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Darklight0303 said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Lol, it's the writing man...it's usually not so stellar, but it's horrific when it comes to the romance angle. Slaine keeps goes from potential Knight/Count dedicated to the equality of all Martian citizens, to nearly screwing the whole plan because he beloved hime was shot by the guy who he sided with & told him he'd kill her the next time he saw her, to being dedicated Super Knight dedicated to Vers equality, and looking to the man who nearly killed his "love" as a second father....to suddenly killing the man because of something that he should've killed him for 19 months if hime was so important to him, then he's Super Count, finally getting shit done, and bettering the Vers Empire little by little....then dumbAsseylum wakes up and now everything is about her, to the point that he's suddenly to stupid to cover his tracks....yet we've seen him ( and sometimes in conjunction with Harklight) cover every single minuscule detail hours to days in advance. Then we have girls falling for either MCs just cuz. At least with Lemrina and Slaine there's clearly a bond, as they're similar, but even then she shouldn't be too trusting given her life, and the fact that Slaine admitted to using her her to her face as nicely as possible. It's ridiculous, yo. It's kind of funny given how Lemrina was perfectly designed to be with Slaine since he had lost the princess after his stunts in season one. The intent of the writers there is obvious. That's the point. IT IS OBVIOUS that Lemrina is the perfect match for Slaine, and that him giving up on Asseylum would not only be beneficial to his, and Lemrina's, characters, but to the entire show.....but the writers keep forcing Asseylum into the picture when she doesn't have to be here for things to get rolling. Inaho doesn't need Asseylum to be motivated to fight for Earth. Slaine already joined Saazbaum's cause, regardless of his feelings toward her, and even now has admitted to giving up on ever truly gaining her love...yet still continues to be Super Knight. Asseylum is literally NOT NEEDED for this show to continue, yet she survives even more BS than Inaho did, and her presence only continues to drag down the show, and take up screen time for other characters (more Rayet, more Lemrina, more Harklight, more Saazbaum, if he still lived, more none hime obsessed Slaine). |
MonadoRudra said: Darklight0303 said: Obsessive type versus silent type. Yeah no. Obsessive type loses by default. Lol obsessive. You do realise the only time Slaine got to interact with Asseylum pre season 1 would only be when she goes to see him because she's a Princess and he's just a lowly Terran? In fact it would be hard for a count to see the Princess unless for a good reason. If Slaine was actually obsessive and Asseylum was repulsed by this then she...wouldn't have gone to see him? Yet she was spending time with him even before she went to Earth? Then again, why did I expect anything other than absurd bias and dislike of Slaine from you. I wasn't talking about Asseylum. I was talking about your plea for realism. Slaine put the princess up on a pedestal. ONe that ignored any chance of her changing and breaking his perfect image. Plus there is no evidence of the princess ever seeing Slaine as anything more than a close friend. Whereas Slaine was clearly infatuated with her from season 1. |
TheDrifter said: Darklight0303 said: Uh earth has always worked in teams. They have nothing to learn. i'm talking about the invaders. you know...the people that go in one at a time to show off their gundam and kill a bunch of fodder, and are then awestruck when inaho arrives and saves the day. to make it more clear, i am saying they (the martians) should use teamwork instead of sending one person to do all the fighting on some spot of land. Ah my apologies. That's what I get when reading forums so late at night. |
Stark700 said: I think Asseylum is remembering more and more. Pretty sure she remembers everything now after the last 10 seconds of the episode |
| Pretty good and action packed episode, but damn that ending! Holy Shit she remembered! |
| Lol,why it turns into "Is Inaho OP or not?" again? Incompetence of general army (both of Earth and Vers side) is also estabilished already, acknowledged by both sides especially in S2. While it's indeed a very big minus point (lol @S1 battles especially at Earth Base battle, when defending Terrans don't use cover at all and just standing shooting non-destroyable enemies), it's used as plot point and both sides ended stepping up their game a little bit, knowing that their previous military results are sucks (except that Earth big-wings, at least it's plot point). I have no idea if they (both series and creators) are aware of the stupidity in S1, but S2 kinda ammends that. At this point, I would be pleased if both sides at least showing some tactical competence (Not strategical. We have no knowledge whatsoever about strategical situations anyway, which is a big missed opportunity.) What I find funny is that Marito's drama "buildup", which was riddled by very bad PTSD storyline execution was suddenly tossed away and solved in one episode. "Hey the trauma is okay, get over it." and poof, his trauma became a battle power up. It's almost like the writer was aware that his drama is stupid and noone care about him anyway so they use the shortest rute to fix it and making him a decent support character instead. |
Viktor_Otaku said: So all in all a this episode is pretty much a breather between the actions. As expected due to magical plot armor none of Inaho's crew died while the cannon fodders get wiped out, typical. This is Aldnoah after all, where the main cast survived headshots completely unscathed minus a 1-episode-curable amnesia, and another returned completely functional as a semi-cyborg. This level of obvious favoritism should no longer be surprising. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Inaho got shot full of holes on Earth, gets up like nothing happened and gives Slaine a heart attack while he's on the moon. The plebeian fanboys will still find some way to justify any objections as baseless hate. Apparently thinking still requires a certain IQ that many people don't possess. Once upon a time, it actually seemed like victories were the result of tactical planning and strategy, not just from irrationally founded favoritism to drive the story. |
| More cannon fodder died? oh well there is still a seemingly infinite amount of them left. Looks like things are heating up with Asseylum's memories returning. |
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| It's time for Slaine's pretty little lies to crumble around him. |
deadoptimist said: Inugirlz said: lol same. I used to not care when it updated and just watched it while waiting for other updates but ever since joining this forum i can't wait for the next episode. made me appreciate it more. Shitposting here is mad fun, can't agree more. Winter 2015 is like the worst season for me in years, there are literally 4 shows that I follow right now. Thats how even crap like AZ can shine :D The good thing is that yesterday I checked the next season and it looks like it will be way better, for me at least. So those four weeks left cant pass fast enough :) |
bastek66 said: This series become so boring, only interesting things happen near end of every episode. This is so right. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
fimbu1vetr said: Hahaha I'm probably one of the few that would like to see Slaine execute his goals ^^;. Really really don't like how that battle ended. All that buildup and the Deucalion just runs away safely. If enemy mech could duplicate, it rly shouldve done that sooner lol... Like one post Ive seen, this is an anime mostly about Slaine vs Inaho and a little bit of war, instead of something that could've focused on worldbuilding and the battles a bit more. *sigh* Going to watch some Code Geass for far superior plot. Princess amnesia awakening is way too convenient and honestly there's no way Slaine would keep the room Asseylum is in open to Lemrina. Like really?... He's trying to hide that so hard... This war is basically laughable; enemy Counts don't send their allied knights (Ex Beam sword guy and Trillram, so they def have subordinates) or fighters into battle usually. Main/side characters mechs are never destroyed; while every other earth mech gets obliterated. Worst example I can think of is the end of season 1 when Saazbaum shoots down the Deucalion and hence it flies into his landing castle. But when the aldnoah drive gets reactivated suddenly the Deucalion can fly perfectly fine! ... this writing. Don't really get the hate on Slaine cuz Inaho shot him down in S1 for no good reason and he was obviously allying with the terrans; if he wanted to kill Asseylum he would've attacked them. Hopefully Slaine traps Lemrina away or allies with her, defeats the Earth forces, and overturns the Vers system. This will never happen but Inaho's eye being god and generic Earth forces victory and peace with Slaine repenting would be lame. Oh look another fanboy/fangirl who doesn't see how Slaine fucked up that encounter for himself. What a surprise. |
| Count Mazuurek confirms that she was the fake Princess. At least, I think he does. Inaho was mentioned to Eddelrittuo and still denies it. Lemrina seems to be losing it. Finding out that Asseylum was not there looked to be a shock to her. Again at least, I think she does. She finally remembers! It's about time something like that happened. I want to see their faces, especially Slaine's if he acts all raged out again. |
| Lemrina is going to destroy Slaine sometime soon. Yep yep shes gonna become nina 2.0. Everybodys gonna hate her. Its been a while since i was this hyped about an anime ending,what is in store for us i wonder,so many possibilities. And we're back to waiting for next ep. (Im surprised sir darklights not been officially crowned as Mal forums retard yet.) |
Taimanin_IreliaMar 1, 2015 1:41 AM
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fimbu1vetr said: Hahaha I'm probably one of the few that would like to see Slaine execute his goals ^^;. I am having a hard time finding out what his goals are now. The scriptwriters are coming up with whatever at this point regarding Slaine and we are forced to accept it :D What goals would that be, really? He claims to want to find solace and at the same time does everything he can to stir up things. Im really curious what crap they will come up with to make it seem his actions have a purpose. Darklight0303 said: Oh look another fanboy/fangirl who doesn't see how Slaine fucked up that encounter for himself. What a surprise. Same can be said about you really - blind Slaine hater/Inaho fanboy who refuses to see things objectively. So, yea, no real surprise there will never be an agreement on this. Fucking shitty scriptwriters. Ok, I see I am starting to rant again at the wasted potential of the show, so I will stop and eat some orange :D I reccomend you guys do the same. You are arguing about about character's actions purpose in a garbage story, why not waste your time on something better and flame the real villain here - the story itself? |
AlexGKMar 1, 2015 2:16 AM
Dragon_Slayer_X said: AlexGK said: I reccomend you guys do the same. You are arguing about about character's actions purpose in a garbage story, why not waste your time on something better and flame the real villain here - the story itself? Guess the only thing some of you can do is shitposting and flaming. I have a better idea, how about all of you shitposters get together and make an epic anime with your elitist ideas. We will have less bitching on the forums and you guys get to make the epic anime of your dreams. See everyone's happy...........-_- Valid point :) But at this rate all critics will need to change class to producers :D Producers have the right to produce crap. Critics have the right to flame. And people like you have the full right to be annoyed by this. Thats how the wheel turns :D Hmm, while we are on the subject - how does the show fare in Japan? Because, with all due respect to us here, noone cares what we think. So, info on Japan popularity and rating, anyone? |
AlexGKMar 1, 2015 2:50 AM
SweetCoconut said: bastek66 said: This series become so boring, only interesting things happen near end of every episode. This is so right. Yeah, I must admit it takes me three or four times to tank through some scenes with especially lame writing. I'd skip them alltogether if not the need to address them in the discussions here. AlexGK said: Winter 2015 is like the worst season for me in years, there are literally 4 shows that I follow right now. Thats how even crap like AZ can shine :D The good thing is that yesterday I checked the next season and it looks like it will be way better, for me at least. So those four weeks left cant pass fast enough :) I've already dropped almost everything... I follow A.Z, Death Parade and Yatterman, and frankly I am not too interested in them too... I don't see many things that can interest me in spring, but, well, I still hold some hope. If there isn't anything, I'll switch to manga again. G_Spark233 said: More cannon fodder died? oh well there is still a seemingly infinite amount of them left. Actually it would be nice to know something about the fodder - like how many are left, where they come from, where are they stationed on Deucalion ,whe there is no interaction with the main cast at all. It's so strange. Normally writers show some interactions outside the main cast. HowTragic said: Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Inaho got shot full of holes on Earth, gets up like nothing happened and gives Slaine a heart attack while he's on the moon. Lol, I can see Slaine dropping wahtever he is holding, saying "fuck this writing" and taking off. He is messed up by the writers the most - unclear motivation, stilted development, every single attempt to sort things out turned into suffering. "Slaine against writing" - that's the plot I would like to see. |
| Don't know if this was posted already or not but I found this on reddit guy says it's an extra picture from the episode http://imgur.com/xR8MC6Q reddit link http://www.reddit.com/r/AldnoahZero/comments/2xjk5o/aldnoah_zero_ep_20_extra_picture/ |
| lmao, is there anything inaho's eye CAN'T do? and welp, seems like the princesses found out the truth now. |
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swn32 said: FrozenRemains said: Lemrina is going to destroy Slaine sometime soon. Yep yep shes gonna become nina 2.0. Everybodys gonna hate her. No one is gonna hate her for destroying that retard. Truer words were never spoken. ANd it's not like he didn't do anything to deserve it. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: swn32 said: No one is gonna hate her for destroying that retard. I thought Slaine was Nina? She would be doing everyone a favor if she destroys that madman. Or maybe Harklight will do the honors? Even he was surprised and dumbfounded a little after seeing Slaine. Dragon_Slayer_X said: swn32 said: No one is gonna hate her for destroying that retard. I thought Slaine was Nina? She would be doing everyone a favor if she destroys that madman. Or maybe Harklight will do the honors? Even he was surprised and dumbfounded a little after seeing Slaine. It's interesting that Harklight has shown more care and consideration towards Lemrina than Slaine. |
Darklight0303 said: swn32 said: No one is gonna hate her for destroying that retard. Truer words were never spoken. ANd it's not like he didn't do anything to deserve it. :( Lemrina is one of the few characters in this show that I really like. If she shoots Slaine she will likely end up broken, I dont want that :( Jokes aside, Slaine will be shot by Darklight0303 said: swn32 said: No one is gonna hate her for destroying that retard. Truer words were never spoken. ANd it's not like he didn't do anything to deserve it. :( Lemrina is one of the few characters in this show that I like, if she shoots Slaine she will probably end up heartbroken and hateful in the end, I dont want that... Darklight0303 said: It's interesting that Harklight has shown more care and consideration towards Lemrina than Slaine. Yea, Harklight X Lemrina FTW. But there wont be any drama in this, so its not happening :( Lemrina will most likely stay true to Slaine no matter what he does. Then the hate will really start. |
AlexGKMar 1, 2015 3:39 AM
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Darklight0303 said: It's interesting that Harklight has shown more care and consideration towards Lemrina than Slaine. Harklight is capable of thinking for himself. He isn't just a blind follower like i thought at first. It will be quite a twist if he does something unexpected. He's the true brains of the operation on Slaine's side. So no surprise there. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Darklight0303 said: He's the true brains of the operation on Slaine's side. So no surprise there. That was obvious since episode 15. Sadly he chose the wrong person to help. Then again, it's never to late........he has a pretty powerful Kat now and the brains to do something interesting. As tempting as it would be to see Harklight betray Slaine I don't see that very likely to happen. Though he does have the one mech that can completely counter Tharsis if not in the hands of a pompous and stupid count. On the topic of Lemrina Slaine fucked up royally. There are two ways to make use of another person. The smart way and the stupid way. Smart way involves pretending convincingly that you actually care about the person you are using. Take Lelouch for example with Rolo. Stupid way is what Slaine's doing. Refusing to eat with her, keeping her completely in the dark so her suspicions and despair at being isolated slowly rise. |
Darklight0303Mar 1, 2015 3:58 AM
| Slaine's treatment of Lemrina bothers me on multiple levels, really. The emotional level, of making muh cripple princess cry because people in anime can never get over initial infatuation. The second emotional level, where at least if you can't love her be friends, Christ, there's no reason you can't help her out. Why do you have to say she can't find solace? It probably wouldn't be that hard, just fucking BE there for her even as a friend and comrade. The logical level, of not actually working together as a team when it would still be beneficial. She always knew Asseylum could come back. There's no reason she can't still work with you if so. And the second logical level, where if you're going to lie to her, at least do the very basics, like still pretend everything is good and lock obvious doors like the empty tube room. Wasted potential. Tormenting the few characters I like. Urgh. Thanks Obama. |
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| Wow, I'm looking forward to next week now. There will definitely be tensions between Slaine and both princesses :) It kinda feels like Lemrina will go crazy at some point and lose her life seeing that she knows her sister has woken up. But Asseylum's memory return is the epic stuff :D Also for Count Mazuurek's sake, I hope his involvement does not cost him his life, seeing that he is introduced not long ago there is a chance he could be taken our of the picture. I like his personality and for him to trust his enemy is admirable nonetheless :D I'm predicting a huge fatality rate in the most rushing of manners seeing that there are just 4 episodes left. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: Mazuurek has a death flag hanging on him too. It's a shame, he was one of the few nice counts and a smart one at that. Inaho made a good ally. Sleipnir needs an upgrade soon. It's close to the end of the series. I'm really wondering how Mazuurek is gonna keep Hime safe if it comes down to that, the guy doesn't even have a kata ;_; And I doubt Sleipnir would get upgraded at this point. |
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Knight-Artorias said: I'm really wondering how Mazuurek is gonna keep Hime safe if it comes down to that, the guy doesn't even have a kata ;_; And I doubt Sleipnir would get upgraded at this point. Well his Kat isn't made for space so having it wouldn't change things too much. Also don't destroy my small wishes like that.......i can hope for an upgrade or Cruheto to come back with a mask right? Well having a kata no matter how shit it is would still be usefull...maybe Well you can hope for that as much as you whant....I'll also be wishing that Mazuurek-chan won't die.... |
| Seems the show is slowly creeping up score wise. Almost at the same level as season 1. |
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