morty IRL? They are the worst people in existence. The show is all right though. Now Steven's Universe on the other hand... All my friends love Rick and Morty and they're fabulous :> Btw it's Steven Universe. It's his name, not his universe. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Nourunin said: Cartoons are for kids, anime is for young adults and men. I hear South Park and Family Guy are especially popular with the preschooler crowd. |
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Satania- said: Reversinator said: I hear South Park and Family Guy are especially popular with the preschooler crowd. Come on, South Park (Seasons 1-16) might be a 10/10 if I rated it on MAL. I'll take the preschooler badge with honor though. "Hey guys, lets make fun of every industry, video game industry, youtubers, celebrities while making sex jokes! Very creative and original, right?" |
Nourunin said: Cartoons are for kids, anime is for young adults and men. For kids For adults Kidsssssssss  Adultsssssssss  |
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| I feel like it's because the majority of western animation is aimed at younger kids. That, or western animation for adults are extremely vulgar and disgusting in some ways (focusing on the use of drugs, alcohol, and sex. But to be fair, those things aren't really my cup of tea.) I can only think of a few cartoons over here that are actually good. |
| For the same reason why elitist look down on casual, SAO fans etc. So they can feel high class for having different taste. I don't watch much western cartoons but I do prefer many western animated movies like Zootopia, Inside Out, How to Train Your Dragon, Toy Story, The Incredibles,Wall-E over most other anime. |
ZapredonMay 9, 2017 12:32 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| i don't hate western cartoons i enjoy rwby, avatar, steven universe, star vs the forces of evil. grim adventures of billy and mandy, ben 10 (not the new shitty remake), samurai jack, the animated dc movies, gravity falls, i do hate stupid cartoons. teen titans go comes to mind. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
ShyGuyDY said: Western cartoons fail to satisfy as many people now as it did in the childhoods of a now adult audience (apart from a few notable exceptions, and more adult-oriented shows) and anime fills that gap in terms of storytelling, character building and more varied and fantastical settings and scenarios. Personally I feel most western cartoons are crap but that may be because I'm 25 and don't watch as many cartoons anymore. Then again I like to watch Peppa Pig and Miffy & Friends so what do I know. you have to remember a lot of the more recent cartoons have been suffering from over protective parents saying "think of the children!" or "this violent cartoon makes people violent!" (it been dying down recently.) |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| As an adult in his 20's anime does not satisfy my needs when it comes to comedy, wackiness, character based songs, characters (cartoon characters feel more human to me than anime characters, anime characters feel too wooden for me), settings (cartoons have far more settings), female characters with lips, adult female characters. hazerddex said: WTF are you talking about? Young Justice was super violent yet aired on Cartoon Network and then you have the new Samurai Jack which is far more bloody than the one from the 2000's.you have to remember a lot of the more recent cartoons have been suffering from over protective parents saying "think of the children!" or "this violent cartoon makes people violent!" (it been dying down recently.) |
DrGeroCreationMay 8, 2017 11:16 PM
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ShyGuyDY said: Yeah and kids should experience cartoons like these from the good old days as wellIf only kids now could experience shows we as adults grew up with. Sad things have gone so PC. |
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DrGeroCreation said: As an adult in his 20's anime does not satisfy my needs when it comes to comedy, wackiness, character based songs, characters (cartoon characters feel more human to me than anime characters, anime characters feel too wooden for me), settings (cartoons have far more settings), female characters with lips, adult female characters. hazerddex said: WTF are you talking about? Young Justice was super violent yet aired on Cartoon Network and then you have the new Samurai Jack which is far more bloody than the one from the 2000's.you have to remember a lot of the more recent cartoons have been suffering from over protective parents saying "think of the children!" or "this violent cartoon makes people violent!" (it been dying down recently.) did you read the (it been dying down recently.) part? i was talking about a time from around 2005-2010 or so  remember these guys |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| @hazerddex What does 4Kids who dubbed anime have to do with western cartoons? That just shows that anime dubbing was shit in that time period. |
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| > Why do anime lovers feel the need to be condescending towards western cartoons Let me explain: This is what a typical cartoon looks like:  This is what a typical anime looks like:  (and it took me a while to find a picture that has any boys in it) Both aren't famous for their art or animation (in fact, both Sketchbook and Simpsons are situational comedies and don't really need either). But anime doesn't sink as low when it comes to art compared to western cartoons. Sure, superhero action cartoons can look good. But for some reason americans are sure that as soon as I grow up, I stop caring about beauty. |
| Its because western animation isn't as good. |
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@flannan Interestingly Simpson's Japanese counterpart is technically Saze- San and oh my God Saze-San has such realistic art. |
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flannan said: > Why do anime lovers feel the need to be condescending towards western cartoons Let me explain: This is what a typical cartoon looks like: This is what a typical anime looks like: (and it took me a while to find a picture that has any boys in it) Both aren't famous for their art or animation (in fact, both Sketchbook and Simpsons are situational comedies and don't really need either). But anime doesn't sink as low when it comes to art compared to western cartoons. Sure, superhero action cartoons can look good. But for some reason americans are sure that as soon as I grow up, I stop caring about beauty. It's too early in the morning and I may be eating a nice bait but dude, you are comparing a promo pic with a still. @DrGeroCreation Wouldn't Crayon Shin-chan be more of a counterpart of The Simpsons than Sazae-san? |
jal90 said: Don't know, I 've seen more people compare Sazae -San to the Simpsons than Shin Chan but I guess both can work.@DrGeroCreation Wouldn't Crayon Shin-chan be more of a counterpart of The Simpsons than Sazae-san? |
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| Animation is not same thing as Art i cant undestand how people still put both in same sentence. Western cartoons tend too have more consistent fluidity of animation that is fact even if you like it or not, and i am not talking only about Adventure Time,Regular Show, Young Justice or anything with remotely bigger founding then average . In fact there is smaller number of anime compared too overall large number of produced, that can even stand up too mentioned trio in fluidity west wins on average compared too anime in pure consistency of animation due too often larger budgets per episodes and usage of more efficient techniques/flash or more simple art of backgrounds mixed in. But when it comes too creativity of Art/drawing then situation is oposite anime is vastly ahead of pretty much almost any non jap cartoon out there and few can stand up front with anime in that regard. Same as more variety of themes used/explored in anime that is also undeniable tbh. But name of this thread is just wrong even tho anime wins in 2 out of 3 major things if you ask me. |
ExowaveMay 9, 2017 12:48 AM
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jal90 said: flannan said: > Why do anime lovers feel the need to be condescending towards western cartoons Let me explain: This is what a typical cartoon looks like: This is what a typical anime looks like: (and it took me a while to find a picture that has any boys in it) Both aren't famous for their art or animation (in fact, both Sketchbook and Simpsons are situational comedies and don't really need either). But anime doesn't sink as low when it comes to art compared to western cartoons. Sure, superhero action cartoons can look good. But for some reason americans are sure that as soon as I grow up, I stop caring about beauty. It's too early in the morning and I may be eating a nice bait but dude, you are comparing a promo pic with a still. Oh, you want a promo pic of Sketchbook? Here you go:  It is even better, naturally. |
| There are a lot of beautiful art in cartoons. Only anime can look nice is BS. Also Mickey Mouse 2013 artstyle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>overrated Shaft art |
DrGeroCreationMay 9, 2017 1:05 AM
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flannan said: jal90 said: It's too early in the morning and I may be eating a nice bait but dude, you are comparing a promo pic with a still. Oh, you want a promo pic of Sketchbook? Here you go: It is even better, naturally. You can cherrypick better:  But the question is that promotional images really should not be compared with stills. Promos are composed of what the show tries to sell, they will often make information schematic and easy to remember. Stills are dynamic, they portray the characters and art of the show in their context, and therefore you can get a way better idea of their reach. |
| its not really anime fans but the fans of western cartoons like me that have come to hate them. I grew up watching excellent western cartoons by hanna barbera or DC or marvel. then cartoon network started showing anime like ccs..... by the mid 2000's anime was more prominent, but cartoons unfortunately had devolved from btas like offerings to shit like family gay and south park. hell even the disney owned things like darkwing duck were out and crap like ben10 was in. and while ben10 tries to look like anime, its not. |
| I miss the times when I watch cartoons like the awesome Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's lab then switching the channel to Animax to watch Chobits. I didn't even know that they were different lol. |
  ใ I was nothing until the moment I met you. ใ |
| Because western animation has gone severely downhill since the 90s. Meanwhile, anime continues to be deliver. |
kawaii96desu said: Because they think that watching Japanese cartoons makes them exceptional unlike their average classmate who claims that avatar is a good show. Also once they fall in love with Japan there is no turning back. They start to think that everything made there is superior to the things made in their mediocre country. I'm sure nobody has ever claimed that Japanese armor is better than western fullplate. kawaii96desu said: "But... but... bu... naruto is so much deeper than avatar, you don't understand...." Naruto and Avatar are very much the same thing. kawaii96desu said: "Katana are better than longswords" Depending on the situation. Longsword is supposedly more useful against armored knights. But in most situations the type of sword does not matter. What matters is, the other guy has a gun, and you have to kill him before he realizes what is going on. kawaii96desu said: Also for those who claim that the art/animation is better in anime - this is complete bs, honestly, do some research. I do not care about your fucking animation. I only care about art, and art in anime is surely better. [anime breasts.jpg] |
| People who say things like this are possibly genuine weebs. Or they only watched something like dora the explorer or similar kids shows. |
kawaii96desu said: Never been in situation like that before, to be honest, I don't even own a sword. Anyway, thanks for your advice. I have never been in a situation like that too. Swords are kind of impractical if your opponent can be killed with bullets. And if you're in a situation when you opponent can't be killed with bullets, all the assumptions that went into making longswords and katanas excellent weapons go out of the window, and you have to re-evaluate what do you expect from a sword. Or just grab whatever is at hand. kawaii96desu said: flannan said: I do not care about your fucking animation. I only care about art, and art in anime is surely better. [anime breasts.jpg] Yea, anime breasts are awesome, however judging by your posts, you probably think that every cartoon looks like the simpsons in terms of artwork, but in reality there are a lot of "cartoons" from the past which are still unsurpassed even by the top Japanese animations. I don't even know at this point whether you are trolling or not, but this is just a fact. I'm not going to argue that there are no cartoons that look better than anime. Some cartoons look pretty good, and I have no problems with, say, Avatar: The Last Airbender in the art department. But anime is less likely to look awful, even when the work doesn't really need good art. |
| Since western cartoons are better, anime fans feel the need to belittle it so they can feel better about watching an inferior medium |
SomeEdgeLord said: I WILL report you from this forum if this continues. In real life, I am one of the coldest, unsympathetic, people you'll ever know, who's grown up in an even colder household, you really don't want me to break my persona, I know how to make people feel bad. YearnsforAttention said: hm who has 1656 friends on MAL that's right me bye bye YearnsforAttention said: I don't want your approval how many damn times do I need to say it I enjoy irritating you I am gonna do things MY way |
| ehh i like cartoons and would give avatar a solid 8 also i like such series as futurama, simpsons, family guy and even adventure time xDD |
| Again the "cartoon vs anime" thread? I'm still say those both medias have strengths and weaknesses. But even if both sides have tropes I can't stand, I "tend to be "less annoyed" with cartoons. I don't really know how to explain but maybe It's cultural difference. Recently, I've tried to watch Steins : Gate because It's a famous and praised show and...I must admit, I didn't finish the first episode because the way how the protagonists talk, annoyed me as hell. And It's kinda recurrent in animes. It's hard to explain but maybe this is the fact japanese characters tend to overact for everything who annoy me. Well, It's just a personnal opinion. |
DrGeroCreation said: Weeaboos have a superiority complex. Omkar_Nagwade said: There have been many cartoons with blood and nudity ever since the 90's.Why? Because first of all there will be an uproar if even a hint of nudity or blood is shown on cartoons. There has been blood and nudity in cartoons for a long time. Just look at Fritz the Cat, it has full on dicks/pussies out nudity and that was made in 1972 |
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DrGeroCreation said: @flannan Interestingly Simpson's Japanese counterpart is technically Saze- San and oh my God Saze-San has such realistic art. Well, we aren't watching Sazae-san or Crayon shin-chan. Or any of the numerous anime that are clearly aimed at kids. We really like anime for a limited subset of it that appeals to us. And western animation is notably weak in that subset. I'm sure you can name a cartoon that appeals to the right audience and is good-looking. Maybe you can even name a dozen. But anime gives us this much every season, giving me the opportunity to choose something that uniquely appeals to me. Western cartoons can't beat that. For example, there is a sci-fi anime that actually cares about relativity (Soukou no Strain). Will western cartoons ever dare to appeal to people who can understand such things? |
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