Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 8 Discussion

Savethebestforu said:


Let's continue the argument on who the biggest asshole is. I'm so ready, Angry.

ANGRY2011 said:


I'M THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE. NOW EVERYONE SHUTUP. D:<

Eh, that's the best I can do, I'm not feeling my namesake today.

HidetoshiNakata said:
Amazing, then the users are required to agree with arguments based on Fanwank and FanFiction.
We had 20 episodes, and no argument put forward by you guys, it was shown in the anime.
You want the users agree with their abstract opinions based on personal taste and fantasies.
The users do not have the right to protest and disagree, of his arguments, because they are considered stupid or worthless.
I'm sorry, more all the arguments through abstract facts, no more than Fanwank and FanFiction.
That's excuse, desperate User, just because none of his arguments presented so far, has been shown in the anime.
People have the right to complain, especially users who have theories and arguments that were never proven.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Pretty sure it started after episode 12. Till episode 11, even i felt bad for his character. So how about you stop basing your judgement on what you recently saw on the forums.

Darklight0303 said:
Slaine shot him first. Take off the fanboy goggles.

vieri32 said:
You say that guy Inaho not have emotions, tell me the emotion that Slaine has? Slaine catch every episode and that never changes his face dead, do not think about other people is not the princess, the famous unhealthy obsession.
Slaine from the first episode did not move a Muscolo of your face, always with the same expression.
Unfortunate Inaho can not have more emotions in this regard Slaine equals, not actually worse because he has that face dead.
Slaine joke man, qualque normal person knows that a person with unhealthy obsession, forgets himself.
Face the fanboys Sline are increasingly insurportaveis to endure.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I too am tired of seeing #slainedidnothingwrong type posts with shitty and delusional reasoning and had to react to it.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I don't like whatever shit Slaine has been doing and i don't feel any sympathy for him since he dug the grave for himself, can you change my mind or prove me wrong? No you can't.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
For all your complains, did you completely miss that most of the time we pointed out to this delusional interpretations for example "Slaine never wanted Lemrina to be involved" like someone said earlier even though she was involved from when she agrred to help Saazbaum or when some other try to blame other characters to justify their favorite Slaine-sama.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
There is nothing wrong with writing fan fictions just don't try to pass those as facts or excuses.....that's where the problems lies.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I am sorry but where were you when people like ihateuimeanit or officialmiko started inaho-bashing threads and insulting inaho-fans because they don't like slaine. We got name-called a lot since we don't like Slaine or like Inaho. Please playing the "hero" role based on your limited view isn't going to work. You can keep up with your crusade.....it was biased in the first place.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Also we made our own analysis about Slaine being the guilty one while you made your analysis about how it's also partially Inaho's fault. The most we can agree is that the scene could have been played out better but don't go declaring your analysis is the proper one here.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I don't hate Slaine because he is a villain but i hate him because of how he did things. How many times must i say this? Moral aspect isn't going to work as an argument here. I didn't hate Saazbaum but i don't agree with his methods.

ANGRY2011 said:
To pretty much everyone now:

This whole last page is nothing but shit, because no one will fucking let it go. Pro tip: It doesn't matter if the other guy is an asshole, you're probably an asshole too. Honestly. This board is a caustic mess.

deadoptimist said:
Also I wonder why can't we ever pick up the topic of the zero-g sex properly.

HidetoshiNakata said:
An interesting thing came

Well not sure if this is real but Slaine is turned against Asseylum and she is rescued by a loyalist knight called Cain voiced by Haruto's VA lol...
昏睡状態からの覚醒後、レムリナから現状を聞いた彼女は
スレインの行動をいさめようとするが、軟禁されてしまう。
そんな彼女に再び運命の分岐点が訪れる。

火星騎士の一人。スレインの率いる強硬派に対し、皇帝派に属する。
He's against Slaine's faction and is. loyal to the emperor.

昏睡状態からの覚醒後、レムリナから現状を聞いた彼女は
After waking out from a coma (but...), she herd the current situation from Lemrina
スレインの行動をいさめようとするが、軟禁されてしまう。
She tries to dissuade Slaine from his current behavior, but she is placed in house arrest instead.
そんな彼女に再び運命の分岐点が訪れる。

Again not sure if real or fake.

HidetoshiNakata said:
An interesting thing came

Well not sure if this is real but Slaine is turned against Asseylum and she is rescued by a loyalist knight called Cain voiced by Haruto's VA lol...
昏睡状態からの覚醒後、レムリナから現状を聞いた彼女は
スレインの行動をいさめようとするが、軟禁されてしまう。
そんな彼女に再び運命の分岐点が訪れる。

火星騎士の一人。スレインの率いる強硬派に対し、皇帝派に属する。
He's against Slaine's faction and is. loyal to the emperor.

昏睡状態からの覚醒後、レムリナから現状を聞いた彼女は
After waking out from a coma (but...), she herd the current situation from Lemrina
スレインの行動をいさめようとするが、軟禁されてしまう。
She tries to dissuade Slaine from his current behavior, but she is placed in house arrest instead.
そんな彼女に再び運命の分岐点が訪れる。

Again not sure if real or fake.

kymano said:

Wait how did Asseylum know what Slaine had done?I thought she remembered what happened on Earth not in Space?

OfficialMikoSM said:
Thread Scenario:

Three Factions:

Slaine sucks Faction

Independent

All about complex character Faction

All are battling it out with their wits but looks like some people are turning to fanfiction for support (#ifeelsosorryforwhoeverjustgotshutdownrightnowlolol)

I honestly don't get the hate anymore, slaine is still his ever so complex character and bitch mode sometimes while inaho is slowly getting away from his cardboard self but still within the vicinity. Jeez people, the anime is ending and you guys haven't resolved your hatred for characters yet? I for once is starting to like Inaho a bit and slowly even out to Slaine .-.

Oh noez, is this what people call Development?

HidetoshiNakata said:
ANGRY2011, Savethebestforu and deadoptimist.
Users are pitiful.

deadoptimist said:

Erm, no.
I guess, it started around the shooting episode.

deadoptimist said:

That’s not a trend – most people agree that Slaine is a complex character, who made mistakes. People simply search for motivations. Unlike people not giving any ground in arguing that Inaho’s eye is completely realistic in the A.Z setting or saying that it’s completely ok, that no named characters die in a supposedly devastating war.

deadoptimist said:

I don’t plan to, but I don’t mind either, I just don’t think that it is necessary to write it each time Slaine is mentioned, force your hate on other people by insulting them or post about it all the time no matter the current topic discussed.

deadoptimist said:

Btw, if she had already been involved means that it was not Slaine’s choice to drag her into the mess. And Slaine’s opinion on the matter hasn’t been stated openly, so that he doesn’t want anything to do with her is a valid option.

deadoptimist said:

Nah, the problem is that you think you can define where the line between speculation and the fact lies based on your interpretation, and it contradicts other people’s views.

deadoptimist said:

Biased in whose favor? In favor of not calling people “fags”? Surely.

deadoptimist said:

Maybe those people once were here, but they are not active anymore and your bashing continues. Kymano, for example, doesn’t strike me as a Slaine’s fan, but he got shot down for not spitting on Slaine actively. Basically it has come to aggressively dismiss any opinions that are not focused on hate towards Slaine, be it criticism against Inaho (that doesn’t automatically mean liking Slaine) or simply any other commentary.

deadoptimist said:

“We”, “our”. Damn, you guys remind of a sect sometimes.

No matter how many times it has been brought up, the fight is a tie: there are many very good arguments brought up by both sides.

deadoptimist said:

Er, isn’t it one and the same more or less?
Judging a character is looking at his entertainment value, realism, progression, development, design, interactions etc. You don’t do it, you offer moral evaluations, i.e. judge him as a person. “Villain” means that he does bad things, you say that he makes things in a wrong way.

deadoptimist said:

I like Slaine cause he offers a story with big developments, plenty of drama and together with him we see an alien society, slightly reminiscent of classical literature. There is intrigue and complex relationships. I find the terrans’ plotline very pale in comparision. And you argue with me by saying that Slaine is bad.

Savethebestforu said:
At least I was attempting to respond to his nonsense before, but now all he's doing is posting comments from the animesuki forums onto here and just creating space.

Savethebestforu said:
That's the reason I go after you so much, because you talk shit to many people. He was insulting multiple users in those threads, so I decided to see how he liked it. Turns out I created a monster, but at least it was better than a copy+paste machine.

ANGRY2011 said:


I'M THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE. NOW EVERYONE SHUTUP.

Eh, that's the best I can do, I'm not feeling my namesake today.

HidetoshiNakata said:
upcoming episodes titles
22話「邂逅と訣別-Out of the Past-」
23話「祈りの空-The Unvanquished-」
最終話「いつか見た流星-Inherit the Stars-」


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HidetoshiNakata said:
An interesting thing came

Well not sure if this is real but Slaine is turned against Asseylum and she is rescued by a loyalist knight called Cain voiced by Haruto's VA lol...
昏睡状態からの覚醒後、レムリナから現状を聞いた彼女は
スレインの行動をいさめようとするが、軟禁されてしまう。
そんな彼女に再び運命の分岐点が訪れる。

火星騎士の一人。スレインの率いる強硬派に対し、皇帝派に属する。
He's against Slaine's faction and is. loyal to the emperor.

昏睡状態からの覚醒後、レムリナから現状を聞いた彼女は
After waking out from a coma (but...), she herd the current situation from Lemrina
スレインの行動をいさめようとするが、軟禁されてしまう。
She tries to dissuade Slaine from his current behavior, but she is placed in house arrest instead.
そんな彼女に再び運命の分岐点が訪れる。

Again not sure if real or fake.

AlexGK said:


This looks like a bit too much of a development for the 4 episodes we have left.
And given the episodes names... another season incoming maybe?

AlexGK said:

And given the episodes names... another season incoming maybe?

Knight-Artorias said:


Oh that would be lovely more threads to read.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
]Erm yes............randomly picking posts won't help you here, neither will it prove your point. Besides you can't prove Darklight wrong either since he probably said that to some idiot with the same #inahoshotslainefirst crap.........we had an influx of those types after episode 12 along with comments like "I hate Inaho for no reason, so glad he died" which were kind of bs and painful to look at.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
What most people are you referring to again?

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Who made you a representative of the majority again? I am tired of asking these questions you know.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Complex character? Sorry i only see a somewhat unlucky character who i used to feel bad for turn into a obsessive jealous yandere with borrowed motivations and ideals that don't make much sense considering he only had one goal from episode 1-10 and now turned into a complete nutcase. Oh and that was the result of his own choices.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Nah, the problem is that you think you can define where the line between speculation and the fact lies based on your interpretation, and it contradicts other people’s views.
No not really..........you can make all the excuses you want but those baseless interpretations which go against the story just to justify Slaine-sama will always be fan fictions. We can go about this point in circles all day long.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
That's your issue? Should i call all of you Mindless Slaine Fanatics rather than differentiating between fans and fags/apologists? Does that sound better to you? Does that make you happy?

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
You people seem to have a problem with us liking Inaho for what he is and come up with gary-stu, wish fulfillment or other buzzwords.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Sigh no they are not. You are arguing again and again that i dislike Slaine because he is a villain while i am saying i dislike/hate him for all this realism, progression, development, design or whatever else you are talking about. Is there any rule that i can't hate a character for those........or do we all have to like him because you do? How about you open your eyes and stop forcing your opinions. For all the complains you are making, you are doing exactly the same.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
you aren't a saint here.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Once again, do i have to like Slaine because YOU find him interesting? I don't find him or his cheap drama interesting. Personally Slaine's awful drama has been a waste of time for me...........they could have utilized that time by giving us explanations on Aldnoah, show a few flashbacks of Inaho and give him more closure and characterization or some flashbacks about Saazbaum. But hey they just had to please the fujioshi demographic.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Inaho's strategy and battles has made the show interesting for me along with the interaction of the characters with him. I can say that i find the earth side more fun and Vers side retarded in most cases...........can you say i am wrong or force your taste onto me? No you really can't.

Knight-Artorias said:


Oh that would be lovely more threads to read.

deadoptimist said:
Most of the active users among those who are not a part of anti-Slaine party – Savethebestforu, ANGRY2011 (please, correct me, ANGRY, if I am wrong), Viktor_Otaku, kymano, AlexGK, Makaze_no_Moujuu…

ANGRY2011 said:
I guess if I declared a party other than Independent, I'd choose the "I'm disappointed because I feel this was wasted potential" party.

deadoptimist said:

Oh my... Do you seriously still read this? -_-' Sorry.

I would like more of A.Z for the sake of discussions (well, "disacussions"), but I am not sure I'll be actually able to watch it. The latest episodes were very hard to sit through.

deadoptimist said:
Wouldn't it be logical to.....

AlexGK said:



This looks like a bit too much of a development for the 4 episodes we have left.
And given the episodes names... another season incoming maybe?

deadoptimist said:


Oh, I am a sympathizer then. While I find Vers' side more interesting than the terrans', I can't help by lament how much potential has been wasted.

deadoptimist said:
Btw, using the fact that this thread is still active, I'd like to talk a bit about Lemrina. I have a lot of questions about the way her situation is shown.

deadoptimist said:
First of all it's strange or maybe impressive that Saazbaum managed to hide a princess. Does nobody know about the king's lover? Also how can she live hidden on a space base?

deadoptimist said:
In any case it's strange that she doesn't have her own aide/friends. If she poses as a simple martian she could make friends openly, if she was hidden (how exactly is it possible in an enclosed space with limited personnel?), she still should've had her own maid (Saazbaum couldn't help her with more personal matters, it would've been impolite and he couldn't have had enough time). Why she rlies on Eddelrittuo is beyond me, as well as why she doesn't have any contacts on the base.

deadoptimist said:
Then there is a question about her injury. I like to think that her legs are simlpy poorly developped due to her upbringing in a low g environment without proper care. (She can jump using at least one leg in zero-g). A space bound pretty princess - now that is sexy.

deadoptimist said:
That brings me to the quastion why she uses the wheelchair.
We see her sitting on a chair in the same room with proper gravitation. But she is a damned aldnoah gifted princess and she lives on the moon, so why doesn't she has a comfy royal suite with zero-g to happily hop around?
And she has the power of aldnoah, so why use the silly wheelchair, that seems to have motor (because of the sound it makes), not an aldnoah powered antigrav one or an exoskeleton? Now we don't kow, maybe aldnoah cores need a bulky heat discharger tech, but the core itself seems portable. Wouldn't it be logical to find a suitable core and make her a fansy supporting armor?

ANGRY2011 said:


Yea. Vers has a lot of wasted potential in my opinion, but at least it feels like things are happening and stuff is developing. The Terran side has seemed pretty static.



I'm always down to discuss muh cripple princess. Of course, all this discussion will be premised on the idea that the A.Z people thought about any of this, and chose to do it this way with a reason for it, as opposed to just being straight lazy.



Best I can figure about this is that it is definitely impressive for Saaz. I'd assume the Emperor, not wanting his bastard child and lover to be known, probably would have kept her assigned to a shortlist of personnel - probably just a few caretakers in this case, maybe confined to a small section, like a restricted wing. It is possible he managed to keep this secret from his father, and it definitely seems like he kept it secret from Asseylum and most of the counts. If this was the case, it might have been possible for Saaz to make a move after his death in the war, because the caretakers would be relatively unknown at that point, maybe only senior administrative or military staff of the moon base itself.



Going off of my theory above, I'd say that she was likely very confined. The moon base may have people in it, but they are likely all military personnel with only a few supporting personnel. If Lemrina's area was small and out of the way compared to the main quarters of the lower-ranking personnel, as well as restricted, they wouldn't have much reason to come across her, and she presumably is easier to confine thanks to her ailment. As for the high ranking people, it is unclear how high up this secret could go, but it may be known to only the commander of the moon base itself and his hand-picked confidants.

Honestly, when it comes to the question of why these caretakers or personal maid or whoever she had isn't around anymore, I'd have to say I believe it is simple laziness on the part of the staff. Lemrina, even if sequestered, had to have someone taking care of her unless she was left for literal dead, and even then she'd still need to be guarded to prevent her from becoming a public issue. But we already have a maid character in Edelertiasdtasdtlaj, and having her "fill in" makes Lemrina while in disguise look legitimate, and also provides a way to keep Edeleaealkjgljsg close to Asseylum for the inevitable waking up.

From an in-universe perpective, when they decided to start allowing Lemrina out around the base more and using her as Asseylum, they might have "retired" her previous staff, perhaps to keep the secret more closely guarded. Lemrina's staff may not have necessarily been nice to her either, perhaps just being forced to perform under threat. We'll likely never know, but if they existed, Lemrina doesn't seem saddened by their loss.



We don't really know anything about her injury besides that it hasn't rendered her legs completely non-functional, just supposedly too weak to support her (hence the wheelchair). I doubt it will ever be explained, but that isn't a big deal, since it could happen.



I think this likely has to do with how little her father cared for her. Lemrina is decidedly NOT happy with the royal family. I doubt the previous emperor gave her any kind of real amenities. Her personal quarters could have been made at lower gravity, maybe, but why would the Emperor necessarily bother? It is the same with the wheelchair really. Sure, she could have something awesome, but why would he bother? These are the only real reasons I can give. Just because she has royal blood doesn't mean her father would necessarily provide for her like a princess. Keep his dirty secret hidden and livable (and by normal standards at least moderately comfy) conditions, but don't bother wasting time, resources, or attention on creating specialized things which could draw attention to her existence.

As for why she wouldn't get these things after Saaz takes over, who knows. Could be hard to actually do something like that maybe. Aldnoah cores, how do they work? Renovations to moon bases, probably not as simple as redoing a room. And then in the current time, not the priority in a war and with Lemrina likely having access to more than she did during her sequestration, she's probably already happier with her living conditions than before.

That's all my speculation on the matter, if I had to try to justify it.

HidetoshiNakata said:
ta you still talking after the events occurred in episode 9.
you do not know when...

ANGRY2011 said:
Yea. Vers has a lot of wasted potential in my opinion, but at least it feels like things are happening and stuff is developing. The Terran side has seemed pretty static.

ANGRY2011 said:
I'm always down to discuss muh cripple princess. Of course, all this discussion will be premised on the idea that the A.Z people thought about any of this, and chose to do it this way with a reason for it, as opposed to just being straight lazy.

ANGRY2011 said:
Best I can figure about this is that it is definitely impressive for Saaz. I'd assume the Emperor, not wanting his bastard child and lover to be known, probably would have kept her assigned to a shortlist of personnel - probably just a few caretakers in this case, maybe confined to a small section, like a restricted wing. It is possible he managed to keep this secret from his father, and it definitely seems like he kept it secret from Asseylum and most of the counts. If this was the case, it might have been possible for Saaz to make a move after his death in the war, because the caretakers would be relatively unknown at that point, maybe only senior administrative or military staff of the moon base itself.

ANGRY2011 said:
Honestly, when it comes to the question of why these caretakers or personal maid or whoever she had isn't around anymore, I'd have to say I believe it is simple laziness on the part of the staff. Lemrina, even if sequestered, had to have someone taking care of her unless she was left for literal dead, and even then she'd still need to be guarded to prevent her from becoming a public issue. But we already have a maid character in Edelertiasdtasdtlaj, and having her "fill in" makes Lemrina while in disguise look legitimate, and also provides a way to keep Edeleaealkjgljsg close to Asseylum for the inevitable waking up.

ANGRY2011 said:
From an in-universe perspective, when they decided to start allowing Lemrina out around the base more and using her as Asseylum, they might have "retired" her previous staff, perhaps to keep the secret more closely guarded. Lemrina's staff may not have necessarily been nice to her either, perhaps just being forced to perform under threat. We'll likely never know, but if they existed, Lemrina doesn't seem saddened by their loss.

ANGRY2011 said:
As for why she wouldn't get these things after Saaz takes over, who knows. Could be hard to actually do something like that maybe. Aldnoah cores, how do they work? Renovations to moon bases, probably not as simple as redoing a room. And then in the current time, not the priority in a war and with Lemrina likely having access to more than she did during her sequestration, she's probably already happier with her living conditions than before.
That's all my speculation on the matter, if I had to try to justify it.

deadoptimist said:
Agreed, a lot of faces have changed too. Also it reminds me of the intrigues in the classical literature about the high society. Only with mechas and fanservice.

deadoptimist said:
Well, yes. They are lazy. As animebloggers have pointed out somewhere else, it’s unclear why the twintails girl is in the same schoolclothes after two years and destruction of her school, for example, if not for the laziness of the designers.

deadoptimist said:
She is a great trump card for Saaz. He must’ve gained the position of the young king’s confidante to learn about her. Or maybe he orchestrated her being secret.

I can understand them trying to hide her, but I still think that on a closed-off space base rumors should spread fast and people should get curious. It must be hard to hide a girl from a garrison of bored soldiers. Some rumors should’ve gotten to other knights. At least more than one person should be aware.

deadoptimist said:
Yeah, it is possible that the stuff was removed. Still it’s eerie that Lemrina stays completely alone after Eddelrittuo has left, since se obviously needs constant help, and that she doesn’t mention or request another maid. Also it’s strange that she doesn’t dislike the maid of her rival. Of course, there is a matter of A.Z’s writing quality to explain it. But I just want to speculate about the universe a bit.

The conspirators could’ve also given her Eddelrittuo as means to look more like Asseylum and learn to behave like her, but, I think, giving her at least one other human contact, in a flashback or even in some memories about the past would’ve been better for the writing. And some explanations of her situation would’ve been nice.

deadoptimist said:
Yep, I am talking about her influence on Saaz. Of course, she doesn’t have authority and she can be killed, but she is extremely useful. In case of any plans made with the use of her aldnoah she can be very harmful, if she is displeased. And she can blackmail with promise of suicide, for example. So I don’t see why she couldn’t get some nice things. Also Saaz didn’t strike me as a person cruel to children or someone not capable of generosity.

And the cores seem to be so very miraculous. They have all these insane powers. Can’t there be one fit for helping her? Also there is the question of power sources in Vers. Everything seems to be aldnoah-powered aside from her chair.

deadoptimist said:

It successfully proves that the argument had already became heated by as early as in the thread for the 7th episode (I am countering your claim that it started only after the 12th episode), which was the point (not accusing Darklight this time).

deadoptimist said:

Most of the active users among those who are not a part of anti-Slaine party – Savethebestforu, ANGRY2011 (please, correct me, ANGRY, if I am wrong), Viktor_Otaku, kymano, AlexGK, Makaze_no_Moujuu…

deadoptimist said:

Since I made effort, please, cite the posts that say that Slaine is ideal and not to blame for anything from one of the recent three episode threads.

deadoptimist said:

If you’re tired, don’t ask. ^_^ That way you may notice that I have never presented myself as such. Talking about other people doesn’t mean being their representative (I haven’t used “we” nearly as often as you).

deadoptimist said:

Yeah, a sympathetic character turned into a yandere is a development, which gives him at least some complexity.

Now the problem with his motivations is a good point (which I brought up several times in our discussion), but that’s a problem of writing, since the motivation or the lack of one should be always present for an action (halfhearted attempts were made, but they’re not consistent). It would’ve been a great topic to discuss instead of your usual stuff.

deadoptimist said:

Yeah, since you insist that only your interpretation is correct there’s nothing that can be done here.

deadoptimist said:

Oh, please, show me at least one person openly sympathetic to Slaine who you haven’t attacked.

deadoptimist said:

I think that Inaho is a Gary Stu, but I don’t have a problem with you liking him until you start to attack other people because of that. If you do care about character progression, the first time you have shown it is in the quote above (the one about the motivation). But “obsessive jealous yandere” and “complete nutcase” are definitely not about writing – these are comments about personal qualities.

deadoptimist said:

Definitely no, but I believe I am usually more polite about it than you or some other Slaine haters.

And no, for the umpteenth time, I don’t care if you like him or not. I dislike you being aggressive about it and often not to the point in your comments.

deadoptimist said:

They’re pleasing it with both characters, if you have watched the OP or have been to the A.Z part of Pixiv.

deadoptimist said:

It’s your right, and it would be perfect if you expressed your opinion like this normally. Though I, personally, could’ve argued with you that Inaho has very few meaningful interactions with other characters. In any case that would’ve been a much more meaningful discussion than the one we have now. There would've been arguing, but on a whole other level.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
No it doesn't prove or counter anything. It's started to become this bad after episode 12 when slaine apologists tried to use this as a excuse that Inaho made Slaine his enemy or some other bs. You want to see for yourself, Aldnoah Zero forums aren't very far away you know.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Heh i will repeat it again.........you know what Selective Bias is don't you?
I am aware of it. That doesn’t change the fact that this is the list of the most active users not belonging to your faction, and they don’t say that Slaine is ideal, but are nonetheless attacked by Slaine’s haters.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Sigh this was painful to dig around........but can you show me some posts where people praised/sympathized with Slaine without bashing or blaming Inaho. There are several hate threads if you want to look around.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I am tired of asking because you use "Most of the people" or "Most of use" several times. So you think you don't act as such but your words say otherwise.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Yes he is such a complex character that now he has become the obsessive madman like some of us have been saying earlier. But lets ignore it as slaine-bashing and let's forget all the excuses made to justify his actions.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Oh yes buzzwords, automatically lessens the value of any opinion in my eyes. I didn't really bother posting until some slainefans started to shit on Inaho and his fans just to justify Slaine's sins. He got some great character degradation but whether that makes me like or hate the character is still my choice. Besides those comments on personal qualities aren't wrong. Are we going into moral aspects again? If so then i have already said what needed to be said.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Last time i checked it was mostly Slaine in uke position to other male characters or living in his dreamland with either princesses. I can hardly find pictures of Inaho but the few i found looks pretty badass. Like it or not, Slaine is an ideal fujoshi bait character. I still don't see the appeal of yandere characters though.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
But i have already said this quite a few times. I replied to your post about "the main characters not dying" too if you don't remember. Whether it was meaningful or not depends on your or my perspective btw.

deadoptimist said:


Yeah, been there, quoted that. It’s pretty strage that you somehow miss that the shooting episode was the turning point. The feud is going on since then. The stuff about the 12th episode is your opinion.





Ok, I admit that Zergneedsfood’s posts are valid.

LucinaXAvatar writes “I chalk it up to his inexperience and lack of information as to what the hell is going on”, which basically means that there’re some faults, so she offers an explanation to his misdeeds, i.e. admits that there’re some problems with his actions. But fine, let’s suppose this somehow counts too.

Jekarams post is taken from the “who shoot first” argument and concerns only that case.

What the posts about Inaho’s death are to do with the subject is unclear to me, cause thy don’t contain any attempts of justification for Slaine’s actions and are not concerned with Slaine.

The examples:

Solely from this thread and a bit of the previous:















They don’t. I can talk this way about people I disagree with as in “Most of people who belong to anti Slaine faction are very stubborn”.



Becoming a madman and being a complex character are two different things not connected directly, but often going together. A character becoming mad doesn't stop him from being complex.

Though a character can be madly written, i.e. be a mess of traits and motivations, which may apply to Slaine.



What even. I have mentioned many times that I don't plan to change anyone's opinion.



Wow, so now being used by fujoshi only counts if the character is the bottom… I won’t post links to fujoshi fanarts, but you must’ve searched poorly to not see a lot of Inaho x Slaine yaoi. Each time I want to find any art for A.Z I stumble upon such works. Can’t imagine how you could miss it, unless Pixiv has suddenly drastically changed.



Hm, I don’t remember it, so, I guess, it was ok.

Darklight0303 said:
You were saying?

deadoptimist said:


I was saying that yaoi fanart with Inaho very well exists.

Your taste in fanarts is terrible. I've seen better versions of Slaine x Cruhteo.

Darklight0303 said:


I just grabbed the first thing that showed up on Tumblr. You think I'd waste time looking into this kind of brain rotting trash? Did you know that the fujoshi's were headcanoning how Cruhteo's son was from Slaine? Again. Fujoshi's are to be feared. Especially outside of their designated series.

deadoptimist said:



I like the counts so I was looking for the art with them, and I've seen a lot of things I'd rather unsee. ><
No, fortunately I haven't known it... until now. Though I once read by mistake a fanfic about pregnant Abaddon from Warhammer 40k, so I am sure there is no boundaries for this shit...
Personally I am particualr to fanarts with Slaine and Cruhteo having a father-parent realtionship, cause they look good together. But this sick stuff... no, just no. And I don't understand the passion of turning a hetero characters into gay characters.

BurntJelly said:
His ship "broke down"... clever.

This is not going to work out well for Slaine.