Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Mich666 said: What a fail of the OP, its animation was pretty horrible. And nonexistent ED too. Low budget perhaps? Other than that it was good episode, at least proved they can utilize time leap element pretty well. I also liked the scene where MC reunited with Elsa and the ending climax also wasn't half bad. Wonder how they will do next time, it would be great if they had one longer part without death, only to show the great loss of everying he worked towards. But this was certainly WTF dialogue as MC clearly didn't saved his daughter this time.  (or was he implying he saved her offscreen? cause that would be pretty lame execution -edit: and it seems poster before me was faster.. still, that only proves a] really bad failure of script supervisor (more probable) or b] something fishy is going on) I thought the OP was great. Since the static animation of these characters looked almost the same how Steins;Gate OP did it. Heck I think they put more budget animation in this OP than in Steins;Gate. It was Satella who saved the kid. You can see at the end scene of episode 2 that Satella was using the flower pin she received from the kid back in episode 1. |
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m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: The opening scene and OP explains a lot of what mechanically is happening. There are multiple Subarus in this world. Each time Subaru dies, he is replanted back to where he first appeared in this world, and a new Subaru timeline begins that lays on top of the others. Felt and other guy were killed because of Subraru's interference in timeline2; Silver elf girl told him her name was "Stella" in timeline1 because Subaru mistakenly called her that just minutes before in timeline3. hmm but it looks like this timeline is a little different than the last 3. Silver elf girl made it to the loot house before Elsa. It is very possible that subaru is wrong about the nature of his power, but this doesn't make sense. How could subaru's actions in timeline 2 effect timeline 1 when they haven't happened yet. The first thing in the op is a dead subaru going back in time so all of the subaru clones are just him from timelines where he died. The op was fucking amazing btw (even if the song was eh the visuals more than made up for it). |
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DarklordVor said: I thought the OP was great. Since the static animation of these characters looked almost the same how Steins;Gate OP did it. Heck I think they put more budget animation in this OP than in Steins;Gate. It was Satella who saved the kid. You can see at the end scene of episode 2 that Satella was using the flower pin she received from the kid back in episode 1. Can you explain to me on how it's similar with Steins;Gate? I haven't watch it in a long time. |
gust11 said: As the others above me have said and/or quoted, the merchant guy was saying that some other broke person helped his daughter (and we could thus infer) that Satella (who mentions that she is broke in the first episode) still ended up helping his daughter even without Subaru there. Oh, right, now I see it, when I read "a kid" I just didn't image her being one there (thought she was slightly older to be called such). And here I was already thinking about multiple Subarus moving around the town :D Thanks! But it seems this was spelled out better in manga:  Also, no wonder "Sattella" got earlier to the shop as there was no MC to take care of this time and she handled those three thieves a lot faster with multitude ice (scorched wall) and no collaterals (Subaru) around. |
DarkingDawning said: DarklordVor said: I thought the OP was great. Since the static animation of these characters looked almost the same how Steins;Gate OP did it. Heck I think they put more budget animation in this OP than in Steins;Gate. It was Satella who saved the kid. You can see at the end scene of episode 2 that Satella was using the flower pin she received from the kid back in episode 1. Can you explain to me on how it's similar with Steins;Gate? I haven't watch it in a long time. Hmm some similarities would be on how they put the title of the anime in statics, a lot of MC guy wandering around, still character animation with static backgrounds, etc. You can see from Steins;Gate OP how the scenes keep on changing with statics, almost felt the same with how Re:Zero did their OP changing characters scenes with statics. |
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| Oh opening and ending are amazing, especially ending but that's just me. So, they have introduced a next character Reinhart, who will probably play ?major? role in this show. I wonder if he could beat Elsa, I mean he gives impression of being really skilled figher. Umm Felt reminded me of Mayoi from Bakemonogatari when she bit MC's finger. I expected Elsa instead of Satella at the end. Maybe she will have arrived before their transaction is complete, who knows :p As anime watcher only, I think that the pacing was adequate. Looking forward to the next episode. 5/5. |
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Mich666 said: Oh, right, now I see it, when I read "a kid" I just didn't image her being one there (thought she was slightly older to be called such). And here I was already thinking about multiple Subarus moving around the town :D Thanks! But it seems this was spelled out better in manga: Also, no wonder "Sattella" got earlier to the shop as there was no MC to take care of this time and she handled those three thieves a lot faster with multitude ice (scorched wall) and no collaterals (Subaru) around. Lol yeah Subaru clones all dying in random places around town would make for a great show xD Yeah I agree when I read it in the manga it was fairly straightforward as opposed to the somewhat implied version. I guess that realization as to who the broke kid is clicks for some people and for others it doesn't. Yeah there's that, but don't forget that Subaru told Reinhard to tell Satella not to come to the loot house and that he would get her item back for her. Reinhard pretty much passed the message on and Satella ignored Subaru's message and went to the loot house anyways. In the earlier timelines she had no way of knowing where Felt would take the insignia, however in this timeline because Subaru's message actually inadvertently told her where her insignia would be, she got there earlier. Also, Reinhard is a beast ignore the words of this Re:Zero manga reader |
gust11Apr 10, 2016 5:46 PM
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DarklordVor said: Hmm some similarities would be on how they put the title of the anime in statics, a lot of MC guy wandering around, still character animation with static backgrounds, etc. You can see from Steins;Gate OP how the scenes keep on changing with statics, almost felt the same with how Re:Zero did their OP changing characters scenes with statics. I love Steins;Gate OP, it's pretty clean and easy to read even with all that static around, I won't argue on that. But this one, it seems to be full of chromatic aberration, needlessly flashing characters, messy cuts and overall it feels way to epileptic to my taste. I'm also not fan of its dark backround as it feels like they were just hiding its shortcomings. So it's like Steins;Gate OP >>>> ... >>> .... >>> Re:Zero OP for me. |
| Is the mc really getting stronger/faster? I just assumed his stuff with Felt was for comedic purposes, I mean he was still incompetent enough to run into that thief's blade, or the alley thug/thief stabbed him pretty easily, w.e happened there. |
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Note the differences below (for those who are confused whether Subaru helped the man's daughter): What you thought was said: A broke kid like you just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying the broke kid is Subaru. What was actually said: A broke kid, like you, just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying a kid similarly broke as Subaru (which was later reveled to be Emilia i.e. Fake Satella). There is a reason the commas are there in that sentence. I hope it helps. |
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| Another really good episode I really love the pacing of the series so far! :) |
shanimebib said: Note the differences below (for those who are confused whether Subaru helped the man's daughter): What you thought was said: A broke kid like you just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying the broke kid is Subaru. What was actually said: A broke kid, like you, just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying a kid similarly broke as Subaru (which was later reveled to be Emilia i.e. Fake Satella). There is a reason the commas are there in that sentence. I hope it helps. Honestly, I would of assumed he meant someone else even without the commas. I think context is way more important. I mean how would people know the difference in actual conversation if commas are the deciding factor? |
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Epicenter said: Probably comedic purposes, but it wasn't supposed to be a comedic show. It kinda broke the mood for some minutes. Is the mc really getting stronger/faster? I just assumed his stuff with Felt was for comedic purposes, I mean he was still incompetent enough to run into that thief's blade, or the alley thug/thief stabbed him pretty easily, w.e happened there. The rest was ok. |
Mich666 said: DarklordVor said: Hmm some similarities would be on how they put the title of the anime in statics, a lot of MC guy wandering around, still character animation with static backgrounds, etc. You can see from Steins;Gate OP how the scenes keep on changing with statics, almost felt the same with how Re:Zero did their OP changing characters scenes with statics. I love Steins;Gate OP, it's pretty clean and easy to read even with all that static around, I won't argue on that. But this one, it seems to be full of chromatic aberration, needlessly flashing characters, messy cuts and overall it feels way to epileptic to my taste. I'm also not fan of its dark backround as it feels like they were just hiding its shortcomings. So it's like Steins;Gate OP >>>> ... >>> .... >>> Re:Zero OP for me. You guys are just comparing the OP but incase you don't already know, Steins;Gate is tons better than this show and its dumb Subaru in every way. Okabe even figured out that a freaking banana time travelled the 1st time unlike this dumb MC with more obvious clues. |
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seal308 said: Mich666 said: But this was certainly WTF dialogue as MC clearly didn't saved his daughter this time. Elsa is also broke remember. Elsa is no broke. She is Noto Mamiko and she is ready to kill at the drop of a hat. :D |
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gust11 said: Lol yeah Subaru clones all dying in random places around town would make for a great show xD Yeah I agree when I read it in the manga it was fairly straightforward as opposed to the somewhat implied version. I guess that realization as to who the broke kid is clicks for some people and for others it doesn't. Well, I guess I acutally like this flower-implied version, the real problem is that in manga you get the answer right away whereas in anime you are left in the dark for another 15 more minutes until the end of the episode. And when you think about it, getting all clues and informations right away can be key difference here, especially since this is an anime where you have to think fast about all his previous tries and do this pretty much constantly. You can't just stop and read the line again like in novel or manga here. Not that it matters much now as the flower implication was quite comprehensible but this could get more confusing in getting whole picture later if they keep omitting some other clues. |
Mich666Apr 10, 2016 6:14 PM
shanimebib said: Note the differences below (for those who are confused whether Subaru helped the man's daughter): What you thought was said: A broke kid like you just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying the broke kid is Subaru. What was actually said: A broke kid, like you, just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying a kid similarly broke as Subaru (which was later reveled to be Emilia i.e. Fake Satella). There is a reason the commas are there in that sentence. I hope it helps. Thanks for clearing that up! I was confused too. I enjoyed episode 2 just as much as I enjoyed the first one. Great stuff. I feel that the guard that Subaru met in an alley is going to be crucial for having some form of protection; at least in the future. Now the question is will Subaru be able to save all three of them and survive in this current state. |
ernst said: Mich666 said: I love Steins;Gate OP, it's pretty clean and easy to read even with all that static around, I won't argue on that. But this one, it seems to be full of chromatic aberration, needlessly flashing characters, messy cuts and overall it feels way to epileptic to my taste. I'm also not fan of its dark backround as it feels like they were just hiding its shortcomings. So it's like Steins;Gate OP >>>> ... >>> .... >>> Re:Zero OP for me. You guys are just comparing the OP but incase you don't already know, Steins;Gate is tons better than this show and its dumb Subaru in every way. Okabe even figured out that a |
TyrelApr 10, 2016 7:05 PM
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| decent episode i was also confused thinking Subaru was already overlapping himself but the only reason i didn't read into it to much was because the merchant would of said something like a addressing him as the one that found her already, it's just killing me how slow he is on picking up on this stuff. Op is good but man i'm loving that ED |
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Mich666 said: Well, I guess I acutally like this flower-implied version, the real problem is that in manga you get the answer right away whereas in anime you are left in the dark for another 15 more minutes until the end of the episode. And when you think about it, getting all clues and informations right away can be key difference here, especially since this is an anime where you have to think fast about all his previous tries and do this pretty much constantly. You can't just stop and read the line again like in novel or manga here. Not that it matters much now as the flower implication was quite comprehensible but this could get more confusing in getting whole picture later if they keep omitting some other clues. That's a fair point, I doubt I'll be very confused seeing as how I've read the manga, but I can understand others getting confused with the omission of some small details. shanimebib said: Note the differences below (for those who are confused whether Subaru helped the man's daughter): What you thought was said: A broke kid like you just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying the broke kid is Subaru. What was actually said: A broke kid, like you, just helped my daughter after she got lost earlier. >> Implying a kid similarly broke as Subaru (which was later reveled to be Emilia i.e. Fake Satella). There is a reason the commas are there in that sentence. I hope it helps. Wow didn't even think about the commas xD I was less observant than you and naturally assumed that it was Emilia Satella due to the prior episode in which she said "I'm don't have any money on me either" or something else along those lines, in which case the only two people that we knew were broke at that point were Subaru and Emilia Satella. Although I do think it should have been pretty heavily implied just from the context. |
gust11Apr 10, 2016 6:31 PM
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Epicenter said: Honestly, I would of assumed he meant someone else even without the commas. I think context is way more important. I mean how would people know the difference in actual conversation if commas are the deciding factor? The pause in the sentence, perhaps. The word to word replacement with no structure would be along the following line: Just a while back — similar to you a broke (note that he didn't mention whether the broke was a kid or a grown up or an old man or anything) — lost daughter of mine was helped by — somewhat as you see. While it make sense to pick from the context, many didn't. It may go unnoticed and thus the confusion. Dunno, maybe they could better structure the sentence? |
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| This episode wasn't as exciting as the last one but at least we're finally seeing Subaru realize he's respawning each time he dies. Felt is growing on me, but I'm glad to see that Emilia is back next episode. I really hope they do some character development on her next episode! |
Strident said: Subaru on the other hand got sent back in time. He was given several incidents of deja vu, and is self aware. But he needed to die 3 times before he could put two and two together, and that's just inept. However, from the motion of the events in Re:Zero, we saw that Subaru only remembers a little bit from the flashbacks probably due to the shock he had as seen in 1B when he can't hear clearly the Apple seller. So he shrugged it off as a hallucination or he can't remember what happened on that night. |
DarklordVorApr 10, 2016 6:45 PM
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| It's funny how we're talking about the MC being dense, but then some people here seem to be just as dense when it comes to spoilers. I'm glad I've already watched S;G. |
Strident said: shanimebib said: @DarklordVor, @Strident Can you please edit your posts and add spoiler tags for S;G? There are those who haven't seen it. It has been donez. Thanks. I hope you guys are more careful from now on. :) @DarklordVor, you still have it in this post. Strident said: shanimebib said: Elsa is no broke. She is Noto Mamiko and she is ready to kill at the drop of a hat. :D Pretty sure seal308 means Emilia/Fake Satella. I was just joking and hence the ----> :D at the end. |
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Strident said: but regardless of however many suspicions you may have, you would be forced to accept the reality of the situation and write it off as an electronics issue. It is much easier to believe Okabe's handling of the situation as a result. Subaru on the other hand got sent back in time. He was given several incidents of deja vu, and is self aware. But he needed to die 3 times before he could put two and two together, and that's just inept. You can only be forced to accept something when there is irrefutable proof you can believe, both Okabe and Subaru had to acquire one in their own to understand their situation. Which Subarru just did now in beginning of the 2nd episode hours into the story. So arguing about this like he's still disbelief is beyond pointless and pedantic. |
Iron_MawApr 10, 2016 6:51 PM
| Damn, do I love this show. Tense as f*ck. Got me saying oh shit all the time. I know you are supposed to make viewers undestand everything with watching just once, but hell I love when I have to go back and catch missed details. Can't wait for more. |
| @Strident: Your previous post has the S;G spoiler showing again due to chain effect. I think it was because you quoted it before it was edited by the OP. Thanks. |
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arms98 said: Okabe Rintaro sat there and did the exact same thing in his second loop as he did in the first one, passing it off as a dream despite the fact he EXPLICITLY WENT BACK IN TIME. Okabe must be a super retard by that logic. Why are people comparing subaru to the dmails when there's a much better analogy from the same series :/ |
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arms98 said: arms98 said: Okabe Rintaro sat there and did the exact same thing in his second loop as he did in the first one, passing it off as a dream despite the fact he EXPLICITLY WENT BACK IN TIME. Okabe must be a super retard by that logic. Why are people comparing subaru to the dmails when there's a much better analogy from the same series :/ You quoting yourself is even a bigger mystery! Off Topic: Of all the time leap anime I have seen, I think one of the best was Zetsuen no Tempest that dealt with time paradox exceptionally well. Those who haven't seen it should give it a try. One of the worst I have seen is Boke Dake, which I think many of you have already seen. So I will just stop here before I derail from the actual discussion. The only thing that really irked me are the CG bystanders. I will never be able to warm up to CGs unless they are really fluid and not robotic. |
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Strident said: Jagd84 said: You can only be forced to accept something when there is irrefutable proof you can believe, both Okabe and Subaru had to acquire one in their own to understand their situation. Which Subarru just did now in beginning of episode hours into the story. So arguing about this like he's still disbelief is beyond pointless and pedantic. In the case of Okabe, the irrefutable proof from his perspective is that reality says In contrast, Subaru has plenty of evidence to deduce his situation, but he does not even acknowledge the possibility of returning to zero. The MC of this show is just incredibly slow on the pick up, hence my disbelief. shanimebib said: @Strident: Your previous post has the S;G spoiler showing again due to chain effect. I think it was because you quoted it before it was edited by the OP. Thanks. Adjusted. No he didn't. All he was own memories as evidence which could have been all hallucination or deja vu to begin with give how absurd the whole situation is. Besides if he were truly dumb as you said he still be this in completely unaware of his ability even now wouldn't be making any decisive decisions. He isn't which just leaves forcing an issue that no longer relevant because you need some negative to grasp as straws with. Just stop with the moot arguments already because you just doing for sake which leading you to nowhere. |
Iron_MawApr 10, 2016 7:14 PM
| Was looking forward to the ED after hearing the teaser last episode and I am glad it's really good. OST cant come faster! Good episode, it'll probably be tedious for MC to rebuild his acquaintance with "Satella" but look forward to seeing how he goes around it this time. |
mozgow said: jirachi3x said: I think he is there too. Why would she otherwise left an empty space to her right?Op and Ed are great. Amazing episode of re zero. I was wondering how Satella found out about the loot house in this time line. I have a feeling it was the red hair guy that told her not to go there so she went there  I haven't read the manga, but did you hear what the appa guy said on the second encounter? (of that life) That there was another guy who looked just like him that helped find his lost daughter. That was like his first life there. So there might be multiples of his previous selves running around. And at the end of the first life, he did ask Satella to wait outside. I think that time caught up to them and "adjusted" to him already being in the loot house. That or the Red Haired guy told Satella the opposite information? |
DarionLunis said: I haven't read the manga, but did you hear what the appa guy said on the second encounter? (of that life) That there was another guy who looked just like him that helped find his lost daughter. That was like his first life there. So there might be multiples of his previous selves running around. And at the end of the first life, he did ask Satella to wait outside. I think that time caught up to them and "adjusted" to him already being in the loot house. That or the Red Haired guy told Satella the opposite information? The implication is that a broke kid, like Subaru (that is, they both broke), helped the ringa stand owner's daughter. That is, Satella, who is broke, helped the stand owner's daughter right before Subaru came back. |
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