| this thread will be change to theism VS atheism. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
j0x said: still different with each other tho. Related but still differentKaradzic said: Atheism and Irreligion are different they are related, irreligion simply includes all kinds of none religious labels like atheism, agnosticism, spiritual but not religious, etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion |
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| I thought you couldn't be offended because you didn't believe in anything? |
ToaofJustice said: A red herring detectedKaradzic said: It still hasnt no evidence that God isnt real though. And nope, Science hasnt disprove the existence of God. Just because u cannot see the dood doesnt mean he isnt real Does that mean the flying spaghetti monster could be real too? Does that mean a magic monkey-like creature who is purple and has a refrigerator for a hand and a palm tree tail that created the universe could be real also? Yay! yay |
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Karadzic said: ToaofJustice said: A red herring detectedDoes that mean the flying spaghetti monster could be real too? Does that mean a magic monkey-like creature who is purple and has a refrigerator for a hand and a palm tree tail that created the universe could be real also? Yay! yay And God isn't? |
Unyilkdr said: as I said, Mikasa is successful this timethis thread will be change to theism VS atheism. |
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Mikasa said: Could it be that the homosexual scene controversy from Shinsekai Yori was caused bu religious beliefs against homosexuality? LordAura said: Don't have any religious beliefs so can't really be offended. If anything the only thing that could possibly offend me is the way the United States is portrayed in anime, but I find that completely hilarious. What if they offend your religion of atheism? Not even sure I'd call myself an atheist. That'd imply that I don't believe gods exist. I don't have any beliefs at all. I simply don't care. I'm not going jump in bed with religion or science because neither can prove their arguments. So to answer your question you can't offend someone who doesn't care about it at all. (at least until there's more information) |
| i prefer people that beleive in aliens are actually our god rather than not beleive in god at all. because life from no life is impossible. |
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
ToaofJustice said: well, lets be seriousKaradzic said: A red herring detected yay And God isn't? FSM is obviously a mock religion |
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Karadzic said: ToaofJustice said: well, lets be seriousAnd God isn't? FSM is obviously a mock religion Is it? Have you met any members? Sure you may know troll members, but you haven't met a devout one, have you? So how can you prove they don't exist? |
| No I love it if anime makes fun of religions. |
j0x said: mister Kokko said that Atheism is not believing/following on any religion. Atheism in definition is Not following/believing God because Theism came from "Theos" means God and added an "A" as a contradiction. Irreligion is a broad term that mister Kokko meantKaradzic said: still different with each other tho. Related but still different what makes them different? lol wikipedia already stated it, irreligion is a broad categorization (generalization) of none religious, its like irreligion are labeled as the species of dogs but there are still different races of dogs be it atheism, agnosticism, etc |
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CharlRosso said: Rance-sama said: I don't believe in MAL folks, they are strangers.I thought you couldn't be offended because you didn't believe in anything? I'm an atheist, but I just wanted to prove a point. Having a different belief (or disbelief) doesn't suddenly make you fucking Stephen Hawking's. We get it, you believe in science. That's great. Now sit the fuck down and respect other people's gods. |
Unyilkdr said: i prefer people that beleive in aliens are actually our god rather than not beleive in god at all. because life from no life is impossible. Where did the aliens come from? |
Karadzic said: well, lets be serious FSM is obviously a mock religion It's a mock religion, but it's still built around an idea, one of the biggest being "Believe whatever you want and leave people the fuck alone" |
| Mahouka obviously has some very questionable viewpoints. Either the author is screwed up in the head, or he's just trying to make a quick buck pandering to the 'It's not my fault I'm a miserable failure, it's world's fault!' crowd. Not to mention all the xenophobia and whatnot. That being said, I haven't dropped it yet. And if I were to drop it eventually, it would more than likely be a result of the show being fucking boring. |
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j0x said: noep, im not playing with words for I gave the etymology of the said word. So basically, Atheism is a beleif that God doesnt exist. They can be irreligious but Atheism acts like a religion now though. And one point in the history revealed that Atheism can be a religion as USSR gave an example to that. We can say that Atheism celebrates human power and Humanist ideasKaradzic said: mister Kokko said that Atheism is not believing/following on any religion. Atheism in definition is Not following/believing God because Theism came from "Theos" means God and added an "A" as a contradiction. Irreligion is a broad term that mister Kokko meant you are playing with words there, semantics, atheism is still considered irreligion Here is the said early 20th century atheist congregation that works as religion |
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Rance-sama said: We get it, you believe in science. You can't believe in something that's true. :3 |
shintai88 said: Mikasa said: Could it be that the homosexual scene controversy from Shinsekai Yori was caused bu religious beliefs against homosexuality? What if they offend your religion of atheism? People consider that a religion? But not atheist so aren't bother either. Technically it is. TheBasedNico said: Mikasa said: Could it be that the homosexual scene controversy from Shinsekai Yori was caused bu religious beliefs against homosexuality? Maybe. I thought of this myself, but I'm not sure if it's the exact placing. Ask the director that question if you want the answer. Perhaps many christians saw it unfitting to watch bisexual couples. |
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Karadzic said: noep, im not playing with words for I gave the etymology of the said word. So basically, Atheism is a beleif that God doesnt exist. They can be irreligious but Atheism acts like a religion now though. And one point in the history revealed that Atheism can be a religion as USSR gave an example to that. We can say that Atheism celebrates human power and Humanist ideas Here is the said early 20th century atheist congregation that works as religion Are you seriously comparing Eastern marxist ideals that have died out with Western liberal ones? |
| I wouldn't. That's quite a stupid reason to drop anime imo. |
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Kokko said: what?Karadzic said: noep, im not playing with words for I gave the etymology of the said word. So basically, Atheism is a beleif that God doesnt exist. They can be irreligious but Atheism acts like a religion now though. And one point in the history revealed that Atheism can be a religion as USSR gave an example to that. We can say that Atheism celebrates human power and Humanist ideas Here is the said early 20th century atheist congregation that works as religion Are you seriously comparing Eastern marxist ideals that have died out with Western liberal ones? |
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j0x said: USSR still tried to make Atheism as an organized religionKaradzic said: noep, im not playing with words for I gave the etymology of the said word. So basically, Atheism is a beleif that God doesnt exist. They can be irreligious but Atheism acts like a religion now though. And one point in the history revealed that Atheism can be a religion as USSR gave an example to that. We can say that Atheism celebrates human power and Humanist ideas Here is the said early 20th century atheist congregation that works as religion its cool to know the roots of or the history of a word (etymology) but words change meaning every time and that God Building article is just the minority like it was a fad, there is no serious organize irreligion through out history so far And words rarely change its meaning. I link a dictionary meaning for you then http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism |
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| No, wouldn't care. I mean what's worse than Assassins Creed's Quotes about religion? |
Kuruwin said: no one knows, we not even know yet aliens exist or notUnyilkdr said: Where did the aliens come from?i prefer people that beleive in aliens are actually our god rather than not beleive in god at all. because life from no life is impossible. RNA are too complex to made by "accident", and how theory behind first organism and how organism come from non organism things are laughable in front of chemistry actually. most of them are made by biologist physhic that not seeing element it self can determind it theory possible or not. |
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j0x said: so........ you just contradicted a dictionary?Karadzic said: USSR still tried to make Atheism as an organized religion they tried but they did not succeed and it died easily, it was a fad Karadzic said: And words rarely change its meaning. I link a dictionary meaning for you then http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism wrong see this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change I said words rarely change its meaning, not "it will never change its meaning". Atheism's case isnt still reached to that level of meaning change. I looked in the examples and almost all are from 10-14th centuries where old english still exist |
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Karadzic said: j0x said: so........ you just contradicted a dictionary?they tried but they did not succeed and it died easily, it was a fad wrong see this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change I said words rarely change its meaning. I looked in the examples and almost all are from 10-14th centuries where old english still exist I wouldn't trust an online dictionary in my life. |
TheBasedNico said: Rance-sama said: Atheism isn't a logically secured belief, you moron. Get off your high horse and realize that there's numerous things that can't be explained with science, and there's no such thing as a belief with no flaws in it. can't tell if srs lol, this is basically what "criticism" of science boils down to. the concept of science is on no "high horse". its a very humble formula that recognizes the fact that we know very little, but it takes what we know and examines it in the most logical and secure way possible. it doesnt second guess or make things up, if we dont understand we say we dont understand, we dont make things up to try and explain what we dont know. and science is a METHOD to understand the world. its not really a belief. if you can actually come up with logical flaws say so. because saying "there are a lot of things science cant explain" is an extremely ridiculous counterstatement. |
| I am an atheist and it's withoud a doubt a belief. It boils down to believing supernatural beings, gods and that kind of bs does't exist, and yet you can't really prove they don't exist (that, though, is because they are so conveniently defined), so it surely can be called a belief. |
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Unyilkdr said: i prefer people that beleive in aliens are actually our god rather than not beleive in god at all. because life from no life is impossible. That makes no sense. How do you suppose aliens came to life? They had to come from no life. Prebiotic experiments are a thing. Amino acids can easily emerge under the right conditions (aka the ones the Earth had when it was young). |
ToaofJustice said: I will give you Oxford thenI wouldn't trust an online dictionary in my life. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/atheism |
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Karadzic said: Unyilkdr said: as I said, Mikasa is successful this timethis thread will be change to theism VS atheism. the first thread Mikasa made that I actually think is good |
| I am not religious but number 2 is often pretty tasteless. I find number 1 very interesting though. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Imaishi said: I am an atheist and it's withoud a doubt a belief. It boils down to believing supernatural beings, gods and that kind of bs does't exist, and yet you can't really prove they don't exist (that, though, is because they are so conveniently defined), so it surely can be called a belief. If atheism is a religion then bald is a hair colour. |
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