Are you one?
Yes
33.0%
166
No
51.9%
261
Not sure
15.1%
76
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AltoRoark99 said: KonaKoffee4 said: Idk why people like lolis and shotas, but people like a lot of shit that I don't understand so fuck it. Well, finding them adorable is one thing. Finding them sexually attractive is another. They adorable sometimes, and sexuality appealing never. I don't make a huge deal out of it if people do find them either way, but to me they're boring and ugly like 99% of the time. I can't hate on usagi drop, but that girl was a cool loli. |
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| I'm a lolicon . But not in a sexual manner . I like lolis .Prillya is one of the most beautiful things to be invented . BUT FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE DON'T LET THEM BE TSUNDERE AS WELL |
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| I would believe so, lolis are extremely popular in the anime community. There are a lot of loli clubs and users with loli in their username on this site. No I'm not one. |
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DrGeroCreation said: u wut m8? you are dealing with forces beyond your comprehensionNo I'm not one. |
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kyutora said: I will throw holy water to keep the forces at bay.DrGeroCreation said: u wut m8? you are dealing with forces beyond your comprehensionNo I'm not one. |
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>It's 2016 and people still think this topic is "debate-worthy" |
| No, the anime community is filled with entitled watchers. |
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| I sure hope not, this community already has a bad reputation. |
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| Many creepy people in Japan are, thats why we keep getting idiotic lolicon anime |
| I think loli are cute and make any anime better. I don't mind them involved in sexual situations, but my tolerance for really bad things (like rape) happening to them is lower. Actually I prefer small-breasted, but not flat girls when it comes to sexual situations, but my strike zone is wide. So I voted "lolicon". KonaKoffee4 said: Idk why people like lolis and shotas, but people like a lot of shit that I don't understand so fuck it. Humans, and many other mammals, have a genetically programmed soft spot for children. "Children" is defined widely enough that we humans have soft spot for, say, kittens! And it's not unknown for female animals to take care of human children. Anime children hit that soft spot full-power. They are more childlike than real children. Some people say that the soft spot only starts working as a person becomes old enough to be a parent, but I am not sure of it. Anyway, there seems to be a cognitive trap that makes you see this soft spot as sexual attraction. I think it's most likely to happen to people who have trouble constructing any relationship as non-sexual, because they were not loved as children enough, and did not have enough friendship in their lives. callmetheBigD said: the sheer number of cases warrants closer analysis 1) There are estimated to be 7.4 billion (10^9) people on Earth. No matter what makes a person attracted to children, that would be a lot of people. 2) Journalists are sure to report any case of child abuse that is discovered. Because it guarantees outrage, and because journalists themselves are not free from the instincts that make us want to protect children. 3) Journalists are often dishonest here. They would uncover a case of teacher sleeping with teenage pupils, and report the teacher as a pedophile. These cases are statutory rape and abuse of authority, but being sexually attracted to teenagers is normal. callmetheBigD said: With all that said though, I feel that at least somewhere deep down within us, pedophilia is something everyone feels. Im not trying to defend it, but I just feel that with all the evidence and cases out there, that pedophilia may be a bigger part of the human psyche then we would care to admit. And it deserves a bigger look and analysis that we as a society have been giving it. Even you've noticed it, with the sheer amount of lolicon content available in anime today. You might be right in that a lot of people might find children sexually attractive, but note that most sources state that pedophilia is about being more attracted to children than to teenagers and adults. Wikipedia said: Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger. Also, I too feel that the current social view of pedophilia is unhealthy and prevents the best possible outcome. With the stigma attached to pedophilia, we are unable to properly study, understand or cure this state. We aren't even properly mitigating the worst possible consequences. |
flannan said: KonaKoffee4 said: Idk why people like lolis and shotas, but people like a lot of shit that I don't understand so fuck it. Humans, and many other mammals, have a genetically programmed soft spot for children. "Children" is defined widely enough that we humans have soft spot for, say, kittens! And it's not unknown for female animals to take care of human children. Anime children hit that soft spot full-power. They are more childlike than real children. Some people say that the soft spot only starts working as a person becomes old enough to be a parent, but I am not sure of it. Anyway, there seems to be a cognitive trap that makes you see this soft spot as sexual attraction. I think it's most likely to happen to people who have trouble constructing any relationship as non-sexual, because they were not loved as children enough, and did not have enough friendship in their lives. Wow lulz, you know everything about me...too bad you don't lol. Besides, I never mentioned lolis or shotas being sexualized, you did. So it's funny you brought that up first lol. |
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KonaKoffee4 said: flannan said: Humans, and many other mammals, have a genetically programmed soft spot for children. "Children" is defined widely enough that we humans have soft spot for, say, kittens! And it's not unknown for female animals to take care of human children. Anime children hit that soft spot full-power. They are more childlike than real children. Some people say that the soft spot only starts working as a person becomes old enough to be a parent, but I am not sure of it. Anyway, there seems to be a cognitive trap that makes you see this soft spot as sexual attraction. I think it's most likely to happen to people who have trouble constructing any relationship as non-sexual, because they were not loved as children enough, and did not have enough friendship in their lives. Wow lulz, you know everything about me...too bad you don't lol. Sorry, I was using the generic "you", I did not mean to imply that you, KonaKoffee4, or any other poster on these forums who is not me, is sexually attracted to children. I do not claim to understand anything about the way you think, we're most likely from different backgrounds and even different genders. KonaKoffee4 said: Besides, I never mentioned lolis or shotas being sexualized, you did. So it's funny you brought that up first lol. There were plenty of people bringing up the difference between sexual sexual attraction and parental instincts already. I did not knew which one you meant, so I said it anyway. |
| Definitely nope, I've never been able to identify myself with that. |
| Mm.. Mind sharing the manga title? xD |
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_Esper_ said: Mm.. Mind sharing the manga title? xD http://myanimelist.net/manga/32833/Himegoto |
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ichii_1 said: Thanks buddy. Just to let you know, this is for research purpose only._Esper_ said: Mm.. Mind sharing the manga title? xD http://myanimelist.net/manga/32833/Himegoto |
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| The idea of liking characters and being sexually attracted to them because they look like children sounds fucked up to me.. There's some sort of creepiness that goes with a lot of anime and merch these days. I don't see a problem with liking young (or young-looking) anime characters and thinking they're "cute" but as far as I know, lolicon and shotacon define as sexual terms. It's disgusting. |
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| Oneesan characters will always trump lolis. The truth has been spoken. |
| Why not both? Loli Onee-sama.... xD |
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_Esper_ said: Why not both? Loli Onee-sama.... xD dayum......... you got some skillz brah |
| Well, I have other variety of fetishes from normal to wierd, so I'm not even sure if I'm 100% a lolicon. Also, yeah. If it's sexual attraction then no. If I just like lolis for their cuteness, then yes. |
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| what is the actual question? do you like lolis? do you think loli is hot? do you think real little girls are hot? cause i don't consider them lolis lol anyway, i prefer curves obv, but i still love lolis and flat chested girls in anime |
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Dandy-san said: flannan said: what happens if you don't have a soft spot for children?Humans, and many other mammals, have a genetically programmed soft spot for children. "Children" is defined widely enough that we humans have soft spot for, say, kittens! And it's not unknown for female animals to take care of human children. Anime children hit that soft spot full-power. They are more childlike than real children. Some people say that the soft spot only starts working as a person becomes old enough to be a parent, but I am not sure of it. Anyway, there seems to be a cognitive trap that makes you see this soft spot as sexual attraction. I think it's most likely to happen to people who have trouble constructing any relationship as non-sexual, because they were not loved as children enough, and did not have enough friendship in their lives. Other people will think you have no heart, I guess? |
| I'm not into lolies\shotas, but I think a lot of anime fans are, because they are cute |
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| 'nother random lolicon checking in. |
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| well you know Lolis are love lollis are life they are amazing ! |
Z-Dante said: What's your definition of lolicon ? if you say lolicon = pedo , then no one is actually one Definition of lolicon is clear as day so i do not see why you even raising this question. Lolicon - Short for lolita complex, as first coined from Nabokov's book "Lolita" means having sexual attraction to underage female. (sometimes it's more strict with age) Pedophilia is almost the same just border in terms. As it's sexual attraction to any underage person. (Even tho lately people insist on using it a little different.) Note feeling sexual attraction is enough for both. Also yes person with lolita complex is a pedophile. Since she is not presented in any sexual way in anime she is not loli. |
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| Lolicon means being sexually attracted to young girls, not just finding them cute, right? *looks at the poll* If so, holy shit... someone call the FBI, because MAL is Pedo-Central.  |
Wensbane said: Lolicon means being sexually attracted to young girls, not just finding them cute, right? *looks at the poll* If so, holy shit... someone call the FBI, because MAL is Pedo-Central. You are correct, tho don't forget how many people in mal might don't know correct definitions. Tho 27.5% is still quite disturbing. |
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| No im only into age 18-30 atm it really surprises me how theres so much loli lovers here in the anime community... |
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Temoze said: Z-Dante said: What's your definition of lolicon ? if you say lolicon = pedo , then no one is actually one Definition of lolicon is clear as day so i do not see why you even raising this question. Lolicon - Short for lolita complex, as first coined from Nabokov's book "Lolita" means having sexual attraction to underage female. (sometimes it's more strict with age) Pedophilia is almost the same just border in terms. As it's sexual attraction to any underage person. (Even tho lately people insist on using it a little different.) Note feeling sexual attraction is enough for both. Also yes person with lolita complex is a pedophile. Since she is not presented in any sexual way in anime she is not loli. Just so I am clear, when we talk about lolis on the MAL forums we literally mean Lolita complex or just a kid? As in sexual desires towards young kids? Or do we simply mean a character depicted as a child? I know irl the definition means something that most the users on here say it doesn't mean. So I get confused if people on these forums are making their own definition or what. Because I agree with what you stated above, but I think most of the users on here see the term lolicon to have a different meaning. Idk, I get confused by yall sometimes haha. |
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| I like lolis but not in a sexual way. 2D only ofc. Fack lil kids |
Z-Dante said: What's your definition of lolicon ? if you say lolicon = pedo , then no one is actually one glad someone else other than me thinks like that .-....Kinda tragedydesu said: they are way beyond cute Q^Qi believe some people like lolis because they are cute nothing less nothing more Milk_is_Special said: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHLol, not even close. Finding small things cute is normal for the human brain --> Finding young small girls/boys (Gender equality ofcourse) cute is normal. Wanting to fuck the living shit out of them while they are bleeding and screaming out in pain is not. |
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| @KonaKoffee4 That is one of the reason why i use actual definitions, to avoid confusion. I do encourage other user to do so too, words have their definitions and there is no reason to make another ones, especially for something so specific as Lolita Complex. The problem with most user definitions also doesn't not come from the fact they don't actually know it, at least most of the time from my experience. Because when they are presented with actual definition they most likely refuse it. The main reason i see is to minimize the wall between the two terms. Which i also see as the main problem with usage of terms. Not only this letting people use self defense like "Attracted to aesthetic cuteness" argument. But also makes it unclear what they even mean by word lolicon, as the word in itself means a pedophile that is attracted to underage females only. And if we would go a little deeper, original way would be more like females that are still not fully developed in respect to female body qualities. Loosening terms like that almost always have negative effects as it makes statements unclear. So yeah i propose that we should use words to say what they actually mean by definition. It would be pretty hard other way, for example if some people would use word sun and by that would mean moon, others would correct them, so why not in this particular scenario? @Soli18 You just contradicted yourself, by saying "I like under-aged girls presented in a sexual way but not in a sexual way" --Nero-- said: tragedydesu said: they are way beyond cute Q^Qi believe some people like lolis because they are cute nothing less nothing more And you are way beyond understanding what you are talking about. |
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| Seems like a lot of confusion that could be cleared up by just referring to non-sexualised little girls as "little girls" and sexualised little girls as "lolis" |
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Bobby2Hands said: Seems like a lot of confusion that could be cleared up by just referring to non-sexualised little girls as "little girls" and sexualised little girls as "lolis" That's the whole point i am trying to make, is it so hard for people to use words by their meaning. |
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| @Temoze My bad I worded it poorly. I meant that I like them in a non-sexualized way. So fully dressed and not naked or shit. Edit: And by the way Loli means this: An underage child, often depicted in sexual poses in hentai movies/images. "Often" so not always. |
Soli18 said: @Temoze My bad I worded it poorly. I meant that I like them in a non-sexualized way. So fully dressed and not naked or shit. Edit: And by the way Loli means this: An underage child, often depicted in sexual poses in hentai movies/images. "Often" so not always. As a wording in this definition is not exactly clear and so is source this can be interpreted two ways: It's a modern definition used because of people that don't know what lolita complex really means, an theeir made confusion. Read Nabokov's "Lolita" to get where the word is coming from, you will get what it should mean. Second, as in not at all times present in sexual way, tho still presented. (You not gonna have every scene sexual.) For little girls that are not presented in any specific way we have a different term, which is - little girls. |
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Z-Dante said: What's your definition of lolicon ? if you say lolicon = pedo , then no one is actually one theres probably a few hidden among us but no one is gonna openly admit it |
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Temoze said: Z-Dante said: What's your definition of lolicon ? if you say lolicon = pedo , then no one is actually one Definition of lolicon is clear as day so i do not see why you even raising this question. Lolicon - Short for lolita complex, as first coined from Nabokov's book "Lolita" means having sexual attraction to underage female. (sometimes it's more strict with age) Pedophilia is almost the same just border in terms. As it's sexual attraction to any underage person. (Even tho lately people insist on using it a little different.) Note feeling sexual attraction is enough for both. Also yes person with lolita complex is a pedophile. 1) Please, replace all references to "underage" with "prepubescent" in your definition, and then we might be able to talk. Lolicon/pedophilia is a psychological condition, not a crime, thus it should not depend upon a legal age of consent/majority defined in a jurisdiction. I hate those people who make unscientific claims that being attracted to teenagers is somehow unusual. 2) Also, I trust Wikipedia's definition of pedophilia more than yours. And Wikipedia states "exclusive or primary" sexual attraction to young children. As far as I know, this is also the stance that major psychiatric organizations take. Anything more inclusive is obviously pedohunt. Which is a modern version of witch hunts, and hence evil. 3) Please, stop trying to force Japanese use of words into Western anime fan discussion. We have our own lingo, and in it, "lolicon" is about animated little girls. P.S. "please" words here are an empty formality here. Don't take it like I'm actually polite with you. |
--Nero-- said: is there a cure for lolli/pedo phlla 1) We can always redefine these things to stop being disorders to be cured. Worked fine for homosexuality. 2) No, people are too busy locking up suspected pedophiles into jails to let us scientists make any experiments. 3) Things like chemical castration and state-sanctioned murder are said to work. Of course, they do nothing to protect my hypothetical children from undiscovered pedophiles. |
--Nero-- said: Ok mate, I don't know why you thought that was so funny, but I take it as a compliment I guess?....Milk_is_Special said: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHLol, not even close. Finding small things cute is normal for the human brain --> Finding young small girls/boys (Gender equality ofcourse) cute is normal. Wanting to fuck the living shit out of them while they are bleeding and screaming out in pain is not. |
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