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| Mmhh >_< poor goblin. 6v1, the fight was pretty intense. |
Zalmox1s said: Rufix said: Sooo... It's ok if generic protagonist #2453 kills 10,000 generic minions #3463, because they are portrayed as brainless? That's so extremely shallow. This anime just showed you how wrong your thinking is. The goblin was brainless minion to these kids at first as well. It depends heavily on what exactly you want to portray as an author. Do you want to show the brutality of the world? Do you want to develop your characters ? Do you want to attract a certain kind of emotion for the characters? You can't really have a group of people gang bang a sapient creature , that did not attack them , in a very brutal way , and then expect people to cheer for them and consider them heroes. Had it had a long term effect on them as character, helping them to grow and develop, I would've been a little happier, but that development seemed to have lasted about half a day, and then they were all happy together again. To tell you the truth, I don't know too much about the human Psyche, but I think the fact that they slaughtered an enemy and were almost killed by him wouldn't have passed so quickly and without lasting effects. You want to portray this kind of realistic and brutal scenes? Awesome, but make sure that the reactions to them are also realistic , otherwise they would be for naught. Don't expect too much of a 20min anime. The insert song, which some think was too long, was a good, maybe more symbolic (as the director can't afford to dwell too much) way to show how they overcame this traumatic experience. Well, that is what I understood. So, maybe the director didn't do a good job as many complain about this... |
| I love the animation with all the different colors and details, it's amazing! I like how realistic how it shows the experience the characters have to go through to become stronger and not become some overpowered MC's. It also shows the goblin's point of view which was nice.I have high hopes for this anime. |
drkurochan said: So, maybe the director didn't do a good job as many complain about this... Nah, it's not the director's fault, this time... |
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| I don't get why people hate on Ranta. He is my favourite character. Oh and I can feel that Minato is gonna die very soon >.> |
hoopla123 said: I don't get why people hate on Ranta. He is my favourite character. Oh and I can feel that Minato is gonna die very soon >.> Because it is funny to watch a Leeroy Jenkins in action, but it stops being funny when that person is in your group. Things would have been much smoother if it weren´t for his unnecesary yelling (which mind you almost killed them). |
Gonzak said: hoopla123 said: I don't get why people hate on Ranta. He is my favourite character. Oh and I can feel that Minato is gonna die very soon >.> Because it is funny to watch a Leeroy Jenkins in action, but it stops being funny when that person is in your group. Things would have been much smoother if it weren´t for his unnecesary yelling (which mind you almost killed them). True but I just found him so refreshing to watch. And that Leroy Jenkins reference, haha nice. |
| In the novels Ranta screams but I think (it's not detailed) he starts moving. In the anime he just kinda gets up and starts beating bushes randomly, it was actually kinda funny. |
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hoopla123 said: Gonzak said: Because it is funny to watch a Leeroy Jenkins in action, but it stops being funny when that person is in your group. Things would have been much smoother if it weren´t for his unnecesary yelling (which mind you almost killed them). True but I just found him so refreshing to watch. And that Leroy Jenkins reference, haha nice. Well he does spice things up, i´ll give you that. |
D-Joe said: Lollo36 said: Nah, it's not the director's fault, this time... You want to say something like Shirobako episode 14 happened? Well but i personally don't mind this scene, it's actually pretty nice. Though i hope they don't do this too much(like every episode much), maybe they can do it again when the show almost end, or simply make the ending like this. I meant that it's the best scene in the episode and it's the complainers' fault for not liking it :P Gonzak said: hoopla123 said: I don't get why people hate on Ranta. He is my favourite character. Oh and I can feel that Minato is gonna die very soon >.> Because it is funny to watch a Leeroy Jenkins in action, but it stops being funny when that person is in your group. Things would have been much smoother if it weren´t for his unnecesary yelling (which mind you almost killed them). Thankfully this episode also builds on his character by making us feel exactly what he's feeling, both during the battle and after it, so his emotional progression feels incredibly natural. Once he finally manages to recover from the battle, he redeems himself by acting like an idiot and cheering everyone up at the end of the ep. ...or we can just keep complaining because he snapped before a battle with his life on the line... what a terrible character indeed |
Lollo36Jan 18, 2016 10:30 AM
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| The fight with the goblin was my favourite part. I love how realistic the characters reacted to actually killing something. However after the fight there was nothing but nonsense... just scenery.. more scenery.. character buying something for a girl (not bad).... more scenery... eventually an unnecessary shot with the group... checking out girls bathing... Apart from the fight I thought it was quite boring, but mostly it felt like: "we have no clue what to show next so lets just show some random town pictures" |
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Lollo36 said: I think the Shirobako episode 14 hypothesis is a valid one, but the director made the best he could with it though and it turned out really well.I meant that it's the best scene in the episode and it's the complainers' fault for not liking it :P |
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Zyukichan said: The fight with the goblin was my favourite part. I love how realistic the characters reacted to actually killing something. However after the fight there was nothing but nonsense... just scenery.. more scenery.. character buying something for a girl (not bad).... more scenery... eventually an unnecessary shot with the group... checking out girls bathing... Apart from the fight I thought it was quite boring, but mostly it felt like: "we have no clue what to show next so lets just show some random town pictures" Don't forget the "Can't sleep-did you go out drinking?-have some tea" moment. Basically, what I felt was watching 20 minutes of filler and two minutes of plot... And three minutes of credits. |
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SentiNel said: It's always funny to see people complain about the most plot relevant parts in the episode. :PDon't forget the "Can't sleep-did you go out drinking?-have some tea" moment. Basically, what I felt was watching 20 minutes of filler and two minutes of plot... And three minutes of credits. Not to mention the first real characterization moment Manato got. |
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Zalmox1s said: Lollo36 said: The show spent a good while trying to express the fact that, if they don't hunt monsters, they'll all starve to death. That's what makes the murder understandable, if not acceptable. I understand that, but have they tried to find if there are other ways of making money besides killing innocent sentient, or even sapient creatures? It looks to me that they just took the word of the creepy emo looking guy , and that's that. This is what irks me. The problem begins when they decide to humanize the goblins and the like. We've seen them relaxing, fishing [ if i remember correctly from ep 1], chatting, collecting water , and then this group of people, which are supposed to be the heroes of this story, comes and tries to murder them in cold blood. Had they've been just the usual rpg enemy, I wouldn't have minded. They were told that being soldiers is basically the only way for them to survive. Being a merchant or getting an other job isn't comparable to the profits you get by being a soldier, also you start with nothing, not a single coin so you would have to depend on the generosity of people. Besides the Goblins aren't as innocent as you may see them. They and monsters in general invade villages, slaughter humans and have brought humanity close to extinction. |
| Very slow-paced episode, but I kind of liked it. It took way too long to kill that one goblin tho |
| I enjoyed that episode. Loving the watercolor scenery pr0nz, the OST is good too. A lot of people seem to hate on the insert song, but I felt that it was very well placed, especially after such a brutal fight. The characters are phased, wondering if they can make it in this world. You have the MC walking around probably wondering how all these people can have a smile on their face, how they cope with battle so well, and if his party will ever be like them. Seeing the dejected looking pair of travellers in the corner makes you think about how they might have lost the rest of their party, and if it was foreshadowing for deaths in the main cast. I still wonder what direction this will take, I haven't read the source material. |
| It's quite interesting how much effort they put into making everyone seem like such completely beginners (which is what they are). Not aiming their swords at more lethal areas, missing shots with magic and arrows, not checking to see if the enemy was actually dead. Those things add up, and I'm really expecting something horrible to happen soon enough. Honestly, they've been getting off a little too easily for their mistakes. All in all, this was a good episode. Really love the artwork. Especially the backgrounds. The blending of art styles makes for quite a pleasant viewing experience. Shame that it's only one cour though. I'm hoping that they're secretly planning on making it split-cour. |
Paulo27 said: SentiNel said: It's always funny to see people complain about the most plot relevant parts in the episode. :PDon't forget the "Can't sleep-did you go out drinking?-have some tea" moment. Basically, what I felt was watching 20 minutes of filler and two minutes of plot... And three minutes of credits. Not to mention the first real characterization moment Manato got. Was confused by his comments too... That part wasn't filler but a character builder for Manato and a realization for him. It wasnt a "oh he just went to drink" moment. It was a "we dont have money... he went to go get something to drink to get more information". Manato is the glue that holds everyone together. really depends on how dark this show got, but Manato dieing would be a game changer for the group. Again, people need to realize this is not a beat-em-up action show. |
hoopla123 said: I don't get why people hate on Ranta. He is my favourite character. Oh and I can feel that Minato is gonna die very soon >.> Yeah, I don't think Ranta is actually as bad as people are making him. It all just goes with his attitude as a Dark Knight. Lol I thought the same for Minato. The dude is just all around too perfect and to top it off he's shown interest in the mage chick. That formula just screams either: A) He's going to become an antagonist B) He's going to die I'd be pleasantly surprised if he doesn't though. |
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| this ep was boring as hell, jesus... They killed that goblin and after that there is nothing... |
Ragix said: hoopla123 said: I don't get why people hate on Ranta. He is my favourite character. Oh and I can feel that Minato is gonna die very soon >.> Yeah, I don't think Ranta is actually as bad as people are making him. It all just goes with his attitude as a Dark Knight. Lol I thought the same for Minato. The dude is just all around too perfect and to top it off he's shown interest in the mage chick. That formula just screams either: A) He's going to become an antagonist B) He's going to die I'd be pleasantly surprised if he doesn't though. Minato is gonna be another Kamina. GG |
| So let me get this straight. Our world people ended up either in game world or some RPG setting world. They are noobs (lvl 1 lets say) Had party of 5? And their enemy was goblin .. which lets say at best is like level 5 Even that target they barely killed.. they pretty much tortured that poor goblin to death as they couldn't cut deep enough... All I gotta say.. go kill slimes.. or shrooms.. :/ I hope they will become more skillful.. boring to watch bunch of noobs getting their ass kicked. |
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| i think everyone that is complaying about this has some mental problems it was pretty wonderful, the art, the pacing, the scene where they killed the poor goblin, the overall atmosphere just great |
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| Another nice and enjoyable episode. It's great to see the emotional struggles a young group has to go through in understanding/learning what it means to actually kills something. Especially if that something can also think like you and has the willingness to also do what it takes to stay alive. Watching that fear and confusion build up into frustration, eventually rendering them numb and crying, was amazing to see. As for the song montage, don't you think it's a bit to early in the show to drop one of those unless something amazing/dramatic happens or it contains important scenes for the viewer to watch? Out of the entire montage, I was able to see that the red haired girl liked the leader, but it seems he's got his eye on the magic girl. You see this by the way she walks away. Also, red haired guy is the one person I don't like. I can see he will be getting on my nerves a lot. Lastly, am I the only one that is reminded of Escaflowne when I hear the music playing or the way that montage went? |
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| This series is missing 1 thing that always grabs one's attention, suspense, or some other form of cliffhanger. I know starting from square 1 brakes away from the OP MCs, but it still falls under "follow the underdog." Also, we're only seeing them grow in experience. I was hoping to see each of their individual training methods. I know it's obvious that they'll eventually grow stronger, but I also would have liked some kind of preview of just how strong so I'd have something to look forward to. Anime only viewers are pretty much watching with little expectation. (myself included) I simply can't see how this can get any better unless it picks up the pace a little more. The 1st & 2nd kills can take all time they like to show them getting used to killing monsters without as much drama/trauma. (whatever you call it) If it goes into every kill they make, then it better change things up with every battle. I'm sure we can all think of a few ways. Anyhow, still haven't decided whether to recommend this series to my friends. I wouldn't even know how to describe it positively for starters. I'd compare it to Log Horizon's low level players with the same conditions as SAO. (No help from high level players and you can die in battle) Not much else to say besides the fact that they have no idea they are in a fantasy world and have no memory of the world they came from. They should at least add more mystery to it. Will they ever find out how they got there or where they came from? So far, they're just rolling with the circumstances without asking many questions. I'm waiting for some kind of plot at this point. |
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| Finally the opening and ending sequences! I don't know what to think yet, about the fight against the goblin and its crude development. To be honest I also feel sorry about him... He was fighting so hard to survive. But it's kill or be killed. |
| Surprisingly this turns out to be the show I am interested in this season (I was going to skip this season all together). From the point of psychological realism, I think that they should panic more, and in general the show feels too fluffy and slice of lifey for the situation they're in. Reports say that LN had more drama. Basically there's oughtta be more hysterics. And it's still very much an MMO, despite not being an MMO, sigh. On the other hand it's visual and audio porn. I like the backgrounds, even though they're static. Thankfully it's balanced by the characters' animations. And I love what the seiyus do. Also the lack of hysteria is good in itself, even if it's illogical. All in all the bad is compensated for, and I remain rather positive. But the show needs to get some plot and rhythm for me to stick with it. It remains to be seen, whether it will be able to. |
deadoptimistJan 18, 2016 4:43 PM
D-Joe said: Find out there is a dumbass in 2ch keep coping MAL's replies, but ONLY bad replies. http://mastiff.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1453095704/475 http://mastiff.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1453095704/533 http://mastiff.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1453095704/819 I bet this Japanese person must hate this show so much so want to mislead 2ch people. If there are any other Japanese in this thread, go tell this biased guy stop because what you doing is stupid. Why do you actually care what a Japanese person is saying to fellow Japanese on a Japanese website? |
| Daaang that was a pretty hardcore episode. Right from brutal realism to fooling around. That's got a lot of power. Ya, i kinda felt bad for the goblin dude. Weirdly enough id made me think how we as humans have a weird ability to empathize with a majority of wildlife. Most people naturally feel really bothered or even disturbed by the idea of killing an animal. This is why most cultures that actually slaughter and butcher the animals they're going to eat, they tend to have a lot more appreciation for the life that was sacrificed so that they could live well. In developed western society, most people just see meat cuts in a shelf, they dunno the experience of actually killing their dinner. This leads to rituals and people seeking to make use of as much of the animal as they can. |
GenesisAriaJan 18, 2016 8:01 PM
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| The last ten minutes were boring, kind of a drag to watch. I'll give it one more episode.. |
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| Yo, who being doin' the music for this show? I like it so far. The act of taking a life certainly is not as simple and emotionless as most other MMO-inspired anime would lead you to believe. I also enjoy that everyone's starting from the very bottom in terms of skill. |
hoopla123 said: I don't get why people hate on Ranta. He is my favourite character. Oh and I can feel that Minato is gonna die very soon >.> For Ranta, he annoyed me but he may be like a tsundere-type character : the more annoying they are, the better you like them when they switch to dere mode ! So for now, I endure... ^^ For Manato, I've rarely seen one character with so many death flags !! I was kinda expecting him to die this episode |
| I can see how this is not everyone's cup of tea. But I actually really enjoy the slow pace. It gives a spin on how being in a MPG would actually be. As in if I had to live, sleep, and eat. I like the characters and that insert song was really beautiful. To me this is a really great series... but for those expecting action, I'm not sure if that is the primary focus of the show. I believe in order for it to succeed the characters really need to develop. |
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| Only thing is, the lowest level starter mobs ('slimes') are usually something you can practically kill by looking at them funny and mashing your basic attack key. They exaggerate the difficulty sorta like SAO did (though in that case the bosses being nasty made sense, cuz in most games you revive when you screw up a boss, then learn how to beat it). There's not many games where it's hardcore right from the start. |
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