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RealityRush said: Do you understand what the purpose of a Prologue is? It's to setup the stakes, introduce some interesting characters and give you a base to build them off of, and most importantly give you a hook to interest you. Alisha suffered tragedy in clichéd fashion, yes. You aren't meant to deeply empathise, you are simply being shown where her character development starts, which apparently is kind of a rock bottom moment. Yes, standard tropes apply here because that is why they exist. Also, they included a wicked fight scene as part of the hook. Oh I know it is a set up. Does not mean it works and I did explain why it does not work. The only part that was enjoyable was the action sequence. So asking the show to have more of what it does decently and less of what it fails at is only normal. Also no - cliches existing does not mean they should be used. Narrative writing can be better than that and criticizing the work for being cliched is a fair criticism. Especially when the show also happens to have problems with technical aspects like directing, pacing, poor cgi use, etc.. LegendOfLenis said: Fai just hates ufotable a lot. It's the guy who goes around saying the ubw 1.5 hour long deen quality movie was better than the series...well, take that as you want to. Except I did not say that, nice try at slandering me tho. length does not mean quality and there are things that the movie did better than the show tho |
AhenshihaelJul 3, 2016 4:01 PM
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| The visuals were really amazing. As expected from ufotable. The story was okay, however. Alisha looked pretty, however. |
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| Damn it, WHY? WHY didn't they use original opening from the game T.T It's just FREAKING AMAZING (thank me later): P.S Unlimited Budget works no.2? |
TapuTapuuJul 3, 2016 4:17 PM
| Excellent art & animation. Great job Ufotable. That little fight with that assassin was great. Princess Alisha can really hold her own. That mist was dangerous as hell. It's like the apocalypse has started. Those other two fighting was cool. Even the little girl got taken. Thats just sad. Only a prologue. Well I look forward to the actual first episode & a good OP song in the end. |
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| Well, that was depressing. I had my eye on Tao but then he died off-screen. |
| Definitely awesome prologue episode. I'm one of those people that actually really enjoyed Zestiria and the fact this is going anime original has me excited to see what happens. Did I see Velvet in the opening theme!? That's freaking awesome! |
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Inferno_Blaze12 said: Yohimo_asakura said: Damn it, WHY? WHY didn't they use original opening from the game T.T It's just FREAKING AMAZING (thank me later): P.S Unlimited Budget works no.2? I guess they didn't use that opening because Velvet is supposedly in this show, and she's not in Zestiria's real opening, so they had to make another one. Oh, you are right. That makes sense. Still T.T I like this OP too, tho |
| Happy that I will get to see more of Aisha |
| Wow, that felt like a nightmare. And when that dragon burst from the flames - just wow. I love the characters so far, although the female knights all died. They were all strong fighters. The princess is really skilled with a spear! And because I notice, no fanservice either despite the setting~ Plus smooth animation and good music. That was awesome. |
| 8/10, 2nd Fav anime first episode this season |
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| I have no idea what was going on in that episode all I can gather is that the sky is really mad for some reason |
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Yup. Even if the story won't be that satisfying, it still should be a good watch, just for action, if the animation keeps up. I mean, I was like - "whaaa are they getting to Pixar level water animation?!...". Beautiful. :) |
CC9ers said: Man, that was 10x better than I had hoped and I actually had reasonably high expectations for this. I really enjoyed the 44 minute OVA they released a few years ago so I was really looking forward to this. Haven't played the game but this episode may have just convinced me to buy it since Steam has it on sale for $20 right now. The game is definitely worth the $20, although it is probably one of the weaker titles in terms of Tales games. Not sure if you've played any of them, but they are all relatively fun for the most part. I didn't find the story to be that great though, but hopefully people enjoy the anime. Ufotable always handles Tales very well. |
| "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana |
| That was great! Even more so because they focused on Alisha (for some reason I feel as if the game is treating her more cruelly compared to the other main casts). What's Velvet doing in the OP? |
| That was quite the setup with quite a few threads with which they can weave the coming story. Good establishment of the looming situation, the primary (presumable driving) legend, and the political situation. Of the Princess' friends we confirm Tao is dead as we saw his body. I assume the others died as well but this being anime at least one might show up again at a later date. I was beginning to like Ganette, darn it. The fighting was very good. I definitely appreciated the lack of fanservice. And for what we saw of it I thought the dragon was very well rendered. Absolutely looking forward to more of this anime! |
| The sword that takes life gives life |
| I know nothing about the game and this looks promising. The previous special made more sense after watching this one. |
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Kindara said: Anime will have a different story apparently, so we can both pray and hope it's better than the game.CC9ers said: Man, that was 10x better than I had hoped and I actually had reasonably high expectations for this. I really enjoyed the 44 minute OVA they released a few years ago so I was really looking forward to this. Haven't played the game but this episode may have just convinced me to buy it since Steam has it on sale for $20 right now. The game is definitely worth the $20, although it is probably one of the weaker titles in terms of Tales games. Not sure if you've played any of them, but they are all relatively fun for the most part. I didn't find the story to be that great though, but hopefully people enjoy the anime. Ufotable always handles Tales very well. |
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Tyrel said: Kindara said: Anime will have a different story apparently, so we can both pray and hope it's better than the game.The game is definitely worth the $20, although it is probably one of the weaker titles in terms of Tales games. Not sure if you've played any of them, but they are all relatively fun for the most part. I didn't find the story to be that great though, but hopefully people enjoy the anime. Ufotable always handles Tales very well. Oh damn didn't realize that. Guess I'll have to give it a watch. Thanks for telling me. |
| "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana |
| the story seems average but that art direction and ed theme though |
| The animation is extraordinary well done, it gave a little of the fate/zero vibe. I'm still a bit lost about the story line, but hopefully it clears up when the real episode airs. Definitely going on my to watch list. |
Kindara said: CC9ers said: Man, that was 10x better than I had hoped and I actually had reasonably high expectations for this. I really enjoyed the 44 minute OVA they released a few years ago so I was really looking forward to this. Haven't played the game but this episode may have just convinced me to buy it since Steam has it on sale for $20 right now. The game is definitely worth the $20, although it is probably one of the weaker titles in terms of Tales games. Not sure if you've played any of them, but they are all relatively fun for the most part. I didn't find the story to be that great though, but hopefully people enjoy the anime. Ufotable always handles Tales very well. I've played Symphonia and Vesperia. I had planned on just watching the anime instead of playing the game but since it is apparently going largely original, I may just go ahead and get the game instead since I love the setting and soundtrack. I've heard the characters are some of the worst in the series though so hopefully the anime handles them better at least. |
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Fai said: Musically this had nothing too interesting going for it too. Most of OST was basically typical Gothic chorus. I guess it is serviceable for the scenes presented but I hope this has more than just typical "singing of doom". I guess it might sound all the same. As someone who's played and beat the game though, it was more enjoyable for me. I heard one of the boss themes, as well as a bit of Artorius' Throne in there. The tracks weren't ripped directly from the game, I heard a lot of extra instruments. During the big tornado scene, all these tracks were strewn together in a way that was appreciable for me. ----------------------------- Was that area Glaivend Basin? Because that looks huuuuge. ----------------------------- This was something that I was confused with throughout: what characters could and could not see. It's not so clear here. |
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Youbetternot said: The animation is extraordinary well done, it gave a little of the fate/zero vibe. I'm still a bit lost about the story line, but hopefully it clears up when the real episode airs. Definitely going on my to watch list. Yeah it's the same people who animated the fate series actually. Ufotable is great. Everything is smooth and crisp with their animes. Playing the game, the story is pretty damn confusing. As someone said above, the story from the anime is supposed to deviate from the video game, which is a good thing considering how uninteresting the story was in the game. Hopefully they make the necessary changes to make it more enjoyable than the game's story. |
| "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana |
EpicCh33se said: ----------------------------- Was that area Glaivend Basin? Because that looks huuuuge. ----------------------------- This was something that I was confused with throughout: what characters could and could not see. It's not so clear here. I think that is indeed Glaivend Basin. Also, at some point in the game, didn't Lailah/Edna say that regular humans can see hellion when the corruption has reached the 'Dragon Stage'? About Lunarre, I've always thought he was somewhat special, since . I assume Alisha 'saw' him when he was disguised then when him and the bitch Symmone fought she only saw the lightning, fire and flashes |
Yohimo_asakura said: I mean, I was like - "whaaa are they getting to Pixar level water animation?!...". Beautiful. :) The water is a definite step up from UBW's mercury water/skeletons, yeah. |
Ioryogi-kun said: About Lunarre, I've always thought he was somewhat special, since . I assume Alisha 'saw' him when he was disguised then when him and the bitch Symmone fought she only saw the lightning, fire and flashes |
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| Love how it feels like I'm watching a movie cutscene from the game as ufotable also did the games anime cutscenes. And my god that op song at the end. Showed the MC from Berseria. Loved it. Really hyped for this because Tales anime are quite good for anime game adaptions and ufotable doing it. Should really go finish the game though. |
PaulJul 3, 2016 5:59 PM
| Another great from Ufotable. Just hope Zestiria X will not delay like God Eater and brings 2 cour episode. Too hype with this series. >_< |
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Someone on GameFAQs mentioned that these are Velvet's bandages around Sorey's sword. |
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EpicCh33se said: Ioryogi-kun said: About Lunarre, I've always thought he was somewhat special, since . I assume Alisha 'saw' him when he was disguised then when him and the bitch Symmone fought she only saw the lightning, fire and flashes Uh huh, that's why I said maybe Lunarre's special, because his service was needed for the assassination attempt So I assume, normal humans can see him. |
Ioryogi-kun said: Uh huh, that's why I said maybe Lunarre's special, because his service was needed for the assassination attempt So I assume, normal humans can see him. But from this scene in the game: Alisha reacting seems out of the ordinary. Even Rose reacted when Lunarre transformed, which means that Alisha shouldn't be able to see that. |
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| I kinda expected Velvet to show up, but not this soon. |
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EpicCh33se said: It establishes that normal humans see Hellions in their original forms. I think you're mistaking that scene. Don't forget, in the game, we're seeing things through Sorey. So we see things as he sees them. |
Ioryogi-kunJul 3, 2016 6:38 PM
Fai said: Oh I know it is a set up. Does not mean it works and I did explain why it does not work. The only part that was enjoyable was the action sequence. So asking the show to have more of what it does decently and less of what it fails at is only normal. Also no - cliches existing does not mean they should be used. Narrative writing can be better than that and criticizing the work for being cliched is a fair criticism. Especially when the show also happens to have problems with technical aspects like directing, pacing, poor cgi use, etc.. I read your explanation.... no I don't think you understand it is a setup. If you did you wouldn't be levying criticisms at it that only make sense if it was a full show. Saying "a child dying is a cliché and therefore bad writing" is just straight retardation. Can kids not die now, should we not feel sad for them unless we know their life story? Yes, the kid was there to show "hey look, shit's bad" without having to develop her, because it is a prologue with limited time constraints. Clichés are often used for a reason, because they work. This is a prologue, we don't have time to develop everyone in it, it is merely to show the viewer the situation that spawned the rest of the show. Then you're comparing its CGI to Berserk, which....... the fact that you would even begin to do so is laughable. The CGI in this show is immensely better. You probably just don't realize how much of it is actually CGI because it isn't shit. Yeah, there is the obvious stuff like the cityscape and rocks which were a bit uncanny, but you probably don't even realize the fight scene was heavily CGI'd. Which, considering your love for RWBY, is also hilarious. Then you criticize the story for being Zestiria without even realizing that the anime is going to be heavily original, so that argument doesn't even apply. Until you see the full show, or at least a significant chunk of it, where do you can off complaining about the story? Your only valid criticisms are music, which is heavily subjective, and directing, which, considering your other criticisms, I assume you know nothing about. And now that I have addressed your damn original bait post, shame on me, I shall bid you adieu. |
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| As someone who played through the first five hours or so of the game, I was actually really confused why I didn't have a clue who half of the characters were, or why stuff was so different from the game. But it makes sense now that I know it was a prologue. I feel like the first half was a little rushed, but the second half was amazing. The first half did have its moments as well, especially the shots of Ladylake. Ufotable was definitely the right choice for this series, because I doubt that other studios would be able to make it look as gorgeous. Interested to see how the story will progress compared to the game, and who knows, maybe it'll encourage me to actually finish playing it. |
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| great prologue when i first heard about the anime i was like "why?" but once i knew it wasn't following game closely and has tie ins for ToB i got excited got high hopes for this that they improve on the story and filling all that Alisha time :). always loved seeing tales cutscenes in the ufotable style so a whole series in it is a huge treat. also holy crap Velvet straight up in the OP |
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EpicCh33se said: They are. You can see them on any of her char designs. Interesting...Someone on GameFAQs mentioned that these are Velvet's bandages around Sorey's sword. |
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Ioryogi-kun said: EpicCh33se said: It establishes that normal humans see Hellions in their original forms. I think you're mistaking that scene. Don't forget, in the game, we're seeing things through Sorey. So we see things as he sees them. Sorry if I was not being clear. But yes, that's what I meant. If regular people only saw the original forms, then Alisha shouldn't have been able to see Lunarre transform, and keep seeing his human form instead. |
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Yohimo_asakura said: Damn it, WHY? WHY didn't they use original opening from the game T.T It's just FREAKING AMAZING (thank me later): P.S Unlimited Budget works no.2? I loved the game OP too, but this one is still pretty niiice~ |
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| Leave it to @Fai, to not diappoint when it comes to series such as this lol Anyway, the production value for this is godlike and I dunno what Fai was watching but what little CG that we got in this was nowhere near the quality of Berserk's This was the first part of the prologue so I'll save my judgement on the events of this episode until next week but so far I'm quite intrigued by what happened and the lore |
CC9ers said: Kindara said: The game is definitely worth the $20, although it is probably one of the weaker titles in terms of Tales games. Not sure if you've played any of them, but they are all relatively fun for the most part. I didn't find the story to be that great though, but hopefully people enjoy the anime. Ufotable always handles Tales very well. I've played Symphonia and Vesperia. I had planned on just watching the anime instead of playing the game but since it is apparently going largely original, I may just go ahead and get the game instead since I love the setting and soundtrack. I've heard the characters are some of the worst in the series though so hopefully the anime handles them better at least. Unfortunately what you heard is right. The whole cast besides one character in particular is completely bland. Sorey might be the lamest MC in all of Tales history. Regardless, the game had a pretty good battle system besides having a garbage camera. I'm hoping Ufotable can make the cast look at least more interesting this time around. I found the world in Zesteria to be very beautiful, so hopefully they can back it up with some better written characters and story as well. Fingers crossed. |
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EpicCh33se said: Ioryogi-kun said: I think you're mistaking that scene. Don't forget, in the game, we're seeing things through Sorey. So we see things as he sees them. Sorry if I was not being clear. But yes, that's what I meant. If regular people only saw the original forms, then Alisha shouldn't have been able to see Lunarre transform, and keep seeing his human form instead. Hahaha don't worry about it. I love Zestiria to bits, but even I admit the game likes to contradict itself on some aspects of the story. The whole situation with Lunarre is one such thing. Hopefully, the anime can explain more especially since it looks like it's going to a more of an original story direction, what with Alisha getting more focus. I can't help but think, why didn't Bamco put this kind of effort to give Alisha more backstory... |
| Really don't know how to feel about this episode. Animation was godly, sound was great too and the OP was nice. Other than that, everything else just felt average. As someone who has never played the game, I found this episode to be extremely confusing. I have no idea what is going on to the point where I couldn't give a crap about anything that happened in this episode. |
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antonn said: Why's the chick from Berseria in this? To sell the new game, duh. |
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| zestiria is a mess of a game but this might be able to salvage it somewhat is what i want to say but this episode opened up a new realm of possible shitstorms this could cause, with the emphasis on velvet in the opening and with that dragon that wasnt in the game being introduced this episode i think its fully possible this isnt an actualy adaption of zestiria but rather a retarded fanfic tier crossover that winds up completely spoiling the new tales game tales of berseria, a game that looks like an outright apology for how shitty zestiria was. I'm almost expecting that dragon in this episode to wind up being velvet as for the ep itself, it was meh, the directing is pretty poor and jumps around too halphhazardly i swear that better be all its there for, just a few flashbacks to sell the game and maybe tie some things into the lore but im really expecting the absolute worst case scenario here, zestiria is not a foe to take lightly, this game while not the abomination some people make it out to be has a tendency to suck up anything good and spew out mediocrity, it honestly should be a fair warning to any anime only viewers that like it to let their expectations down unless this is an entirely new story or really reworked plot from the game cause it does not go in a good direction. |
JizzyHitlerJul 3, 2016 7:55 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |