Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records Episode 2 Discussion

Rehls said:


Yes, sure. But what the MC said wasn't entirely true. Because unlike guns, magic can actually defend. With guns you can only defend yourself by attacking but with magic one's entire body can be shielded, for example. The powerful spell the blonde woman has cast could've been dodged with some teleportation or movement-enhancing magic. Or something similar to what Archer used to defend against Lancer.

Now I wonder if there are guns in this show's world? No, then? Otherwise it'd be too unjustifiable for he to be saying all that about magic while ignoring guns. But at this point he's just being ignorant. (But well, actually, it really appears like they're forcing it so his hatred for magic appears justified--and it's nearing dishonesty.)


Btw, the explanation he gave about how their magic works was...how do I say this? It should've been obvious to them. The concept wasn't new to me at least. It's kinda unbelievable how didn't any of them realize this before. But they're students still, so ye...

Rehls said:


Yes, sure. But what the MC said wasn't entirely true. Because unlike guns, magic can actually defend. With guns you can only defend yourself by attacking but with magic one's entire body can be shielded, for example. The powerful spell the blonde woman has cast could've been dodged with some teleportation or movement-enhancing magic. Or something similar to what Archer used to defend against Lancer.

Now I wonder if there are guns in this show's world? No, then? Otherwise it'd be too unjustifiable for he to be saying all that about magic while ignoring guns. But at this point he's just being ignorant. (But well, actually, it really appears like they're forcing it so his hatred for magic appears justified--and it's nearing dishonesty.)


Btw, the explanation he gave about how their magic works was...how do I say this? It should've been obvious to them. The concept wasn't new to me at least. It's kinda unbelievable how didn't any of them realize this before. But they're students still, so ye...

RediceRyan said:
Strong episode, didn't think it would get so serious so much of the time. Nice to see

L-Ryoshi said:
Well now, scummy teacher was actually badass scummy teacher. Who'd a thought....

So he's a CQC specialist with the invincible skill of nullifying magic abilities eh? So what happens if someone drops a few dozen boulders from the sky to squash him? I doubt magic will help save him at that point....

That aside, his lessons about thinking outside the constrictive and tradition-imposed box was fun to watch, and I bet his students were all enlightened by it.

Oh, and those ex-military thugs really suck so bad. How is it possible that they even got into the military if they're so lost without magic? Are the soldiers in this world so reliant on magic for everything that they cannot even deal with physical punches and kicks?

I love these magical high school setting stories, but seriously some of these things just need explaining.

DoctorWasabi said:
aside from that cringey attempted rape scene, this episode was amazing

getting better and better

GangsterCat said:
shameless copy paste here

The adaptation of Akashic Records airing this season is the latest case in a very long line of garbage, also known as light novels, using rape as means to make the sleazy protagonist seem heroic. The first episode is spent on him being a pervert teacher with his own students, while the second episode redeems him by having him protecting the students from a one-dimensional rapist criminal. The reasoning behind this is presenting the protagonist as the lesser of two evils. On one hand he is flawed, on the other hand he is not as bad as the villains. It is meant to make him more likable by not being a Gary Stu, but also someone who at the end of the day protects the students and teaches them valuable life lessons.

............................

The morals of the story are, if you are using the lesser of two evils trope, you don’t justify your flawed character by throwing in one-dimensional bad guys who are incarnations of pure evil. Also, if you so much want to have a flawed character to begin with, you don’t make him an overpowered hax who can do anything he likes with his powers, since that nullifies whatever flaws he’s supposed to have. And, needless to say, light novels are all about jesus-kuns and rapists, so they are garbage.

Soli18 said:


The students are just stupid I guess. I also had my doubts when he was giving that speech. Like really bruvs is this new to you?

Btw I don't think there are guns in this animu.

darklord213 said:
that was funny how is he all you guys look busy im leaving

GangsterCat said:
shameless copy paste here

The adaptation of Akashic Records airing this season is the latest case in a very long line of garbage, also known as light novels, using rape as means to make the sleazy protagonist seem heroic. The first episode is spent on him being a pervert teacher with his own students, while the second episode redeems him by having him protecting the students from a one-dimensional rapist criminal. The reasoning behind this is presenting the protagonist as the lesser of two evils. On one hand he is flawed, on the other hand he is not as bad as the villains. It is meant to make him more likable by not being a Gary Stu, but also someone who at the end of the day protects the students and teaches them valuable life lessons.

This works fine if you accept it at face value but not when you look at the way it was presented. There was absolutely no build up for the introduction of the evil rapist. He just conveniently appeared and did his best to be as evil as possible, until the teacher conveniently appears and stops him in a way that makes him a badass. So the issue is obvious when you analyze the script instead of the moral message. It was too staged. So conveniently presented that you can’t take it seriously, and even have the exact opposite reaction from the one the author anticipated.

What makes things even worse is how the author pointed out this flaw when he explained the magic system in the series being based on basically fooling people into accepting the effects of magic through fancy words. What you say and what you intend to do have nothing to do with each other; you’re just tricking people into accepting whatever you want. When you subvert traditional rules of magic like that, you condition the audience to expect more unconventional events to follow. Yet the very next scene is a one-dimensional rapist that came out of nowhere, and got stopped by the teacher who also came out of nowhere and did it in a cheesy way. The author pointed out the flaws of his own writing by not following his own advises.

The morals of the story are, if you are using the lesser of two evils trope, you don’t justify your flawed character by throwing in one-dimensional bad guys who are incarnations of pure evil. Also, if you so much want to have a flawed character to begin with, you don’t make him an overpowered hax who can do anything he likes with his powers, since that nullifies whatever flaws he’s supposed to have. And, needless to say, light novels are all about jesus-kuns and rapists, so they are garbage.

kyogen_kigo said:
Glenn shouted that he was going to use his iron fist, but actually kicked the rapist. I swear there is some anime or mange where that was done before, where the protagonist pretends he is going to punch but actually kicks. I can't remember which one.

kyogen_kigo said:
Glenn shouted that he was going to use his iron fist, but actually kicked the rapist. I swear there is some anime or mange where that was done before, where the protagonist pretends he is going to punch but actually kicks. I can't remember which one.

GangsterCat said:
shameless copy paste here

The adaptation of Akashic Records airing this season is the latest case in a very long line of garbage, also known as light novels, using rape as means to make the sleazy protagonist seem heroic. The first episode is spent on him being a pervert teacher with his own students, while the second episode redeems him by having him protecting the students from a one-dimensional rapist criminal. The reasoning behind this is presenting the protagonist as the lesser of two evils. On one hand he is flawed, on the other hand he is not as bad as the villains. It is meant to make him more likable by not being a Gary Stu, but also someone who at the end of the day protects the students and teaches them valuable life lessons.

This works fine if you accept it at face value but not when you look at the way it was presented. There was absolutely no build up for the introduction of the evil rapist. He just conveniently appeared and did his best to be as evil as possible, until the teacher conveniently appears and stops him in a way that makes him a badass. So the issue is obvious when you analyze the script instead of the moral message. It was too staged. So conveniently presented that you can’t take it seriously, and even have the exact opposite reaction from the one the author anticipated.

What makes things even worse is how the author pointed out this flaw when he explained the magic system in the series being based on basically fooling people into accepting the effects of magic through fancy words. What you say and what you intend to do have nothing to do with each other; you’re just tricking people into accepting whatever you want. When you subvert traditional rules of magic like that, you condition the audience to expect more unconventional events to follow. Yet the very next scene is a one-dimensional rapist that came out of nowhere, and got stopped by the teacher who also came out of nowhere and did it in a cheesy way. The author pointed out the flaws of his own writing by not following his own advises.

The morals of the story are, if you are using the lesser of two evils trope, you don’t justify your flawed character by throwing in one-dimensional bad guys who are incarnations of pure evil. Also, if you so much want to have a flawed character to begin with, you don’t make him an overpowered hax who can do anything he likes with his powers, since that nullifies whatever flaws he’s supposed to have. And, needless to say, light novels are all about jesus-kuns and rapists, so they are garbage.

yhunata said:
It's barely an improvement, but an improvement nonetheless. Still can't see how this has such a high rating though.

genesic123 said:


Screw That Anime Snob

The main character redeemed himself by showing the concept of mastery rather than "Godly" spells.He taught the students the value of learning.

He is not a lesser evil.He is a character with both good and bad qualities.

That bad guy was a mook.Let the main character have a chance to shine.

Having no magic does not.make him overpowered.And it's only ep 2 wtf.

What's to say stronger characters won't show up.

That anime snob obviously skipped over the first half.The rape scene wasnt most of the episode. A deluded hipster that only wants to bash everything for the Sake of correctness.

GangsterCat said:
shameless copy paste here

The adaptation of Akashic Records airing this season is the latest case in a very long line of garbage, also known as light novels, using rape as means to make the sleazy protagonist seem heroic. The first episode is spent on him being a pervert teacher with his own students, while the second episode redeems him by having him protecting the students from a one-dimensional rapist criminal. The reasoning behind this is presenting the protagonist as the lesser of two evils. On one hand he is flawed, on the other hand he is not as bad as the villains. It is meant to make him more likable by not being a Gary Stu, but also someone who at the end of the day protects the students and teaches them valuable life lessons.

This works fine if you accept it at face value but not when you look at the way it was presented. There was absolutely no build up for the introduction of the evil rapist. He just conveniently appeared and did his best to be as evil as possible, until the teacher conveniently appears and stops him in a way that makes him a badass. So the issue is obvious when you analyze the script instead of the moral message. It was too staged. So conveniently presented that you can’t take it seriously, and even have the exact opposite reaction from the one the author anticipated.

What makes things even worse is how the author pointed out this flaw when he explained the magic system in the series being based on basically fooling people into accepting the effects of magic through fancy words. What you say and what you intend to do have nothing to do with each other; you’re just tricking people into accepting whatever you want. When you subvert traditional rules of magic like that, you condition the audience to expect more unconventional events to follow. Yet the very next scene is a one-dimensional rapist that came out of nowhere, and got stopped by the teacher who also came out of nowhere and did it in a cheesy way. The author pointed out the flaws of his own writing by not following his own advises.

The morals of the story are, if you are using the lesser of two evils trope, you don’t justify your flawed character by throwing in one-dimensional bad guys who are incarnations of pure evil. Also, if you so much want to have a flawed character to begin with, you don’t make him an overpowered hax who can do anything he likes with his powers, since that nullifies whatever flaws he’s supposed to have. And, needless to say, light novels are all about jesus-kuns and rapists, so they are garbage.

NanoRin said:
Glenn is really carrying this show for me, he's a fantastic character.

Could have done without that one Sisti scene but I guess the payoff of having Glenn kick that guy's a$$ was worth it. The other characters aren't really doing too much for me right now but I'm interested in the world building and their portrayal of magic.

So far one of my favorite shows this season for sure.

Volbla said:
Heading straight to the rape, eh? This is the most Cross Ange show since Cross Ange.