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Apr 7, 2015 4:25 AM

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SirJayce said:
why does this have to focus on the two most boring characters (rin and shirou) and their awkward love story instead of keeping the actual story interesting? this does have potential and a few good characters but it keeps getting ruined by unnecessary scenes. thats's like watching fate/zero solely from waver's perspective.


Lmao
Apr 7, 2015 4:26 AM

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damastah said:
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Because the story is more about Shirou's growth and not the the war. And boring is subjective.

THIS. Shirou is "MC" after all.


Given Ufo should have done better job at making people like him tho instead of taking that away.
Apr 7, 2015 4:35 AM

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SirJayce said:
thats's like watching fate/zero solely from waver's perspective
nah at least that'd be more entertaining because Rider
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Apr 7, 2015 4:36 AM

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CookingPriest said:
damastah said:

THIS. Shirou is "MC" after all.


Given Ufo should have done better job at making people like him tho instead of taking that away.


Well, he got a new meme, at least...

"Bite me!" -Emiya Shirou


MyNameIsJeff said:
SirJayce said:
thats's like watching fate/zero solely from waver's perspective
nah at least that'd be more entertaining because Rider


I'd rather watch Gilgamesh drink wine all day than follow that red oaf around.
Apr 7, 2015 7:04 AM
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3/10 episode, was handled very poorly.
Apr 7, 2015 7:39 AM

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whatstaunt said:
3/10 episode, was handled very poorly.


Whatstaunt does it again. Assuming it's really him.
Apr 7, 2015 8:24 AM

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rin is too tsundere and shirou is so stupid
3/5
Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies
Nor is it to cut away your own weakness
A sword isnt meant to protect your body
A sword is meant for protecting your soul"
Apr 7, 2015 8:41 AM

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MyNameIsJeff said:
SirJayce said:
thats's like watching fate/zero solely from waver's perspective
nah at least that'd be more entertaining because Rider

Another Iskander casual...
Apr 7, 2015 8:45 AM

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damastah said:
MyNameIsJeff said:
nah at least that'd be more entertaining because Rider

Another Iskander casual...



OneTrueEmiya said:

I'd rather watch Gilgamesh drink wine all day than follow that red oaf around.
Apr 7, 2015 10:44 AM

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OneTrueEmiya said:

Why are there so many Shirou-Avatar people trying to copy the One True Emiya?


Because who can resist the sexist ginger emiya kun?
Apr 7, 2015 1:10 PM

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Damn, both the ending and the Opening were godlike. The budget for this adaptation is truly out of control.

Not that I'm complaining, since the 2nd part of UBW is the pinnacle of F/SN.
Apr 7, 2015 1:39 PM

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Finally a monologue, I hope there will be more in the following episodes.

Kind of disappointed by the OP and ED, neither good nor bad, maybe I was expecting too much.

Nice to hear Sorrow, but no Ever-present Feeling. Also I wonder why they were not in the graveyard.
The rest is good.
Apr 7, 2015 3:12 PM

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Boring episode.

Less talk, more action.

4/5
Apr 7, 2015 3:14 PM

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Taito10 said:
Boring episode.


Taito10 said:
4/5


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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Apr 7, 2015 3:14 PM
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GangstaPriest said:
Taito10 said:
Boring episode.


Taito10 said:
4/5


...IGN?
Damn I was gonna say that. Also, I swear I've seen him say that on another episode discussion.
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Apr 7, 2015 6:11 PM

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GangstaPriest said:
Taito10 said:
Boring episode.


Taito10 said:
4/5


...IGN?


hahaha rekt
Apr 7, 2015 10:54 PM

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I finally had time to watch this episode. I heard that it was a bit rushed, but this is pretty terrible and is reminiscent of DEEN's atrocious pacing. The Saber dress scene took up much more time than necessary. It's one thing to show its eroge roots, but the way they did it pretty much "confirms" secondary bias that F/SN is just a porn game. Miura's waifu pandering is becoming rather intolerable...

Archer was portrayed to be the character to sympathize with rather than hate. It looked like by attacking her in order to give her distance from Kuzuki's punches that he was actually saving her from death instead of betraying her and acting like a gloating asshole, and that's another adaptation fail. Also, Rin actually looked like she was actually going to win against Caster herself.

As for Shirou, I can't believe I'm saying this but it looked as bad as people feared. There was absolutely no reason for him to trip like that during such an important moment. It doesn't matter how high he jumped from, just seeing him stumble like that only serves to make him look more like a clumsy idiot and already ruined any possibility of him looking good in his rescue attempt.

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.

Rating: 1/5
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I lasted until tripped.

Is it sad that it's getting so close to truth that I can't defect it anymore? Maybe you're just getting better zero.
Apr 8, 2015 12:25 AM

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ZeroDragon said:
I finally had time to watch this episode. I heard that it was a bit rushed, but this is pretty terrible and is reminiscent of DEEN's atrocious pacing. The Saber dress scene took up much more time than necessary. It's one thing to show its eroge roots, but the way they did it pretty much "confirms" secondary bias that F/SN is just a porn game. Miura's waifu pandering is becoming rather intolerable...

Archer was portrayed to be the character to sympathize with rather than hate. It looked like by attacking her in order to give her distance from Kuzuki's punches that he was actually saving her from death instead of betraying her and acting like a gloating asshole, and that's another adaptation fail. Also, Rin actually looked like she was actually going to win against Caster herself.

As for Shirou, I can't believe I'm saying this but it looked as bad as people feared. There was absolutely no reason for him to trip like that during such an important moment. It doesn't matter how high he jumped from, just seeing him stumble like that only serves to make him look more like a clumsy idiot and already ruined any possibility of him looking good in his rescue attempt.

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.

Rating: 1/5

Apr 8, 2015 12:46 AM

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SirJayce said:
why does this have to focus on the two most boring characters (rin and shirou) and their awkward love story instead of keeping the actual story interesting? this does have potential and a few good characters but it keeps getting ruined by unnecessary scenes. thats's like watching fate/zero solely from waver's perspective.


waver is the most interesting character in FZ.

Your point is...?
Apr 8, 2015 2:21 AM

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ZeroDragon said:

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.


I suppose we can agree on this one thing, King of Heroes. Lack of EPF was the most disappointing element in this episode. Why did we get a Sorrow remix and not an EPF remix? :<
Apr 8, 2015 2:30 AM

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OneTrueEmiya said:
ZeroDragon said:

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.


I suppose we can agree on this one thing, King of Heroes. Lack of EPF was the most disappointing element in this episode. Why did we get a Sorrow remix and not an EPF remix? :<


WHY U DO DIS TO US FUKASAWA?!?!?!?!
Apr 8, 2015 2:32 AM

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DenseMotherfcker said:
OneTrueEmiya said:


I suppose we can agree on this one thing, King of Heroes. Lack of EPF was the most disappointing element in this episode. Why did we get a Sorrow remix and not an EPF remix? :<


WHY U DO DIS TO US FUKASAWA?!?!?!?!


inb4 fukusawa's interview has him admit that Miura wanted him to work on Sorrow instead of EPF.
Apr 8, 2015 2:49 AM

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DenseMotherfcker said:
OneTrueEmiya said:


I suppose we can agree on this one thing, King of Heroes. Lack of EPF was the most disappointing element in this episode. Why did we get a Sorrow remix and not an EPF remix? :<


WHY U DO DIS TO US FUKASAWA?!?!?!?!


Fukasawa does not decide where to use the music, Miura does.

in before ever present feeling being used in end credits.
Apr 8, 2015 2:52 AM

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CookingPriest said:
DenseMotherfcker said:


WHY U DO DIS TO US FUKASAWA?!?!?!?!


Fukasawa does not decide where to use the music, Miura does.

in before ever present feeling being used in end credits.

It's partly Fukasawa's fault for not attemting to cover EPF...
Apr 8, 2015 2:55 AM

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DenseMotherfcker said:
CookingPriest said:


Fukasawa does not decide where to use the music, Miura does.

in before ever present feeling being used in end credits.

It's partly Fukasawa's fault for not attemting to cover EPF...


We do not know if it was covered. For all we know it was and Miura simply did not use it.
Apr 8, 2015 7:05 AM

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Rejoice anime savior has return!

Op ok

Ed ok

Budget = high

Rin moe tsun check and yeah saber is bending over. Ok serious face(o.o) hmmm are they going to stretch this cause the movie version at this point is like.....almost over? Ok start.
Apr 8, 2015 7:14 AM

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ZeroDragon said:

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.


It's okay, Gil-kun, I'm sure fans will edit it in later on Nico and/or Youtube :3


Apr 8, 2015 7:19 AM

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CarenPriest said:
ZeroDragon said:

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.


It's okay, Gil-kun, I'm sure fans will edit it in later on Nico and/or Youtube :3


There's already one, I think. It really does fit the scene... ;_;

cyborgneko999 said:
Rejoice anime savior has return!

Op ok

Ed ok

Budget = high

Rin moe tsun check and yeah saber is bending over. Ok serious face(o.o) hmmm are they going to stretch this cause the movie version at this point is like.....almost over? Ok start.


They're (mostly) staying loyal to the VN, so there's still a lot of stuff to get through before we reach the end~
Apr 8, 2015 10:55 AM

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spoilers, spoilers everywhere...
Apr 8, 2015 12:37 PM

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not a very intriguing first ep, a bit dissapointed that the only interesting thing about the previous ep was solved off screen
tsundere act was quite annoying to be honest
Apr 8, 2015 12:45 PM

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silversaint said:
not a very intriguing first ep, a bit dissapointed that the only interesting thing about the previous ep was solved off screen
tsundere act was quite annoying to be honest
the fight itself was anime original fanservice anyways....
Apr 8, 2015 5:40 PM

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silversaint said:
not a very intriguing first ep, a bit dissapointed that the only interesting thing about the previous ep was solved off screen
tsundere act was quite annoying to be honest


Things shall heat up quite soon
Apr 9, 2015 2:25 AM

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silversaint said:
not a very intriguing first ep, a bit dissapointed that the only interesting thing about the previous ep was solved off screen
tsundere act was quite annoying to be honest


Get ready for visual orgasm soon.
Apr 9, 2015 5:24 AM

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Anyway I've now seen / read a lot of discussion along the lines of "Rin should have used her final command seal to get Archer to not join Caster", but what would that have accomplished? First of all, the masters want to always keep at least one command seal as insurance, because after it's gone Archer could just, say, kill Rin if he wanted to. Also, what's the point of having a servant who isn't willingly serving you anyway? So yeah I feel like these people haven't thought this through.
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Apr 9, 2015 5:26 AM

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ijuka said:
Anyway I've now seen / read a lot of discussion along the lines of "Rin should have used her final command seal to get Archer to not join Caster", but what would that have accomplished? First of all, the masters want to always keep at least one command seal as insurance, because after it's gone Archer could just, say, kill Rin if he wanted to. Also, what's the point of having a servant who isn't willingly serving you anyway? So yeah I feel like these people haven't thought this through.


First of all,the shock was a great factor and secondly,you will find people trying to find flaws when there aren't
Apr 9, 2015 5:56 AM

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Ok episode. Had to skip the last minutes cause it was so dull. Looking forward to see how they get their servants back (if they do).

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ijuka said:
Anyway I've now seen / read a lot of discussion along the lines of "Rin should have used her final command seal to get Archer to not join Caster", but what would that have accomplished? First of all, the masters want to always keep at least one command seal as insurance, because after it's gone Archer could just, say, kill Rin if he wanted to. Also, what's the point of having a servant who isn't willingly serving you anyway? So yeah I feel like these people haven't thought this through.


First of all,the shock was a great factor and secondly,you will find people trying to find flaws when there aren't


Or maybe Rin should have used it to make Archer follow the plan and kill Caster? Yea it would be her last command but Caster is the strongest master/servant right now so Archer would probably stay with Rin with the support of Shirou and Saber after Caster is gone. I dont know. I guess he could still betray her and join another master.
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GrumpyWolf said:
Ok episode. Had to skip the last minutes cause it was so dull. Looking forward to see how they get their servants back (if they do).

chat77 said:


First of all,the shock was a great factor and secondly,you will find people trying to find flaws when there aren't


Or maybe rin should have used it to make Archer follow the plan and kill Caster? Yea it would be her last command but caster is the strongest master/servant right now so Archer would probably stay with rin with the support of shirou and saber after she is gone. I dont know. I guess he could still betray her and join another master.
You can't just use a command seal to kill a person and then that person dies automatically, the servant you command needs to be able to do so. Not saying that Archer wouldn't have been able to(doubt it very much though), but after that Archer could have killed both Rin and Shirou, right?
ijukaApr 9, 2015 6:05 AM
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GrumpyWolf said:
Ok episode. Had to skip the last minutes cause it was so dull. Looking forward to see how they get their servants back (if they do).

chat77 said:


First of all,the shock was a great factor and secondly,you will find people trying to find flaws when there aren't


Or maybe rin should have used it to make Archer follow the plan and kill Caster? Yea it would be her last command but Caster is the strongest master/servant right now so Archer would probably stay with Rin with the support of Shirou and Saber after Caster is gone. I dont know. I guess he could still betray her and join another master.


You do realize that Archer went to the temple without Rin's approval in ep 7.And when he is hell bent on joining her,a single command seal is not going to stop him.Also,Archer's independent action is quite high
Apr 9, 2015 6:02 AM

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GrumpyWolf said:
Ok episode. Had to skip the last minutes cause it was so dull. Looking forward to see how they get their servants back (if they do).

chat77 said:


First of all,the shock was a great factor and secondly,you will find people trying to find flaws when there aren't


Or maybe Rin should have used it to make Archer follow the plan and kill Caster? Yea it would be her last command but Caster is the strongest master/servant right now so Archer would probably stay with Rin with the support of Shirou and Saber after Caster is gone. I dont know. I guess he could still betray her and join another master.


It probably wouldn't have worked out. If a Servant resists (and has high enough Magic Resistance), they can hold off a Command Seal for a while. Archer's is Rank D or something like that, so there should be enough time for Caster to stab him regardless of the CS. He also has the Independent Action skill, which gives him more liberties than a Servant usually would. Besides, Rin was frozen in shock anyway.
Apr 9, 2015 6:09 AM

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ZeroDragon said:
I finally had time to watch this episode. I heard that it was a bit rushed, but this is pretty terrible and is reminiscent of DEEN's atrocious pacing. The Saber dress scene took up much more time than necessary. It's one thing to show its eroge roots, but the way they did it pretty much "confirms" secondary bias that F/SN is just a porn game. Miura's waifu pandering is becoming rather intolerable...

Archer was portrayed to be the character to sympathize with rather than hate. It looked like by attacking her in order to give her distance from Kuzuki's punches that he was actually saving her from death instead of betraying her and acting like a gloating asshole, and that's another adaptation fail. Also, Rin actually looked like she was actually going to win against Caster herself.

As for Shirou, I can't believe I'm saying this but it looked as bad as people feared. There was absolutely no reason for him to trip like that during such an important moment. It doesn't matter how high he jumped from, just seeing him stumble like that only serves to make him look more like a clumsy idiot and already ruined any possibility of him looking good in his rescue attempt.

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.

Rating: 1/5
My detector is broken now....
Apr 9, 2015 6:18 AM

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Othi-tan said:
ZeroDragon said:
I finally had time to watch this episode. I heard that it was a bit rushed, but this is pretty terrible and is reminiscent of DEEN's atrocious pacing. The Saber dress scene took up much more time than necessary. It's one thing to show its eroge roots, but the way they did it pretty much "confirms" secondary bias that F/SN is just a porn game. Miura's waifu pandering is becoming rather intolerable...

Archer was portrayed to be the character to sympathize with rather than hate. It looked like by attacking her in order to give her distance from Kuzuki's punches that he was actually saving her from death instead of betraying her and acting like a gloating asshole, and that's another adaptation fail. Also, Rin actually looked like she was actually going to win against Caster herself.

As for Shirou, I can't believe I'm saying this but it looked as bad as people feared. There was absolutely no reason for him to trip like that during such an important moment. It doesn't matter how high he jumped from, just seeing him stumble like that only serves to make him look more like a clumsy idiot and already ruined any possibility of him looking good in his rescue attempt.

NO EVER-PRESENT FEELING. Its exclusion removed nearly all of the scene's emotional impact.

Rating: 1/5
My detector is broken now....


It's probably sarcastic. But I have to agree that lack of EPF makes the scene less than what it could have been.
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OneTrueEmiya said:
Othi-tan said:
My detector is broken now....


It's probably sarcastic. But I have to agree that lack of EPF makes the scene less than what it could have been.
Only for Vn readers.
Apr 9, 2015 6:36 AM

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Othi-tan said:

Ufotable had access to VN OST though, since y'know, Sorrow.
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Othi-tan said:
OneTrueEmiya said:


It's probably sarcastic. But I have to agree that lack of EPF makes the scene less than what it could have been.
Only for Vn readers.

I don't agree with this, as a stand-alone the track is very good. I've had people who never have read the VN love the track. For me, it wouldn't even need to be that specific track as long as it was as good. It was nowhere near.
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Othi-tan said:
OneTrueEmiya said:


It's probably sarcastic. But I have to agree that lack of EPF makes the scene less than what it could have been.
Only for Vn readers.


Which is why it hurts so much for me :(
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GrumpyWolf said:
Ok episode. Had to skip the last minutes cause it was so dull. Looking forward to see how they get their servants back (if they do).

chat77 said:


First of all,the shock was a great factor and secondly,you will find people trying to find flaws when there aren't


Or maybe Rin should have used it to make Archer follow the plan and kill Caster? Yea it would be her last command but Caster is the strongest master/servant right now so Archer would probably stay with Rin with the support of Shirou and Saber after Caster is gone. I dont know. I guess he could still betray her and join another master.

Ormaybe the moment Rin wereto try that,allthree of them(archer,Caster and Kuizuki) would have squashed her like a bug?
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CookingPriest said:
GrumpyWolf said:
Ok episode. Had to skip the last minutes cause it was so dull. Looking forward to see how they get their servants back (if they do).



Or maybe Rin should have used it to make Archer follow the plan and kill Caster? Yea it would be her last command but Caster is the strongest master/servant right now so Archer would probably stay with Rin with the support of Shirou and Saber after Caster is gone. I dont know. I guess he could still betray her and join another master.

Ormaybe the moment Rin wereto try that,allthree of them(archer,Caster and Kuizuki) would have squashed her like a bug?

#AlternateScenario #Shirou4HumanShield2015
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damastah said:
CookingPriest said:

Ormaybe the moment Rin wereto try that,allthree of them(archer,Caster and Kuizuki) would have squashed her like a bug?

#AlternateScenario #Shirou4HumanShield2015


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