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Jul 3, 2016 1:21 PM

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So Subaru you are falling into madness...

I wonder if he starts shouting random gaming nonsense anytime soon. If he does, it isn't that bad from him as it is what he did from the very start.


The narrative seems to have completely forgotten he is a gamer, considering how shocked he is at fantasy-elf-racism trope, which anyone who played games would react with "no shit, duh" instead.
Jul 3, 2016 1:25 PM
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Fai said:
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I wonder if he starts shouting random gaming nonsense anytime soon. If he does, it isn't that bad from him as it is what he did from the very start.


The narrative seems to have completely forgotten he is a gamer, considering how shocked he is at fantasy-elf-racism trope, which anyone who played games would react with "no shit, duh" instead.


At this point you're looking for issues to nitpick. Reading about racism is different than actually experiencing racism, bro.
Jul 3, 2016 1:25 PM

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Subaru, do you understand? As of right now, you can't do a thing. Arrgh, he's pissing me off right now, but hopefully someone will knock some sense into him. I was kind of hoping he'd die and come back to some save point. Though I get his predicament...

Rem noooooo...


Welp RBD. Switch up a few words keep what's her neck from leaving in the night. etc. etc.

Otherwise this one was better than last week even though it was mostly a bunch of talking. Not like that doesn't help along with the story. Can't say I'm thrilled too much with Subaru's attitude largely unchanging with the exception of him finding ways to become strong for Emilia. Though this story just proves he doesn't really have a choice and he pretty much has to go head first no matter how things appear. I couldn't imaginge Roswell getting his ass kicked, but from the looks of it it may have happened. "Logically" speak he would've just been a dumbass and prolly gotten killed already. But under these circumstances, it's warranted. Like I mentioned in another thread it's understandable since he's seen Emilia get chopped in two, he sees pretty much what happens by sitting on the fence.

Putting his drive to "protect smiles" as people have referred to it to the side I see him very similar to two well known characters' predicaments; one is Luke Skywalker and two is Spiderman. The former reminds me of how Luke, against the wishes of one of the most powerful and last remaining Jedi he chose to confront Vader prematurely. In the ensuing battle he lost his hand, was nearly killed and forced to bear the pain of acknowledging Vader as his father, something that could've at least broken him at the time had he further been exposed (i.e. captured brought to the emperor). Much like how he simply couldn't stand by and watch someone he cared about be killed (even worse since as mentioned earlier that already happened) repeatedly finds out just how much of a liability he is to Emilia in the last two episodes. Ultimately he's not and hence why he was so pent-up frustrated towards Emilia's attitude towards his actions (which was in a way his hand being chopped off in spite of trying).

The second refers to Peter being shafted by a manager at a fight club only to willfully let the man who robs him immediately robs the manager pas right by him. Sadly the robber steals a car to escape and in the struggle with the driver he gravely injures him, and as many know Peter's uncle is the driver. Reminds me of the death of Rem in one of the loops. He was so horrified by her death but it forced him to realize that even if he chooses to hide away people around him will die. Unable to bear the pain her sister feels he chooses to reverse things.

I mean, I get Subaru, I really do. Despite my lack of interest in him at his core His reasons through the eyes of the audience are justifiable. I think his seemingly obsessive attachment to Emilia is a symptom of what he's experienced being murdered Several times, watching her die and possibly what he was before entering this world. Sadly, he is not infallible, nor is he exceptional, especially by this world's standards. So there's a lot of torment he'll be going through. And the people around him will never truly get it. The powers that be have ensured that.
Jul 3, 2016 1:25 PM

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Faragoo said:

Well, he is just a 18yo high school student who don't know anything about the world he is in, and even less about its political situation, and he jump in a very serious and important discussion about who will lead the country, and basically said "uh, dude, racism is bad"... And he keep making it worse the whole episode, and after that ? Well he is not even sorry and keep doing more stupid stuff.
I don't know where this is going but I don't like it for now


Funny because for a serious discussion about who will lead the country people are denying Emilia right to lead because of something as retarded as racism. I understand why done since it happens in right life (look at 2008 US Elections) but speaking out against stupidity and irrational behavior is not dumb.
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They bowed to him!! Must mean that they've acknowledged Subaru as one of them. As the Witch favors him.


This is quite strange and it seems to be the complete opposite.


@CC9ers I agree with that.


I agree that the must sense the witch on him and respect that enough to not kill him. Let's be honest they could have wiped him in a second, they're so fast its ridiculous. That ending was Strong, seeing Rem die :.....(

Rem is quickly cementing herself as best girl as well. I feel bad for her bc she clearly loves Subaru as he changed her life and he's not going to feel that back due to his obsession with Emilia. That bedroom scene where she said save a little bit of that for me.

I hope Subaru realizes what he is up against now, this enemy isn't some simple mind beast. It seems like they're organized and lethal. To take down the whole village and Rem is beyond something Subaru can handle. It seems they must likely killed everyone in the mansion as well. I doubt it was just Rem but just speculating. Amazing episode this week.
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Jul 3, 2016 1:29 PM

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Zalmox1s said:

I agree, the development does make sense, it's not that which I`m contesting, but I still think it's too sudden and mechanic, and not really that organic. It should have been more gradual, aproaching bit by bit to the current state, rather than him being somehow in one episode, and a completely different person 2 episodes later, during which it did not even a week [iirc].


That's because the circumstances drastically changed in the blink of an eye. Suddenly Emilia was summoned to a place far far away which he isn't allowed at. This little distance to his fire in the dark made him escalate.
Jul 3, 2016 1:30 PM

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Ok I switch over to Rem as best girl xD.

Good episode with a nice new OP

5/5
Jul 3, 2016 1:31 PM

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Sad Feellings =(, hahahahaha!

Jul 3, 2016 1:34 PM
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Why?....
The hangcliffers...
The feelz intensifying.
i'm dying right now.
Jul 3, 2016 1:34 PM

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Rem is quickly cementing herself as best girl as well. I feel bad for her bc she clearly loves Subaru as he changed her life


And Emilia saved his life and gave him a place in this world he would have had otherwise. Nobody would have done that for him. I don't understand we some people don't realize the Emilia and the village are his life now. If they are abandon he has nothing.

Subaru isn't wrong about what he's doing, just about the way his going about it.
Jul 3, 2016 1:35 PM
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I don't get Subaru. When he should be quiet and listen, he's loud, screams and goes off on rants. I get he's frustrated and is being treated with condescension by many, but observing, not being rash will avoid him much pain and grief.
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Jul 3, 2016 1:35 PM

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Besides everything in this episode, I strongly noticed for the first time "Crusch-sama" in the new OP and in that scene with Subaru as well, and made me realize what a great character she can become.
Jul 3, 2016 1:36 PM
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Cmterio said:
Sad Feellings =(, hahahahaha!



omg... You did not this ... :c
Jul 3, 2016 1:38 PM

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iRels said:


They bowed to him!! Must mean that they've acknowledged Subaru as one of them. As the Witch favors him.


That seems very plausible given that they never attempted to attack him in the first place
Jul 3, 2016 1:38 PM

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Edwyns said:
Cmterio said:
Sad Feellings =(, hahahahaha!



omg... You did not this ... :c


NOOOOOOOOOOOOO HE WASN'T READY XD

dude i'm dead.
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This episode was intense, this is actually the Re:Zero I and most fell in love with, it's intense, it's gory, and our MC is suffering. I'm not saying I don't like plot development, but I was waiting for this, for quit a while, while reading the manga of the current arc to understand what's happening here.

This is a splendid work of art, it's well written and well animated, this might just be my favorite anime of all time. Subaru's character development is so convincing I sometimes believe he is real (even though it's sometimes flawed) he is suffering so much but it's all for the character to grow and blossom into a strong individual.

This is just the beginning *evil grim*

Jul 3, 2016 1:39 PM

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iRels said:


They bowed to him!! Must mean that they've acknowledged Subaru as one of them. As the Witch favors him.
I did get that same vibe.

It reminded me of the second time Leon in RE4 bumped into Mendez. Fam gets choked up and at the last minute Mendez releases him citing he carries the same blood as them (He was injected with the parasite moments earlier).
Jul 3, 2016 1:39 PM

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Gal3riel said:
i see its not easy for people to emphasize with characters

Because that usually requires the use of the brain, which many people don't bother doing sometimes. They'll look for the smallest reasons to criticize a character without taking the time to understand the reason why they're acting like a "douche" or a "bitch."
People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime.

Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait.

MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol.


Jul 3, 2016 1:40 PM
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Does anybody else find the background CGI to be distracting?
Jul 3, 2016 1:43 PM

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Rem is quickly cementing herself as best girl as well. I feel bad for her bc she clearly loves Subaru as he changed her life


And Emilia saved his life and gave him a place in this world he would have had otherwise. Nobody would have done that for him. I don't understand we some people don't realize the Emilia and the village are his life now. If they are abandon he has nothing.

Subaru isn't wrong about what he's doing, just about the way his going about it.


Never said he was wrong all I said was I pitied Rem. As of now she is the only one who believes in Subaru as even Emilia has washed her hands of him. Also Rem saved his life as well ;)

I think that is part of his madness right now as well. Emilia did basically abandon him, and he is in denial about it. This drives him further into despair.
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Fai said:
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I wonder if he starts shouting random gaming nonsense anytime soon. If he does, it isn't that bad from him as it is what he did from the very start.


The narrative seems to have completely forgotten he is a gamer, considering how shocked he is at fantasy-elf-racism trope, which anyone who played games would react with "no shit, duh" instead.

Are you serious? You're arguing that GAME KNOWLEDGE WOULD WORK?
Hell why don't we use hentai logic, in which elves are living onaholes.
Jul 3, 2016 1:44 PM

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I really hate Subaru Someone should just punch the living daylights out Him he is so annoying his obssession with Emilia is unhealthy.

I want to see this guy suffer more so he can have reality check and see for himself the reality of his situation. Subaru is such idiot and hopeless moron.

Jul 3, 2016 1:44 PM

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Yooooo... the first part of this episode was rather meh but the second part is mind blowing yet again.

This arc is going in complete opposite direction of what I thought it will be when it started and this new direction is awesome and I finally see THE DARK part of this story that people were speaking about at the being. Yes it is dark and it is glorious.


PS: New OP though, nowhere as good as the first one. Although that's because first OP was godly.
Jul 3, 2016 1:46 PM

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To the people who cry about how pathetic subaru is and how his character is doing a 180, please drop the series like now.

You only look at the surface of things and dont use your brains at all ¬_¬


But Subaru is definition of moron and he is pathectic he better be real man and start using his brians for change

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i see its not easy for people to emphasize with characters

Because that usually requires the use of the brain, which many people don't bother doing sometimes. They'll look for the smallest reasons to criticize a character without taking the time to understand the reason why they're acting like a "douche" or a "bitch."


Agreed analyzing character development is a big part of respecting great pieces of art. This is a quality that many people lack on this site from the forums I have read.
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Jul 3, 2016 1:48 PM

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Well that was a very intense episode!

Fuck, did everyone or almost everyone Emila knew die?

~Great episode!!!
Jul 3, 2016 1:50 PM

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I like how shipping is pointless in this series xD
Jul 3, 2016 1:52 PM

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There are people that like the original op? Lol I'm surprised.

I've always preferred the ED. And I like this new op a lot.
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Jul 3, 2016 1:53 PM
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My opinion on the matter concurs with those who say that the past few episodes the MC's "annoying behavior, out of nowhere" are NOT out of nowhere.
In fact, it's quite the contrary - and perhaps this is the purpose of the show:

Given how MC's ability of rebirth after death, which can admittedly significantly reduce the conflict, tension, death and tradgedy (since the viewer knows we can reset - for now at least )- it is my opinion that this recent behavior, and possibly main theme throughout the show, is to illustrate just how traumatic psychologically witnessing the horrors of the dark side humanity is for anyone, but especially our MC. I believe that the emphasis of the show is not politics or fantasy, but of psychological exploration of the highs and lows of humanity. I agree with those who say this is about escapism - to a degree. However, I would add that this is about witnessing the psychological evolution, the lack of understanding mental illness, the isolation it can bring even between you and your closest relationships, and perseverance needed to keep moving forward even while having your hopes crushed.
I don't think I have articulated fully this assessment, so look at these points below which are what I'm using to base this claim on:


He was a NEET (so he has not assimilated socially to say the least, so his past is likely complex but we can conclude he was probably isolated),
who has been plucked from his home into a fantasy world (so no friends/ comfort zone),
Though he thought his familiarity with video games he would be able to master/ predict/ succeed in parallel world (a sense of hope and new high of starting life in an environment he prefers and is familiar with),
The idea that he will encounter and win the true love of a damsel in distress (a high of being given an escape from his isolation),
The opportunity to matter and make a difference via his helping Emilia and the lost child in the beginning (a high of having a sense of self worth, value, and mattering in this world),

But then from that point on of building up hope and restoring the MC's confidence while also his character's false sense of believing he is no longer isolated or insignificant: it has been an ever increasing in severity- in the gradations, the damage and assault on his Ego, identity, and psychology.

So after the initial highs, it is important to remember that he had a cause/goal/faith in Emilia that keeps him going. Nevertheless, here are the lows that take him to his previous psychological depths and beyond:


Being unable to save himself or someone he cares for, repeatedly (weakness and witnessing horrible brutality and tragedy),
Having once reached the (presumably) new heights for the first time of being close to Emilia, and building other friendships (this is a NEET, they matter a lot) , yet no one remembering and still not trusting you,
been given a power/curse of revival, but not allowed to tell anyone about (further isolation AND having being forced to face not only your shortcomings but their dire consequences),
Having the stench of the witch (being discriminated by those he cares for, and not understanding why),
Not understand your circumstances, no one to help you, and no one trusts you (another obvious low),
Being helpless to the curse, and witnessing everyone being killed due to his own self preservation (another horrible low),
Seeing twin sisters suffering past and witnessing their deaths in his place,
Having children attacked and being again, powerless. Though at the same time your friend suffers to save you(this must be hard),
I'm sure there are more but you get the picture, this guy has been through and seen so much...those images likely haunt him, as does the sense of powerlessness.

Yet through all of that the pillar that kept his sanity was his relationship and hope of a future with Emilia.

But then the breaking point is these past few episodes, which IMO explains perfectly his recent unpleasant behavior - his thinking is obviously skewed- because his pillar Emilia doesn't understand him in this time line the way he prefers, and she chose to abandon him. This is what leads to this psychological break and why he is now selfishly acting like an annoying ass. But the poster who said this was due to his delusions and skewed thinking is spot on for the above mentioned, and many other reasons.

That's why, IMO - this shows main theme is dealing with the psychological evolution of not only war, politics, and romance but also adolescence, isolation, and mental illness.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Remmmmmmm !!!!!
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There are people that like the original op? Lol I'm surprised.

I've always preferred the ED. And I like this new op a lot.


the first op have great song but shitty visual , the seconde OP have great visual but shitty song
Jul 3, 2016 1:56 PM

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When Will this Subaru die so we can have the old one back?
The times i wanted to facepalm and Facewall were too many this episode....

Rem :/

I hope this wakes him up from his Emilia-obsessiveness (which, for the life of me, i can't understnad)
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AMAZING episode. I will have to disagree with most people when it comes to the opening, I person strongly dislike the music, but the scenes of Subaru "suffocating" and stuff were quite cleverly put in there. the episode on itself though was pure gold. First of all, I want to thank the studios that make this show happen for making the episode 26 minutes long. You have my respect.

Subaru's whole being, his psychology breaking apart was amazingly depicted thought the episode. Not as intensely as in episode 13 (facial expressions expressions in the ending scene) but still, pretty intensely. His making himself look significant and "powerful" ("I will make it all work", "Emilia is doomed without me" or something like that) as well as the fact that he alienated everything and everyone that was not consistent with his view of what was happening (especially Reinhard who was worried about him and Rem, who wanted to protect him) just straight up shows he is going insane.

Did they actually kill Rem? Noooooo :'(

5/5
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The Darkness is back...YAY

And Myth & Roid is just on point as hell with this. I mean, that artist has been infecting my playlist for the past three seasons. My goodness, just loving it.
Don't believe the hype.
Jul 3, 2016 1:57 PM
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_Hans_ said:
To the people who cry about how pathetic subaru is and how his character is doing a 180, please drop the series like now.

You only look at the surface of things and dont use your brains at all ¬_¬


But Subaru is definition of moron and he is pathectic he better be real man and start using his brians for change

man people like you are still here,
Jul 3, 2016 1:59 PM

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And Emilia saved his life and gave him a place in this world he would have had otherwise. Nobody would have done that for him. I don't understand we some people don't realize the Emilia and the village are his life now. If they are abandon he has nothing.

Subaru isn't wrong about what he's doing, just about the way his going about it.


Never said he was wrong all I said was I pitied Rem. As of now she is the only one who believes in Subaru as even Emilia has washed her hands of him. Also Rem saved his life as well ;)

I think that is part of his madness right now as well. Emilia did basically abandon him, and he is in denial about it. This drives him further into despair.


Yes but that was his fault that happened. It means he needs to come to terms with his situation, fix his own mistakes and redeem himself. Not run away from his issues. Suddenly latching on to Rem just because she shows him some affection won't do that.

Of course now he has deal with this new problem on top of that. So he's in a tough spot.
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can anyone give a "what if" scenario, where Subaru instead just stayed at the castle the entire time (i.e. not going to the royal selection)?

G+1
I want it too lmao

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They bowed to him!! Must mean that they've acknowledged Subaru as one of them. As the Witch favors him.


That seems very plausible given that they never attempted to attack him in the first place


It is probably because he has the scent of the witch all over him. Since they are the witch cult and since Rem knew the scent of the witch probably through their encounter when Rem was young, I would guess that the stronger/ higher in the hierarchy a cultist is, the more scent of the witch he/she emits (that's a theory, don't quote me on that)

So the were probably all "notice me sempaaaiiii" XD
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MozillaFennekin said:
Subaru, just take Rem. It's okay to go for second place.

Ermm, i think you got something wrong there body. Rem is 1st place :p
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That seems very plausible given that they never attempted to attack him in the first place


It is probably because he has the scent of the witch all over him. Since they are the witch cult and since Rem knew the scent of the witch probably through their encounter when Rem was young, I would guess that the stronger/ higher in the hierarchy a cultist is, the more scent of the witch he/she emits (that's a theory, don't quote me on that)

So the were probably all "notice me sempaaaiiii" XD


lol well Subaru noticed them alright
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MozillaFennekin said:
Subaru, just take Rem. It's okay to go for second place.


Not that i care about shipping but .... you know like 70% of the fandom prefear rem over emillia right ?

having rem mean having the first place xD
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Someone knows the title of the new ending song? I like it
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kidlat020 said:
can anyone give a "what if" scenario, where Subaru instead just stayed at the castle the entire time (i.e. not going to the royal selection)?

G+1
I want it too lmao


He woudln't have maked himself a joke in the eyes of everyone , not that he changed anything ..
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I really love this anime but it hurts me too much!!!
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What a great episode, it was so intense.
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Devil_Slayer said:
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Subaru, just take Rem. It's okay to go for second place.


Not that i care about shipping but .... you know like 70% of the fandom prefear rem over emillia right ?

having rem mean having the first place xD
#RemForBestGurl
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The new opening is edgelord AF. I liked it. It kinda gave me hopes Subaru would overal be more serious. And he pretty much was though his train of thought is still like it was in the past. The sword training made me happy. One because we got past the bullshit "I wanna become stronger" monologues, nothing wrong with that, and two because he seemed to better grasp what he needed to be if he wanted to protect Emilia.

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Subaru, just take Rem. It's okay to go for second place.

Ermm, i think you got something wrong there body. Rem is 1st place :p


As the show is pushing her, she is second. But I genuinely enjoy Rem on-screen then Emilia. Boorus Emilia is best girl so far.
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This is quite strange and it seems to be the complete opposite.


They're from the Witch's Cult. Normally, Subaru would've been killed. But one came closer to him. Inspected him. Then the others surrounded him and paid respect.


Well I don't think so, we need to check some facts before because it was made to looks like cultists from the witch but for me it is really hard to believe in such thing because:

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What was the ending song that was playing when Rem was killed?
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The new op was for Rem's fanbase
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