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Drake1000 said: Basically he came to accept that his mum was beating him and stopped denying it, and now he wakes up from the Haise bullshit and wants to die. bruh... |
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Drake1000 said: Do you live in this thread? lmao Care to correct me then? because a shitpost doesn't really do much. Well having to spend a lot of time of my day on a pc and having a lot of free time does that to you. And that "bruh..." was meant to show you how impressed i was with your interpretation with the exception that it is stated in the chapter that he wanted to die long before Haise was even a thing. So how do you interpret the "Kaneki coming back" the everyone talks about? What do you think that it will happen? Share with us... |
ArcanixNov 18, 2015 5:51 AM
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| Or it's going to be Haise with his memories or some of the memories back. But you might be right too ^ |
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Minecatewn said: Well, intense and emotional chapter. I feel like we're getting Kaneki back, but not the Kaneki we know. Black Haired - Just an innocent lie White Haired - The emotionless Haise - The sweetdream New Kaneki I feel is going to be the Kaneki that knew all of the tragedy of his life. The repressed, original Kaneki before TG. I wouldn't call white haired Kaneki the emotionless I would call him "the role" since he was Kaneki trying to play the role of a tragic hero |
| This guy explain it well :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZZHWcpLbHM ^_^ |
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Exterria said: My man Kaneki is coming back. But the last oage did his hair became black? Or is it just the blood that is coming from his injuries? It's actually honey. Stop reading the manga with your eyes closed.  |
Agent-PhrankNov 18, 2015 8:48 AM
| Meh, you guys are making this so confusing for yourselves with this take over bullshit and with all the returning bullshit(like Kaneki is on a vacation) when in the end all that it's going to happen is that Haise is going to remember shit and that'll be that. |
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| Why do i think that eto wants/love kaneki ? :D She just wants to bring back old kaneki thats why is there *Thats it*. She sure know that Kanae dont stand chance against Kaneki. And back to Kaneki is back hype. Tbh i dont think that old kaneki is back.I think it will be like that guy in the video said that something like kaneki version of eto will come. Whats that ? It will be guy who hates the world for what happened to him. Something like eto she hates world because she had hard life. As we can see kaneki had hard life too his mother wasnt so good and rest is still unknow. Thats why i think kaneki created something like *Sweet dream* of his life. In that dream his mother was good person who did her best to dont hurt others. Haise was something like that *Sweet Dream* thats why is there *Goodnight haise i had enough of dreaming*. As i said guy in the video *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZZHWcpLbHM* Can explain it way more better than i do. Btw: Dont forget that this is only theory and i know my english sucks. :D |
PandiciakNov 18, 2015 9:22 AM
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| @Pandiciak Of course that old Kaneki isn't back, he'll never be back because he had this experience "as Haise" and it's impossible for him to be the same as before... after all he's 22 now and he can't turn 19 again. |
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Arcanix said: Well i gotta admit you got me. But by old kaneki i mean Nerd kaneki guy who didnt want to kill humans and kaneki who tryed to protect touka and others by joining aogiri tree. White and black kaneki if you want to say it like that :D.@Pandiciak Of course that old Kaneki isn't back, he'll never be back because he had this experience "as Haise" and it's impossible for him to be the same as before... after all he's 22 now and he can't turn 19 again. |
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Arcanix said: @Pandiciak Of course that old Kaneki isn't back, he'll never be back because he had this experience "as Haise" and it's impossible for him to be the same as before... after all he's 22 now and he can't turn 19 again. ^Basically this. It's going to be like Eto's conversation with the twins all over again. http://www.twistedhelscans.com/read/tokyo_ghoul/en/10/98/page/8 |
Arcanix said: Meh, you guys are making this so confusing for yourselves with this take over bullshit and with all the returning bullshit(like Kaneki is on a vacation) when in the end all that it's going to happen is that KANEKI is going to remember shit and fuse with haise and that'll be that. FTFY Please be the end of haise, even a mix of haise and kaneki is better than just haise. |
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ichii_1 said: Please be the end of haise, even a mix of haise and kaneki is better than just haise. The most people should hope for, is him remembering his past and that will obviously change him. That's why i'm confused when people suddenly say "KANEKI IS BACK!"... bruh, he'll never be back because he was always here... duh. |
ArcanixNov 18, 2015 9:45 AM
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Agent-Phrank said: Arcanix said: @Pandiciak Of course that old Kaneki isn't back, he'll never be back because he had this experience "as Haise" and it's impossible for him to be the same as before... after all he's 22 now and he can't turn 19 again. ^Basically this. It's going to be like Eto's conversation with the twins all over again. http://www.twistedhelscans.com/read/tokyo_ghoul/en/10/98/page/8 Wow wow wow... Are you kidding me ? Like i started to reading manga after season 2 anime. But wtf ? What idiot made anime ? In manga there is doctor and Rize and in anime Nothing ?? Wow ... as i can see i need to read full manga... |
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Arcanix said: Meh, you guys are making this so confusing for yourselves with this take over bullshit and with all the returning bullshit(like Kaneki is on a vacation) when in the end all that it's going to happen is that Haise is going to remember shit and that'll be that. This! Wth is up with this Kaneki taking over shit. People treating Kaneki like hollow ichigo or something.... |
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iPinoy said: Now, what's going to happen next?rip Haise |
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Pandiciak said: Agent-Phrank said: ^Basically this. It's going to be like Eto's conversation with the twins all over again. http://www.twistedhelscans.com/read/tokyo_ghoul/en/10/98/page/8 Wow wow wow... Are you kidding me ? Like i started to reading manga after season 2 anime. But wtf ? What idiot made anime ? In manga there is doctor and Rize and in anime Nothing ?? Wow ... as i can see i need to read full manga... Dude season 2 was mostly anime original. Not talking specifically about you but this is why some of the reader have trouble with :re. They jump right into the manga right after s2 without even reading the prequel and then they start complaining about random characters appearing in every chapter or other silly things. Off topic post but now thanks to a certain reviewer most of the casual readers are going to think Kaneki was raped by Yamori back in aogiri arc. smh |
Z4KNov 18, 2015 10:31 AM
| [quote=Z4k] Pandiciak said: Off topic post but now thanks to a certain reviewer most of the casual readers are going to think Kaneki was raped by Yamori back in aogiri arc. smh I wouldn't be surprised if that happened but I was surprised at the youtube reviewer's reaction, there are TONS of things 1000000000X worse than getting raped that I'm sure yamori did to kaneki. Getting raped is nothing compared to what I'm sure kaneki went through. |
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Z4k said: Off topic post but now thanks to a certain reviewer most of the casual readers are going to think Kaneki was raped by Yamori back in aogiri arc. smh That was some next level shit. I wanted to make a thread about Chibi Reviews. He's been getting more and more impulsive and his theories are getting more and more ridiculous. Lmao, this theory is GOAT, tumblr will be pround. |
Z4k said: Off topic post but now thanks to a certain reviewer most of the casual readers are going to think Kaneki was raped by Yamori back in aogiri arc. smh The real question is if Arima raped Haise when he was domesticating him :) |
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| This has been a fantastic chapter that made us realize how much foreshadowing we missed and how Ishida Sui is a masterful tragedy writer. HalAnime said: Black Kaneki was a lie. White Kaneki was a role. Haise Sasaki was a dream. Who really is Ken Kaneki? I think this is the best summary of what has occurred. From the moment his mother began abusing him (probably after his father died and she began overworking, causing her to lash out all her range on him), he began wearing masks. After she finally died (suicide maybe?), he repressed all his memories and selected the ones where she was kind, forming a whole new reality around them, completely denying what happened as a coping mechanism. His aunt abused him, too, and on top of that, he misdirected some of his previous misery on her. He longed for a mother figure. Has anyone noticed that Rize looks kinda similar to his mother...? His memories that shaped resentment at his core have been buried deep within as he began seeing and experiencing more and more tragic and traumatic events, including the torture that made one his masks shatter. The violence committed as Shironeki appeared to not have a specific cause other than Jason's torture. However, Kaneki hasn't been pure for a long time. If he couldn't cope with current events, how could he cope with his past? ... Haise was indeed what Kaneki would be if he didn't experience constant abuse and lack of love. But there was no way in the world he could repress all of his pain anymore. The only way for him to heal was to accept himself. And in the moment all of his painful experiences have been grouped together, he finally broke. He remembered. And became his true self, the one that remembered his whole life and now has two choices; to die with dignity ('in style') as he is passively suicidal, or somehow achieve peace now that he's no longer lying to himself and the world. He said good night to his deluded self. Not specifically just Haise, Shironeki or Kuroneki; he said goodbye to all the masks he always put on in the moment he touched his chin (which is a similar gesture a person would use to literally put a mask on). All of his memories have collided and fused, and memories are what create you, other than your genetic make up. Next week we'll finally meet the real Kaneki Ken. |
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Ish-shooo said: There's a true identity of Kaneki somewhere out there. We just need another 100 chapters to find out. In the end his mother died due to Kaneki poisoning her, or some ugly shit like that. About dreaming...  |
| I'm still surprised with this turn of events and the additional information about Kaneki's mom (who would see that happening? not me), but I still this will be the trigger to a even more bigger event. I kinda started to lose hope for Kaneki's return, but with this chapter, I'm glad he's back. I mean, I have mixed feelings because it's uncertain what will happen to him (more tragedy?), I almost wished for him to stay where he has been all this time, but I don't know anymore. Let's see what happens. |
kktheman1 said: muneyoshi said: I'm still surprised with this turn of events and the additional information about Kaneki's mom (who would see that happening? not me), but I still this will be the trigger to a even more bigger event. I kinda started to lose hope for Kaneki's return, but with this chapter, I'm glad he's back. I mean, I have mixed feelings because it's uncertain what will happen to him (more tragedy?), I almost wished for him to stay where he has been all this time, but I don't know anymore. Let's see what happens. Kaneki isn't back . It's simply Haise getting the memories back and most likely will pick up some of the personal characteristics of the real Kaneki. In my opinion him possibly being a rude D.bag The question is, Haise will continue to self-titling Sasaki Haise, the name given by the person who wants to kill (or person by whom wanted to die), or will revert to using the name Kaneki Ken? And if he starts to call yourself Kaneki Ken, he still would be Sasaki Haise? Huh? Huh? Holds this now. :) |
kktheman1 said: haunter_ex said: The question is, Haise will continue to self-titling Sasaki Haise, the name given by the person who wants to kill (or person by whom wanted to die), or will revert to using the name Kaneki Ken? And if he starts to call yourself Kaneki Ken, he still would be Sasaki Haise? Huh? Huh? Holds this now. :) Inb4 fans start saying we want Sasaki back. In fact, I do not think anything if is Kaneki or perhaps Haise or whoever is there, I was joking. :) In my opinion (nothing I can say the next chapter, IS is fucking unpredictable), I can not see much of Haise going forward because there are many things "involving Ken" still as the Hinami who is trapped in cochlea, amon that is cannibalizing, Hide who is out there planting chaos and discord... |
| Wow now kaneki whole childhood is really depressing |
| Ishida continues to be the best. I'm really happy MS picked this up, because just the spoilers was dying. Tbh, I'm still dying. This chapter is emotionally compromising. Babuneki! Agh. I thought the "like mom" thing was just because neglect, but I was wrong. It's not just the date anymore. I really, really, really love the final page. Bruh. 「夢はもういい。」 Bruh. Oh, but yeah, I don't really get why you would be assuming Eto gave Kanae a powerup? Because it seems to just be Eto being Eto, which means manipulation (and pain). it's really a shounen; Arcanix's got a point here. ...On that note, GJ LadyNightmare. |
| Holy fuck this is so depressing Ishida please... Kaneki was already messed up even before he became Shironeki... Wow. Fuck the Kaneki x Eto/Touka ships. Kaneki x Suffering is still the true OTP. |
MightyM16 said: lukeycow said: That was confusing with his mum, especially considering it was shown completely differently in part 1. Looks like Kaneki is back (or not really). Like others have said, I reckon he'll be a new kind of Kaneki because we find out that everything we've seen of his character so far has been a lie. Will be pretty cool to see what he's really like. Selective memory is a thing It just means Kaneki is an unreliable narrator Kaneki is unreliable period. Go back and read Tokyo Ghoul and notice how many times he puts his hand near his chin. |
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kktheman1 said: Would actually like to see the sick interest she has in Kaneki. Maybe it's like Aku no Hana type thing where she is trying to force the "real Kaneki" out. Or maybe Eto in the story = Ishida in real life Kaneki/ Haise likes to read her books = We like to read his manga Eto toying with characters = Ishida trolling us Eto likes to see people suffering = Ishida likes to make us suffer Eto is sadistic = Ishida is sadistic too L̶m̶a̶o̶ ̶d̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶s̶e̶r̶i̶o̶u̶s̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶j̶o̶k̶e̶.̶ |
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