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Mar 22, 2015 4:59 AM

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Savethebestforu said:
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LOL matured Slaine. Best joke


What's the joke? She was saying have the next season cover Slaine as an adult...

mature(adjective)-fully developed physically; full-grown.


Nah, I think he has matured considerably already. But I also accounted for this meaning as well. I want to see him older, firmer and, finally, standing properly on his own. It's even kinda boring to see him always unsecure and in turmoil.
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Someone give this guy a fucking medal. The voice of reason.
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TeriyakiNinja007 said:
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This far in, I still find myself wishing this was a completely different show. People can complain that I'm still picking apart the show, but I'm giving my opinion about a part of this episode.

The 20 or so seconds of Slaine giving his pre-battle speech before he was interrupted by the Princess was really engaging IMO and it was a fantastic VA performance. Combined with the shots of all the unique looks female/male counts in different locations, you just have to think of how much better this show would have been if the ENTIRE focus of the show was on Vers. Think about it. Just cut out the story on Earth and have it deal mostly in the destruction/revolution of Vers. What mostly failed this show in my opinion was the cast of Earth. They took up 75% of the first season and 50% of the second and even though they are greater in number than the Vers characters, they still offer much less in every category.

Anyways, Asseylum was pretty unbearable. She believes that she understands everything going on around her and that she knows best, which really confuses me. The difference with Slaine is that he knows that what he is doing is wrong but uses it as a means to an end and also he is portrayed as the villain. Asseylum is going to run Vers into the ground IMO with her idealology, unless she has an unforeseen plan that she has created. But what pisses me off even more is that the show seems to be taking a major "black and white" approach near the end. Cruhteo's son is maybe the biggest excuse for a plot device I've ever seen in anime. Why did the show even need him in the first place when they had Mazuurek? Couldn't she just marry Mazzurek? He acts like a giddy school-girl wanting her senpai to notice her around Asseylum anyways so I'm sure he'd marry her.

I liked it better than last episode, but that's not saying much. Every scene with Inaho was meh. They are trying to paint him as a tragic hero so badly that it's not working for me.


Holy crap. You have shown me the light :O if this were centred on Vers I'd be drooling all over this like a hormonal teenager.


It really does, doesn't it? Obviously it wouldn't have the writing quality of LOTGH, but they created a pretty great concept with the feudal system. The best route they could have taken IMO was showing us characters inside the feudal system. Queens, commoners, counts, soldiers, and rebels. Some people wouldn't be for a politically based sci-fi, but I think the idea of Vers was ruined by the writers.
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Mar 22, 2015 5:08 AM

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deadoptimist said:
Nah, I think he has matured considerably already. But I also accounted for this meaning as well. I want to see him older, firmer and, finally, standing properly on his own. It's even kinda boring to see him always unsecure and in turmoil.


Honestly I was trying to level with Darklight, because I know he would never agree to what you are saying. I agree with you that he's matured emotionally. He actually has the makings of a good leader when looked at it from the surface. He doesn't let his emotions affect his decisions when giving orders and he is oozing with charisma. He seems like a totally different person, and that's probably what the show was trying to convey after the time-skip even though they did a half-ass job of it.
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Someone give this guy a fucking medal. The voice of reason.

Nah Inaho's death flags are raised pretty high for this final episode. He even said so himself.
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> Thinks he can build a world without conflict and worry
> mature

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Mar 22, 2015 5:24 AM

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deadoptimist said:
Savethebestforu said:


What's the joke? She was saying have the next season cover Slaine as an adult...

mature(adjective)-fully developed physically; full-grown.


Nah, I think he has matured considerably already. But I also accounted for this meaning as well. I want to see him older, firmer and, finally, standing properly on his own. It's even kinda boring to see him always unsecure and in turmoil.


If he was mature he would have let the princess do whatever the fuck she wanted and carried on with his plan or maybe even fortified his position for when the princess would make his move against him. Instead he lied to her face and was ready to put her right back in her golden cage. There's no maturity there. Only madness.
Mar 22, 2015 5:25 AM

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Raziel1991 said:
>Thinks he can build a world without conflict and worry
> mature

lol


Isn't this exactly what LeLouch's goal was? To build this world for Nunnally?
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Savethebestforu said:
deadoptimist said:
Nah, I think he has matured considerably already. But I also accounted for this meaning as well. I want to see him older, firmer and, finally, standing properly on his own. It's even kinda boring to see him always unsecure and in turmoil.


Honestly I was trying to level with Darklight, because I know he would never agree to what you are saying. I agree with you that he's matured emotionally. He actually has the makings of a good leader when looked at it from the surface. He doesn't let his emotions affect his decisions when giving orders and he is oozing with charisma. He seems like a totally different person, and that's probably what the show was trying to convey after the time-skip even though they did a half-ass job of it.


I've seen more charisma on a bulldog than Slaine. Next episode should prove how little charisma he really has when we see how many counts actually stick to him and how many turn against him.
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Savethebestforu said:
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>Thinks he can build a world without conflict and worry
> mature

lol


Isn't this exactly what LeLouch's goal was? To build this world for Nunnally?


Don't compare Lelouch to Slaine Ever.
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Darklight0303 said:
I've seen more charisma on a bulldog than Slaine. Next episode should prove how little charisma he really has when we see how many counts actually stick to him and how many turn against him.


We'll see. The fact of the matter is that one of his strong points in season 2 was the addition of charisma to his character when addressing his superiors/inferiors. Are you even going to go as far to argue that Inaho has more charisma than Slaine? Please do.
Mar 22, 2015 5:32 AM

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CynicofSinope said:
Don't compare Lelouch to Slaine Ever.


Lol. I find it really interesting how people can be so passionate about one morally grey idealist and then fervently hate another in the same genre. Just because the show paints Inaho as the hero and Slaine as the villain doesn't mean all similarities to LeLouch go away. These LeLouch fans be cray...

Anyways, as long as they aren't boring characters, why should we hate them so much?
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Savethebestforu said:
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I've seen more charisma on a bulldog than Slaine. Next episode should prove how little charisma he really has when we see how many counts actually stick to him and how many turn against him.


We'll see. The fact of the matter is that one of his strong points in season 2 was the addition of charisma to his character when addressing his superiors/inferiors. Are you even going to go as far to argue that Inaho has more charisma than Slaine? Please do.


Slaine's so called charisma doesn't come naturally. It's completely artificial and it comes from his fake engagement with the princess. At least when it comes to matters outside of his castle. It comes from those who are allied with him and gave him the power and position in the first place.

Inaho doesn't try to be charismatic and yet he still has more loyal people than Slaine. That speaks for itself. Even Lemrina sabotaged him with Asseylum.
Mar 22, 2015 5:36 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
If he was mature he would have let the princess do whatever the fuck she wanted and carried on with his plan or maybe even fortified his position for when the princess would make his move against him.


What? Why? I say he should kill her and side with Lemrina, but giving her free reign is detrimental to his plans.

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> Thinks he can build a world without conflict and worry
> mature

lol

He said it to Lemrina as a form of guilty explanation of why it's so important that he hadn't told her that Asseylum is conscious. They also had a conversation about creating a safe heaven before.
Would you start to go into details in his circumstances, while talking to girl you don't even like?
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Savethebestforu said:
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Don't compare Lelouch to Slaine Ever.


Lol. I find it really interesting how people can be so passionate about one morally grey idealist and then fervently hate another in the same genre. Just because the show paints Inaho as the hero and Slaine as the villain doesn't mean all similarities to LeLouch go away. These LeLouch fans be cray...

Anyways, as long as they aren't boring characters, why should we hate them so much?


Because Lelouch was competent. Because Lelouch actually took on the hate of those around him whereas Slaine doesn't care about the hate and still does what the fuck he wants regardless. That's the difference. Lelouch wanted to be hated by the world in the end. Slaine has no such goal. He just doesn't care because his way is the best one in his deluded mind. THAT is the difference
Mar 22, 2015 5:39 AM

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WTF

Wow, Slain will certainly die in the next ep.
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deadoptimist said:
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If he was mature he would have let the princess do whatever the fuck she wanted and carried on with his plan or maybe even fortified his position for when the princess would make his move against him.


What? Why? I say he should kill her and side with Lemrina, but giving her free reign is detrimental to his plans.

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> Thinks he can build a world without conflict and worry
> mature

lol

He said it to Lemrina as a form of guilty explanation of why it's so important that he hadn't told her that Asseylum is conscious. They also had a conversation about creating a safe heaven before.
Would you start to go into details in his circumstances, while talking to girl you don't even like?


Sure kiling her was an option too. But the fact that he didn't also contradicts your argument that he's matured. You seem to think I actually care what the princess does. No I only want to see the mad dog get put down no matter how it's done
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Savethebestforu said:
CynicofSinope said:
Don't compare Lelouch to Slaine Ever.


Lol. I find it really interesting how people can be so passionate about one morally grey idealist and then fervently hate another in the same genre. Just because the show paints Inaho as the hero and Slaine as the villain doesn't mean all similarities to LeLouch go away. These LeLouch fans be cray...

Anyways, as long as they aren't boring characters, why should we hate them so much?


I've been thinking about it, and the role of the villain they give to Slain ruins the show a lot. It simply doesn't compute and it applies to many aspects. Like, for example, a villain shouldn't be so unlucky, unless it's a cartoon for kids. Slain is so oppressed by writing, that he doesn't give a real feeling of danger for others.
And for a second protagonist he is driven to a corner too much.

Though I won't be surprised if they "kill" him ans still use him for the second season now based on his father's reaearch.
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CynicofSinope said:
Savethebestforu said:


Lol. I find it really interesting how people can be so passionate about one morally grey idealist and then fervently hate another in the same genre. Just because the show paints Inaho as the hero and Slaine as the villain doesn't mean all similarities to LeLouch go away. These LeLouch fans be cray...

Anyways, as long as they aren't boring characters, why should we hate them so much?


I think the supposition can be made that everyone agrees this anime is not great. People can be passionate about Lelouch and not Slaine, because Lelouch is an actual character that adhere's more to everyone's apparent "standardized" definitions of a good character more than Slaine. The only reason arguments exist concerning Inaho versus Slaine, comes from the fact that they are the only elements in this series in general that we have any substantial knowledge about.

Comparing Aldnoah Zero to Code Geass or Slaine to Lelouch, is like trying to compare
a community college to MIT.....Don't.


You might not like it, but you can definitely compare community colleges and MIT. You can find many similarities between them. There's no need to have such a vehement response to such a thing. Similarity =/= the same, after all, so who cares? I definitely don't think anyone is making a statement AZ is better than CG or Slaine is better than Lelouch.
Mar 22, 2015 5:46 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Sure kiling her was an option too. But the fact that he didn't also contradicts your argument that he's matured. You seem to think I actually care what the princess does. No I only want to see the mad dog get put down no matter how it's done


Nah, please, explain first how letting her go would be beneficial for him.
He, sadly, can't kill her in this series, cause he is supposed to be obsessed with her and they think they need her for further plot. Too bad that they also can't portray a downfall because of love story properly.
And you tended to bring up his love a lot previosly, so of course I think that you care.

I am always surprised by the "mad dog" part, because it was not him who started the war and he couldn't ever reallly end it.

You know the most amazing part, I've noticed? I haven't watched any of the terrans' scenes and I am still mostly up to date with discussion.
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deadoptimist said:
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Sure kiling her was an option too. But the fact that he didn't also contradicts your argument that he's matured. You seem to think I actually care what the princess does. No I only want to see the mad dog get put down no matter how it's done


Nah, please, explain first how letting her go would be beneficial for him.
He, sadly, can't kill her in this series, cause he is supposed to be obsessed with her and they think they need her for further plot. Too bad that they also can't portray a downfall because of love story properly.
And you tended to bring up his love a lot previosly, so of course I think that you care.

I am always surprised by the "mad dog" part, because it was not him who started the war and he couldn't ever reallly end it.


It wouldn't be beneficial to him at all but it would show some of that maturity you think he developed to actually let her go and stay on his path regardless instead of trying to stuff her back into the golden cage he's fashioned for her.

It was him that kept the war going when he stupidly saved Sazbaum which got the princess shot. It was also him that completely ignored the Princess' last moments and lashed out with his misguided hatred at the person who had kept her safe all this time. That's what makes him a mad dog.
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ANGRY2011 said:
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I think the supposition can be made that everyone agrees this anime is not great. People can be passionate about Lelouch and not Slaine, because Lelouch is an actual character that adhere's more to everyone's apparent "standardized" definitions of a good character more than Slaine. The only reason arguments exist concerning Inaho versus Slaine, comes from the fact that they are the only elements in this series in general that we have any substantial knowledge about.

Comparing Aldnoah Zero to Code Geass or Slaine to Lelouch, is like trying to compare
a community college to MIT.....Don't.


You might not like it, but you can definitely compare community colleges and MIT. You can find many similarities between them. There's no need to have such a vehement response to such a thing. Similarity =/= the same, after all, so who cares? I definitely don't think anyone is making a statement AZ is better than CG or Slaine is better than Lelouch.


I doubt that comparing a community college to MIT will yield substantial results, other than:

-Do they both have bathrooms? = Yep.

-Do they both have Colleges of Engineering? = Maybe, Depends on the community college.

-Do they both have dorms? = Maybe, depends on the community college.
.
.
.
.
etc.

You generally would not see someone comparing a community college to MIT, because they are most definitely not in the same ordered category. If you want to prove me wrong, link me to a recognized and accredited source that ranks United States universities, and has compared a community college to MIT.

It's the same with Aldnoah Zero and Code Geass. Code Geass is in acategory that Aldnoah Zero could only hope to dream to atttain. It is baseless.
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CynicofSinope said:
ANGRY2011 said:


You might not like it, but you can definitely compare community colleges and MIT. You can find many similarities between them. There's no need to have such a vehement response to such a thing. Similarity =/= the same, after all, so who cares? I definitely don't think anyone is making a statement AZ is better than CG or Slaine is better than Lelouch.


I doubt that comparing a community college to MIT will yield substantial results, other than:

-Do they both have bathrooms? = Yep.

-Do they both have Colleges of Engineering? = Maybe, Depends on the community college.

-Do they both have dorms? = Maybe, depends on the community college.
.
.
.
.
etc.

You generally would not see someone comparing a community college to MIT, because they are most definitely not in the same ordered category. If you wan to prove me wrong, link me to a recognized and accredited United States University ranking source that has compared a community college to MIT.

It's the same with Aldnoah Zero and Code Geass. Code Geass is in acategory that Aldnoah Zero could only hope to dream to atttain. It is baseless.


I can come up with a LOT more similarities between a community college and MIT than that, which I'm guessing you're throwing under "etc."

Your second statement has... uh... no point and backing? You generally wouldn't see someone comparing them? You're more likely to see MIT and Cal Berkeley compared than MIT and a community college, but you're also more likely to see MIT compared to a community college than MIT compared to a banana.

Because they're both forms of post-secondary education, in America, which generally you have to pay for, and offer degrees, etc.

It certainly isn't baseless. Calm down, and don't exaggerate.

EDIT: I see you've made an edit, but your edit also isn't really important. Once again, no one here (to my knowledge) has argued that AZ is of higher quality than CG, and your only argument seems to rest around the quality of schooling.
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MonadoRudra said:
So it seems Slaine will still be the final villain(?) because Inaho will surely side with Klancain as Klancain is an Earth loving pacifist?

Or is it going to be shit tier ending where it's a literal three way battle for Asseylum's cunt between Inaho, Slaine and lolKlancain.


I pray for shitstorm because it's a lot more fun in the end. Personally I wouldn't mind if someone dropped a Landing Castle on her ass. All she does is cry and wring her hands most of the show anyhow while people run around killing in her name FFS
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Darklight0303 said:
It wouldn't be beneficial to him at all but it would show some of that maturity you think he developed to actually let her go and stay on his path regardless instead of trying to stuff her back into the golden cage he's fashioned for her.


Oh, look, you side with the princess' pov again. You see. You do care about her. because otherwise - why? Maturity doesn't mean altruism. She is an asset so letting her go is dangerous.

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It was him that kept the war going when he stupidly saved Sazbaum which got the princess shot. It was also him that completely ignored the Princess' last moments and lashed out with his misguided hatred at the person who had kept her safe all this time. That's what makes him a mad dog.


Oh, 12th episode, lol. So what? That was amidst the confusion of the battle. He could've been an ally if he hadn't been shot earlier by Inaho because of the same confusion of the battle.
It's not that the death of any of them was improbable in that scenario, this show doesn't use the "goal almost reached" trope a lot and the war would've necessary ended with the death of Saaz. Actually we see that the emperor stil holds a grudge against terrans.

Btw, please, someone, explain to me, how has the king exactly agree to the end of hostilities? Why Klancain is suddenly a pacifist?
I am too lazy to rewatch this mess.

Edit: Oh, and also why can't Slain go after Klancain's ship in Tharsis.
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CynicofSinope said:


I doubt that comparing a community college to MIT will yield substantial results, other than:

-Do they both have bathrooms? = Yep.

-Do they both have Colleges of Engineering? = Maybe, Depends on the community college.

-Do they both have dorms? = Maybe, depends on the community college.
.
.
.
.
etc.

You generally would not see someone comparing a community college to MIT, because they are most definitely not in the same ordered category. If you wan to prove me wrong, link me to a recognized and accredited United States University ranking source that has compared a community college to MIT.

It's the same with Aldnoah Zero and Code Geass. Code Geass is in acategory that Aldnoah Zero could only hope to dream to atttain. It is baseless.


I can come up with a LOT more similarities between a community college and MIT than that, which I'm guessing you're throwing under "etc."

Your second statement has... uh... no point and backing? You generally wouldn't see someone comparing them? You're more likely to see MIT and Cal Berkeley compared than MIT and a community college, but you're also more likely to see MIT compared to a community college than MIT compared to a banana.

Because they're both forms of post-secondary education, in America, which generally you have to pay for, and offer degrees, etc.

It certainly isn't baseless. Calm down, and don't exaggerate.


As I have mentioned before, it is unlikely to find MIT compared to a community college, and you have stated exactly why, they are in two completely different ordered categories.

As an extension it is also equally as unlikely to have MIT compared to a banana. So.....
Nonetheless, as I have said before, if you wan to prove me wrong, link me to a recognized and accredited United States University ranking source that has compared a community college to MIT. I can easily get you sources that rank U.S. universities with not a single mention of a community college. Back your statements up guy.

Also, in the case of Engineering, some community colleges can not even be compared to MIT, because their programs are not even accredited by ABET. This is the same for other majors such as Nursing, Medicine, Law, and even to an extent Graphic Design.

Facts are and always will be facts.
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deadoptimist said:
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It wouldn't be beneficial to him at all but it would show some of that maturity you think he developed to actually let her go and stay on his path regardless instead of trying to stuff her back into the golden cage he's fashioned for her.


Oh, look, you side with the princess' pov again. You see. You do care about her. because otherwise - why? Maturity doesn't mean altruism. She is an asset so letting her go is dangerous.

Darklight0303 said:
It was him that kept the war going when he stupidly saved Sazbaum which got the princess shot. It was also him that completely ignored the Princess' last moments and lashed out with his misguided hatred at the person who had kept her safe all this time. That's what makes him a mad dog.


Oh, 12th episode, lol. So what? That was amidst the confusion of the battle. He could've been an ally if he hadn't been shot earlier by Inaho because of the same confusion of the battle.
It's not that the death of any of them was improbable in that scenario, this show doesn't use the "goal almost reached" trope a lot and the war would've necessary ended with the death of Saaz. Actually we see that the emperor stil holds a grudge against terrans.

Btw, please, someone, explain to me, how has the kind exactly agree to the end of hostilities? Why Klancain is suddenly a pacifist?
I am too lazy to rewatch this mess.


By kind, I assume you mean the king, who after talking with Asseylum we see an attendant walk towards him, which I assuume he was taken off of life support, nonetheless, Asseylum straight up succeeded him, so he is out of the picture.

As for Klancain he showed up literally 2 or 3 episodes ago we have barely any information about him outside of him being Crutheo's son.

Slaine can't go after Klancain's ship in the Tharsis, because Klancain's ship engaged, "maximum stealth" as he called it, so they disappeared off the radar.
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CynicofSinope said:
As I have mentioned before, it is unlikely to find MIT compared to a community college, and you have stated exactly why, they are in two completely different ordered categories.


It's extremely likely.
"I will go to MIT, am too clever to go to a community college."
"This is MIT, this is ot a community college to you."

Do you study in MIT that you're so religious about it?

In the same way as I can compare a mecha drawn by a three year old on paper and Gundam - cause they are of the same genre.

Hm... actually people can caompare whatever. But if you find it offensive you can argue against it froma moral standpoint.

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By kind, I assume you mean the king, who after talking with Asseylum we see an attendant walk towards him, which I assuume he was taken off of life support, nonetheless, Asseylum straight up succeeded him, so he is out of the picture.

As for Klancain he showed up literally 2 or 3 episodes ago we have barely any information about him outside of him being Crutheo's son.

Slaine can't go after Klancain's ship in the Tharsis, because Klancain's ship engaged, "maximum stealth" as he called it, so they disappeared off the radar.


Thx, sorry, I don't have a working English spellchecker, cause Firefox supports only one language at a time and I use the one for my native, hence a lot of typos.

Still I rewatched the scene and I can't say with certainty that the king is dead.

And the ship disappeared from radars, not from space, so Slaine could've flown to it. Unless it's also invisible in visual spectre. But then aren't there any means to find it?
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CynicofSinope said:
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I can come up with a LOT more similarities between a community college and MIT than that, which I'm guessing you're throwing under "etc."

Your second statement has... uh... no point and backing? You generally wouldn't see someone comparing them? You're more likely to see MIT and Cal Berkeley compared than MIT and a community college, but you're also more likely to see MIT compared to a community college than MIT compared to a banana.

Because they're both forms of post-secondary education, in America, which generally you have to pay for, and offer degrees, etc.

It certainly isn't baseless. Calm down, and don't exaggerate.


As I have mentioned before, it is unlikely to find MIT compared to a community college, and you have stated exactly why, they are in two completely different ordered categories.

As an extension it is also equally as unlikely to have MIT compared to a banana. So.....
Nonetheless, as I have said before, if you wan to prove me wrong, link me to a recognized and accredited United States University ranking source that has compared a community college to MIT. I can easily get you sources that rank U.S. universities with not a single mention of a community college. Back your statements up guy.

Also, in the case of Engineering, some community colleges can not even be compared to MIT, because their programs are not even accredited by ABET. This is the same for other majors such as Nursing, Medicine, Law, and even to an extent Graphic Design.

Facts are and always will be facts.


I highly doubt that
it is equally as unlikely to have MIT compared to a banana.


I don't think I need to cite a recognized and accredited United States University ranking source to back up my position.

It is true that some community colleges are not accredited by ABET, which is a difference. Just because things have differences doesn't mean they don't have similarities or that comparing them is baseless.

I can see your points, as I have been able to since the first post, but your exaggeration and incredibly hostile response is largely unwarranted.
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deadoptimist said:
CynicofSinope said:
As I have mentioned before, it is unlikely to find MIT compared to a community college, and you have stated exactly why, they are in two completely different ordered categories.


It's extremely likely.
"I will go to MIT, am too clever to go to a community college."
"This is MIT, this is ot a community college to you."

Do you study in MIT that you're so religious about it?

In the same way as I can compare a mecha drawn by a three year old on paper and Gundam - cause they are of the same genre.

Hm... actually people can caompare whatever. But if you find it offensive you can argue against it froma moral standpoint.


In the case of MIT and a community college we are talking about recognized and official rankings that compare them, not some guy randomly mentioning both of the in a sentence.

Also I answered your questions about this episode,d id you see them?
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Also I answered your questions about this episode,d id you see them?


Yeah, thanks. I edited the comment.

Btw, I am not feeling like going into your educational ratings, but if two things are included in one non-troll rating, no matter on what positions each, they are perfectly comparable. And you haven't stated that it should be official.
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23: And then the shippers lit their torches and went on a hunt for the director.

I don't know what she hopes to accomplish by marrying this guy, I thought the problem was that Slaine had the Aldnoah power and that's why everyone was following him, and he also wants to invade Earth.


And comparing this show to code geass is strange. To me they both have the same flaws though. Too many underdeveloped characters and too many subplots that didn't get adequately expanded upon. Also equally silly amounts of situation handling. Though Code Geass is much much more hammy and doesn't take itself very seriously at all, while aldnoah is just kind of full of rediculous moments.
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deadoptimist said:


It's extremely likely.
"I will go to MIT, am too clever to go to a community college."
"This is MIT, this is ot a community college to you."

Do you study in MIT that you're so religious about it?

In the same way as I can compare a mecha drawn by a three year old on paper and Gundam - cause they are of the same genre.

Hm... actually people can caompare whatever. But if you find it offensive you can argue against it froma moral standpoint.


In the case of MIT and a community college we are talking about recognized and official rankings that compare them, not some guy randomly mentioning both of the in a sentence.

Also I answered your questions about this episode,d id you see them?


Not to interrupt you before you post next, if you are posting, but I don't really see from your original commentary where we established that we were only talking about recognized and official rankings. You weren't talking about recognized and official rankings when you talked about Slaine compared to Lelouch, as far as I knew. If you were, then nevermind, and consider my posts a tangent that misunderstood where you were coming from.
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23: And then the shippers lit their torches and went on a hunt for the director.

I don't know what she hopes to accomplish by marrying this guy, I thought the problem was that Slaine had the Aldnoah power and that's why everyone was following him, and he also wants to invade Earth.


And comparing this show to code geass is strange. To me they both have the same flaws though. Too many underdeveloped characters and too many subplots that didn't get adequately expanded upon. Also equally silly amounts of situation handling. Though Code Geass is much much more hammy and doesn't take itself very seriously at all, while aldnoah is just kind of full of rediculous moments.


No the prolem was that he had legitimacy via supposedly marrying Asseylum which meant she could give him the power to rule over the knights. Whereas now that lie has been exposed and that's going to make a lot of people displeased. Plus Knights don't care about his activation rights when they already have their own for the castles.
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As I have mentioned before, it is unlikely to find MIT compared to a community college, and you have stated exactly why, they are in two completely different ordered categories.

As an extension it is also equally as unlikely to have MIT compared to a banana. So.....
Nonetheless, as I have said before, if you wan to prove me wrong, link me to a recognized and accredited United States University ranking source that has compared a community college to MIT. I can easily get you sources that rank U.S. universities with not a single mention of a community college. Back your statements up guy.

Also, in the case of Engineering, some community colleges can not even be compared to MIT, because their programs are not even accredited by ABET. This is the same for other majors such as Nursing, Medicine, Law, and even to an extent Graphic Design.

Facts are and always will be facts.


I highly doubt that
it is equally as unlikely to have MIT compared to a banana.


I don't think I need to cite a recognized and accredited United States University ranking source to back up my position.

It is true that some community colleges are not accredited by ABET, which is a difference. Just because things have differences doesn't mean they don't have similarities or that comparing them is baseless.

I can see your points, as I have been able to since the first post, but your exaggeration and incredibly hostile response is largely unwarranted.


When university is not accredited by ABET in the U.S., it means that attaining a degree in Engineering at the aforementioned University is not recognized by ABET, which means you are out of luck for your Fundamentals of Engineering exam, and you are out of luck for being able to participate in the Professional Engineering exam. For Engineering students, whether you want to believe it or not, this does invalidate these two institutions from being compared because one will allow you to work in industry the other won't.

As for the comparison to a Banana, if I am looking for official rankings, as I have mentioned before, it is unlikely.

I see where you are coming from, if we look at purely a qualitative aspect and throw out solely looking at recognized sources, and instead look at some random kid making the comparison. But in this case, as I have said I'm basin my statements on purely official data sources , because when looking at universities, most people do not care what some random kid thinks, but rather what officials/people from industry think....You know, since they will most likely be hiring you.

Nonetheless, I'm not really upset or angry at you, if I came across in manner or tone that appeared angry/upset, you have my apologies. Here have a hug. *gives hug*.

EDIT: When we were talking about Lelouch and Slaine we were not talking about officials sources(as far as I know), I did not mention official sources until, we started talking Universities. This tangent was so great, and yet....What was achieved, and at what cost?

EDIT 2: Realizing that you misunderstood, I feel really bad have some more hugs and a few kisses(don't care if you are a guy or not), XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOOXOXOXO.
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[When university is not accredited by ABET in the U.S., it means that attaining a degree in Engineering at the aforementioned University is not recognized by ABET, which means you are out of luck for your Fundamentals of Engineering exam, and you are out of luck for being able to participate in the Professional Engineering exam. For Engineering students, whether you want to believe it or not, this does invalidate these two institutions from being compared because one will allow you to work in industry the other won't.

As for the comparison to a Banana, if I am looking for official rankings, as I have mentioned before, it is unlikely.

I see where you are coming from, if we look at purely a qualitative aspect and throw out solely looking at recognized sources, and instead look at some random kid making the comparison. But in this case, as I have said I'm basin my statements on purely official data sources , because when looking at universities, most people do not care what some random kid thinks, but rather what officials/people from industry think....You know, since they will most likely be hiring you.

Nonetheless, I'm not really upset or angry at you, if I cam across in manner or tone that appeared angry/upset, you have my apologies. Here have a hug. *gives hug*.


Like I said in my last post, I didn't think you were coming from an official angle, because your comments were initially based on comparisons between Slaine and Lelouch, which I didn't think you were basing on any kind of official rankings either. If you have official sources from the industry comparing Slaine/Lelouch and AZ/CG, and were referencing those, then nevermind.

You appeared hostile, but iz cool. Internet communication and all. *hug*
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ANGRY2011 said:
CynicofSinope said:
[When university is not accredited by ABET in the U.S., it means that attaining a degree in Engineering at the aforementioned University is not recognized by ABET, which means you are out of luck for your Fundamentals of Engineering exam, and you are out of luck for being able to participate in the Professional Engineering exam. For Engineering students, whether you want to believe it or not, this does invalidate these two institutions from being compared because one will allow you to work in industry the other won't.

As for the comparison to a Banana, if I am looking for official rankings, as I have mentioned before, it is unlikely.

I see where you are coming from, if we look at purely a qualitative aspect and throw out solely looking at recognized sources, and instead look at some random kid making the comparison. But in this case, as I have said I'm basin my statements on purely official data sources , because when looking at universities, most people do not care what some random kid thinks, but rather what officials/people from industry think....You know, since they will most likely be hiring you.

Nonetheless, I'm not really upset or angry at you, if I cam across in manner or tone that appeared angry/upset, you have my apologies. Here have a hug. *gives hug*.


Like I said in my last post, I didn't think you were coming from an official angle, because your comments were initially based on comparisons between Slaine and Lelouch, which I didn't think you were basing on any kind of official rankings either. If you have official sources from the industry comparing Slaine/Lelouch and AZ/CG, and were referencing those, then nevermind.

You appeared hostile, but iz cool. Internet communication and all. *hug*


Lel, the thought of industry comparing AZ and CG. Why the hell hasn't Forbes done this already!?
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Like I said in my last post, I didn't think you were coming from an official angle, because your comments were initially based on comparisons between Slaine and Lelouch, which I didn't think you were basing on any kind of official rankings either. If you have official sources from the industry comparing Slaine/Lelouch and AZ/CG, and were referencing those, then nevermind.

You appeared hostile, but iz cool. Internet communication and all. *hug*


Lel, the thought of industry comparing AZ and CG. Why the hell hasn't Forbes done this already!?


Heh, right? Spare me, lol.

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Wow, peace made on the A.Z subforum. What have we come to.


It is rare, and beautiful... and tarnishes everything the board stands for.
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ANGRY2011 said:
CynicofSinope said:


Lel, the thought of industry comparing AZ and CG. Why the hell hasn't Forbes done this already!?


Heh, right? Spare me, lol.

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Wow, peace made on the A.Z subforum. What have we come to.


It is rare, and beautiful... and tarnishes everything the board stands for.


I can see it now, the mods are coming for us.

How dare you not continually argue and sling curse words everywhere?

You come into our forums using our server space and act like this? Get out?
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Actually it's none of that. For future reference, if you are trying to make a point, make sure you utilize good sentence structure, and know the definitions of the words you are using.

For example, Patronize, as defined by the Oxford dictionary, means,
"(often as adjective patronizing) Treat with an apparent kindness that betrays a feeling of superiority."
Look, I even provided a reference link for you: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/patronize

In this context, referencing previous posts from Darklight to you, none of them were patronizing in any manner whatsoever. Why does all of this matter? Because as I previously stated, if you are trying to make a point and look like an educated, superior being, you should know what the definitions and contextual uses of the "big words" (Look, I threw in a buzzword for you) you use are. In the event you use words, that are completely out of place, you run the risk of looking like the average, uneducated goon, who has an online thesaurus open, trying to look smart.
Actually, DarkLight has been patronizing me this entire time. I have replied to him in many threads before (I outright called him an asshole in one) but he chose not to reply at all and simply make pretend my points never happened. However, he jumped into a discussion with me when I was responding to someone else. You simply weren't in my shoes, so for you, it seems out of the blue. It feels like he decided to "do me a favor" and actually reply just so he could try to shoot me down after having been ignoring me before. His attitude has been very condescending to all Slaine "supporters" in general (you and everyone know it that he's just a hair above a troll now) and I don't think I need to explain that word. Oh, wait but you didn't try defining that "big word" because it's clear I understood it. Thank you for taking the time to reply though and for being a condescending jackass as well.

I speak English. So it's only my third language but I know what I am saying in the given context. OKay?
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By kind, I assume you mean the king, who after talking with Asseylum we see an attendant walk towards him, which I assuume he was taken off of life support, nonetheless, Asseylum straight up succeeded him, so he is out of the picture.

As for Klancain he showed up literally 2 or 3 episodes ago we have barely any information about him outside of him being Crutheo's son.

Slaine can't go after Klancain's ship in the Tharsis, because Klancain's ship engaged, "maximum stealth" as he called it, so they disappeared off the radar.


Thx, sorry, I don't have a working English spellchecker, cause Firefox supports only one language at a time and I use the one for my native, hence a lot of typos.

Still I rewatched the scene and I can't say with certainty that the king is dead.

And the ship disappeared from radars, not from space, so Slaine could've flown to it. Unless it's also invisible in visual spectre. But then aren't there any means to find it?


It's all good, i just wanted to be sure, so I did not answer your question wrong.

I don't know whether the king is alive or not, I made this supposition based on how monarchies in real life work, with succession happening only when a king/queen dies.

As for Klancain's ship, who knows? I know for sure it was off of the radar, put you have exposed another plot hole the writers did not cover, is the ship using optic camo or not? Even with optic camo, using heat/IR you can still see hidden objects. Does Slain's Thariss have this such equipment on-board, I'd assume so considering all it can already do..........So basically my answer is I don't know.

All that Slaine did, in terms of chasing the ship, was have a Stygis squadron dispatched to search for it, which did not work. So I guess with that in mind the Klancain's ship also must have optic camo capabilities. Even though optic camo is useless when IR/heat vision is oncerned, but let's ignore that aspect.
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The thought of this ending with "let's love and peace because ohime says so" is making me subconsciously wish for a movie/third season.
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The thought of this ending with "let's love and peace because ohime says so" is making me subconsciously wish for a movie/third season.
I read on one of the official Aldnoah twitters that in April, something will be announced about a sequel. We just don't know if it will be a movie or a third season. I'm thinking it will be a movie. Somebody had a great analysis on why they thought we were getting some kind of sequel just based on the episode 22 title of "Chance Meeting and Separation" which is all about Inaho and Asseylum possibly not seeing each other again for a while. Not enough episodes so definitely some kind of sequel coming.
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Actually it's none of that. For future reference, if you are trying to make a point, make sure you utilize good sentence structure, and know the definitions of the words you are using.

For example, Patronize, as defined by the Oxford dictionary, means,
"(often as adjective patronizing) Treat with an apparent kindness that betrays a feeling of superiority."
Look, I even provided a reference link for you: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/patronize

In this context, referencing previous posts from Darklight to you, none of them were patronizing in any manner whatsoever. Why does all of this matter? Because as I previously stated, if you are trying to make a point and look like an educated, superior being, you should know what the definitions and contextual uses of the "big words" (Look, I threw in a buzzword for you) you use are. In the event you use words, that are completely out of place, you run the risk of looking like the average, uneducated goon, who has an online thesaurus open, trying to look smart.
Actually, DarkLight has been patronizing me this entire time. I have replied to him in many threads before (I outright called him an asshole in one) but he chose not to reply at all and simply make pretend my points never happened. However, he jumped into a discussion with me when I was responding to someone else. You simply weren't in my shoes, so for you, it seems out of the blue. It feels like he decided to "do me a favor" and actually reply just so he could try to shoot me down after having ben ignoring me before. His attitude has been very condescending to all Slaine "supporters" in general (you and every know it that he's just a hair above a troll now) and I don't think I need to explain that word. Oh, wait but you didn't try defining that "big word" because it's clear I understood it. Thank you for taking the time to reply though and for being a condescending jackass as well.
MetaKite said:
CynicofSinope said:


Actually it's none of that. For future reference, if you are trying to make a point, make sure you utilize good sentence structure, and know the definitions of the words you are using.

For example, Patronize, as defined by the Oxford dictionary, means,
"(often as adjective patronizing) Treat with an apparent kindness that betrays a feeling of superiority."
Look, I even provided a reference link for you: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/patronize

In this context, referencing previous posts from Darklight to you, none of them were patronizing in any manner whatsoever. Why does all of this matter? Because as I previously stated, if you are trying to make a point and look like an educated, superior being, you should know what the definitions and contextual uses of the "big words" (Look, I threw in a buzzword for you) you use are. In the event you use words, that are completely out of place, you run the risk of looking like the average, uneducated goon, who has an online thesaurus open, trying to look smart.
Actually, DarkLight has been patronizing me this entire time. I have replied to him in many threads before (I outright called him an asshole in one) but he chose not to reply at all and simply make pretend my points never happened. However, he jumped into a discussion with me when I was responding to someone else. You simply weren't in my shoes, so for you, it seems out of the blue. It feels like he decided to "do me a favor" and actually reply just so he could try to shoot me down after having ben ignoring me before. His attitude has been very condescending to all Slaine "supporters" in general (you and every know it that he's just a hair above a troll now) and I don't think I need to explain that word. Oh, wait but you didn't try defining that "big word" because it's clear I understood it. Thank you for taking the time to reply though and for being a condescending jackass as well.


You're more than welcome. Your compliments are making me blush, I could almost vomit. I think you're old enough(hopefully) that you understand you are in no way being force to read or respond to anyone on this forum, and generally in life.

In the event you "feel" you are being forced to read/write a post you are not comfortable with, might I recommend that you feel free to hit the report button next to whatever desired item of interest you seek to report. Doing this will direct you to a dialog window where you can relate your qualms there rather than you did here. In a few hours to days(worst case), expect a moderator to get back to you, giving you another opportunity to relate your qualms once again.

Since you are a big boy(I hope), I am not going to go through all the trouble this time to include a link for you. However, in the event that you require extra assistance, feel free to reply to this post once more.
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All that Slaine did, in terms of chasing the ship, was have a Stygis squadron dispatched to search for it, which did not work. So I guess with that in mind the Klancain's ship also must have optic camo capabilities. Even though optic camo is useless when IR/heat vision is oncerned, but let's ignore that aspect.


I am very disappointed, that we haven't seen Slaine use Tharis in a close-quorter combat in this final stand-off. Seeing a huge robot tear apart inner structures of a base would've been so satisfying.
They have skipped over the part where he kills the attackers too. Why make him disarmor again after that? It would've been logical to be on guard around the base in his robot and simply keep a connection with the bridge. Than Klancain ship could've been damaged.
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deadoptimist said:
CynicofSinope said:
All that Slaine did, in terms of chasing the ship, was have a Stygis squadron dispatched to search for it, which did not work. So I guess with that in mind the Klancain's ship also must have optic camo capabilities. Even though optic camo is useless when IR/heat vision is oncerned, but let's ignore that aspect.


I am very disappointed, that we haven't seen Slaine use Tharis in a close-quorter combat in this final stand-off. Seeing a huge robot tear apart inner structures of a base would be so satisfying.
They have skipped over the part where he kills the attackers too. Why make him disarmor again after that? It would've been logical to be on guard around the base in his robot and simply keep a connection with the bridge. Than Klancain ship could've been damaged.


Yes, yes, you are entirely correct and I completely agree with you. However let us not a key phrase you said: makes sense. This series has many times shown that making sense is not in its itinerary. After all let's us never forget: "space winds", ahhahahahah.

But all jokes aside, you are entirely correct, from a tactical standpoint Slaine being in his Tharsis would have given him the advantage, especially considering a few minutes, (in terms of moving from episode 10 to 11), Princess Asseylum and Klancain went back to the same hangar where he originally was, and he could have easily as you said, damaged the ship they were.

All I can tell you is, I don't know guy..........
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You're more than welcome. Your compliments are making me blush, I could almost vomit. I think you're old enough(hopefully) that you understand you are in no way being force to read or respond to anyone on this forum, and generally in life.

In the event you "feel" you are being forced to read/write a post you are not comfortable with, might I recommend that you feel free to hit the report button next to whatever desired item of interest you seek to report. Doing this will direct you to a dialog window where you can relate your qualms there rather than you did here. In a few hours to days(worst case), expect a moderator to get back to you, giving you another opportunity to relate your qualms once again.

Since you are a big boy(I hope) I am not going to go through all the trouble this time to include a link for you. However, in the event that you require extra assistance, feel free to reply to this post once more.
Your quote is all messed up so I'm cutting them out. See, now you are being patronizing. Bravo! Now you understand the context in and why I have accused DarkLight of such. You are so kind to help me when I never asked you for help and of course, you don't mean for it to be any actual "help". I am a big girl and don't need to report anyone's post that I feel uncomfortable with since I have no problem calling people out on their bullshit. Or "shots fired" as you put it earlier? You must be a lonely boy if such small compliments can make you blush.
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However let us not a key phrase you said: makes sense.


Well, yeah, there's that.

But that's what the forums are besides the shipping war and bickering. Though A.Z has mostly gone over the line of "not even worth trying to analyze" lately.
And I have stopped watching the Inaho's side some time ago. (...wait, there was a confession by Inko, as far as I heard, maybe that's worth watching...)
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